Report: UK tabloid hacked into voicemails

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Re: Report: UK tabloid hacked into voicemails

Postby AhabsOtherLeg » Tue Jul 19, 2011 9:40 pm

It would be better to let him talk himself into jail time or bankruptcy, but failing that, let public opinion as it stands drive him and his company out of the UK's media market entirely. If that's even possible (not sure it is, to be honest). Attacks targetted specifically against him as a person - though well-deserved and totally justified - can only help him now. Unless they involve a hammer or icepick.

I reckon he's in the process of making himself into a new Ernest Saunders:

Ernest Walter Saunders (born 21 October 1935) is a former British business manager, best known as one of the "Guinness Four", a group of businessmen who attempted to fraudulently manipulate the share price of the Guinness company. He was sentenced to five years' imprisonment, but released after 10 months as he was suffering with apparent Alzheimer's Disease. He later recovered.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ernest_Saunders


Saunders is the only guy in history who ever recovered from Alzheimers and regained full function, because he never had Alzheimers in the first place. Murdoch is doing a good job of looking like a doddery out-of-touch old-timer right now, an honourable old duffer from the glory days of honest journalism, who's just too innocent to keep up with the technological cut-and-thrust of the modern newsroom. We both know that idea's ridiculous, but a lot of folk'll buy it.

Some of the attacks that make him look weak or stupid might end up helping his cause in the end.

They're still funny though.
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Re: Report: UK tabloid hacked into voicemails

Postby 2012 Countdown » Tue Jul 19, 2011 9:42 pm

Well, I'm a sucker for a good pie-in-face act upon the privileged. Most recent notables for me are the Bill Kristol one, and the Bill Gates one.
But I agree, there's a time and place for everything, including pie-in-face. The aforementioned were either giving a lecture, or about to attend a meeting of upper crust.
Never pie someone who is being grilled. He could have waited, and if he did, it would have been to much greater effect as well -yes, unless he used an ice pick, hehe!
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Re: Report: UK tabloid hacked into voicemails

Postby Tucy » Wed Jul 20, 2011 2:31 am

British Fitzmass. Yay!!
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Re: Report: UK tabloid hacked into voicemails

Postby Stephen Morgan » Wed Jul 20, 2011 2:43 am

AhabsOtherLeg wrote:
Joe Hillshoist wrote:From the wendi deng wiki page:

It should also be noted that she is a gold digging whore, and that her husband is one of the biggest scumbags on the planet, and that they should both be charged with treason and hanged in a globally broadcast public execution.


:shock:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wendi_Deng

Thats a bit much for a wikipedia page isn't it? I certainly think the public execution would suit her husband.


I think that section might breach Wikipedia's NPOV and impartiality rules. I'm not sure, but it does seem a bit slanted. The editors'll have to have a heated multi-page discussion about it over the next few days.


Looks objective enough to me, although Comrade Deng is probably more likely to be a willing whore for Chinese repression, rather than a gold digging whore.

Anybody else wonder if there's a concerted effort underway to turn the villains into victims here, by publically victimizing them in really stupid, petty, and counter-productive ways?

I mean, foam-pies being put in the faces of seated octogenarians, just before they spectacularly fail to answer a very important question about confidentially clauses and million pound payouts... it doesn't help anybody.


It's only about a week since we were talking about those idiots who tried to pie David Icke.

Now the unveiled misogyny and thinly-veiled racism against Deng. Fox and the WSJ clearly want everybody to weep for a great man and his lady, who were wronged and brought low by the jealous vengeful left. So does The Sun. This kind of silliness furthers that agenda (even if the earlier lulzsec hack was fucking brilliant).


But Deng is definitely an associate of the most objectionable elements of the Chinese government, which is the most obvious thing she has in common with Rupert. Wouldn't surprise me at all if he was her assignment. Hence the bodyguard act.
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Re: Report: UK tabloid hacked into voicemails

Postby Stephen Morgan » Wed Jul 20, 2011 2:53 am

Ac cording to the BBC and Nick Robinson, of "stealing protest signs and smashing them" fame, the police held the pie thrower so that Wendi Deng could beat him up, which she did for quite some time.
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Re: Report: UK tabloid hacked into voicemails

Postby blanc » Wed Jul 20, 2011 6:57 am

So not arresting her for assault then.
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Re: Report: UK tabloid hacked into voicemails

Postby seemslikeadream » Wed Jul 20, 2011 11:00 am

British Panel Says Murdochs Are Blocking Inquiries
By ALAN COWELL
Published: July 20, 2011

LONDON — A parliamentary panel investigating Britain’s spreading phone hacking scandal accused the Murdoch empire on Wednesday of “deliberate attempts” to thwart its investigations.

