Two explosions at Boston marathon finish line

[Hunter]

This is all SECOND BLAST SITE so there MUST be another group doing this at the first blast site, especially if they had to be THAT CLOSE to detonate, I heard earlier FBI is looking for 6 guys total but I have not confirmed that.

Good fucking point.

If these two were up by Fairfield, then somebody else had to have been down by Exeter, right?
Where the first one exploded? The one in front of LensCrafters?







If anyone can find a better pictorial map of the Back Bay, that's the optimal kind of map.

EXACTLY.

[Hunter]

I dont get why nobody is talking about site ONE this is all site TWO, so wtf, I just dont see how they could have done both. Thats a few blocks awy not a real short distance, I am sure 4thbase can weigh in on how far apart the bombs were but it seems to me we have to have a SECOND TEAM OF GUYS at bomb site one, yet no mention of that in the media, everyone focusing on bomb site two as if this case is now solved. We need to get people focusing on site ONE. Anyone who posts on REDDIT please make comments about what the fuck is going on at site one so they can get on that too.

[FourthBase]

Apparently, anyone can buy that Craft hat.

http://co-store.com/craftgear

But obviously, since these guys were good guys, part of the National Guard CST WMD unit, then there'd be no reason to hide the fact that you used to be or currently are a Craft employee. So, hat, worn with pride. As you stand more or less exactly in front of the spot in front of LensCrafters where the first bomb went off. Only guilty of an epic, epic failure to notice anything suspicious like a couple semi-swarthy dudes stroll by and drop off a bag full of some stuff and then walk away.

[Hunter]

LOL good point. Epic fail.

[MinM]

Redditors: Sunil Tripathi missing Brown student since March 28

@GregMitch: Someone at Reddit may have found photo of White Cap Guy rounding corner AFTER blast, see: http://bit.ly/14A8dQz

https://twitter.com/GregMitch/status/325036042233184256

[8bitagent]

I watched The Siege last night for the first time in over a decade. Definitely a lot of foreshadowing.

What are their purposes and intentions? Maybe a trial run of manipulating public opinion and emotion in the hyper-intenet age. Maybe a new round of Operation Gladio-style "strategy of tension." The three-part event, with the 9/11 flashback Risin threat in the middle, is too much for me to buy as something any rogue group could pull off. I hate to sound stereotypically alarmist, but this could be the beginning of a lot more of "terrorism"- an escalation from guns to bombs.

Yep, more small scale IED attacks, most definitely more Beslan styled massacres. Idiots on youtube calling "Sandy Hook" a hoax don't get it. 9/11 was a big monolith dropped in the middle of NYC, and people wondered why there was no followup attacks. Just the anthrax and DC sniper event(and shoebomb attempt), all three of which were seemingly unrelated. No matter who or what was behind 9/11, it was first and foremost an experiment on the minds of the public. And again, whoever did Boston, why now? Strategy of Tension domestically, ratcheting of seemingly disparate world events that feel like they're converging.

Re: Seals/Blackwater hat -- if indeed these guys were involved why would they be wearing an f'ing hat that essentially identifies them as Seals/Blackwater, if not just as another disinfo/conspiracy meme-inspiring diversionary tactic? [rhetorical question]

Surely they anticipated [in this current golden age of instant info and armchair cybersleuths] the ensuing mass online micro-analysis of any/all available photos/vid caps

Well it's like why would a Saudi kid in full traditional Saudi male garb be behind it as Michael Savage and the Islamaphone brigade thing. Of course none of it makes sense.
At the very least you can see in the photo these two security guys are suppose to be protecting the crowd but instead dont seem to notice a backpack placed behind the barrier.
Total boners on their part

[FourthBase]

Redditors: Sunil Tripathi missing Brown student since March 28

@GregMitch: Someone at Reddit may have found photo of White Cap Guy rounding corner AFTER blast, see: http://bit.ly/14A8dQz

https://twitter.com/GregMitch/status/325036042233184256

Holy shit. I remember that from the news.
His aunt or teacher spoke glowingly about him.

[battleshipkropotkin]

Sunil Tripathi featured on Good Morning America in late March? They don't do that for all missing persons, surely. What was the cryptic note?

[Novem5er]

I don't get the geography of the bomb sites yet, and I'm a little confused about "where" these perp pictures were taken. However, I have been looking into RC ranged for toy cars, etc.

It looks like there are two grades and the CNN reporters or FBI agents might not be making a clear enough distinction. First, we have "toy" RC cars that are typically bought at places like Radio Shack and their radio controllers typically are single channel and have an operating range of 75-100 feet. However, there is then the "hobby" level RC cars and helicopters that have a much greater range. It's possible that to the FBI or CNN, both of these are just "toys" and so lump them all together. However, on a hobbyist's website I found, he talks about how a good "hobby grade" radio controller can have an operating range of 3,000+ feet, barring interference from outside sources (he mentions power lines and buildings).

So when CNN reports that the radio controllers are like those found in toy cars... do they mean the $35 car from Radio Shack with a 100 foot range or the $350 model with a range of over 1,000 feet? If they mean the latter, then it is possible that the perps could have dropped one backpack, walked a 150 feet and dropped the other, then walked another couple hundred feet and popped both devices.

The hobby site, BTW: http://www.rchelicopterfun.com/radio-co ... pters.html

[8bitagent]

http://www.poynter.org/latest-news/als- ... -suspects/

Poor guy. He died at 44 after being absolutely vilified as the "1996 Olympic bomber" from intentional leaks from authorities. Even tho we now know he was a hero that day.

