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Postby Luther Blissett » Fri Feb 03, 2017 11:55 am

8bitagent » Fri Feb 03, 2017 3:40 am wrote:
seemslikeadream » Thu Feb 02, 2017 12:18 pm wrote:
CBS/AP February 2, 2017, 10:50 AM
U.S. reportedly still hammering Yemen militants after deadly raid
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/us-yemen-al ... hi-rebels/


Trump's deadly first counterterrorism raid in Yemen had inadequate intel, ground support, military officials say
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politic ... -1.2962081


This is why I dont get the worship of Obama on the anti Trump left. All the bullshit happening is because of Obama continuing the Bush neocon war policies.
The refugee crisis, destabilization, etc. If Obama had a spine and was a real progressive, and opposed the Bush neocon agenda maybe we'd be in a different place

The left excusing Obama's endless trail of dead Muslim bodies, his deportation of over 2 million Latinos and countless other crimes should be noted by the left opposing Trump...who
should have been marching in the street opposing his misdeeds.

The US invaded and destabilized Libya based on lies under Obama, just as Bush did with Iraq. But people forget that Obama led the US to partner with terror sponsoring Saudi Arabia
to commit mass war crimes in Yemen during the last two years.

However, as you mentioned...it is disturbing...the idea of Trump, Bannon, Miller and Kushner having this casual dinner discussing how theyre going to do that ill fated Yemen raid. So much lives lost over two god damn hard drives
Sadly world war seems more possible now than even during the cold war with these nut jobs in power...scary thing is how none of them have any military or intel or political experience. Its as if the 4chan /pol section
was tapped to head the White House and Pentagon


The targeted assassination of Nora al-Awlaki was actually planned by the Obama administration, but deferred to Trump's, saying that his administration could make the final call. Jeez I wonder what they were going to decide?
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Re: *president trump is seriously dangerous*

Postby seemslikeadream » Fri Feb 03, 2017 12:00 pm

trumpty dumbties decided to do it over dinner at the same time they were deciding what bottle of wine to order


...waiting for the Benghazi type hearings to start
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Re: *president trump is seriously dangerous*

Postby The Consul » Fri Feb 03, 2017 3:56 pm

Trump promised/threatened to kill jihadist families along with jihadis.
First raid does exactly that.
"He is doing what he said he would do."
Proving a point and thanking BHO for giving him the power to kill American citizens, if need be.
I can't imagine that this will be a huge public relations bonanza for "islamic terrorists" everywhere. Try to imagine. They get to see the pictures of her with the bullet hole through her neck.
All the major assholes in the world seem to be getting what they want.
It won't be long. War with Iran is coming and new age war on ISIS/L about to expand.
We're "not nice" anymore.

Boots on the ground trial baloon a success.
Nobody is really screaming WTF? Everybody is used to it.

Totally SNAFU.

For now.
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Postby seemslikeadream » Fri Feb 03, 2017 7:27 pm

Trump Muslim Ban Executive Order Violated Executive Order About Executive Orders

Jon Schwarz
February 3 2017, 1:01 p.m.
THERE’S NOT A LOT that’s funny about President Trump’s January 27 executive order temporarily banning immigrants and refugees from seven majority Muslim countries.

But you have to admit this is a little funny: Trump’s executive order appears to brazenly violate another executive order about how the government should issue executive orders.

It’s sort of like the Supreme Court declaring the Constitution to be unconstitutional.

Presidential executive orders have ranged in history from piddling (giving the executive branch workforce a half day on Christmas Eve) to monumental (the Emancipation Proclamation). Somewhere nearer the piddling end of the spectrum is Executive Order 11030, signed by President Kennedy in 1962 and titled “Preparation, presentation, filing, and publication of Executive orders and proclamations.”

Nevertheless, recent presidents cared deeply about 11030 — in fact, they’ve cared to a degree that’s a little bizarre. For instance, George W. Bush signed Executive Order 13403 in 2006, changing the 1 1/2 inch left-hand margin for executive orders specified in 11030 to 1 inch.

