Alien Abductions and the Monarch Project

[11:11]

I'll read through it, DE.

[Joe Hillshoist]

11:11 Re the blackfellas, or aboriginal australians - what I have leardned about them comes from one on one talks with elders, initiated men (WOmens business is not discussed by males in those cultures.) and from serious study of the witings of dead fellas like Big Bill Neidjie. A Gagudju (Kakadu) man from that part of the world. And others.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Bill_Neidjie Thats a start but his own writings are far better. And he's not the only one.

Not to mention some rather esoteric teachers, hence the importance of that aspect of reality to the culture.

Tho anyone can say anything online and there is little way of proving what I say. If I can find some of the old uni papers I wrote I might typoe them out (Handwritten ones that is), there might be some on a disk somewhere, but I wouldn't count on it.

I think the manipulation of the esoteric or occult side is a part of MC that is probably useless in terms of gaining a conviction, and as DE said
Therefore, any spirituality that suggests that the world is run (and by extension, SHOULD be run) by an elite core of spiritual adepts who, either by membership in a "spiritual brotherhood" or by access to "spiritual technology", is going to be a preferred religion to one that suggests we are all equal in God's eyes.

But I think it exists and is used. Pointless to dwell on it tho. Any esoteric knowledge that lot have is probably not worth the damage it could do to your soul or spirit. If you are into that stuff find your own way.

I don't think understanding their cult roots and beliefs is as important as recognizing that it's there, as a means of identifying them as dangerous.

Good call that.

Calculating cold blooded killers, territorial hoarders.......the ultimate Reptillians - except that they are a clearly sophisticated variety of the species. Anyone see those traits in MC perps ????????

But of course, none of this is obvious to certain "intellectuals" on this board. So they pour scorn upon the "Ancient bloodlines" themes

I come from an ancient bloodline, there is a book somewhere in India that all the males in my family have to sign, (probably in blood ) that stretches back long before Christ. BFD That has nothing to do with control cept via the sus ugliness that Brahmin culture and the caste system have in spades.

DE hits the nail on the head again:

So, are various elites in a longrunning conspiracy to take over the world? Well, they are elites..they already run the world. But they are elites and elites like to feel...well elite. Therefore, any spirituality that suggests that the world is run (and by extension, SHOULD be run)

Elitism and social prestige are always heavily tied to the justification that its ok to screw the less powerful for whatever reason.

As for the reptillian bit... well reptiles are cold blooded and to quote some US columnist who can't sleep well:

"A gangster is a reptillian force utterly lacking in the quality of mercy."

As a metaphor the reptillian thing works qwuite well without adding the belif system that it true, until I see, or see a credible vid of an actual shapeshift, or a rerun of that old TV series V in the sky outside, I would have to say the metaphor is good, but confusing it with reality might not help you achieve anything practical.

Ultimately people are responsible for their actions and those in power take that responsibilty however they care little for the consequences of their actions on others.

And we can all see the fourth reich, some have been watching it in horror for over a decade.

But in that sense there is a more insidious form of mind control. Its the "social narcotic that is injected into the minds ..." The idea that people are bastards at heart and will strive to screw everyone else to get their piece of the pie, that a powerful form of MC, perhaps the most powerful. The idea that the state is inherently worthy, and deserves our respect, not our grudging tolerence. The idea that some people are better than others - that american idea that the poor deserve their fate. that socialism is somehow evil. WTDF is real socialism anyway?

11:11 said

I'm not a socialist, for one, and he is.

Referring to laRouche, but personally I think you have that round the wrong way (Not that I know you or have any idea of what you think cept from your posts, so pardon the gross assumptions.) LaRouche is far from a socialist tho. More MC.

Wanna know what real socialists are like?

Check out these people:

http://www.seedstar.net/undeep/diggers.html

[11:11]

Any esoteric knowledge that lot have is probably not worth the damage it could do to your soul or spirit. If you are into that stuff find your own way.


I'm an initiate of an Indian path, actually, Surat Shabd Yoga. It eshews all ritual, ceremomy, seeking of powers, etc., emphasising meditation as a means to knowing the true self. The main goal is non violence in thought, word and deed. I'm a slacker, though, and don't do much meditation. I did become vegetarian as a result, though, and consider that the most important thing I've ever done. Mainly, I subscribe to the ideas brought forth in the "Seth" books (do you know them?). It's the "you create your own reality" line of thinking, or thoughts create reality.


I'll try to look at the aboriginie stuff. I don't know much about them. I saw the Last Wave, lol, and I like thier art. I would imagine there are similarities with native American tribes. That was interesting what you said about totem animals. Anything that results in NOT killing animals works for me


The Abrahamic religions, and their gods and satan, all give me the creeps. It permeates the whole mind control thing, along with the other weirdo cult stuff. In mind control and alien abduction, there seems to be a serious undercurrent of satanic ritual abuse. Seems like these religions and their satan are the real source of the misery.

[11:11]

I've just started reading your RI thread on La Rouche, DE, and I noticed this:

The LaRouche organization has "taken on the characteristics more of a political cult than a political party," said a March report by Information Digest, a biweekly publication written by journalist John Rees. LaRouche's followers have "afforded him blind obedience," wrote Rees, a longtime specialist in LaRouche.



