Journalist Michael Hastings is dead at 33

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Re: Journalist Michael Hastings is dead at 33

Postby Hunter » Fri Jun 28, 2013 7:01 am

justdrew » Thu Jun 27, 2013 6:31 pm wrote:well, there was the "rumors" (supposedly due to a buried IJ report) that Brennan was the one who leaked classified info to the 0D30 film right?

Yea I have heard both Brennan and Panetta's name tied to that leak, but would that be considered a big enough story that someone like MH would get freaked over? I think it probably has something to do with the Petreas/Broadwell/Kelley story more than anything else and here is why I think that: early on after his death rumors started to circulate that he was doing a story on Kelley but then it came out the other day that he wasnt doing a story on Kelley (again with the "what the fuck are we to believe anymore," meme here) so it could be he was working on the larger issue, big picture story of Petreas/Broadwell/Kelley and him contacting Kelley about that perhaps led some to believe he was doing a story on here when it fact he wasnt as it was about the larger issue of that whole mess and not specifically her as such. But that is just a guess based on the rumors that he was working on a Kelley story and then later rumors that he wasnt.

I am not one to throw out "the jews are behind it all" but maybe he found some sort of shadowy connection between Mossad and the CIA in relation to the Petreas-Broadwell story since Broadwell does indeed have deep connections with Mossad and other Israeli intelligence groups. That would be the sort of thing that would fray his nerves and maybe get him silenced. Again just a guess based on...well nothing really.


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Re: Journalist Michael Hastings is dead at 33

Postby Hunter » Fri Jun 28, 2013 7:16 am

Nordic » Fri Jun 28, 2013 1:44 am wrote:
Yes Elise is a great journalist in her own right, she is the former speechwriter for Condi Rice



WHAT? I mean, WHAT? Let me say that again, WHAT??

Yes it is true, I said the same thing you just did when I found out but it is indeed true that Hastings' wife/widow, Elise Jordan Hastings was Condi Rice's speech writer. I couldnt believe it either, not that it means anything but like I said it is an interesting little twist and at the very least ties his wife to some of the very right wing war mongers that Hastings himself worked hard to expose. I know that being a speechwriter doesnt mean she is a supporter but the speechwriter is generally the one who pushes the verbal agenda/talking points for whoever they are representing and writing for.

Just another little gem among many in this case.
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Re: Journalist Michael Hastings is dead at 33

Postby Hunter » Fri Jun 28, 2013 7:59 am

I made contact with Russ Baker over at WhoWhatWhy and he said he is investigating the Hastings case, so that is a very promising development, Baker is very good at that sort of thing.

Speaking of which, I just saw this story over at his website, it is the story of a plot that the FBI knew about, to assassinate Occupy (OWS) members. If you guys think this deserves a thread of its own please go ahead and make one, I am posting it in this thread to show that we are no longer above domestic assassinations to silence the opposition and that would include someone like Hastings.

Story:

http://whowhatwhy.com/2013/06/27/fbi-do ... necessary/


Would you be shocked to learn that the FBI apparently knew that some organization, perhaps even a law enforcement agency or private security outfit, had contingency plans to assassinate peaceful protestors in a major American city — and did nothing to intervene?

Would you be surprised to learn that this intelligence comes not from a shadowy whistle-blower but from the FBI itself – specifically, from a document obtained from Houston FBI office last December, as part of a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request filed by the Washington, DC-based Partnership for Civil Justice Fund?

To repeat: this comes from the FBI itself. The question, then, is: What did the FBI do about it?
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Re: Journalist Michael Hastings is dead at 33

Postby 8bitagent » Fri Jun 28, 2013 8:59 am

elfismiles » Thu Jun 27, 2013 11:59 am wrote:

Michael Hastings Told He Would Be Hunted Down and Killed over McChrystal Story


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5p7UkNTYB0o


Chilling. I know it's Alex Jones, but hearing what Hastings friend has to say is just nerve rattling
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Re: Journalist Michael Hastings is dead at 33

Postby bks » Fri Jun 28, 2013 12:58 pm

big props to you, Alchemy, for keeping this alive. Rest assured there are others of us working to highlight his death and the circumstances surrounding it, for what little it may do.