Then in 2014, Obama noticed Bush’s executive order has merely struck out “1 1/2″ from 11030 and replaced it with “1.” This meant 11030 now demanded that executive orders have a left-hand margin of “1 inches.” Realizing this improper pluralization shook the foundations of the republic, Obama signed an executive order “striking ‘inches’ where it appears after the phrase ‘approximately 1′ and inserting ‘inch’.”

Trump’s violation of 11030 goes way beyond improper margins, however. Section 2 begins, “A proposed Executive order or proclamation shall first be submitted … to the Director of the Office of Management and Budget,” which is part of the White House. If the director of the OMB approves the executive order, it goes to the Justice Department and then to the president.

But there’s no sign Trump’s immigration executive order was routed through the OMB at the start, and lots of evidence it wasn’t.

We know the Justice Department’s Office of Legal Counsel received Trump’s executive order, because it sent a memo back to the White House approving it on January 27.

The OLC memo begins by stating that “the attached proposed Executive Order was prepared by the Domestic Policy Council and forwarded to this Department for review.” That is, it went directly from the Domestic Policy Council at the White House to the Justice Department — with no stop at the OMB in between.

Asked whether it had been receiving draft executive orders from the OMB, a Justice Department spokesperson responded: “We’ll decline and defer to OMB on that question.”

No one at the Office of Management and Budget responded at all to repeated inquiries about whether it was first office to receive Trump’s draft executive orders. The regular White House press office also did not respond. Notably, the OMB did not produce a one-paragraph “budgetary impact analysis” of Trump’s January 27 executive order until January 30.

Moreover, the river of White House leaks about the immigration executive order all agree that it was produced in a highly unconventional way. As Politico reported, the draft order “was so tightly held that White House aides, top Cabinet officials, Republican leaders on Capitol Hill and other Trump allies had no idea what was in it even when it was signed — and that was just how top advisers and aides wanted it.”

Of course, given all the grave potential flaws in Trump’s executive order, contravening Executive Order 11030 is the least of it. Kenneth Mayer, a professor at the University of Wisconsin-Madison and an academic expert on executive orders, says, “What’s the remedy for a violation? There probably isn’t one,” although he does believe “This could go into a claim that the government didn’t follow its own rules, and that makes it capricious.”

Its main significance is just as another sign that the Trump administration has no interest in being minimally competent. According to Matthew Miller, Eric Holder’s spokesperson when he was attorney general, “It wouldn’t surprise me if they didn’t know [Executive Order 11030] existed.” Mayer views the administration’s overall approach to executive orders as “shocking” and “just breathtaking, the degree of informality and casualness and disorganization.”
https://theintercept.com/2017/02/03/tru ... ve-orders/
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Re: *president trump is seriously dangerous*

Postby Iamwhomiam » Fri Feb 03, 2017 8:42 pm

mentalgongfu2 » Fri Feb 03, 2017 5:23 am wrote:
The left excusing Obama's endless trail of dead Muslim bodies, his deportation of over 2 million Latinos and countless other crimes should be noted by the left opposing Trump...who
should have been marching in the street opposing his misdeeds.


Yes, they should have. It is lamentable. The hypocrisy of the Democrats in this regard is offensive.

For many, I think it was hard to oppose that aspect of Obama's presidency in light of all the attacks about him being a secret Kenyan Muslim determined to destroy America, aspersions that Michelle was a post-op transgender, and blatant racism, etc.

If anything, the right wing should have embraced him for continuing neocon foreign policy in deed, if not in word. They were equally partisan hypocrites and remain so.

But it's too late to focus on such things. It always winds up in the arena of one Party justifying illegal or immoral acts because the other Party did it too. Two wrongs don't make a right. And failure to oppose yesterday's wrongs don't negate opposing the wrongs of today and tomorrow.


Any who say such things as this, "Yes, they should have. It is lamentable. The hypocrisy of the Democrats in this regard is offensive. ("who should have been marching in the street opposing his misdeeds.") must not engage in civic or community activities, because it is simply untrue that the Left gave Obama a free ride. Sure, some did, but there were many who protested the war weekly, if not daily. And there were those who rallied for social justice as hasn't occurred since the 60s, and without the destruction then witnessed.