In the EIR link that I posted there is a John Rawlings Rees of Tavistock. Is this just a coinkydink, or are the two related? A quick Google on Rees the journo, turns up this:

John Rees was active during the 1980s as a right-wing journalist and private intelligence operative. Among the publications he was associated with are Review of the News and American Opinion, published by the John Birch Society, and his own Information Digest. In addition, he collaborated with the Birch Society's late Congressman Larry McDonald in the activities of the Western Goals Foundation.

And this:

By Chip Berlet
Political Research Associates
9/8/2000 (Revision 2)

The Maldon Institute is a right wing think tank that studies national security and terrorism from a countersubversive and often conspiracist perspective. Maldon's director, John Rees, infiltrated the political left in the 1970s, and passed the information to groups ranging from the John Birch Society to the FBI.


I think that Chip Berlet is suspect, himself, so here's the Google stuff -

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=In ... gle+Search


Maybe I should put this in the La Rouche thread. I have to finish your post though, before following any of this. Just trying show that there could be some agenda by those painting La Rouche as a conspiracy nut.

[Trifecta]

Total Population Control

http://www.bariumblues.com/em_mind%20control.htm

An overview of the ELF, GWEN towers, and HAARP inter-connection.

By Nicholas Jones From http://educate-yourself.org/mc/mctotalc ... ul02.shtml

Earth is wrapped in a donut shaped magnetic field. Circular lines of magnetic flux continuously descend into the North Pole and emerge from the South Pole. The Ionosphere, an electromagnetic-wave conductor, 100 kilometers [62 miles] above the earth, consists of a layer of electrically charged particles acting as a shield from solar winds.

Earth Resonant Frequency
Natural waves are created which result from electrical activity in the atmosphere. They are thought to be caused by multiple lightning storms. Collectively, these waves are called 'The Schumann Resonance', with the strongest current registering at 7.8 Hz. These are quasi-standing [scalar], extremely low frequency (ELF) waves that naturally exist in the earth's electromagnetic cavity which is the space between ground and the Ionosphere. These 'earth brainwaves' are identical to the frequency spectrum of our human brainwaves.

[Frequency nomenclature: 1 hertz = 1 cycle per second, 1 Khz = 1000cps, 1 Mhz =1 million cps. Wavelength: A 1 Hertz wave has a wavelength that is 186,000 miles long, A 10 Hz wave is 18,600 miles long, etc. Radio-waves move at the speed of light (186,000 miles per second)]

HAARP
The Creator designed living beings to resonate to the11 natural Schumann Resonance frequency pulsation in order to evolve harmoniously. The Ionosphere is being manipulated by US government scientists using the Alaskan transmitter called HAARP, (High-Frequency Active Auroral Research Program) which sends focused radiated power to heat up sections of the Ionosphere, which bounces power down again. ELF waves produced from HAARP, when targeted on selected areas, can weather-engineer and create mood changes affecting millions of people. The intended wattage is 1,700 billion watts of power.

Geomagnetic Waves & GWEN
Sixty four elements in the ground modulate, with variation, the geomagnetic waves naturally coming from the ground. The earth's natural 'brain rhythm' above is balanced with these. These are the same minerals found in red blood corpuscles. There is a relation between the blood and geomagnetic waves. An imbalance between Schumann and geomagnetic waves disrupts these biorhythms. These natural geomagnetic waves are being replaced by artificially created low frequency (LF) ground waves coming from GWEN Towers.

GWEN (Ground Wave Emergency Network) transmitters placed 200 miles apart across the USA allow specific frequencies to be tailored to the geomagnetic-field strength in each area, allowing the magnetic field to be altered. They operate in the LF range, with transmissions between LF 150 and 175 KHz. They also emit waves from the upper VHF to the lower UHF range of 225 - 400 MHz. The LF signals travel by waves that hug the ground rather than radiating into the atmosphere. A GWEN station transmits in a 360 degree circle up to 300 miles, the signal dropping off sharply with distance. The entire GWEN system consists of, (depending on source of data), from 58 to an intended 300 transmitters spread across the USA, each with a tower 299-500 ft high. 300 ft copper wires in spoke-like fashion fan out from the base of the system underground, interacting with the earth, like a thin shelled conductor, radiating radio wave energy for very long distances through the ground.

The United States is bathed in this magnetic field which can rise from ground up to 500 ft, but goes down into basements, so everyone can be affected and mind-controlled. The entire artificial ground-wave spreads out over the whole of the USA like a web. It is easier to mind-control and hypnotize people who are bathed in an artificial electromagnetic-wave.

GWEN transmitters have many different functions including:

1. controlling the weather,
2. mind control,
3. behavior and mood control, and
4. sending synthetic-telepathy as infrasound to victims with US government mind-control implants.

GWEN works in conjunction with HAARP and the Russian Woodpecker transmitter, which is similar to HAARP. The Russians openly market a small version of their weather-engineering system called Elate, which can fine-tune weather patterns over a 200 mile area and have the same range as the GWEN unit. An Elate system operates at Moscow airport. The GWEN towers shoot enormous bursts of energy into the atmosphere in conjuction with HAARP. The website www.cuttingedge.org wrote an expose of how the major floods of the Mid-West USA occurred in 1993.