One small motto going forward: Hastings told young journalists that they should try to out a fact into every sentence they write. In that spirit, here is some other information about John Brennan:

--he served as chief of staff to former CIA Director George Tenet and was CIA station chief in Saudi Arabia before becoming deputy executive director of the agency during President George W. Bush’s first term. (This would make him a person of some interest in the pre-9/11 intelligence-gathering that centered on the Saudi hijackers, at minimum.)

--He was the first director of the National Counterterrorism Center in 2004-05.

--He was George Tenet's chief of staff and head of the CIA's Terrorist Threat Center when the CIA was videotaping the torture of 9/11 suspects

--He presided over the destruction of the CIA's interrogation tapes that became a scandal in the aftermath of the 911C's work.
http://www.911truth.org/article.php?sto ... 7151506117

--He made a surprise visit to Israel in May 2013 to meet with top IDF officials, according to one of those officials. (HuffPo)
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Re: Journalist Michael Hastings is dead at 33

Postby seemslikeadream » Fri Jun 28, 2013 1:09 pm

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Ten Questions to Ask John Brennan at his CIA Confirmation Hearing
by Medea Benjamin / February 5th, 2013

John Brennan’s confirmation hearing to become head of the CIA will take place at the Senate Intelligence Committee on Thursday, February 7. There is suddenly a flurry of attention around a white paper that lays out the administration’s legal justification for killing Americans with drones overseas, and some of the Senators are vowing to ask Brennan “tough questions,” since Brennan has been the mastermind of the lethal drone attacks. But why have the Senators, especially those on the Intelligence Committee who are supposed to exercise oversight of the CIA, waited until now to make public statements about their unease with the killing of Americans that took place back in September and October of 2011? For over a year human rights groups and activists have been trying, unsuccessfully, to get an answer as to why our government killed the 17-year-old American boy Abdulrahman al-Awlaki, and have had no help from the Senators’ offices.

We look forward to hearing the Senators question Brennan about the legal justifications used by the Obama administration to kill three Americans in Yemen, as we are deeply concerned about their deaths and the precedent it sets for the rights of US citizens.

But we are also concerned about the thousands of Pakistanis, Yeminis and Somalis who have been killed by remote control in nations with whom we are not at war. If CODEPINK had a chance to question John Brennan as his hearing on Thursday, here are some questions we would ask:

1.You have claimed that due to the precision of drone strikes, there have been only a handful of civilian casualties. How many civilians deaths have you recorded, and in what countries? What proportion of total casualties do those figures represent? How do you regard the sources such as the Bureau of Investigative Journalism that estimates drone casualties in Pakistan alone range from 2,629-3,461,with as many as 891 reported to be civilians and 176 reported to be children? Have you reviewed the photographic evidence of death and injury presented by residents of the drone strike areas? If so, what is your response?

2. According to a report in the New York Times, Washington counts all military-age males in a strike zone as combatants, unless there is explicit intelligence posthumously proving them innocent. Please tell us if this is indeed true, and if so, elaborate on the legal precedent for this categorization. In areas where the US is using drones, fighters do not wear uniforms and regularly intermingle with civilians. How does the CIA distinguish between legitimate and illegitimate targets?

3.In a June 2011 report to Congress, the Obama administration explained that drone attacks did not require congressional approval under the War Powers Resolution because drone attacks did not involve “sustained fighting,” “active exchanges of fire,” an involvement of US casualties, or a “serious threat” of such casualties. Is it your understanding that the initiation of lethal force overseas does not require congressional approval?