I think what I'm trying to say is, "You're dreamin'."

You guys are really out of touch.
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Re: *president trump is seriously dangerous*

Postby seemslikeadream » Fri Feb 03, 2017 10:46 pm

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Bush-appointed judge halts Trump travel ban nationwide
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing- ... nationwide



100,000 visa's have been revoked



Federal Judge Stops Enforcement Of Trump Refugee And Travel Ban Nationwide
A judge in Washington stopped enforcement of visa and refugee provisions of the executive order. A lawyer for Washington state tells BuzzFeed News that the court’s order halts both visa and refugee provisions of Trump’s order.
https://www.buzzfeed.com/zoetillman/fed ... .wrALKxAvZ




Laurence Tribe ‏@tribelaw 20m20 minutes ago
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Laurence Tribe Retweeted Lawrence O'Donnell
Crushes it, @Lawrence, ONLY if understood to resurrect the visas Trump secretly revoked while the travel ban was under challenge in court



Josh Dorner ‏@JoshDorner 36m36 minutes ago
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IT'S WORKING: "CBP to Airlines: We will begin reinstating visas."



Trump officials slow-walked court orders on travel ban
Customs officials blocked immigrants from seeing lawyers at Dulles Airport, despite judge's order.
http://www.politico.com/story/2017/02/t ... ban-234633


Laurence Tribe ‏@tribelaw 2h2 hours ago
If Trump directed or deliberately let this occur, IMPEACHABLE:Trump officials slow-walked court orders on travel ban


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There was an audible gasp in the EDVA courtroom when govt lawyer Erez Reuveni said 100k+ visas were revoked by Trump EO


Betsy Woodruff ‏@woodruffbets 11h11 hours ago
Those 100k+ visas weren't just deemed unusable for 90 days; Per Trump lawyer, they no longer exist

Betsy Woodruff ‏@woodruffbets 11h11 hours ago
That was based on a document Trump signed on Friday but wasn't made public til Tuesday

Betsy Woodruff ‏@woodruffbets 11h11 hours ago
Something to keep an eye on: response to this from Congressional R's who said DACA and DAPA were executive overreach

Betsy Woodruff ‏@woodruffbets 10h10 hours ago
Sessions + Miller have long argued the US should have less legal immigration. Disappearing people's visas is certainly one way to do it

Betsy Woodruff ‏@woodruffbets 10h10 hours ago
On Monday, Spicer said 109 people were "slowed down" by the EO. It was immediately obvious that was wrong; now we know just HOW wrong



let the games begin
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Postby seemslikeadream » Sat Feb 04, 2017 8:34 am

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London set for second Donald Trump protest as 'tens of thousands' expected to march against UK response to travel ban
Demonstrations opposing Mr Trump's state visit invite are planned over the coming months


PERSONAL HEALTH
Could Trump’s Hair Drug Threaten His Physical and Mental Health?
There can be a downside to a full head of orange hair.
By Martha Rosenberg / AlterNet February 3, 2017

This week, President Trump’s doctor disclosed that the president takes finasteride, a drug marketed as Propecia, to treat male pattern baldness. While it is tempting to make jokes about Trump’s hair, and even the sexual side effects that accompany the drug, it also has many disturbing side effects that neither the president—nor any other man—should risk.

In the 19 years since Propecia was approved to treat hair loss from male pattern baldness, side effects have been so concerning that the term post-finasteride syndrome (PFS) has been coined and hundreds of lawsuits have been brought. In addition to its sexual side effects, the drug's effects on cognition, mood and mental states have been documented in the scientific literature.

A 2013 study in Journal of Sexual Medicine noted "changes related to the urogenital system in terms of semen quality and decreased ejaculate volume, reduction in penis size, penile curvature or reduced sensation, fewer spontaneous erections, decreased testicular size, testicular pain, and prostatitis." Many subjects also noted a "disconnection between the mental and physical aspects of sexual function," and changes in mental abilities, sleeping patterns, and/or depressive symptoms.