Atmospheric Vapor Rivers
Enormous, invisible rivers of water, consisting of vapors that flow, move towards the poles in the lower atmosphere. They rival the flow of the Amazon River and are 420 to 480 miles wide and up to 4,800 miles long. They are 1.9 miles above the earth and contain a volume of water equivalent to 340 lbs of water per second. There are 5 atmospheric rivers in each Hemisphere. A massive flood can be created by damming up one of these massive vapor rivers, causing huge amounts of rainfall to be dumped. The GWEN Towers positioned along the areas north of the Missouri and Mississippi Rivers were turned on for 40 days and 40 nights, probably mocking the Flood of Genesis. (This was in conjunction with HAARP, that creates a river of electricity flowing thousands of miles through the sky and down to the polar ice-cap, manipulating the jet-stream , like the Russian Woodpecker.) These rivers flooded, causing agricultural losses of $12-15 billion. HAARP produces earthquakes by focusing energy along fault lines. GWEN Towers are located on the fault lines and volcanic areas of the Pacific Northeast.

In 1963, Dr Robert Beck explored effects of external magnetic-fields on brainwaves showing a relationship between psychiatric admissions and solar magnetic storms. He exposed volunteers to pulsed magnetic-fields similar to magnetic-storms, and found a similar response. US 60 Hz electric power ELF waves vibrate at the same frequency as the human brain. UK 50 Hz electricity emissions depress the thyroid gland.

Human Vulnerability
Dr Andrija Puharich in the 50's/60's, found that clairvoyant's brainwaves became 8 Hz when their psychic powers were operative. He saw an Indian Yogi in 1956 controlling his brainwaves, deliberately shifting his consciousness from one level to another. Puharich trained people with bio-feedback to do this consciously, making 8 Hz waves. A healer made 8 Hz waves pass into a patient, healing their heart trouble, her brain emitting 8 Hz . One person emitting a certain frequency can make another also resonate to the same frequency. Our brains are extremely vulnerable to any technology which sends out ELF waves, because they immediately start resonating to the outside signal by a kind of tuning-fork effect. Puharich experimented discovering that

A) 7.83 Hz (earth's pulse rate) made a person feel good, producing an altered-state.
B) 10.80 Hz causes riotious behaviour and
C) 6.6 Hz causes depression.

Puharich made ELF waves change RNA and DNA, breaking hydrogen bonds to make a person have a higher vibratory rate. He wanted to go beyond the psychic 8 Hz brainwave and attract psi phenomena. James Hurtak, who once worked for Puharich, also wrote in his book The Keys of Enoch that ultra-violet caused hydrogen bonds to break and this raised the vibratory rate.

Puharich presented the mental effects of ELF waves to military leaders, but they would not believe him. He gave this information to certain dignitaries of other Western nations. The US government burned down his home in New York to shut him up and he fled to Mexico. However, the Russians discovered which ELF frequencies did what to the human brain and began zapping the US Embassy in Moscow on 4 July 1976 with electromagnetic-waves, varying the signal, including focusing on 10 Hz. (10 Hz puts people into a hypnotic state. Russians and North Koreans use this in portable mind-control machines to extract confessions. A machine was even found in an American church to help the congregation believe!) The Russian "Woodpecker" signal was traveling across the world from a transmitter near Kiev. The US Air Force identified 5 different frequencies in this compound harmonic Woodpecker signal that was sending signals through the earth and the atmosphere.

Nikola Tesla revealed in 1901 power could be transmitted through the ground using ELF waves. Nothing stops or weakens these signals. The Russians retrieved Tesla's papers when they were finally returned to Yugoslavia after his death.

Puharich continued to monitor the Russian ELF wave signal while in Mexico and the higher harmonics produced in the MHz range (5.340 MHz). He met the CIA and started working for them. He and Dr. Robert Beck designed equipment to measure these waves and their effect on the human brain. Puharich started his work by putting dogs to sleep. By 1948/49 he graduated to monkeys, deliberately destroying their eardrums to enable them to pick up sounds without the eardrum intact. He discovered a nerve in the tongue could be used to facilitate hearing. He created the dental tooth implant which mind-control victims are now claiming was surreptitiously placed in their mouth by controlled dentists causing them to hear 'voices in their head.' The implant was placed under dental caps or lodged in the jaw.

Vaccine Implants
Implants are now smaller than a hair's width and are injected with vaccine and flu shots. Millions have had this done unknowingly. These 'biochips' circulate in the bloodstream and lodge in the brain, enabling the victims to hear 'voices' via the implant. There are many kinds of implants now and 1 in 40 are victims from 'alien abduction' statistics, though 1 in 20 has also been gauged. The fake alien abduction event, revealed to be actually the work of US military personnel using technology to make hologram spaceships outside, virtual reality scenarios of going onto a spaceship with humans in costumes, has been astutely perceived. Though real alien abductions do occur, the 'alien abduction' scenario has been useful to stop any further investigation or accountability of government authorities by poor victims who would face mockery and appear silly.

Are we being forced to respond to an artificially induced vibratory rate by global masters who want this planet to have a sudden leap in evolution, populated by the psychically aware and therefore a superior class of humans or is the agenda designed to eliminate billions of people who are 'useless eaters', deceptively being disposed by electro magnetically-induced cancers and diseases?