4. If the legal basis for the use of lethal drones is the 2001 Authorization for Use of Military Force (AUMF), can this authorization be extended to any country through Presidential authority? Are there any geographic limitations on the use of drone strikes? Does the intelligence community have the authority to carry out lethal drone strikes inside the United States? How do you respond to the charge that the US thinks it can send drones anywhere it wants and kill anyone it wants, all on the basis of secret information?

5. Assassination targets are selected using a “disposition matrix.” Please identify the criteria by which a person’s name is entered into the matrix. News reports have mentioned that teenagers have been included in this list. Is there an age criteria?

6. In Pakistan and perhaps elsewhere, the CIA has been authorized to conduct “signature strikes,” killing people on the basis of suspicious activity. What are the criteria for authorizing a signature strike? Do you think the CIA should continue to have the right to conduct such strikes? Do you think the CIA should be involved in drone strikes at all, or should this program be turned over to the military? If you think the CIA should return to its original focus on intelligence gathering, why hasn’t this happened? As Director of the CIA, will you discontinue the CIA’s use of lethal drones?

7. Article 51 of the U.N. Charter, which the US has implicitly invoked to justify strikes, requires that “measures taken by Members in the exercise of [their] right to self-defense . . . be immediately reported to the Security Council.” Please elaborate on why the United States uses Article 51 to justify drone strikes but ignores the clause demanding transparency.

8. The majority of prisoners incarcerated at Guantanamo Bay were found to be innocent and were released. These individuals landed in Guantanamo as victims of mistaken identity or as a result of bounties for their capture. How likely is it that the intelligence that gets a person killed by a drone strike may be as faulty as that which put innocent individuals in Guantanamo?

9. You have stated that there is little evidence drone strikes are causing widespread anti-American sentiment or recruits for extremist groups. Do you stand by this statement now, as we have seen an expansion of Al Qaeda in the Arab Peninsula, possibly triple the number that existed when the drone strikes began? Do you have concerns about the “blowback” caused by what General McChrystal has called a “visceral hatred” of U.S. drones?

10. If a civilian is harmed by a drone strike in Afghanistan, the family is entitled to compensation from US authorities. But this is not the case in other countries where the US government is using lethal drones. Why is this the case? Do you think the US government should help people who are innocent victims of our drone strikes and if so, why haven’t you put a program in place to do this?


Mazars and Deutsche Bank could have ended this nightmare before it started.
They could still get him out of office.
But instead, they want mass death.
Don’t forget that.
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Re: Journalist Michael Hastings is dead at 33

Postby Hunter » Fri Jun 28, 2013 1:58 pm

bks » Fri Jun 28, 2013 12:58 pm wrote:big props to you, Alchemy, for keeping this alive. Rest assured there are others of us working to highlight his death and the circumstances surrounding it, for what little it may do.

One small motto going forward: Hastings told young journalists that they should try to out a fact into every sentence they write. In that spirit, here is some other information about John Brennan:

--he served as chief of staff to former CIA Director George Tenet and was CIA station chief in Saudi Arabia before becoming deputy executive director of the agency during President George W. Bush’s first term. (This would make him a person of some interest in the pre-9/11 intelligence-gathering that centered on the Saudi hijackers, at minimum.)

--He was the first director of the National Counterterrorism Center in 2004-05.

--He was George Tenet's chief of staff and head of the CIA's Terrorist Threat Center when the CIA was videotaping the torture of 9/11 suspects
That is a great list and definitely something to work with and build on to see if in fact there is anything out there that MH stumbled on and which effectively spooked him and made him feel he needed to get this out to the rest of us.



