‘Human sacrifice’ staged at CERN's Shiva Statue

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Re: ‘Human sacrifice’ staged at CERN's Shiva Statue

Postby OP ED » Sun Aug 28, 2016 7:12 pm

I'm actually paranoid about being too paranoid. Or perhaps about misdirected paranoia.

Fact is that I find a lot of the people who believe CERN are building a portal to hell to be much more terrifying than anything the scientists themselves have said or done.
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Re: ‘Human sacrifice’ staged at CERN's Shiva Statue

Postby norton ash » Sun Aug 28, 2016 7:13 pm

Know thyself.

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Re: ‘Human sacrifice’ staged at CERN's Shiva Statue

Postby OP ED » Sun Aug 28, 2016 7:17 pm

Elihu » Sun Aug 28, 2016 6:10 pm wrote:
I consider them to be what they purportedly are, that is nothing more than a consortium of experimental physicists.


nothing more
that is impossible


Technically yes. But that's hair splitting.

What I mean is that I haven't any evidence that the researchers themselves are pursuing inherently evil goals in their research or that they aren't attempting to act in good faith even with regards to the topic at hand.

All sorts of things are possible. They could all be hyper dimensional shape shifters secretly serving the devil and helping to maintain the illusion that keeps the masses from detecting that space is fake and that the world is flat, but this seems very unlikely.
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Re: ‘Human sacrifice’ staged at CERN's Shiva Statue

Postby MacCruiskeen » Sun Aug 28, 2016 7:20 pm

Thing about CERN is: What's their stock in trade? What's one of the things they're most famed for?

Precision. Extreme, unprecedented exactness. An almost superhuman attention to detail. The slightest imprecison in their calculations, in their observations, or in the manufacture of the instruments they use, would nullify their experimental results. They didn't get where they are today by being evasive, vague, wilfully misleading, lazily content with approximations, crap at communicating clearly, inattentive to detail, or (indeed) as thick as mince. That's not how you detect a Higgs boson.

Now take a close look at the "explanation" on their website, and at the further "clarification" they sent to Tom Siebert.*

They got a two-year-old to form those statements out of plasticine. "Ach, that'll do fine, it's good enough for the plebs."

* here, in the comments (second one down).
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Re: ‘Human sacrifice’ staged at CERN's Shiva Statue

Postby Elihu » Sun Aug 28, 2016 7:30 pm

norton ash » Sun Aug 28, 2016 7:13 pm wrote:Know thyself.

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Re: ‘Human sacrifice’ staged at CERN's Shiva Statue

Postby Elihu » Sun Aug 28, 2016 7:34 pm

Technically yes. But that's hair splitting.

What I mean is that I haven't any evidence that the researchers themselves are pursuing inherently
what i meant to say is, well now you have some.
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Re: ‘Human sacrifice’ staged at CERN's Shiva Statue

Postby dada » Sun Aug 28, 2016 8:03 pm

Fact is that I find a lot of the people who believe CERN are building a portal to hell to be much more terrifying than anything the scientists themselves have said or done.


I wonder if hell is misunderstood.

"The fundamental premise of brane (short for membrane) cosmology is that our four-dimensional space-time may be only one of many (normally) disconnected universes. These universes coexist simultaneously within a higher dimensional space often called the bulk. Together all the parallel universes along with the bulk form what has been called the multiverse. The idea that there may be multiple universes coexisting simultaneously has been used frequently in science fiction, though the concept of multiple universes and multiple realities goes back much further and can even be found in ancient Hindu writings... The interstitial space between galaxies - again, what cosmologists call "the bulk" is [in some cases] referred to as simply "The Void," though other cultures called it "The Howling" or "Hell."" - Kevin R. Grazier, Ph.D., 'Cosmic Origami' (from the collection of essays, 'The Science of Dune, An Unauthorized Exploration into the Real Science behind Frank Herbert's Fictional Universe)