Electromagnetic Disease Transmission, ELF, & Chemtrails
The physics and engineering behind electromagnetic disease transmission are frightening. Diseases can be reproduced as 'disease signatures' in that the vibration of a disease can be manufactured and sent on to be induced. (The brainwave pattern of hallucinogenic drugs can also be copied and sent by ELF waves to induce 'visions'.) Once diseases are sprayed in the air, electromagnetic-waves attuned to the disease, using harmonics and subharmonics, will make them more lethal and infectious by sending particular disease frequency death-patterns.

Chemtrails are being sprayed daily all over USA (and other countries too) in a white crisscross pattern. They contain diseases and chemicals which affect our state of consciousness. They can produce apathy which works in conjuction with fluoridation of the water, as well as aspartame and drugs. Fluoride disables the willpower section of the brain, impairing the left occipital lobe.

Fluoride and selenium enable people to 'hear voices'. ELF waves create disturbances in the biological processes of the body and these can be activated in the population once the diseases are introduced into the body from the chemtrails.

Some chemtrails have been analyzed and shown to be creating cleavages in spacial perceptions, blocking the interaction of various amino-acids that relate to higher-consciousness and to increase dopamine in the brain producing a listless, spaced-out state of lower reactive mind.

Basically, the goal is to fog the difference between the real and unreal and some of this could be connected with the many UFO abductions occurring en-mass. Hundreds have been witnessed laid out on tables and implanted. Intelligence agencies are in league with each other behind this disablement of the masses to such a point that they can't even fight back. In order for the perpetrators to do what they want, they need the overall 'frequency' of each victim to function at a specific rate below the threshold of awareness.

Could this be part of a greater plan with mind-control transmitters covering the whole of USA and England, cleverly disguised as cell phone towers and trees? The power from microwave towers may be turned up to such a level that people can die.

A brain functioning at beta-level (above 13 Hz) is agitated and can't change its perceptions, if it is artificially maintained by technology to that frequency. This may increase body electricity in others, giving them psychic powers. Is this linked to the New-Agers claim of a rising 12-14 Hz Schumann Resonance, inching us towards the 4th dimension? Stimulants ingested globally from caffeine genetically-modified plants, may also produce an impact on the 'global-brain' in the ionosphere collecting our brainwaves. New-age channellers say we are going into 4th dimensional frequency. They 'heard' the voice of some 'ET' who told them.

However, some 'ETs' may be local boys. Voices in the head were produced in prisoners in Utah prisons using Tesla technology. Each of the prisoners received the same message from an 'ET'. Today, it seems, it's easy to produce 'voices in the head' without implants.

A prisoner called David Fratus in Draper Prison, Utah in 1988 wrote:

"I began to receive, or hear, high-frequency tones in my ears. When I plug my ears..the tones are still inside and become amplified. It's as if they had become electrified echo chambers with the sounds coming from the inside out..I began to hear voices..into my inner ears as vivid as though I were listening to a set of stereo headphones..with the end result being that I am now having my brain monitored by an omnipotent computerized mind reading or scanning machine of some sort "

Hundreds of inmates at the Gunnison Facility of the Utah State Prison, and the State Hospital were subject to this brand of mind-control in order to test it. In the early 1970s, this was brought out in the Utah U.S. District Court, because inmates who had been subjected to this Tesla-wave mind-control in prison had tried unsuccessfully to fight back in court. The University of Utah researched how Tesla-waves could be used to manipulate the mind into hearing voices, overriding and implanting thoughts into the mind, and reading the thoughts, as well as developing eye-implants.

Tracking
Cray computers, using artificial-intelligence, monitor the victims of government implants sending pre-recorded sound-bytes or occasional live messages. They are picked up by satellite and relayed to whatever large TV broadcasting antenna, GWEN tower or other microwave antenna is near the victim. It's believed that some type of body implants pick up the signal and broadcast the correct Tesla-wave pattern to create voices within the victim.

The tracking implant keeps the staff and the satellite system informed every few minutes as to exactly where to send the voice signals. The master computer and central HQ for this is reported to be in Boulder, CO. It is thought that transponders are being made there as well. The central cellular computer is in the Boulder, CO National Bureau of Standards building. AT&T is also cooperating in this project. Several government agencies work together on this.

Tim Rifat of UK wrote that

"this inter-cerebral hearing is used to drive the victim mad, as no one else can hear the voices transmitted into the brain of the target. Transmission of auditory data directly into the target's brains using microwave carrier beams is now common practice. Instead of using excitation potentials, one uses a transducer to modify the spoken word into ELF audiograms, that are then superimposed on a pulse modulated microwave beam."

The Sydney Morning Herald on 21 March 1983 published an article by Dr Nassim Abd El-Aziz Neweigy, Assistant Professor in the Faculty of Agriculture, Moshtohor Tukh-Kalubia, Egypt. It stated:

"Russian satellites, controlled by advanced computers, can send voices in one's own language interweaving into natural thoughts to the population of choice to form diffused artificial thought. The chemistry and electricity of the human brain can be manipulated by satellite and even suicide can be induced. Through ferocious anti-humanitarian means, the extremist groups are fabricated, the troubles and bloody disturbances are instigated by advanced tele-means via Russian satellites, in many countries in Asia, Africa, Europe and Latin America."