--He presided over the destruction of the CIA's interrogation tapes that became a scandal in the aftermath of the 911C's work.
http://www.911truth.org/article.php?sto ... 7151506117

--He made a surprise visit to Israel in May 2013 to meet with top IDF officials, according to one of those officials. (HuffPo)
Great start and thanks for that. I wish I had more time to dedicate to this but life requires a good chunk of the time I have. But no matter I dont plan on letting this go anytime soon, this is a real slap in the face IMO, its overt in such a way that dont even seem to care that we see it so plainly. And yes, I hate saying they, them etc, but I have no idea who it is so that is the best I can do right now, it seems obvious to me, someone killed him though and those closest to him seem to think the same, that tells me something.
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Re: Journalist Michael Hastings is dead at 33

Postby nashvillebrook » Fri Jun 28, 2013 3:30 pm

My thoughts exactly, JR.


JackRiddler » 27 Jun 2013 18:22 wrote:Is everyone clear that in McChrystal we are talking about the de facto US commander of deathsquads in Iraq, a major war criminal on historic scale? Do you think one murder means anything to such a man? Obviously he was a very powerful man, with necessarily extensive personal connections, specifically in the field of professional murder. It's not the least far-fetched to think that car-hacking or conventional car tampering was employed as the means of assassinations ordered by this man in Iraq and Afghanistan. And he took what he "accomplished" in Iraq to Afghanistan as the overall campaign commander for the new death squad escalation there, known as the "surge." That's when Hastings's story in Rolling Stone made him switch to whatever gig he now has in the private sector. ("Ended his career" = "forced him to make a fortune as a consultant earlier than planned.") Where is he now?

This isn't enough to float a hypothesis and demand some answers? What the fuck would be?!

No one is pretending car hacking isn't feasible and, according to Clarke, it has been developed by multiple agencies.
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Re: Journalist Michael Hastings is dead at 33

Postby nashvillebrook » Fri Jun 28, 2013 3:44 pm

On the subject of John Brennan...check out the original WhoWhatWhat.com article for all the embedded links. Good stuff...forgive if it has already been posted. I'm behind in my RI reading.

http://whowhatwhy.com/2013/03/17/john-brennan-in-grad-school-destroying-democracy-helps-save-it/

We Had to Destroy Democracy to Save It
John Brennan In Grad School: Destroying Democracy Helps Save It


By Douglas Lucas on Mar 17, 2013



In 1980, a 25-year old graduate student at the University of Texas at Austin wrote a master’s thesis called “Human rights, a case study of Egypt.” In it, he argued that the aim of achieving and maintaining political stability justifies human rights violations by apprehensive governments— including crackdowns on unbridled journalists:

Since the press can play such an influential role in determining the perceptions of the masses, I am in favor of some degree of government censorship. Inflamatory [sic] articles can provoke mass opposition and possible violence.


Why should we care what a 25-year old grad student wrote over 30 years ago? Because that student grew up to be John Brennan—recently appointed director of the CIA. And because the theory he outlined in his master’s thesis seems to have shaped his attitude toward the exercise of power since then.

Four Months Make An Expert?

Brennan wrote the thesis, first made public by Charles C. Johnson, for an article in the Daily Caller (additional pages here), to earn a master’s degree in government with a concentration in Middle Eastern studies. The paper analyzed human rights in Egypt under the 1970s regime of Anwar Sadat — a regime Brennan experienced firsthand while studying at the American University in Cairo for four months (from September 1975 to January 1976).

Under Sadat, Egypt saw riots over the price of bread, a growing gap between the rich and the poor, high unemployment, widespread malnutrition, and other turmoil.

For the sake of stability, Brennan wrote, Sadat rightly introduced legislation to restrict assembly, strove to replace the judiciary in political trials with his own special prosecutor, and subjected the press to frequent, extensive censorship.

The powerful have long used emergencies or purported emergencies as excuses to seize power. In terms of Egypt’s dire conditions, Brennan wrote,

Sadat’s authoritarian approach to the democratic process has brought widespread criticism from his opponents. The motivation for this approach is obvious: in limiting personal liberties, Sadat has sought political order and stability in Egypt [...] Looking at the present policies of the Sadat administration, one gets the impression that democracy does not exist in Egypt. But if democracy is a process rather than a state, the democratic process may involve, at some point, the violation of personal liberties and procedural justice. Sadat’s undemocratic methods, therefore, may aim at the ultimate preservation of democracy rather than its demise.


