Bernie Sanders running for preznit?

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Re: Bernie Sanders running for preznit?

Postby 82_28 » Thu Apr 14, 2016 6:43 am

I don't think he's imperialist at all. I think he was given a ball of yarn and is doing something useful with it. There has never been a democrat I've seen in life outside of Jimmy Carter that I said Jesus, this person is for real (I was only a baby back then). I watched that whole speech and was looking for something, anything that I could possibly disagree with him on. Blip. Ain't no cult of personality, I just agreed 100%. Everything is spot on. I firmly believe he is a good soul which the world desperately needs.
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Re: Bernie Sanders running for preznit?

Postby FourthBase » Thu Apr 14, 2016 7:36 am

RocketMan » 14 Apr 2016 01:27 wrote:
FourthBase » Thu Apr 14, 2016 7:40 am wrote:Simone Zimmerman as his campaign director for Jewish outreach is the stupidest political decision a presidential candidate has made in a long time. Retarded. He has no intention of winning.


Why are you so preoccupied with questions of race and Semitic ethnicities?

You always couch it in some equivocating ponderings on power and deception that usually ends up amounting to some variaton of "on one hand but then on the other" and "iz very important to question everthing".

But it always boils down to race and ethnicity with you.


Uh, what?
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Re: Bernie Sanders running for preznit?

Postby JackRiddler » Thu Apr 14, 2016 9:01 am

The police estimated total crowd at 48,000. If both this and the inside-the-park number is correct, this means they kept 20,000 people from entering the park. They set up barricades on Broadway two blocks away from Washington Square Park and stopped letting people through by the time the rally started, and double barricades insulating the park with the perimeter streets kept empty. This has become the normal situation for every large public assembly since the late 1990s. To get through I was able to convince a cop I was going to the NYU library (which is where I ended up - outside it). The buffer blocks leading up to the park were empty and could have accommodated people easily. Once I got to WSP South, there were thousands of people outside the park until the rally ended, but there was no trouble hearing the speeches. High enthusiasm, all that. If you've heard the stump speech however, you know what was said (with the addition of the current Verizon strike). Nothing much to report the pictures don't already say. Minor celebrity note, afterward I went through the park and in the press after going through a barricade on the other side didn't notice I almost ran into Rosario Dawson from behind until I heard her voice. If I had said anything, it would have been to keep doing what she's been doing after the votes are done. All that being said, the media and politicians here are all 24/7 Clinton and at best Tuesday will be close.
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Re: Bernie Sanders running for preznit?

Postby Luther Blissett » Thu Apr 14, 2016 10:39 am



Did you ask her if she wants to go out on a date with me, and if not, why?
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Re: Bernie Sanders running for preznit?

Postby Luther Blissett » Thu Apr 14, 2016 10:44 am

I've been seeing this get a lot of play lately.

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Re: Bernie Sanders running for preznit?

Postby Wombaticus Rex » Thu Apr 14, 2016 12:33 pm

RocketMan » Thu Apr 14, 2016 1:27 am wrote:
FourthBase » Thu Apr 14, 2016 7:40 am wrote:Simone Zimmerman as his campaign director for Jewish outreach is the stupidest political decision a presidential candidate has made in a long time. Retarded. He has no intention of winning.


Why are you so preoccupied with questions of race and Semitic ethnicities?

You always couch it in some equivocating ponderings on power and deception that usually ends up amounting to some variaton of "on one hand but then on the other" and "iz very important to question everthing".

But it always boils down to race and ethnicity with you.


1) 4B is making a (cogent, valid) point about politics and perception. Zimmerman comes with a lot a lot of baggage, she is a built-in liability.

2) You know who is also fond of boiling things down to "race and ethnicity" ? The Chosen People. And 4B is talking about their perceptions of Sanders, a Jewish candidate. Based on campaign decisions Sanders made.

3) Despite the cosmopolitan diverse pretensions of high modernism, "Reversion to Primary Loyalties" has been the primary story of the post 2000 AD world. If you're sick of hearing that race and ethnicity talk, buckle the fuck up.
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Re: Bernie Sanders running for preznit?