Another source says that these have been fed with the world's languages and synthetic telepathy will reach into people's heads making people believe God is speaking to them personally to enact the Second Coming, complete with holograms! The Russians broke the genetic code of the human brain. They worked out 23 EEG band-wave lengths, 11 of which were totally independent. So if you can manipulate those 11, you can do anything.

NSA Cray computers can remotely track people just knowing the specific EMF waves (evoked potentials from EEGs in the 30-50 Hz, 5 milliwatt range) of a person's bioelectric-field. Each person's emissions are unique and they can remotely track someone in public.

Maxwell's 'Hidden' Etheric Component
Evoked-potentials officially don't exist in physics, but in 1873 a Scotsman, James Clerk Maxwell, discovered electromagnetic waves have 3 components:

He discovered waveforms which exist at a certain number of right-angled rotations away from the electromagnetic-field. These are hyperspacial components, not subject to constraints of time and space. He claimed that electromagnetic-radiation waves were carried by the ether and the ether was disturbed by magnetic lines of force. The hidden component is called only 'potential' now and not normally used except for covert hyperdimensional physics and to manipulate consciousness itself via electromagnetic-waves covering vast areas of the planet.

Approx. one person in 3000 is naturally sensitive to this magnetic-waveform component, the telepathic types (according to a writer called "Majix"), but we are all capable of tuning into this magnetic component by tuning our subconscious to it. Maxwell's successors thought potentials were akin to mysticism, because they believed fields contain mass which cannot be created from apparently nothing, which is what potentials are, both literally and mathematically - they are an accumulation or reservoir of energy; but this hasn't been taught in mainstream physics.

Thought Control
Subliminal words in the correct electromagnetic-field that expresses human consciousness, attuned to the human brain, can enter our minds at a subconscious level. Our brain activity patterns can apparently be measured and stored on computer by super-computers. If a victim needs subliminal-thoughts implanted, all that is necessary is to capture, save on computer, and target the person's brainwave pattern to send them such low frequency subliminal-messages that they actually think it is their own thoughts [confirmed by Al Bielek and Preston Nichols with the Montauk Project in Long Island]. The researcher Majix says our brains are so sensitive that they are like liquid-crystal in response to the magnetic component of the earth.

We are sensitive to earth's magnetic changes, changes in the ionospheric cavity and re-resonate those frequencies ourselves. We are incredibly complex, beyond comprehension and a type of biocosmic transducer. He adds:

"Physicists in Russia correlate the mean annual magnetic-activity, electro-magnetic and electro-static fields on human behavior and medical indications.They are similar to biorhythms.These magnetic frequencies can be manipulated. Our brain waves can mimic magnetic frequencies from very simple equipment at extremely low power levels. From half a second to 4 seconds later, the neurons and brainwaves are driven exclusively by the device, with power levels almost nonexistent. All one needs is a circularly polarized antenna aimed up at the ionospheric cavity and they can manipulate the moods of everyone within a 75 sq. mile area. The body picks up these "new" manipulated waves and begins to correspond immediately. "Sleep" frequency will make everyone become tired and sleep."

In 1967, an "internationally renowned scientist" and Christopher Hills, a pendulum expert, communicated with some ETs. (It is not known who the scientist was, but at one time both Hills and Puharich were with the medium Eileen Garrett at a time when Puharich was communicating with ETs.)

In short, ETs communicated with us via modulated radio-waves, between 10,000 and 20,000 cycles below the known electromagnetic-spectrum. In the carrier-wave by amplitude modulation, mixed with frequency modulation. Single band energy, transmission power less than 25 watts. A naturally present wave on earth, the brain modulated - a wave that resonates between the earth and the ionosphere. All humans influence the ionosphere in this manner. A reflecting technique is involved. The brain modulation consisted of pulses, akin to those known from neuro pulses. Two humans can use this. It's related to something akin to low frequency radar and to ultrasonic techniques, but qualified. A mixed electro-acoustic wave function. The electromagnetic-wave induced an ultrasonic transduction in human tissue. The brain radiation has a sonic component to it as well as an electromagnetic component. Electromagnetic-radiation has a sonic component and it's dependent on the medium through which it travels.

The scientist cut through months of work. Now HAARP is slicing up the ionosphere, the world-brain, like a microwave knife, producing long tear incisions destroying the membrane which holds the reservoir of data accumulated by all earth's history. A healer called Mr. "A" claimed to receive "Ancient Wisdom" from this protective Magnetic-Ring of energy which stores within it all knowledge since time began. Ruth Mongomery wrote about him in Born To Heal.

He claimed that if our energy flow is cut off from this magnetic-field, the Universal-Supply is obstructed and we are no longer in tune and start to get sick. The Power from this travels in split-seconds around the world and is available to anyone who is capable of receiving it and handling it. The waves from The Ring automatically translated into words in his mind, as wisdom to diagnose and heal others, coming from the storehouse of knowledge here since the beginning of time. He produced instant miracles, knitting broken bones and removing arthritis. A photo caught forked lightning coming from his fingers.

In Let's Talk MONTAUK, Joyce Murphy shows that experiments on the 410-420 MHz cycle have been done which could affect the"window frequency to the human consciousness" as a whole:

"He (Preston Nichols) used his..radio equipment to learn that whenever a 410-420 MHz signal appeared on the air, the psychic's minds would be "jammed." Tracing the signal to Montauk Point and the red and white radar antenna on the Air Force Base.."