The House of Commons home affairs select committee was one of two panels that questioned some of the main players in the scandal on Tuesday, interviewing senior police officers and releasing a scathing report on Wednesday that pointed to “a catalog of failures” in handling the hacking investigations.

The report was issued on Wednesday just hours before Prime Minister David Cameron went before a rowdy session of Parliament to defend his relationships with former senior figures at News International, the British subsidiary of Rupert Murdoch’s global News Corporation.

A second panel, the select committee on culture, media and sport, on Tuesday questioned Mr. Murdoch, his son James and Rebekah Brooks, the former chief of News International. Ms. Brooks resigned from the company last week and was arrested on Sunday on suspicion of illegally intercepting phone calls and bribing the police — charges she again denied on Tuesday.

The separate home affairs select committee interviewed senior officers including Sir Paul Stephenson, the outgoing commissioner of London’s Metropolitan Police Service, and John Yates, the assistant commissioner who also is leaving.

Both men resigned this week amid questions about their ties to Neil Wallis, a former deputy editor of The News of the World — the now defunct Sunday tabloid at the core of the scandal — and the failure to reopen an earlier inquiry into phone hacking after a brief review in 2009.

The report said there had been “deliberate attempts by News International to thwart the various investigations” into the illicit hacking of voice mail. At the hearings on Tuesday, both Rupert and James Murdoch denied that they knew of the hacking at the time it happened, as did Ms. Brooks.

But, the panel said, Scotland Yard had shown no “real will” to penetrate those attempts. It said Mr. Yates’s review of evidence in 2009 had been “very poor” and he had shown a “serious misjudgment” in failing to order the hacking inquiry reopened.

“There has been a catalog of failures by the Metropolitan Police, and deliberate attempts by News International to thwart the various investigations,” the home affairs committee chairman, Keith Vaz, said.

He was referring to new attempts by both the police and a separate inquiry, set up by Mr. Cameron, to be led by a judge investigating what happened.

“The new inquiry requires additional resources and if these are not forthcoming, it will take years to inform all the potential victims,” he said.

The questioning of the Murdochs was suspended briefly on Tuesday after a man attacked Rupert Murdoch with a foil plate of shaving cream. The police said the man, identified as Jonathan May-Bowles, 26, from Windsor, west of London, was charged on Wednesday with “causing harassment, alarm or distress in a public place” under the Public Order Act.

He was released on bail and ordered to appear in court again on July 29.

While the hacking scandal has been simmering for years, it exploded into a full-blown scandal earlier this month with reports that the voice mail of 13-year-old abducted girl, Milly Dowler, had been hacked on the orders of The News of the World in 2002 when Ms. Brooks was its editor.

The News Corporation on Wednesday said that it had stopped paying legal fees for Glenn Mulcaire, a private investigator for The News of the World who pleaded guilty to phone hacking charges and went to jail in January 2007, news agencies reported. Both Mr. Murdoch and his son James told members of Parliament on Tuesday that they were surprised to learn that the company had been paying his legal fees, as well as those of Clive Goodman, the tabloid’s royal reporter, who has also pleaded guilty to phone hacking. Wednesday’s announcement did not mention Mr. Goodman.

The scandal has spread to encompass Mr. Cameron’s decision to hire another former editor of The News of the World, Andy Coulson, as his media director both before and after the elections that brought him to power at the head of a coalition government in May 2010.

Mr. Coulson, who resigned from the prime minister’s office in January, and Ms. Brooks are among 10 people arrested since January in connection with police investigations of phone hacking.

But, as the report on Wednesday by the home affairs committee showed, lawmakers sense they have an initiative to pursue the issue much further. Additionally, the Labour opposition seems to sense a new vulnerability after disclosures that Mr. Coulson consulted with Mr. Wallis while Mr. Coulson worked for the prime minister.

Mr. Wallis is also among those arrested in recent days.
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Re: Report: UK tabloid hacked into voicemails

Postby MacCruiskeen » Wed Jul 20, 2011 11:06 am

Very interesting, from Craig Murray:

What’s in a Name?


The police investigation into bribes to police officers by News of the World is called Operation Elveden. It has not identified, suspended or arrested a single bent cop.