We Had to Destroy Democracy to Save It

These Orwellian arguments should not be dismissed as the busywork of a college student hurrying to get a grade. The thesis is written in the same confident style —blunt sentences, few hedges — that he speaks with today. Back then, the graduate student clearly saw himself as a potential “decider,” like Sadat, tasked with picking whose human rights get violated in the purported best interest of “the State.”

A long career has made Brennan that decider.

There is some question as to when his career at the CIA really started. He tells a story that seems a little improbable: while riding a bus to Fordham University, where he earned a bachelor’s in political science between 1973 and 1977, he read “an ad in The New York Times and it said the CIA was looking for a few good people.” Overseas travel had aroused his wanderlust, he said, so he talked to a CIA recruiter.

A classmate of his from fourth grade to his undergraduate years recalls that Brennan spent the summer after freshman year with a cousin who worked for the Agency of International Development in Indonesia and that he visited Bahrain on the way home. Brennan was working at the US embassy in Indonesia and researching the politics of oil. “I wondered if he had even been recruited that early,” the classmate said. If true, Brennan would have written the thesis while a CIA recruit. It has also been speculated that the American University in Cairo is a site of CIA recruitment and training.

***

Regardless of his actual recruitment date, Brennan did start his official career at the CIA right out of college. He worked for the CIA for 25 years, including as an analyst, as station chief in Riyadh from 1996 to 1999, as the agency’s daily intelligence briefer to President Clinton, and as chief of staff for former CIA director George Tenet. WhoWhatWhy has previously examined the implications of Brennan’s Saudi connections.

While still at the CIA, he directed the Terrorist Threat Integration Center from 2003 to 2004—charged with integrating intelligence from the seventeen member agencies of the intelligence community on counterterrorism issues. The center became the National Counterterrorism Center (NCTC), where from 2004 to 2005 he was Interim Director.

Two months after he stepped down from the NCTC, The Analysis Corporation (TAC), which specializes in databases and is now named Sotera Defense Solutions, reportedly secured a lucrative deal to improve the NCTC terrorist watch-list. Like many defense contractor firms, TAC was based in McLean, Virginia, close by the CIA headquarters in Langley. Just one month later, in November 2005, Brennan conveniently followed the watch-list’s path to TAC, where he became president and CEO, making $760,000 a year.

His time in the government — including working in surveillance during the time of the post-9/11 illegal warrantless wiretapping program — was also marketable elsewhere in the private sector. Starting in April 2007 he spearheaded the private security industry as chairman of the Intelligence and National Security Alliance (INSA), earning $30,000 a year for an hour’s worth of work a week. INSA, representing 150 security corporations, describes itself as a “catalyst for public-private partnerships.”

“Certain Violations [of Human Rights] May Be Necessary”

In his master’s thesis, Brennan wrote that “absolute human rights do not exist” — “with the probable exception of the freedom from torture.” During his time at TAC, he left even that caveat behind, defending on television news the CIA’s use of enhanced interrogation techniques (except for waterboarding) as well as the Agency’s rendition program.

Brennan appears to have been influential in moving the early Obama administration to the right on security issues, and in protecting the permanent intelligence establishment from legal accountability. Interviewed in early 2008 about advising Senator Obama’s presidential campaign, he said that telecommunications companies should be granted immunity for their past participation in illegal warrantless wiretapping and that there should not be a “housecleaning” of intelligence. “Not just in terms of people, but also programs. You don’t want to create upheaval, because it will create a disruption in the system,” he said. “You don’t want to whipsaw the [intelligence] community. You don’t want to presume knowledge about how things fit together and why things are being done the way they are being done.”