In Encounter in the Pleiades by Peter Moon and Preston Nichols, http://www.time-travel.com/skybooks/ Preston wrote that:

"Dr. Nicholas Begich has picked up 435 MHz signals connected to HAARP and that a mind control function is being employed. He says that 400-450 MHz is the window to human consciousness because it is our reality's background frequency."

Tim Rifat wrote in his Microwave Mind Control in the UK article http://www.brazilboycott.org/ that cellular phones use 435 MHz. UK police use 450 MHz exclusively. Dr. Ross Adey used this for CIA behavioral modification experiments. Police have a vast array of antennae to broadcast this frequency all over the UK. Adey used 0.75mW/cm2 intensity of pulse modulate microwave at a frequency of 450 MHz, with an ELF modulation to control all aspects of human behavior. 450 MHZ radar modulated at 60 Hz greatly reduced T-lymphocyte activity to kill cultured cancer cells. A study of USA 60 Hz power lines repeated this finding.

[Joe Hillshoist]

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The Abrahamic religions, and their gods and satan, all give me the creeps. It permeates the whole mind control thing, along with the other weirdo cult stuff. In mind control and alien abduction, there seems to be a serious undercurrent of satanic ritual abuse. Seems like these religions and their satan are the real source of the misery.

Its weird that one...

I like Wombats take, on his Brainsturbator article "Your fear is all they have":

http://www.brainsturbator.com/site/comments/your_fear_is_all_they_have/

Basically, whether satan exists or not the real danger is what the followers do in the name of whatever they believe. I dunno about the religions themselves tho, cos I know some v tolerant and really beautiful Christians and Jews. That thing about personal power might be the crux, and that Yoga school might well be ontot something by rejecting the gaining of power. That school/path sounds familiar actually, tho i have trouble remembering any oif the names associated with that stuff. There are so many. Apparantly our "family guru" weho I have never met follows something similar. According to my bro, who has met him, he is hypersensitive to violence and its presence makes him physically ill. Even its presence in a place in the near future has this effect. Haven't read the seth stuff, but I am sitting in a structure, and using another structure, dependant on a network all created originally in peoples minds.

If that isn't thoughts creating reality what is?

The vegetarian thing is a bit much for me, tho my wife has been vego since she was about 6 or 8 years old. So i get to be de facto vego most of the time. Her only, well main, basis for it is not killing or committing violence.

The blackfellas (an aboriginal term btw) are rarely vegetarian. In fact I heard something like the only potentially valid justification for eating animals. certain grasses provide a medicinal effect, but humans are unable to consume enough to get an effect. Whatever the healing agent is, its apparantly stored in the kidneys of certain kangaroos. So the only way to access it is by eating their kidneys. I dunno how accurate that is tho. Great way to justify carnivous urges to vego hippies that have some sort of worship for your culture, if nothing else - maybe thats a bit cynical.

The idea of totemism can be very complex, you don't eat your animal, and are responsible for the species' well being, and can call bans on any consumption of that particular animal if the enviromental conditions are such that the species is facing a lean time. They also have a complex belief system involving serial reincarnation, that means you are bound to come back as the critters you have hunted at some point, and your descendants are probably going to hunt and eat you. This was told to me by an initiated aboriginal man, whose nickname is Keith the Duck. He's a great bloke with a wealth of real, decent humanity about him, and someone whose opinion on these matters i definitely trust. I dunno if its appropriate to mention his proper name on this site.

The connections between indigenous australian and american culture are interesting, many similarities, and what seem to be place specific differences too. I know the ghosts of old blackfellas don't take kindly to doing native american rituals here tho, cos of that place specific thing.

I haven't seen the Last Wave BTW, been trying to find it at video rental stores round here for years. When I was very young, 8 or 9, Star Wars came out, and the pre show trailer was for that film. It freaked me out big time. But thats another story.

I think there is a difference between religion when it works, in any form, indigenous or Abrahamic, or anything else, and what the MC stuff is about. Thats a genuine sense of connection to, and respect for something outside yourself, and a genuine consideration for others.

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The Abrahamic religions, and their gods and satan, all give me the creeps. It permeates the whole mind control thing, along with the other weirdo cult stuff. In mind control and alien abduction, there seems to be a serious undercurrent of satanic ritual abuse. Seems like these religions and their satan are the real source of the misery.

Its weird that one...

I like Wombats take, on his Brainsturbator article "Your fear is all they have":

http://www.brainsturbator.com/site/comments/your_fear_is_all_they_have/

Basically, whether satan exists or not the real danger is what the followers do in the name of whatever they believe. I dunno about the religions themselves tho, cos I know some v tolerant and really beautiful Christians and Jews. That thing about personal power might be the crux, and that Yoga school might well be ontot something by rejecting the gaining of power. That school/path sounds familiar actually, tho i have trouble remembering any oif the names associated with that stuff. There are so many. Apparantly our "family guru" weho I have never met follows something similar. According to my bro, who has met him, he is hypersensitive to violence and its presence makes him physically ill. Even its presence in a place in the near future has this effect. Haven't read the seth stuff, but I am sitting in a structure, and using another structure, dependant on a network all created originally in peoples minds.