What’s in a name? To Norfolk people Eleveden is a notorious bottleneck on the A11, the main road into and out of the county. You can, literally, queue for miles and for hours to get through Elveden in either direction. It is a place notorious to Norfolk for frustration, obstruction and never getting anywhere. I myself have spent a huge amount of time being stuck by Elveden; it is extremely difficult to avoid or get round. Elveden means no progress.

Andy Hayman was Chief Constable of Norfolk before moving down to the Met.

Did the Met name Operation Elveden as a grim in-joke to indicate they would make sure the accusations never went anywhere?

UPDATE

I have just realised I am definitely right. Operation Weeting is the investigation into the News of the World phone hacking itself. Weeting is the village at the southern end of the notorious Elveden traffic jam.



http://www.craigmurray.org.uk


Ho ho, the police have a sense of humour.

Reminds me of Operation Kratos, the Met's shoot-to-kill policy that resulted in the slaughter of Jean Charles de Menezes. The word kratos means 'power', 'strength' or 'rule', and Kratos was one of the gods who helped chain Prometheus (the rebel) to the rock.
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Re: Report: UK tabloid hacked into voicemails

Postby One Dog Watching » Wed Jul 20, 2011 11:53 am

More:
http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2011/07/ho ... iewed-24h5

"WENDI WON!" Again, WTF? Why do I fucking CARE if something is "good" for Murdoch? I love how we crave our gutless journalist class to tell us how "this is good for Murdoch". For some reason people still like to see that rich powerful people can get off, even if they're getting off for screwing us over. (See: The Bush Era) It's like they think we're all medieval peasants or plantation house slaves "hopin' and a-prayin' that the massuh don't have to go to no jail fo whut he done.". This is the programming, IMO. To make us continue to feel sorry for crooked-ass elites and their brood as they slime away from some new horrible breach in standard human decency, even as our own situations grow dire.




Endless distraction and manipulation.
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Re: Report: UK tabloid hacked into voicemails

Postby Stephen Morgan » Wed Jul 20, 2011 12:51 pm

http://madammiaow.blogspot.com/2011/07/ ... ament.html

13:47: What's fast emerging is that David Cameron is extremely slippery on several fronts.
1) Which company vetted Andy Coulson for Downing Street? What did they find? Did they donate to the Tories?
2) Did David Cameron ever discuss the BSkyB bid with News International figures? He has still not categorically denied it but has slid around it. "No inappropriate conversations."
3) Despite the Murdoch's pledges to change, they are refusing to release Harbottle & Lewis from their confidentially regarding the email letter denying there was a case to answer, whereas Lord McDonald found evidence of wrongdoing within five minutes.
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Re: Report: UK tabloid hacked into voicemails

Postby One Dog Watching » Wed Jul 20, 2011 1:32 pm

"Unsung Woman in Gray Blocked Protester First"

Wouldn't be surprised if she wore the pink jacket specifically to stand out over this woman's gray. Also typical of our fashion/money/media/elite-obsessed culture to notice that Wendy Murdoch was dressed in "couture fashions".


This shit was staged. Wendi Murdoch is now a celebrity.




http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/21/world ... 1nova.html


Unsung Woman in Gray Blocked Protester First
By GRAHAM BOWLEY

LONDON — The heroics of Wendi Deng Murdoch drew gasps of awe when she lunged out of her seat in a committee room Tuesday to protect her husband, Rupert Murdoch, from a protester wielding a shaving cream pie.

But there was another woman who actually intervened before Mrs. Murdoch did: Janet Nova, the News Corporation’s interim group general counsel.

It may have gone unnoticed in the scuffle and in the media hype that ensued, but Ms. Nova was the first to react to the protester’s approach. She leapt to her feet and, clutching her iPad, tried to block the man’s reach toward her boss. Mrs. Murdoch followed right behind her, and appeared to reach over Ms. Nova as she swung her arm in a great arc to deliver a sharp punch.

Ms. Nova, who is 46 and is based in New York, is a graduate of Princeton University and Columbia Law School who has been with the company since 1997. She was one of the troupe of company lawyers and public relationship advisors who prepared Mr. Murdoch for his appearance on Tuesday before a parliamentary committee looking into phone hacking by the company’s British newspapers.

Through more than two hours of questioning Ms. Nova, wearing a gray suit, sat patiently a few feet behind and to the left of Mr. Murdoch. When the protester — identified in British news reports as Jonathan May-Bowles, a comedian who performs under the name Johnnie Marbles — stormed toward the witness table from that side, Ms. Nova provided the first line of defense and Mrs. Murdoch the second, while James Murdoch, Rupert’s 38-year-old son, seemed frozen in surprise in his seat to his father’s right.