When President Obama first proposed Brennan for CIA director in 2008, liberal anger at his public support for CIA torture led to Brennan withdrawing his name from consideration. Obama instead appointed him Assistant to the President for homeland security and counterterrorism, a post which did not require Senate confirmation and made him the Administration’s top counterterrorism official. He worked in a windowless room in the White House a few steps from the Situation Room, and met with Obama several times a day.

When the NCTC provoked controversy in 2011 with its database containing millions of records of U.S. citizens — casino-employee lists, flight records, the names of Americans hosting foreign-exchange students, and much more — Brennan seems to have been the one to decide to move forward with the program. Homeland Security privacy and civil liberties officials had raised concerns at the White House over new guidelines that allowed the NCTC to “mine” the database for possible criminal behavior, even without reason to suspect any wrongdoing by the Americans under surveillance. “Mr. Brennan considered the arguments,” the Wall Street Journal writes. “And within a few days, the attorney general, Eric Holder, had signed the new guidelines.”

As adviser to President Obama, Brennan often appeared at the nexus of intelligence and public relations. He was the chief source of the shifting, contradictory panoply of details about what actually happened in the raid on Osama bin Laden. The raid occurred in the afterglow of the royal wedding, and the press was all too ready to embrace his manipulations, as WhoWhatWhy previously reported.

In his years as counterterrorism czar, Brennan was the driving force behind the CIA’s drone program, in which unmanned aircraft, operating overseas but piloted remotely from the US, fire missiles at terrorist targets in Yemen, Pakistan, and elsewhere, often hitting civilians gathered in tribal councils, wedding parties, and other non-combatant assemblies. Sometimes these instances of “collateral damage” result from so-called “signature strikes,” in which a person whose name is unknown is targeted based entirely on the “signature” of his behavior patterns — in other words, killer drones sometimes target patterns, not people, but it is people (often the wrong ones) who get killed. It appears Brennan has been the last person to sign off on drone strikes before Obama gives the final go-ahead.

As the president’s top counterterrorism official, he took the targeting decisions for drone strikes and moved them deep into the White House, further shielding the process from public view. At the same time he orchestrated a propaganda campaign about the purported care that went into compiling “kill lists.”

Asked at the John Hopkins School of Advanced International Studies in June 2011 about targeted killings — a reference in this case to CIA drone strikes — he replied:

“In fact, I can say that the types of operations that the US has been involved in, in the counterterrorism realm, nearly for the past year, there hasn’t been a single collateral death because of the exceptional proficiency, precision of the capabilities we’ve been able to develop.”


This was an outright lie. The Bureau of Investigative Journalism, in an analysis of that past year, found that 116 CIA drone strikes in Pakistan alone resulted in at least 45 civilian deaths, six children among them. Given the difficulty in obtaining on-the-ground data, the Bureau says it is likely many more civilians died in additional strikes there.

Brennan’s office and the White House refused to respond to the Bureau’s findings. Further, the Obama administration categorizes any “military-age male” in the vicinity of a strike target as a combatant, thereby removing these victims from the official civilian casualty figures. While the carnage of the drone program serves as a recruiting tool for al-Qaeda (in Yemen, with the Predators and Reapers buzzing overhead for weeks on end, terrorists approach survivor families and offer a path for revenge), much of mainstream media has been content to portray Brennan as a civil-liberties-minded member of the administration pushing for reform, in laudatory profiles with such titles as “Hawk with a Heart.”

“Certain violations [of human rights] may be necessary in order to insure against violence and instability,” Brennan wrote in his master’s thesis. “Human rights, therefore, does [sic] not take precedence over all other political goals.”

Killing the Messenger

Journalists who take seriously the mission of a watchdog press have suffered retaliation at Brennan’s hands, according to an internal memo of the private intelligence firm Stratfor. (WikiLeaks began releasing internal Stratfor emails in February 2012; some were published for the first time in conjunction with a WhoWhatWhy article about General David Petraeus.)

