RI "Bad" Guys: UR DOIN IT WRONG

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Re: RI "Bad" Guys: UR DOIN IT WRONG

Postby Cosmic Cowbell » Tue Jan 19, 2010 10:10 pm

Cordelia,

I posted LPTs real name because for years she used her real name at UC and was always a key player in the Witnesses thread while a member and -that- is an important part of the history. I will say upfront that I believe she knows -now- that she was unwittingly used as a stalking horse. Not something I would be wearing on my sleeve either, I suppose. That said, she is a integral part of that -past- history, whether she or I or anybody else likes it or not. It is my opinion that the termination of her membership there was the best thing that ever happened to her in relation to her issues and her "friends". I do like her, believe it or not.

I'd also like to say that it as difficult for me to recall as it was for some to read. I watched it all happen in real time. Some may ask why I didn't do anything. Trust me when I say that I did.

Lastly, I posted only a small portion of a much larger story, one that I do not know the details of and so could only speculate. Which for the most part, I didn't. My motivation was simply this. A big part of RI is MC/RA and justice. It is a honeypot for those who feel connected to those causes in some way, be it victim, crusader, both or something in between. I really don't give a fuck if the forum folded tomorrow if it would continue to be that magnet, not only for people of true heart, but also to those who might wish to harm them without fear of discovery. They now have that fear, new cautions are posted and yes, people are suspicious and wary. They should be, because if anyone thinks these predators are simply going to find Jesus somewhere else, they are sadly mistaken.

As for DE, I have always felt partially responsible for that. I should have done more, as should have others. That said, I agree that after a point, he asked for it. My motivation for him to be allowed to speak here was more in the interest of clarification and, now that he has had a bit of time to reflect, it would be my hope that he might become an educator - the best ones speak from experience. I could care less about imagined ARGs, or the rest. I do believe he is honest guy and am willing to cut him some slack for trying to get to the bottom of something that has no bottom. He got A+ mindfucked, and whether or not he deserved it after some point, I have understanding and sympathy for the shoes he walked in, because they were extremely cruel shoes and cared not who wore them.

I thank C2W? for inspiring me to finally come clean. I saw a wrong turn being made and because of my respect for her and those who've been, AFAIK, misunderstood, I jumped in front of the bus. And as painful as it's been for some, including myself here, I know they'll get over it. Rather that, than the pain we might never know about.

Just ask Theresa Duncan.

Cheers friends...

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Re: RI "Bad" Guys: UR DOIN IT WRONG

Postby kenoma » Tue Jan 19, 2010 10:26 pm

Jeff wrote:I'm sorry for the ambiguity of my response.

I didn't mean to say that Et was a moderator. But to facilitate the board upgrade he temporarily held privileges common to mods. Sunny and Barracuda are the moderators, and no one else but me now shares those privileges.


Thanks, that's all I needed to hear. And pace smiths, I tdon't think my queston was needless needling: it's important that every single detail of board policy be spelt out as far as is humanly possible in the current climate. Any kind of obliquity as regards posting on the board is likely to prove far more destructive than the efforts of a few adolescent gameplayers.
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Re: RI "Bad" Guys: UR DOIN IT WRONG

Postby Cordelia » Tue Jan 19, 2010 10:39 pm

Cosmic Cowbell wrote:Cordelia,

I posted LPTs real name because for years she used her real name at UC and was always a key player in the Witnesses thread while a member and -that- is an important part of the history. I will say upfront that I believe she knows -now- that she was unwittingly used as a stalking horse. Not something I would be wearing on my sleeve either, I suppose. That said, she is a integral part of that -past- history, whether she or I or anybody else likes it or not. It is my opinion that the termination of her membership there was the best thing that ever happened to her in relation to her issues and her "friends". I do like her, believe it or not.


Sorry, but I think posting a member's real name, except under extreme circumstances, should be the choice of that member only, and nobody else, no matter what the history on this, or any other board.

I wish RI was safe for survivors of RA/MC to speak out, but I don't think any open internet board is. I hope that changes, but I don't know how.....
(Edited to add one speaks from one's own perspective and experience, of course.)
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Re: RI "Bad" Guys: UR DOIN IT WRONG

Postby Cosmic Cowbell » Tue Jan 19, 2010 10:43 pm

Cordelia wrote:Sorry, but I think posting a member's real name, except under extreme circumstances, should be the choice of that member only, and nobody else, no matter what the history on this, or any other board


Agreed. I am not opposed to removing it or letting the Mods edit the post if it's Admin's wish.
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Re: RI "Bad" Guys: UR DOIN IT WRONG

Postby freemason9 » Tue Jan 19, 2010 11:21 pm

After hours (okay, minutes) of research regarding ARG's, I have come to the realization after reading this thread that RI is, in fact, an elaborate ARG.