If that isn't thoughts creating reality what is?

The vegetarian thing is a bit much for me, tho my wife has been vego since she was about 6 or 8 years old. So i get to be de facto vego most of the time. Her only, well main, basis for it is not killing or committing violence.

The blackfellas (an aboriginal term btw) are rarely vegetarian. In fact I heard something like the only potentially valid justification for eating animals. certain grasses provide a medicinal effect, but humans are unable to consume enough to get an effect. Whatever the healing agent is, its apparantly stored in the kidneys of certain kangaroos. So the only way to access it is by eating their kidneys. I dunno how accurate that is tho. Great way to justify carnivous urges to vego hippies that have some sort of worship for your culture, if nothing else - maybe thats a bit cynical.

The idea of totemism can be very complex, you don't eat your animal, and are responsible for the species' well being, and can call bans on any consumption of that particular animal if the enviromental conditions are such that the species is facing a lean time. They also have a complex belief system involving serial reincarnation, that means you are bound to come back as the critters you have hunted at some point, and your descendants are probably going to hunt and eat you. This was told to me by an initiated aboriginal man, whose nickname is Keith the Duck. He's a great bloke with a wealth of real, decent humanity about him, and someone whose opinion on these matters i definitely trust. I dunno if its appropriate to mention his proper name on this site.

The connections between indigenous australian and american culture are interesting, many similarities, and what seem to be place specific differences too. I know the ghosts of old blackfellas don't take kindly to doing native american rituals here tho, cos of that place specific thing.

I haven't seen the Last Wave BTW, been trying to find it at video rental stores round here for years. When I was very young, 8 or 9, Star Wars came out, and the pre show trailer was for that film. It freaked me out big time. But thats another story.

I think there is a difference between religion when it works, in any form, indigenous or Abrahamic, or anything else, and what the MC stuff is about. Thats a genuine sense of connection to, and respect for something outside yourself, and a genuine consideration for others.

That's Wombat's blog you linked? Very good piece, that. I'm in complete agreement. I read a book on that Mexican satanic drug cult.

I'd like to talk further about religion, in general, but I don't want to take this thread off topic. Maybe another thread on that would be good.

As for religion ever working, and it's relationship to mind control, my thoughts are that religion IS mc, spirituality is not. When you find a wonderful person who is Christian, Jew, Muslim, whatever, I'd have to say that it's in spite of the religion, not because of it.

[Joe Hillshoist]

yeah we are getting way OT here. I never got around to the blackfellas concept of abductions and how that relates to their culture, but perhaps thats for another thread or later on this one.

I lost a post the other noght to a power surge or something on the grid.

It was after reading DE's Larouche thread.

Which was unreal.

I have met a few CEC people from coburg, one in particular. Mega cult midset there. Ughhh.

As to witless whitley.

Here's the dedication from the start of his book Communion.


I spose there should be a trigger warning here, or a potential trigger warning but anyone reading these threads should by aware of the potential for triggers from the start.





It's a way down, on its own if you want to skip it....

















To the ones who have slipped into the mirror
And the nes who reflect it in their eyes.
to the ones who must hide everything,
And to the ones who lose what they hide
To the ones who cannot be silent
And the ones who must lie.









That sounds like he is talking about something other than abduction (MC?) IMO.

[11:11]

That sounds like he is talking about something other than MC IMO.

What else does it sound like, to you? Sounds like some cult mumbo jumbo, to me.

[Joe Hillshoist]

That was one of my many typos, i edited it as soon as i reread it, but I obviously wasn't quick enough.

I meant to say it sounded more like some MC references I have come across than an appropriate dedication to alien aductee's. Possibly it also had some triggers in it.

There are countless references to the use of mirrors in programming alters for example.

[Sepka]

Puharich presented the mental effects of ELF waves to military leaders, but they would not believe him. He gave this information to certain dignitaries of other Western nations. The US government burned down his home in New York to shut him up and he fled to Mexico. However, the Russians discovered which ELF frequencies did what to the human brain and began zapping the US Embassy in Moscow on 4 July 1976 with electromagnetic-waves, varying the signal, including focusing on 10 Hz. (10 Hz puts people into a hypnotic state. Russians and North Koreans use this in portable mind-control machines to extract confessions. A machine was even found in an American church to help the congregation believe!) The Russian "Woodpecker" signal was traveling across the world from a transmitter near Kiev. The US Air Force identified 5 different frequencies in this compound harmonic Woodpecker signal that was sending signals through the earth and the atmosphere.

The Russian "woodpecker" signals turned out to be from an over the horizon radar that NATO dubbed "Steel Yard", actually. http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/world ... l-yard.htm

[Dreams End]

It's interesting to me that SRI was working on OTH radar at about the same time as working on "remote viewing". I think they were also developing other "remote sensing" technologies to see through walls or underground or whatever. If anyone has more info on that, I'd be interested.

[LilyPatToo]

Joe, thanks for posting that "Communion" dedication. I read the book so long ago that I'd completely forgotten it. And reading it now (or then) didn't trigger me, but it does intrigue me. Now that I know about MC and alter systems and programming, it does definitely echo THAT language and not that of alien abduction AT ALL. The mirror part, to me, sounded like pure Monarch programming (or whatever you want to call it--I realize that calling it "Monarch" may be buying into disinfo).