A September 2010 Stratfor email with the subject line “Obama Leak Investigations (internal use only – pls do not forward)” focuses on Brennan’s work against the press. This memo, from Stratfor’s vice president for intelligence Fred Burton, went to the firm’s “secure” list for senior analysts discussing continental US matters. While Burton seems at times prone to hasty judgment and exaggeration, he has close connections to the national security powerbase from his long career in counterterrorism and intelligence.

The email reads in full:

Brennan is behind the witch hunts of investigative journalists learning information from inside the beltway sources. Note — There is specific tasker from the WH [White House] to go after anyone printing materials negative to the Obama agenda (oh my.) Even the FBI is shocked. The Wonder Boys must be in meltdown mode…”


The Obama administration has accelerated the George W. Bush-era war on whistleblowers and journalists, a fulfillment of the young Brennan’s call in his thesis for restraining the press to achieve national security aims.

Where is This Heading?

Today’s CIA is an increasingly paramilitary spy agency. Some Brennan apologists have said he favors moving “the bulk” of the Agency’s drone program to the Pentagon (which already has its own drone program), where it would supposedly be under tighter rein. The ramifications of such an inter-agency shuffle, even if it comes to pass, are nevertheless difficult to ascertain.

Brennan hasn’t had time to put his signature on the CIA, but reassurances about his devotion to the rule of law in the espionage jungle are hardly justified, given his career to date. And his early beliefs: as Brennan noted in his 1980 thesis, political stability is a need that “can provide a convenient excuse for any authoritarian leader in any country of the world.”

And Egypt? Near the conclusion of his thesis, Brennan made a bold prediction: “Paradoxically, Egypt appears to be heading in a direction that will eventually lead to an increase in human rights.”

Over thirty years later, Egypt has seen revolution and further turmoil. During the Arab Spring, in January 2011, President Hosni Mubarak blacked out the Internet almost entirely, an unprecedented act of censorship. And his vice president Omar Suleiman, a man who collaborated in torture with the CIA and whom the US once backed as a replacement for Mubarak, blamed journalists for encouraging dissent when pro-government forces assaulted them and burned down an Al-Jazeera facility.

Today, Egypt is in an official state of emergency, amid riots, factory closings, and strikes, including a possible bakers’ strike that could lead to bread riots like those in 1977. This reminds us that the stability promised by Brennan as the payoff for human rights violations just somehow never seems to come to fruition.
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Re: Journalist Michael Hastings is dead at 33

Postby slimmouse » Fri Jun 28, 2013 3:58 pm

How any true fucking journalist cannot be inflamed with anger about all of this.

I mean really, what can you say other than perhaps, "cmon guys, its time to face the music"?
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Re: Journalist Michael Hastings is dead at 33

Postby Nordic » Fri Jun 28, 2013 4:03 pm


here is some other information about John Brennan:

--he served as chief of staff to former CIA Director George Tenet and was CIA station chief in Saudi Arabia before becoming deputy executive director of the agency during President George W. Bush’s first term. (This would make him a person of some interest in the pre-9/11 intelligence-gathering that centered on the Saudi hijackers, at minimum.)

--He was the first director of the National Counterterrorism Center in 2004-05.

--He was George Tenet's chief of staff and head of the CIA's Terrorist Threat Center when the CIA was videotaping the torture of 9/11 suspects

--He presided over the destruction of the CIA's interrogation tapes that became a scandal in the aftermath of the 911C's work.
http://www.911truth.org/article.php?sto ... 7151506117

--He made a surprise visit to Israel in May 2013 to meet with top IDF officials, according to one of those officials. (HuffPo)



Now that places him right in the middle of things, doesn't it?

9/11. That's the key thing they want to keep covered up, and they'll do anything to keep it covered up.

Sure, it's speculative, but yes, somewhere out there is proof of the involvement of someone like Brennan insofar as what really happened on 9/11, and that HAS to remain buried. No matter what.