What I'm curious is, how many suspects does the FBI and media think there potentially are compared to the cyber sleuth reddit/4chan/conspiracy forum folks?
Why is there an image of the bearded white guy in the blue jacket reaching over the rails with what looks like a bag of some sort?

As 8bit and I were saying, these guys may very well be actual trained jihad terrorists, that doesnt mean those giving them their orders arent connected somewhere up the food chain, in fact that is exactly how it usually plays out IMO.

The talkbacks and comment section on certain sites are awash with "MOSSAD!" I mean it's true, you look at IDF photos and half the kids do look Arabic who serve for Israel. To me they look Middle Eastern, some say they look white. This whole Boston situation, especially the Where's Waldo freezeframe suspects, feel like a cipher. Unintentionally or not this whole experiment is partially a blank canvas.

The thing with Michael Savage hyping the Saudi angle...does he realize that opens up a can of worms toward the Saudis and Bush/GOP? The Saudis is an inkwell dipped too many times. If these are "the guys", it indeed will be interesting to see if they try and tie them to a 'state sponsor' or just an independent group. IF they do tie them to Iran or Syria, ya can bet there may be followup attacks to shoehorn the idea that we're under siege and soften us up toward action. IF these point to a state sponsor, especially one in which the US is salivating to invade, then a black op would almost be absolute to me.

Re: the security guys, I explained to my friend "A photo from different angles shows two buff guys in Craft hats, black jackets and bulky tan khaki pants/shoes before the blasts looking in the direction of where the Site 1 backpack is placed. Craft is a security company that like Blackwater, hires mostly ex special forces/seals/delta/commandos for high paid security jobs. To me it's like, what sort of knuckleheads are they if they aren't actively monitoring behavior and noticing guys dropping and leaving big bulky backpacks and fleeing. " Not saying they have to be psychic, but geez.

[psynapz]

FourthBase, I just have to say I really admire your passionate ontological leadership in this thread. I'm about a hundred miles away and it's a relief that we have an RIer on the scene, keepsin it rigorous and demanding intuition for the pure New Englander's love of the irreplaceable little big city of Boston.

So when CNN reports that the radio controllers are like those found in toy cars... do they mean the $35 car from Radio Shack with a 100 foot range or the $350 model with a range of over 1,000 feet? If they mean the latter, then it is possible that the perps could have dropped one backpack, walked a 150 feet and dropped the other, then walked another couple hundred feet and popped both devices.

Except they detonated 12 seconds apart. What took the other one 12 seconds from FIRE signal to detonation? I suppose in this Single Actor Theory, they could have set off the first bomb, then hit the button for the second bomb which didn't go off, so they kept hitting the button and jogging closer and closer. Surveillance cameras should be able to show that sort of particular physical activity if true.

Seems sensible that it was multiple people. I mean, what with all the other suspicious packages and devices they subsequently found laying around Boston, to say nothing of Building 7, the JFK Museum.

[Novem5er]

Regarding the Sunil Tripathi similarities.... Am I the only one getting weird "Nick Berg" vibes.

Remember him? The American guy beheaded in Iraq... and shown all over the internet. The same Nick Berg who'd been held by American forces for several days (denied many times over and then half-confirmed) before being released and beheaded. The SAME Nick Berg who's email address was actually used by Zacarias Moussaoui in relation to the 9/11 attacks! Somehow this innocent Nick Berg is connected to everybody.

Now Sunil? Just strange.

[FourthBase]

FourthBase, I just have to say I really admire your passionate ontological leadership in this thread. I'm about a hundred miles away and it's a relief that we have an RIer on the scene, keepsin it rigorous and demanding intuition for the pure New Englander's love of the irreplaceable little big city of Boston.

Thank you, psynapz. I love this city. Today was hard. Reading about the Lu girl broke me up.
I even got teary during Obama's speech. Whatever he is, the man can orate.

Seems sensible that it was multiple people. I mean, what with all the other suspicious packages and devices they subsequently found laying around Boston, to say nothing of Building 7, the JFK Museum.

Great comparison.

[Novem5er]

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Except they detonated 12 seconds apart. What took the other one 12 seconds from FIRE signal to detonation? I suppose in this Single Actor Theory, they could have set off the first bomb, then hit the button for the second bomb which didn't go off, so they kept hitting the button and jogging closer and closer. Surveillance cameras should be able to show that sort of particular physical activity if true.

Seems sensible that it was multiple people. I mean, what with all the other suspicious packages and devices they subsequently found laying around Boston, to say nothing of Building 7, the JFK Museum.

It's very possible that they just waited 12 seconds... enjoying the scene, as sick as that is. Or they were hoping to catch a wave of people in the second blast as they ran away from the first one. A dozen small bangs is more terrifying than a single bang from multiple sources.. I don't know, just pondering. I think it might have been just these two guys with bombs. Two guys = two backpacks = two bombs = two radio controllers = two explosions.

However, I'm just talking about the devices. I fully admit, and kind of suspect, other members of the conspiracy in the crowd or behind the scene. I don't think these two guys did this all on their own. I can't imagine that they just got together over a game of beer-pong one night and said, "You know, bro... I have this crazy idea. You in?"

[Fresno_Layshaft]

Regarding the Sunil Tripathi similarities.... Am I the only one getting weird "Nick Berg" vibes.

I'm getting Sirhan Sirhan vibe from him. How crazy would it be, normal young man goes missing and month later is caught on video bombing the Boston Marathon? Some Manchurian business going on there.