Dr. Kevin Grazier holds the duel titles of Investigation Scientist and Science Planning Engineer for the Cassini/Huygens Mission to Saturn and Titan at NASA’s Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena, CA. He earned B.S. degrees in computer science and geology from Purdue University, and a B.S. in physics from Oakland University. He earned his M.S. in physics from Purdue, and then went to UCLA for his doctoral research in planetary physics. At JPL he has written mission planning and analysis software that won numerous JPL- and NASA-wide awards. Dr. Grazier still continues research involving computer simulations of Solar System dynamics, evolution, and chaos.
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Re: ‘Human sacrifice’ staged at CERN's Shiva Statue

Postby Burnt Hill » Sun Aug 28, 2016 8:07 pm

Elihu wrote:
Technically yes. But that's hair splitting.

What I mean is that I haven't any evidence that the researchers themselves are pursuing inherently
what i meant to say is, well now you have some.


A perfect example of how the attention given the act has empowered it.
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Re: ‘Human sacrifice’ staged at CERN's Shiva Statue

Postby Burnt Hill » Sun Aug 28, 2016 8:18 pm

I also have a hard time thinking of this video - uploaded to youtube - as having been "leaked".
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Re: ‘Human sacrifice’ staged at CERN's Shiva Statue

Postby Nordic » Sun Aug 28, 2016 8:26 pm

Burnt Hill » Sun Aug 28, 2016 7:18 pm wrote:I also have a hard time thinking of this video - uploaded to youtube - as having been "leaked".


Yeah it's kind of Blair Witchy.
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Re: ‘Human sacrifice’ staged at CERN's Shiva Statue

Postby OP ED » Sun Aug 28, 2016 8:32 pm

Who originally described it as being "leaked"?
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Re: ‘Human sacrifice’ staged at CERN's Shiva Statue

Postby Burnt Hill » Sun Aug 28, 2016 8:45 pm

stickdog99 » Sun Aug 28, 2016 12:51 pm wrote:
mentalgongfu2 » 28 Aug 2016 14:12 wrote:
[.I guess I forgot that the scene of the crime was a place that we should all inherently trust./quote]

What bloody crime? The one you are compelled to imagine unless CERN states explicitly "no one was murdered on our premises?"


What again does the leaked video depict? I do not think I imagined it..


I don't know that the idea of it being a "leaked" video originated here (I am pretty sure it was suggested earlier), this is what spurred my comment though.
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Re: ‘Human sacrifice’ staged at CERN's Shiva Statue

Postby Elihu » Sun Aug 28, 2016 9:09 pm

[quote perfect example of how the attention given the act has empowered it.[/quote]
No a perfect example of a ripoff. Send the tax money back and we'll call it even.
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Re: ‘Human sacrifice’ staged at CERN's Shiva Statue

Postby Burnt Hill » Sun Aug 28, 2016 9:21 pm

Elihu » Sun Aug 28, 2016 9:09 pm wrote:
perfect example of how the attention given the act has empowered it.

No a perfect example of a ripoff. Send the tax money back and we'll call it even.


Fair enough!
Though technically I would guess it was done on free time.
I do see it as time wasted on a hoax and reject it as an attempt to conjure evil.
Both as a phenomenon and personally.
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Re: ‘Human sacrifice’ staged at CERN's Shiva Statue

Postby guruilla » Sun Aug 28, 2016 10:21 pm

OP ED » Sun Aug 28, 2016 7:12 pm wrote:I'm actually paranoid about being too paranoid. Or perhaps about misdirected paranoia.

Fact is that I find a lot of the people who believe CERN are building a portal to hell to be much more terrifying than anything the scientists themselves have said or done.

Assuming the rumors weren't started by CERN scientists, which I wouldn't.

As for
OP ED wrote:I haven't any evidence that the researchers themselves are pursuing inherently evil goals in their research or that they aren't attempting to act in good faith even with regards to the topic at hand.

Two words: human unconscious. No one, but no one, pursues inherently evil goals in their own mind. ("Evil be thou my good," etc.)
It is a lot easier to fool people than show them how they have been fooled.
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