And guys like McChrystal, and Petreus. They know. They're all part of it. They are on the inside to THAT degree.
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Re: Journalist Michael Hastings is dead at 33

Postby Forgetting2 » Fri Jun 28, 2013 5:34 pm

Nordic » 28 Jun 2013 12:03 wrote:Now that places him right in the middle of things, doesn't it?

9/11. That's the key thing they want to keep covered up, and they'll do anything to keep it covered up.

Sure, it's speculative, but yes, somewhere out there is proof of the involvement of someone like Brennan insofar as what really happened on 9/11, and that HAS to remain buried. No matter what.

And guys like McChrystal, and Petreus. They know. They're all part of it. They are on the inside to THAT degree.


Hard not to have that in the back of ones mind.
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Re: Journalist Michael Hastings is dead at 33

Postby stillrobertpaulsen » Fri Jun 28, 2013 5:35 pm

Alchemy » Fri Jun 28, 2013 6:59 am wrote:I made contact with Russ Baker over at WhoWhatWhy and he said he is investigating the Hastings case, so that is a very promising development, Baker is very good at that sort of thing.

Speaking of which, I just saw this story over at his website, it is the story of a plot that the FBI knew about, to assassinate Occupy (OWS) members. If you guys think this deserves a thread of its own please go ahead and make one, I am posting it in this thread to show that we are no longer above domestic assassinations to silence the opposition and that would include someone like Hastings.

Story:

http://whowhatwhy.com/2013/06/27/fbi-do ... necessary/


Would you be shocked to learn that the FBI apparently knew that some organization, perhaps even a law enforcement agency or private security outfit, had contingency plans to assassinate peaceful protestors in a major American city — and did nothing to intervene?

Would you be surprised to learn that this intelligence comes not from a shadowy whistle-blower but from the FBI itself – specifically, from a document obtained from Houston FBI office last December, as part of a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request filed by the Washington, DC-based Partnership for Civil Justice Fund?

To repeat: this comes from the FBI itself. The question, then, is: What did the FBI do about it?


I commented on seemslikeadream's thread on the Occupy document before seeing it here. I think this is closer to the truth regarding How Conspiracies Really Work in these circumstances. It's not that "The Government Did It" (or whatever alphabet soup acronym you hate the most), as most Debunkers try to make it sound, this document proves where private companies are willing to intervene on behalf of the National Security State, the government just has to look the other way whistling.

Unless it's too huge to ignore, like JFK or 9/11, then they set up some panel of blue-ribbon bullshitters to say, "We're not looking the other way. We just don't see what your lying eyes do." But since they didn't bother to set up such a panel for Wellstone, I doubt they'll bother for Hastings.
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Re: Journalist Michael Hastings is dead at 33

Postby seemslikeadream » Fri Jun 28, 2013 5:49 pm

Mazars and Deutsche Bank could have ended this nightmare before it started.
They could still get him out of office.
But instead, they want mass death.
Don’t forget that.
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Re: Journalist Michael Hastings is dead at 33

Postby brekin » Fri Jun 28, 2013 9:21 pm

Looking over Hastings tweets from this month and this one caught my eye.

Michael Hastings ‏@mmhastings 9 Jun

Senator @RonWyden Do you think we need 2013 version of the Church Committee? Your comment in 140 character or less would be appreciated.
https://twitter.com/mmhastings


If Hastings was trying to gather 2013 equivalent Church Committee type material, and got some...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_Committee
The Church Committee was the United States Senate Select Committee to Study Governmental Operations with Respect to Intelligence Activities, a U.S. Senate committee chaired by Senator Frank Church (D-ID) in 1975. A precursor to the U.S. Senate Select Committee on Intelligence, the committee investigated intelligence gathering for illegality by the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), National Security Agency (NSA) and Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) after certain activities had been revealed by the Watergate affair.
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