It was a curious moment, transforming a hearing that was, for many onlookers, mainly about seeing Rupert Murdoch humbled into one in which he enjoyed at least a little bit of sympathy from the crowd in the public hearing room and from the millions of viewers who watched on television or streaming video.

Ms. Nova has been in her post for only a month. Rupert Murdoch wrote in a company e-mail announcing her promotion on June 20 that she “has handled a number of major acquisitions for the company over the past several years, in addition to managing our corporate reporting and governance matters.”
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Re: Report: UK tabloid hacked into voicemails

Postby One Dog Watching » Wed Jul 20, 2011 1:48 pm

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wendi-rupert-m ... d=14109749

"I thought, 'That's our Rupert and that's our Wendi,'" Wolff told ABC News of his reaction to the couple's behavior during the otherwise solemn parliamentary hearing.

"...the thing you feel is kind of good for her."

"Deng's background is as feisty as the right hook and quick reflexes she displayed to protect her husband as he faced tense questioning by a British parliamentary panel, and now sees his media empire rollicked by scandal and arrests."


Endless sympathy, endless attempts at victimization...the narrative is that we're supposed to see them as co-captains of a battered ship weathering an unjust storm. What a joke.
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Re: Report: UK tabloid hacked into voicemails

Postby slimmouse » Wed Jul 20, 2011 1:52 pm

MacCruiskeen wrote:Very interesting, from Craig Murray:

What’s in a Name?


The police investigation into bribes to police officers by News of the World is called Operation Elveden. It has not identified, suspended or arrested a single bent cop.

What’s in a name? To Norfolk people Eleveden is a notorious bottleneck on the A11, the main road into and out of the county. You can, literally, queue for miles and for hours to get through Elveden in either direction. It is a place notorious to Norfolk for frustration, obstruction and never getting anywhere. I myself have spent a huge amount of time being stuck by Elveden; it is extremely difficult to avoid or get round. Elveden means no progress.

Andy Hayman was Chief Constable of Norfolk before moving down to the Met.

Did the Met name Operation Elveden as a grim in-joke to indicate they would make sure the accusations never went anywhere?

UPDATE

I have just realised I am definitely right. Operation Weeting is the investigation into the News of the World phone hacking itself. Weeting is the village at the southern end of the notorious Elveden traffic jam.



http://www.craigmurray.org.uk


Ho ho, the police have a sense of humour.

Reminds me of Operation Kratos, the Met's shoot-to-kill policy that resulted in the slaughter of Jean Charles de Menezes. The word kratos means 'power', 'strength' or 'rule', and Kratos was one of the gods who helped chain Prometheus (the rebel) to the rock.


Thanks for that Mac

Thank God it was Craig Murray, and not David Icke who picked up on this. Otherwise people might dismiss him as a raving lunatic.
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Re: Report: UK tabloid hacked into voicemails

Postby Nordic » Wed Jul 20, 2011 1:52 pm

One Dog Watching wrote:More:
http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2011/07/ho ... iewed-24h5

"WENDI WON!" Again, WTF? Why do I fucking CARE if something is "good" for Murdoch? I love how we crave our gutless journalist class to tell us how "this is good for Murdoch". For some reason people still like to see that rich powerful people can get off, even if they're getting off for screwing us over. (See: The Bush Era) It's like they think we're all medieval peasants or plantation house slaves "hopin' and a-prayin' that the massuh don't have to go to no jail fo whut he done.". This is the programming, IMO. To make us continue to feel sorry for crooked-ass elites and their brood as they slime away from some new horrible breach in standard human decency, even as our own situations grow dire.



Well any more, these people are hired because they are like this. You think News Corp is gonna hire any real journalists? No, they hire these underlings, these minions, who worship their overlords and do their bidding. We all knew these kinds of disgusting people in high school and even jr. high. Backstabbing toadies who would sell out their own family members if it meant they could bask in the glow of their leaders for five minutes.

They're all whores. Even the whistleblower who died was named HOARE.

I am really bothered by how they use the word "journalist" CONSTANTLY to describe these people. They are anything but!
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Re: Report: UK tabloid hacked into voicemails

Postby Stephen Morgan » Wed Jul 20, 2011 2:00 pm

One Dog Watching wrote:Jonathan May-Bowles, a comedian who performs under the name Johnnie Marbles


A posh fucker, is it? Not some sort of Bullingdonian, is he?
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