by Dreams End » Sun Mar 18, 2007 11:27 am
Anne Strieber? Well, if Whitley Strieber is hoaxing all of it, then she's in on it. No other option.
But under all this bizarreness there's this weird internal consistency. For example, if it were a hoax then I think in Communion she would have either been given a more direct witness role or would have been left out. Instead, she has memories of knowing that Strieber "gets up" in the night but she knows instinctively or via suggestion that she is not to follow. That makes the "evidence" weaker and so, in my view, makes the story seem more authentic. Why not, if he's making this stuff up, just write that she saw a bright light and then lost consciousness? Or have her be a full witness or participant in these events?
I actually managed to track down a witness to a small part of Communion. She and her husband were at the cabin but her account differs from Strieber's in one way. The night after the events she and her husband recalled nothing unusual but when he called them up three months later after his own hypnotic regressions and asked (without prompting with any leading questions) they both remembered odd details they hadn't remembered that night. She found that odd. Why would she not have remembered the events the next day?
That's the sort of thing that makes me believe there's an underlying reality here.
Now, as for Freemasons. Jeez. One thing to remember is that like the Jews and communists, Freemasons have often been blamed anytime opposition to the ruling elites came along. Everyone, so it goes, is actually perfectly happy till these outside agitators come in and stir things up.
That said, I can't seem to extricate myself from explanations that don't at least in part involve Freemasonry. Here's an example. The original "Round Table" started by Puharich had Henry Wallace, former vice president, as a supporter. Wallace was a Christian but also into mystical Freemasonry and got in some hot water for writing letters to Nicholas Roerich and calling him "guru."
Wallace also had a dream to "Christianize" China. AT about that time, Edgar Cayce, who was far more knowledgeable about Western hermetic lore than popular accounts would let on, started having "visions" of a Christian China. Meanwhile, he too was big on Freemasonry.
So fast forward to the seventies and you have SRI's Changing Images of man which sets up Freemasonry as the best example of what this "new religion" needs to look like.
The question becomes, are those guys latching onto this already existing stream because it suits their purposes or is a big part of the agenda to continue this longrunning "project"? While I am going with the former hypothesis for now, since there's simply so much distortion and mythologizing going on that I'm trying to get underneath, I keep running into some pretty convincing evidence that, although this stuff is currently a tool of our national security state, it certainly had a history well before the onset of the national security state. It's almost trivially easy to track it back to Nazi times and really to the turn of the previous century.
But it gets murky after that because any esoteric group you could name will trace its lineage back into the mists of time, so to speak, whether or not that lineage is real.
So, the templars existed. We know that. They got shut down. We know that too. Some claim they went underground...that seems sketchier to me. And while gatherings of literal stone mason guilds certainly track back to not long after this, it wasn't until...what, the 17th century?...that people began participating in Masonry for esoteric reasons. At least as far as I can see from the historical records.
The fact that Freemasonry borrows from Egyptian lore does not mean it is therefore part of some continuous lineage. But, to be honest, there's really not that huge of a gap between the Templars and the rise of the Freemasons in recorded history. So it's certainly conceivable to me that whatever the Templars were up may have continued underground. It's just that I don't take that as a given.
To add to this, there are other twists which may come into this. There's been a Freemason/Catholic battle, I think, for hundreds of years. This is why some like Daniel Brandt have speculated that Lyndon Larouche may, in part, be supported by the Vatican. Anti-Masonic, anti-Anglican, etc.
Whether this is an extension of the battle against the Templars or arose due to the independent threat the church saw Freemasonry to be, that doesn't mean that one side is the "good guys" necessarily.
But it does mean a lot of "psychological warfare" and disinformation over centuries.
But I think there's another interesting phenomenon that I don't know that anyone is tracking, and that is the deliberate attempt to influence Catholicism (as well as other brands of Christianity) in the esoteric direction. Think Dan Brown, of course. But did you all know that Strieber, when not shilling for the Cosmic Mafia, along with his buddy Ed Conroy who wrote "Report on Communion" are into the whole Jesus married Mary Magdalene and the bloodline survived business? And bringing the alien theme into Catholicism and Christianity is also a part of that. If someone ever writes a biography of Danny Sheehan, I think that this effort will be pretty apparent.
Meanwhile, before Strieber started having his abduction experiences at the cabin, he'd been part of the "Gurdjieff foundation." He says, somewhat cryptically, that this is a private group and NOT the group that uses that name publicly. Well, Gurdjieff is in that same tradition of Freemasonry and other Western occultism mixed in with arcana from Egypt and also things like Sufism.
The basic idea is that there is a continuous line of "secret" adepts shaping history...in this case they are "good guys" not plotting Jews. This was Gurdjieff's contention. This puts Strieber's "Secret School" experiences into a different light. In fact, the woman who ran the "astronomy club" that is so linked to those experiences, seems to have been into this sort of thing...Rosicrucianism or Theosophy or something along those lines (I'd love to look at her letters which are preserved in a Texas library.) He speculates openly in Secret School that maybe she, (Arlene Carter, former poet Laureate of Texas) was actually the "alien nun" of his experiences and similarities in description support this idea.
And Strieber mentions the somewhat disturbing fact that when he'd been in this secret Gurdjieff foundation he had been "working" with young people. I.e. maybe he, too, was running a "secret school."
So, are various elites in a longrunning conspiracy to take over the world? Well, they are elites..they already run the world. But they are elites and elites like to feel...well elite. Therefore, any spirituality that suggests that the world is run (and by extension, SHOULD be run) by an elite core of spiritual adepts who, either by membership in a "spiritual brotherhood" or by access to "spiritual technology", is going to be a preferred religion to one that suggests we are all equal in God's eyes. And I think that is why you have all these longrunning occult undercurrents which seem to always be just below the surface of "mainstream history."
With that interpretation, in some ways at least, it doesn't really matter that much whether there really is one longrunning elite occult underground or whether elites at various times have developed esoteric beliefs which borrow from and claim continuity with former belief systems. Meanwhile, the Catholic/Freemasonry battles seem more about WHICH elites get to run the place than about one side championing the rights of the people against the other.