A 2014 study in the Journal of Steroid Biochemistry and Molecular Biology finds that "altered levels of neuroactive steroids, associated with depression symptoms, are present in androgenic alopecia patients even after discontinuation of the finasteride treatment." In 2010, depression was added to labels as a side effect. In 2011, a woman told CBS news she blamed her 22-year-old son's suicide on Propecia and Men's Journal ran a report called "The (Not So Hard) Truth About Hair Loss Drugs."

Sexual Side Effects, But a Full Head of Hair

Finasteride inhibits a steroid responsible for converting testosterone into 5α-dihydrotestosterone (DHT), the hormone that tells hair follicles on the scalp to stop producing hair. Years before Propecia was approved to grow hair, finasteride was being used in drugs like Proscar, Avodart and Jalyn to treat an enlarged prostate gland (benign prostatic hyperplasia).

Since Propecia was approved, its label has warned about sexual side effects, but termed them temporary. "A small number of men experienced certain sexual side effects, such as less desire for sex, difficulty in achieving an erection, or a decrease in the amount of semen," said the label in 2014. "Each of these side effects occurred in less than 2 percent of men and went away in men who stopped taking Propecia because of them."

But increasingly, users and some doctors say the symptoms sometimes do not go away when men stop taking Propecia and that their lives can be changed permanently. They report impotence, lack of sexual desire, depression and suicidal thoughts and even a reduction in the size of their penis or testicles after using the drug.

In 2011, the Propecia label conceded that sexual dysfunction could continue "after stopping the medication" and that finasteride could pose a "risk of high-grade prostate cancer." In 2012, a warning was added that "other urological conditions" should be considered before taking finasteride. Soon, "male breast cancer" was added under "postmarketing experience." Then the side effect of angioedema was added.

Propecia was not just sold in the U.S. Overseas ads compared twins who did and did not use the product. In the UK, the drugstore chain Boots aggressively marketed Propecia at its 300 stores and still does. One estimate says Propecia was marketed in 120 countries. In 1999 alone, Merck spent $100 million marketing Propecia directly to consumers, when direct-to-consumer advertising was just beginning on TV.

This is not a great drug for anyone—especially the president of the United States.http://www.alternet.org/personal-health ... de-effects
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Postby seemslikeadream » Sat Feb 04, 2017 11:21 am

Trump's Unconstitutional Muslim Ban
Friday 3 February 2017 at 6:54 PM ET edited by Val Merlina

JURIST Contributing Editor and author Marjorie Cohn discuses the constitutional violations resulting from the executive order banning nationals from seven Muslim-majority countries ... jfk_protests_january_28_2017
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On January 27, 2017, President Trump made good on his campaign promise to institute a ban on Muslims entering the US. Trump's executive order ("EO") is titled "Protecting the Nation From Foreign Terrorist Entry Into the United States."

The EO bars nationals from seven Muslim-majority countries from the US for at least 90 days. They include Iraq, Iran, Libya, Syria, Somalia, Yemen, and Sudan. The EO also indefinitely prevents Syrian refugees, even those granted visas, from entering the US. And it suspends the resettlement of all refugees for 120 days.

None of the 9/11 hijackers came from the seven countries covered by the EO; 15 of the 19 men hailed from Saudi Arabia, which is not on the list. No one from the seven listed countries has mounted a fatal terrorist attack in the United States.

Countries exempted from the EO include Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, Egypt, Turkey, Lebanon and the United Arab Emirates — countries where Trump apparently has business ties.

Trump's EO violates the Establishment Clause, the Due Process Clause, the Equal Protection Clause, and the Take Care Clause of the Constitution. It also violates the Convention Against Torture and Other Cruel, Inhuman or Degrading Treatment or Punishment (CAT), as well as the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights (ICCPR); both are treaties the United States has ratified, making them part of US law under the Constitution's Supremacy Clause. The EO violates the Immigration and Nationality Act as well.

