Two explosions at Boston marathon finish line

[Luther Blissett]

That firm is called Craft Security. Referring to Blackwater provides a frame of reference, but I think it's confusing.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Kyle

[Hunter]

Craft and Blackwater are mostly retired military guys, it seems to me, since they have contracts with the DoD, this will be an effective way to circumvent the Posse Comitatus Act and literally have military troops on the streets in the form of a private army/security company. It is happening slowly but surely.

[Hunter]

4chan found the white hat without his pack running away from bomb two. Black hat with tan pants is further back to the right of lady in pink.
I copied and uploaded these for everyone. Thanks to the anon who found this.
Album here http://imgur.com/a/ZiPKo


Please feel free top post the pics on the forum if you wish.

[Novem5er]

I have to agree with that, they do seem awfully cool and collected about it, I dont think the average non trained 20 year old would be that casual about carrying a bomb in to a crowd and about to kill and main hundreds maybe thousands for all they knew.

It does appear they are trained in some way or another for sort of thing.

As 8bit and I were saying, these guys may very well be actual trained jihad terrorists, that doesnt mean those giving them their orders arent connected somewhere up the food chain, in fact that is exactly how it usually plays out IMO.

Agreed that they appear calm and collective... as much as anyone can in 3 seconds of footage taken at 20 fps. For all we know, they are shaking in their boots, but certainly have been told "look casual or you'll be busted early and be fucking dead".

Alternately, they could also have very little idea that they are dropping off bombs. They could also have been told to do a dead drop of something more innocent in their mind. Unlikely, but another possibility. They might have had no idea that they were about to kill and harm dozens of people.

However, sources are telling CNN that these guys are on video AFTER the bombs have exploded and they appear to hang around and just watch the chaos. That tells me more that they knew what they were doing and were inspecting their work. Regardless, their calm demeanor certainly plays into the jihadist story that is slowly developing.

[Hunter]

You can see the guy in black hat and brown pants running away also by lady in pink. WOW. Thats pretty good evidence there.

[Hunter]

White hat running away with no pack after second blast?

[Hunter]

I have to agree with that, they do seem awfully cool and collected about it, I dont think the average non trained 20 year old would be that casual about carrying a bomb in to a crowd and about to kill and main hundreds maybe thousands for all they knew.

It does appear they are trained in some way or another for sort of thing.

As 8bit and I were saying, these guys may very well be actual trained jihad terrorists, that doesnt mean those giving them their orders arent connected somewhere up the food chain, in fact that is exactly how it usually plays out IMO.

Agreed that they appear calm and collective... as much as anyone can in 3 seconds of footage taken at 20 fps. For all we know, they are shaking in their boots, but certainly have been told "look casual or you'll be busted early and be fucking dead".

Alternately, they could also have very little idea that they are dropping off bombs. They could also have been told to do a dead drop of something more innocent in their mind. Unlikely, but another possibility. They might have had no idea that they were about to kill and harm dozens of people.

However, sources are telling CNN that these guys are on video AFTER the bombs have exploded and they appear to hang around and just watch the chaos. That tells me more that they knew what they were doing and were inspecting their work. Regardless, their calm demeanor certainly plays into the jihadist story that is slowly developing.

Reports have suggested they used REMOTE CONTROL CAR devices to set these off so they had to stick around relatively close to detonate if that is true and I have found it to be fairly accurate so far.

[The Consul]

Also find it interesting in quick view I gave to CNN that the "moderator" said at least 3 times of the two hats "Law enforcement considers them armed and extremely dangerous." If they do not know who they are, if they do not know where they are, if they are not really even sure if these are the perpetrators, then how can they assume that they are armed?


Also, I think the guy in the White Hat looks like that bloated urine bag, Michael Savage.

[Hunter]

This is all SECOND BLAST SITE so there MUST be another group doing this at the first blast site, especially if they had to be THAT CLOSE to detonate, I heard earlier FBI is looking for 6 guys total but I have not confirmed that.

[Novem5er]

Reports have suggested they used REMOTE CONTROL CAR devices to set these off so they had to stick around relatively close to detonate if that is true and I have found it to be fairly accurate so far.

Absolutely. It would also explain why the devices weren't more powerful: they knew they had to sneak them in using backpacks and that they'd have to stand relatively close to detonate them. No arguments with anything CNN is reporting so far, other than to say that it does continue with the Jihadist story. However, just like paranoia.... just because you're paranoid doesn't mean jihadists aren't trying to attack America.

But as was stated earlier, it seems like every jihadist attack in the last decade has been linked to some government informant or agency, so why should this be any different?