Drama.
The real issue is that there is extremely low likelihood that the speculations of the untrained, on a topic almost pathologically riddled by dynamic considerations and feedback effects, will offer anything new.
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Re: RI "Bad" Guys: UR DOIN IT WRONG

Postby IanEye » Tue Jan 19, 2010 11:38 pm

freemason9 wrote:After hours (okay, minutes) of research regarding ARG's, I have come to the realization after reading this thread that RI is, in fact, an elaborate ARG.

Drama.


After hours (okay, minutes) of research regarding ARG's, Eye have come to the realization after reading this thread that Freemasonry is, in fact, an elaborate ARG.

Drama.
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Re: RI "Bad" Guys: UR DOIN IT WRONG

Postby freemason9 » Tue Jan 19, 2010 11:42 pm

IanEye wrote:
freemason9 wrote:After hours (okay, minutes) of research regarding ARG's, I have come to the realization after reading this thread that RI is, in fact, an elaborate ARG.

Drama.


After hours (okay, minutes) of research regarding ARG's, Eye have come to the realization after reading this thread that Freemasonry is, in fact, an elaborate ARG.

Drama.


ha. life is grand, but the internet makes you stupid.
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Re: RI "Bad" Guys: UR DOIN IT WRONG

Postby IanEye » Tue Jan 19, 2010 11:45 pm

freemason9 wrote:
ha. life is grand, but the internet makes you stupid.


repetition is a form of change...
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Re: RI "Bad" Guys: UR DOIN IT WRONG

Postby norton ash » Tue Jan 19, 2010 11:46 pm

IanEye:
After hours (okay, minutes) of research regarding ARG's, Eye have come to the realization after reading this thread that Freemasonry is, in fact, an elaborate ARG.

Drama


Poifect, Ian. ARG and Drama... legends, secrets, rules, exclusion... costumes, mystery plays, sound and vision, thrills and chills, death oaths...
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Re: RI "Bad" Guys: UR DOIN IT WRONG

Postby freemason9 » Tue Jan 19, 2010 11:50 pm

that's it, let's pick on the freemasons now. fuckers.
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Re: RI "Bad" Guys: UR DOIN IT WRONG

Postby Ben D » Tue Jan 19, 2010 11:58 pm

freemason9 wrote:that's it, let's pick on the freemasons now. fuckers.


Nahhh,..you're just being played,..it's an arg after all!
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Re: RI "Bad" Guys: UR DOIN IT WRONG

Postby norton ash » Tue Jan 19, 2010 11:58 pm

Ah, g'wan, we like you fine, F9. You just freak us out a bit. Like Rotarians or Catholics.
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Re: RI "Bad" Guys: UR DOIN IT WRONG

Postby freemason9 » Wed Jan 20, 2010 12:05 am

norton ash wrote:Ah, g'wan, we like you fine, F9. You just freak us out a bit. Like Rotarians or Catholics.


you know what, though? i'm starting to like catholics these days--a strange thing for a freemason, i know, but they have such cool rites. i was a lutheran for many years, and that's about as close to catholicism any protestant usually gets; i finally ended up as a presbyterian, because the local congregation was so freakin' nice. and i need a church for the ritual of communion.

as it turns out, i'm actually a real christian. that surprised me as much as anyone.

haven't been to a lodge in years, so i don't know how well i identify with my screen name these days. may decide to change it to avoid the jabs.
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Re: RI "Bad" Guys: UR DOIN IT WRONG

Postby 23 » Wed Jan 20, 2010 12:29 am

Just food for thought, or not.

The next time that some virtual terrorists deserve a forthright addressing, we may want to consider a precise, surgical strike... aimed specifically at the terrorists... before employing a shock and awe approach.

It'll greatly minimize any collateral damage in the initiative.

I'm sure that we all want to minimize collateral damage in any righteous effort to combat virtual terrorists.

God(or your favorite alternative deity)speed, y'all.
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Re: RI "Bad" Guys: UR DOIN IT WRONG

Postby compared2what? » Wed Jan 20, 2010 12:47 am

Midnight EASTERN???

That's fifteen minutes from now. I mean, don't go changing just to please me. It just makes the other kids hate me anyway. Speaking of which, honestly, I have no idea as to why I wasn't banned several days ago. I mean, of course, I do actually have more than some idea as to why.

But a part of me was and still is shocked to find that I hadn't been. We're going to have to talk that one out some time. In public.

Give me two (I hope) seconds to compose my thoughts.
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