Six Federal Courts Stay Trump's EO

In the face of legal challenges, five federal courts have temporarily stayed implementation of parts of the EO, indicating that petitioners have a strong likelihood of prevailing on the merits.

On January 28, US District Judge Ann Donnelly of the Eastern District of New York concluded that the petitioners "have a strong likelihood of success in establishing that the removal of the petitioner and others similarly situated violates Due Process and Equal Protection." She also found "imminent danger . . . [of] substantial and irreparable injury to refugees, visa-holders, and other individuals from nations subject to the [EO]."

Donnelly thus enjoined respondents Trump, US Customs and Border Protection (CBP), Department of Homeland Security (DHS), et al from removing anyone with refugee applications approved by US Citizenship and Immigration Services as part of the US Refugee Admissions Program. Holders of valid immigrant and non-immigrant visas, and other individuals from the seven listed countries who are legally authorized to enter the US, are also protected from removal by Donnelly's order.

In spite of Donnelly's order, CBP agents continued to detain immigrants at airports across the country and send them back, even though some could face persecution in their countries of origin.

On January 28, US District Judge Leonie Brinkema of the Eastern District of Virginia forbade respondents Trump et al from removing the three Yemeni petitioners, who were lawful permanent residents being held at Dulles International Airport, for seven days from the issuance of her order. Brinkema further ordered CBP agents to permit attorneys access to all lawful permanent residents (green card holders) detained pursuant to the EO at Dulles International Airport pursuant.

Nevertheless, CBP agents refused to allow detained lawful permanent residents to consult with lawyers. On February 1, the Commonwealth of Virginia asked a federal judge to force Trump, CBP and other high government officials to show cause why they should not be held in contempt for refusing to obey a lawful court order.

On January 28, US District Judge Thomas Zilly of the Western District of Washington granted a stay of removal and enjoined respondents Trump et al from removing John Does I and I from the US pending a hearing on February 3.

On January 29, US District Judge Allison Burroughs and US Magistrate Judge Judith Gail Dein of the District of Massachusetts found that Iranian petitioners, a married couple, both of whom are engineering professors at University of Massachusetts-Dartmouth, had a strong likelihood of success in establishing the detention/and or removal of them and others similarly situated would violate Due Process and Equal Protection.

The two judges also concluded petitioners were likely to suffer irreparable harm. They issued a temporary restraining order, preventing respondents Trump et al from detaining or removing for seven days individuals with refugee applications approved by US Citizenship and Immigration Services as part of the US Refugee Admissions Program. Holders of valid immigrant and non-immigrant visas, lawful permanent residents,] and others from the seven listed countries who, absent the EO, would be legally authorized to enter the US, were also protected from exclusion.

On January 31, US District Judge Andre Birotte in Los Angeles ruled that the government must permit immigrants from the seven listed nations who have initial preclearance for legal residency to enter the US. Birotte ordered US officials to refrain from "removing, detaining or blocking the entry of [anyone] . . . with a valid immigrant visa" arriving from one of the seven countries.

Attorney Julie Ann Goldberg had filed the Los Angeles case on behalf of more than 24 plaintiffs of Yemeni descent, including US citizens. Over 200 people holding immigrant visas who had left Yemen, and are either related to US citizens or lawful permanent residents, were stranded in Djibouti and prevented from flying to the US.

Meanwhile, on February 1, a counsel to the president informed government agencies that the EO does not apply to some categories of immigrants. They include lawful permanent residents, Iraqis who worked for the US government in jobs such as interpreters and people with dual nationality when entering the US with a passport from a country other than one of the forbidden seven.

On February 3, US District Judge James Robart in Seattle issued a temporary nationwide restraining order halting the EO's ban on citizens of the seven countries from entering the US. Judge Robart ruled the EO would be stopped nationwide, effective immediately.

The EO Violates the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment

The strongest constitutional argument for overturning the EO is that it violates the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment.