ALSO, those blackwater/craft guys appear to be National Guard Civilian Response Services team.... basically part-time NBC experts? Photos of uniforms included in link below:

http://killerapps.foreignpolicy.com/pos ... _yesterday

Which begs the question, why were these guys activated before the bombing? Are these teams always present at big events in Boston? Also the pic of the two guys standing together.... they look a little too professional to just be National Guard. They just scream "special forces" to me.

[Hunter]

Reports have suggested they used REMOTE CONTROL CAR devices to set these off so they had to stick around relatively close to detonate if that is true and I have found it to be fairly accurate so far.

Absolutely. It would also explain why the devices weren't more powerful: they knew they had to sneak them in using backpacks and that they'd have to stand relatively close to detonate them. No arguments with anything CNN is reporting so far, other than to say that it does continue with the Jihadist story. However, just like paranoia.... just because you're paranoid doesn't mean jihadists aren't trying to attack America.

But as was stated earlier, it seems like every jihadist attack in the last decade has been linked to some government informant or agency, so why should this be any different?

ALSO, those blackwater/craft guys appear to be National Guard Civilian Response Services team.... basically part-time NBC experts? Photos of uniforms included in link below:

http://killerapps.foreignpolicy.com/pos ... _yesterday

Which begs the question, why were these guys activated before the bombing? Are these teams always present at big events in Boston? Also the pic of the two guys standing together.... they look a little too professional to just be National Guard. They just scream "special forces" to me.

Great points, I agree with it all.


Also there has to be at least TWO OTHER guys at BOMB SITE ONE right, if these two set off bomb two which was set off like TEN SECONDS after BOMB ONE they couldnt have been two places at once and the remote control car stuff wouldnt carry that distance to dentonate at both sites, so there has to be more guys involved and apparently the feds have nothing on those guys at site one yet.


As discussed already the jihad angle means nothing they could in fact be actual trained terrorists working for alqeada or whatever, what we dont know is who gave them the orders and the technology and know how to build the bombs, that could easily be someone 'conntected' up the food chain and it could still very well be false flag by definition. So the jihad angle CNN is pushing doesnt mean none of what us tin foil hatters believe isnt true, in fact IMO it supports it further.

[Novem5er]

CNN is trying to say that each guy in the pictures had a backpack, and therefore, both were carrying a bomb. Supposedly they dropped off one bomb, kept walking, and then dropped off the other bomb. So how does this mesh with the short-range of the detonators? We need to look that up... 1) how far apart were the bombs (distance), and 2) what is the effective range of that type of remote control car controller? Should be easy to google.... I'll work on that.

And agreed about the jihadist angle... it does more to support tin-foil-hat theories than it does to deny them. Funnily, CNN runs an article this week about how our Drone policy has been creating new radicals around the globe, actually quoting a Yemeni man who stated that he knew several dozen people who were now joining the jihadists to enact revenge for American drone strikes.

Yet, more jihadist bombings only reinforces the government's stance that drones are needed and, additionally, that we have new targets to destroy.

[FourthBase]

This is all SECOND BLAST SITE so there MUST be another group doing this at the first blast site, especially if they had to be THAT CLOSE to detonate, I heard earlier FBI is looking for 6 guys total but I have not confirmed that.

Good fucking point.

If these two were up by Fairfield, then somebody else had to have been down by Exeter, right?
Where the first one exploded? The one in front of LensCrafters?







If anyone can find a better pictorial map of the Back Bay, that's the optimal kind of map.

[General Patton]

Shit man, I'd be more worried about the bombs accidentally detonating. A high population density city like Boston has signals constantly being sent out.

[Hunter]

Lets work on that and see if it is possible they could have detonated both with remote control stuff, I dont know a lot about it but just off my head people fly helicopters and planes remote control all the time pretty high up in the air, the only thing is the guy interviewed that said the parts he saw on the ground indicatd very simple small remote control car stuff was used for this, that being the case they would have had to have been relatively close, no?

I guess we need to find out how far apart those bombs were, at this point I dont think these guys did both sites, ALSO DONT WE HAVE ACCURATE REPORTS that the FEDS BLEW UP OTHER DEVICES the next day, that didnt go off? Or was that one of CNNs fuck ups? I do recall hearing the feds found other bombs that didnt go off, so that could explain the two back packs at bomb site TWO one went off and one didnt which would lead us to assume there are other guys at bomb site one, follow me?


Im just guessing so take it FWIW. Lets do some work on it.


We need to CONFIRM that the feds found BOMBS that did not go off, that was def reported in the media the days following all of this that they found, I believe, at least TWO OTHER devices that did not detonate and they brought it bomb squad to blow them up.

CAN ANYONE CONFIRM IS THAT IS TRUE OR NOT?