Postby JackRiddler » Thu Apr 14, 2016 2:33 pm

Luther Blissett » Thu Apr 14, 2016 9:39 am wrote:


Did you ask her if she wants to go out on a date with me, and if not, why?


She said she respects you too much for just sex.

Actually, she was getting some of this earlier while the barricades were still operant - Some guy standing on a chair: "Hey Rosario! Rosario Dawson!" (She doesn't react.) Me: "She's still not going to go out with you."

So in the totally inconsequential run-in that was still slightly electric for me, I felt ridiculous to say anything whatsoever. Maintain dignity!
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Re: Bernie Sanders running for preznit?

Postby JackRiddler » Thu Apr 14, 2016 2:36 pm

Luther Blissett » Thu Apr 14, 2016 9:44 am wrote:I've been seeing this get a lot of play lately.

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Why? What about it, other than the smooth handshake?
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Re: Bernie Sanders running for preznit?

Postby Iamwhomiam » Thu Apr 14, 2016 2:39 pm

I believe the time is ripe for a military coup.
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Re: Bernie Sanders running for preznit?

Postby JackRiddler » Thu Apr 14, 2016 2:41 pm

Wombaticus Rex » Thu Apr 14, 2016 11:33 am wrote:3) Despite the cosmopolitan diverse pretensions of high modernism, "Reversion to Primary Loyalties" has been the primary story of the post 2000 AD world. If you're sick of hearing that race and ethnicity talk, buckle the fuck up.


Born white ethnic speaking, here: The "primary loyalties" never, ever went away and they never even receded in particular. It's more like so much "secondary" is breaking down, making these look more obvious and handy as one of several dubious strategies for dealng.
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Re: Bernie Sanders running for preznit?

Postby RocketMan » Thu Apr 14, 2016 4:05 pm

Fair enough... That was a flame-y, uncalled for post. I apologize. By way of some explanation, I guess I've just become overly sensitive on the forum to stuff pertaining to race, identity, gender... I feel sometimes there's some fairly regressive stuff going on under the cover of non-mainstream inquiry.

But this was not it, sorry FourthBase.

I did Google the person in question, so I managed to learn something new from all this. It's just sad that in this world of ours someone who honestly takes a righteous stand is indeed a political liability.
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Re: Bernie Sanders running for preznit?

Postby Luther Blissett » Thu Apr 14, 2016 4:49 pm

JackRiddler » Thu Apr 14, 2016 1:36 pm wrote:
Luther Blissett » Thu Apr 14, 2016 9:44 am wrote:I've been seeing this get a lot of play lately.

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Why? What about it, other than the smooth handshake?


Yeah, precisely the smooth handshake. People on social media were (correctly) reading into the deeper meaning of him being "there for them". Someone said that this was way bigger for her than The Bird.
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Re: Bernie Sanders running for preznit?

Postby 82_28 » Thu Apr 14, 2016 5:49 pm

He knows how to give a handshake. I shake people's hands all the time and always have. You intrinsically know where they are "going with it" and adapt. He knew what the dude was going for as opposed to being a clueless old man.
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Re: Bernie Sanders running for preznit?

Postby RocketMan » Fri Apr 15, 2016 1:24 am

http://gawker.com/bernie-sanders-suspen ... socialflow

In an act of political cowardice, the campaign of Bernie Sanders has suspended a young staffer named Simone Zimmerman, who was recently hired to coordinate the campaign’s outreach to Jewish communities, for criticizing Benjamin Netanyahu, the right-wing Prime Minister of Israel, in a year-old post on Facebook.


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Re: Bernie Sanders running for preznit?

Postby FourthBase » Fri Apr 15, 2016 1:32 am

RocketMan » 15 Apr 2016 00:24 wrote:http://gawker.com/bernie-sanders-suspends-staffer-for-criticizing-israeli-1771110775?utm_campaign=socialflow_gawker_facebook&utm_source=gawker_facebook&utm_medium=socialflow

In an act of political cowardice, the campaign of Bernie Sanders has suspended a young staffer named Simone Zimmerman, who was recently hired to coordinate the campaign’s outreach to Jewish communities, for criticizing Benjamin Netanyahu, the right-wing Prime Minister of Israel, in a year-old post on Facebook.


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More an act of political sanity. It's not about a single Facebook post.
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