The Supreme Court has held "the clearest command of the Establishment Clause is that one religious domination cannot be officially preferred over another." The EO "imposes a selective ban on immigration from seven Muslim-majority countries as well as establishes preferential treatment for refugees seeking asylum who are identified with 'minority religions' in their country of origin," ACLU National Legal Director David Cole wrote in Just Security. Cole cited Trump's statement on Christian Broadcast News that the intent of his EO was to prioritize "Christians" seeking asylum over "Muslims."

Erwin Chemerinsky, dean of UC Irvine School of Law, observed in the Los Angeles Times, "Although Trump's order does not expressly exclude Muslims, that is its purpose and effect as it bars entry to individuals from predominantly Muslim countries."

When Trump signed the EO, Cole noted, he "pledged to 'keep radical Islamic terrorists out of the US.' Not 'terrorists'; not 'radical terrorists.' But only 'radical Islamic terrorists.'" Cole concluded that Trump "has violated the Establishments Clause's 'clearest command'" as "[T]here is no legitimate reason to favor Christians over all others who are persecuted for their beliefs."

The EO Violates the Due Process Clause of the Fifth Amendment

Procedural due process forbids the government from depriving an individual of life, liberty or property without due process of law. The US government is obligated to hear the asylum claims of noncitizens who arrive at US borders and ports of entry. The Immigration and Nationality Act provides, "Any alien who is physically present in the US or who arrives in the US . . . irrespective of such alien's status, may apply for asylum . . ." They must be afforded an opportunity to apply for asylum or other forms of humanitarian protection and be promptly received and processed by US authorities. The Trump administration's denial of an opportunity to apply for asylum violates procedural due process.

The EO Violates the Equal Protection Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment

The Equal Protection Clause prohibits the government from "deny[ing] to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of laws." An executive order that has the "purpose and effect of disapproval of a class recognized and protected by state law" violates the Equal Protection Clause, the Supreme Court held in US v. Windsor.

Muslim immigrants and non-Muslim immigrants from the seven listed countries are two separate classes of people for Equal Protection purposes. Unequal treatment of different groups based on religion, which is a suspect class, are subjected to strict scrutiny and thus there must be a compelling state interest to justify the disparate treatment. None of the 9/11 hijackers came from any of the seven countries. There have been no fatal terrorist attacks on US soil by anyone from those countries. Therefore, there is no compelling state interest for treating the two classes differently. This is particularly true in light of Trump's statements that his order would prioritize "Christians" seeking asylum over "Muslims."

As Corey Brettschneider wrote for Politico, the Court drew a clear connection between the protection of religious liberty and the Equal Protection Clause's prohibition of invidious discrimination in Church of Lukumi Babalu Aye v. City of Hialeah.

The EO Violates the Take Care Clause, Art. II, Sec. 3

Trump's EO violates the Take Care Clause of the Constitution, according to Jeanne Mirer, president of the International Association of Democratic Lawyers. "This provision requires the President to 'take care' that the laws of the country are faithfully executed," Mirer wrote on Facebook. "The EO on immigration violates this clause because it requires government officials to violate various laws as well as human rights treaties we have ratified. He is also violating it by appointing people who openly oppose the laws they are being asked to enforce. Impeachable offense," she added.

The EO Violates the Convention Against Torture

Article 3 of the Convention Against Torture and Other Cruel, Inhuman or Degrading Treatment or Punishment (CAT) establishes the principle of nonrefoulement. It forbids states parties from expelling, returning or extraditing a person to a state "where there are substantial grounds for believing that he would be in danger of being subjected to torture." Refugees often flee repressive regimes to escape persecution. Sending people back to a country where they may well suffer torture violates the CAT.

The EO Violates the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights

Article 2 of the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights (ICCPR) forbids states parties from making distinctions in the provision of civil and political rights based on "race, colour [sic], sex, language, religion, political or other opinion, national or social origin, property, birth or other status." By giving fewer rights to Muslims than non-Muslims, Trump is violating the ICCPR.

The EO Violates the Immigration and Nationality Act

According to the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965, no person can be "discriminated against in the issuance of an immigrant visa because of the person's race, sex, nationality, place of birth or place of residence." By singling out people from majority-Muslim countries, Trump has violated the Immigration and Nationality Act.

Legal and political fallout

Attorneys general from 15 states and the District of Columbia issued a joint statement condemning the EO. One thousand State Department employees likewise opposed the EO.

After federal courts stayed the ban, acting Attorney General Sally Yates ordered the Justice Department not to defend the EO, saying she wasn't convinced it was lawful. Trump responded by firing Yates, stating she had "betrayed the Department of Justice."

Ironically, Senator Jeff Sessions, who will become Attorney General once the Senate confirms his nomination, asked Yates at her confirmation hearing whether she thought the Attorney General had "the responsibility to say no the President if he asks for something that's improper."

Sessions' fingerprints are all over the Muslim ban. The Daily Beast reported that Sessions, Steve Bannon and senior policy advisor Steven Miller (a Sessions confidant) drafted the EO.

Hundreds of people were kept in limbo after Trump issued his order. A five-year-old boy was separated from his mother for four hours. Erez Reuveni, an attorney with the Justice Department's Office of Immigration Litigation, said more than 100,000 visas have been revoked. He could not say, however, how many people who had visas were sent back to their home countries. But, William Cocks from the State Department Bureau of Consular Affairs wrote in an email to NBC News, "Fewer than 60,000 individuals' visas were provisionally revoked to comply with the Executive Order."

Although thousands protested the Muslim ban at airports around the country, White House chief of staff Reince Priebus told CBS News that the ban could be extended.

After Donnelly's order staying Trump's EO, the DHS and a senior White House adviser declared that the EO remained in force. But they also said the administration would comply with judicial orders. The rubber will meet the road when federal appellate judges, and probably the Supreme Court, rule on the merits of these petitions. If the petitioners ultimately prevail, we will see whether the Trump administration fulfills its legal duty to act in accordance with those judicial decisions.

Marjorie Cohn is professor emerita at Thomas Jefferson School of Law and former president of the National Lawyers Guild. Her most recent book is Drones and Targeted Killing: Legal, Moral, and Geopolitical Issues. Visit her website at http://marjoriecohn.com/ and follow her on Twitter @MarjorieCohn.
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Postby seemslikeadream » Sat Feb 04, 2017 12:00 pm

U.S. military scrambles to explain why it posted a 10-year-old video to show its Yemen raid was a success
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/che ... bc9c209aa0



President Trump’s do-it-himself approach just suffered a big — and unusual — early setback
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the ... 719f8be120


Trump Named in Over 50 Lawsuits Since Entering White House
http://www.newsmax.com/politics/lawsuit ... id/771834/


The State Department Goes to War on Donald Trump
http://nationalinterest.org/feature/the ... rump-19309
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Bannon is trying to put Elliot Abrams at Tillerson's elbow to make sure he's got a proper bagman and con artist at State, rather than just a Texas oilman. Somebody with more experience at lying to congress and dealing with the depths of the deep state.

An Actual American War Criminal May Become Our Second-Ranking Diplomat
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Re: *president trump is seriously dangerous*

Postby seemslikeadream » Sat Feb 04, 2017 12:51 pm

but ...but trumpty dumbty threw all the neo cons out!

Elliott Abrams: the Neocon’s Neocon

charter member of the Project for the New American Century
http://www.counterpunch.org/2005/02/09/ ... -s-neocon/
Mazars and Deutsche Bank could have ended this nightmare before it started.
They could still get him out of office.
But instead, they want mass death.
Don’t forget that.
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Postby Iamwhomiam » Sat Feb 04, 2017 1:57 pm

Elliot Abrams!? That's a frightening thought, fish. It's more disturbing to me than was Mad Dog's appointment.

I had been unfamiliar with his inlaws and decided to check them out, as well as Abrams' late wife (2013) and have learned they are a most charming bunch.

Here's a bit by Elliot's lovey wife, the former Rachel Decter, excerpted from her wiki page:

(Rachel) Abrams was a board member of the Emergency Committee for Israel. A critic of liberal thinkers, she kept a politically oriented blog called Bad Rachel. In the 1970s, she spent three years working on Kibbutz Machanaynim in the Galilee. Of the Palestinians who kidnapped Gilad Shalit, Abrams wrote:

...the slaughtering, death-worshiping, innocent-butchering, child-sacrificing savages who dip their hands in blood and use women — those who aren't strapping bombs to their own devils' spawn and sending them out to meet their seventy-two virgins by taking the lives of the school-bus-riding, heart-drawing, Transformer-doodling, homework-losing children of Others — and their offspring — those who haven't already been pimped out by their mothers to the murder god — as shields, hiding behind their burkas and cradles like the unmanned animals they are, and throw them not into your prisons, where they can bide until they're traded by the thousands for another child of Israel, but into the sea, to float there, food for sharks, stargazers, and whatever other oceanic carnivores God has put there for the purpose.


Abrams' mother in law, Midge Decter:
Together with Donald Rumsfeld, Decter is the former co-chair of the Committee for the Free World and one of the original drivers of the neoconservative movement with her spouse, Norman Podhoretz.[3] She is also a founder of the Independent Women's Forum, and was founding treasurer for the Northcote Parkinson Fund, founded and chaired by John Train. She is a member of the board of trustees for the Heritage Foundation.[1][4] She is also a Board member of the Center for Security Policy and the Clare Boothe Luce Fund.[3] She is also a member of the Philadelphia Society and she was, for a time, its president.[14] She is also a senior fellow at the Institute of Religion and Public Life.[2] She is one of the signatories to Statement of Principles for the Project for the New American Century.[15] Decter serves on the national advisory board of Accuracy in Media.[16] In 2008, Midge Decter received the Truman-Reagan Medal of Freedom.[17]


And Vidal just loved Midge:

Decter attacked a visible gay culture in a 1980 essay for Commentary entitled "The Boys on the Beach." The piece was fiercely criticized by Gore Vidal in his essay "Some Jews & The Gays," and he examined homophobia among middle-class Jews in the United States. According to the New York Observer, Decter's essay, which characterized homosexuality as socially deviant and personally destructive, "clearly provoked in Mr. Vidal a kind of gleeful, murderous fury. He alternates light slaps ('She… writes with the authority and easy confidence of someone who knows that she is very well known indeed to those few who know her') with roundhouse punches ('For sheer vim and vigor, "The Boys on the Beach" outdoes its implicit model, The Protocols of the Elders of Zion'), and ends on a note of bitter contempt and ominous foreboding: '[S]he is indeed a virtuoso of hate, and thus do pogroms begin."


But, let's be honest for a moment... Abrams helped educate many Americans who otherwise would still be ignorant of the names of the countries of Central America.
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Re: *president trump is seriously dangerous*

Postby seemslikeadream » Sun Feb 05, 2017 10:03 am

APPEALS COURT DENIES TRUMPTY DUMBTY!!


9th Circuit Court declines to quickly reinstate travel ban
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... 90d81c4c25


Donald Trump repeats respect for 'killer' Putin in Fox Super Bowl interview
President says: ‘There are a lot of killers. We’ve got a lot of killers’

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/201 ... imir-putin


all the kings horses and all the kings men will never be able to put trumpty dumbty together again

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZOF9q5fzfs
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Postby 82_28 » Sun Feb 05, 2017 11:50 am

By the by, I actually know Judge Robart and also his entire family. He is a very stern but fair person. But one time several years ago I sat down with him at the party him and his wife throw yearly and I said to him you need to start taking the right more seriously. This was back in the days of all those right wing death threats on judges. Shhhh. I know where he lives and have been to his house numerous times.

He just basically nodded along with me. I don't recall him asking any questions or asking why did I think that. He just listened to my stoned and drunk ass eating the salmon he caught. I am not saying I was right, but there was some sort of look of concern on his face that made me think, definitely trustworthy. A, because I was friends with his wife because we met at the very first anti-war protest here and always talked about right wing shit -- she was a customer that would come in only to see me. She was always bringing me literature for instance.

Anyway, Robart, good guy and very measured. His wife might be left wing but he is not. Just fair and sees bullshit when he sees it. . .
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