I got the impression from it that Strieber may have been far less knowledgeable back then about trauma-based MC and have written that spontaneously from some deep place inside himself--in fact, it may even have been a statement by an alter, about the programmed system in which it exists. I don't know. But now that Onesmartrat and I and others have insisted upon presenting the MC information on his alien abduction site, I somehow very much doubt that he would put those words at the beginning of any of his current gray-promoting books. Interesting.

Re: Puharich, I again refer interested people to Philip Coppens' article on him here http://www.philipcoppens.com/starconundrum.html. Not sure if it's just been added, but there's now a "Reactions" section at the end that I've never noticed before. In it he comments upon the feedback he received from many of the people whose work on Remote Viewing he discusses in the original piece. And they're all people who are discussed here on RI.

RV's a very tangled web and sorting out the disinformation isn't easy. It belongs in a discussion of mind control, I guess, since program survivors have mentioned being taught to do it. I try to exclude it from the Witness thread on UC due to the way it instantly is seized upon by all the traumatized experiencers there and used to distract themselves from the cruel reality of trauma-based MC. Here, I think it's more likely to be discussed in context.

I think I was too old, living across the country or by some other means missed being used in the RV programs here in the Bay Area, but I believe I was used in psy-oriented MC programs too--ones on time manipulation and precognition/clairvoyance--that were conducted in or around western PA in the 50's-70's. I keep hoping that some MC researcher will publish information on who was doing the research or at least where.

Interestingly, back in the 90's when I'd been living here in the Bay Area for a while, I was taken by a UFO researcher I knew (who--like OSR--was exploited in the SRI kids program) to meet a local guy who'd been in one of the RV programs. He was an older man and was genuinely psychic--he did an impressive bit of psychometry on a photo I handed him of a painting I'd done. Wish I could recall more of that strange evening, but I just can't...except that he was Greek-American and his name (like most Greek-American males I've known) was Nick. [sigh] I hate my holey memory

LilyPat

[11:11]

Lead story on Unknown Country homepage, today:

YOU Can Be Part of a Mind Control Project!
22-Mar-2007

Lynne McTaggart
Maybe just one good thought is all it takes to change the world. On Saturday, March 24 at 10 am Pacific time, tens of thousands of volunteers from around the world will participate in a series of web-based experiments, which will form the largest mind-over-matter study in history. Lynne McTaggart, author of The Intention Experiment, was on our March 17 Dreamland show, talking about this incredible experiment in mind control, which she has designed with Dr. Gary Schwartz, who has also been a guest on Dreamland. The first experiment will be to try to heal an wilting plant. If it can be brought back to life, the next step will be to try to heal a person, or maybe even the earth. To register for the Intention Project, click here.

[LilyPatToo]

Everyone here who is at all interested in the many connections between mind control programs and the New Age movement should go and read Dream's End's newest blog entry here -- http://dreamsend.wordpress.com/

One bit of info from my past that floated up as I read his blog was something that I know I posted at UC, but apparently not on this thread--I apologize if I have and just cannot find it now--I knew one of the people he mentions:

A prominent physicist, Sarfatti received a number of phone calls from a “computer from the future” in 1953 while a student attending a “gifted program” sponsored by Sandia Labs and led by a convicted pedophile who would later marry Marion Zimmer Bradley.

That was Walter Breen, who I met back in the mid-80's (I think) at local and national science fiction conventions. He was married to a professional writer and since I was a professional artist, we got invited to the same parties. No one I knew had any clue that he was a pedophile back then and he seemed to like my artwork and was very affectionate toward me, so I was friendly toward him.

He'd give me huge bear hugs when he saw me and would initiate the wierdest conversations--mostly odd-sounding questions asked of me. Some were SO strange that I put it down to his taking WAY too many drugs. And since he looked just like a hippie Santa Claus then--tie-dyed shirts and all, that sort of made sense. Knowing nothing of mind control programs then, I just tried my best to answer him...NOW, of course, I'd give a great deal to be able to remember exactly what he asked about, but my holey memory refuses to cough up a single one of our conversations...which is interesting in and of itself, given that that happens around all my encounters with program people.

But I now think he knew exactly what I was and that was the reason for his odd smirking demeanor around me.

The Skeptic and I were invited to the big Grayhaven parties in Berkeley too and though for a while we attended them, I had serious problems with panic attacks at them. Since I have a mild form of social anxiety disorder, I put them down to that, but eventually I began to panic at the sight of a letter from Grayhaven and annoyed The Skeptic by refusing to go there at all.

Grayhaven is a NeoPagan commune in the Berkeley Hills that is headed by the wonderful fantasy author Diana Paxson. It is essentially a sister coven hived off of Marion Zimmer Bradley's group, which I think was called Greenwalls...something like that. And the same group, which included Walter Breen, attended the parties at Grayhaven.

Ever since I left the Catholic Church in 1968 and declared myself a Solitary Wiccan, I longed to belong to a larger Pagan community, yet when I finally found one, I was unable to be part of it. This perplexed me and I'm still puzzling it out, but I suspect that DE is correct about Walter Breen and there may have been more people in that group who were ex-MC via the Stanford thinktank. It was a fascinating group of intellectuals.

LilyPat

PS 11:11, yes, that was a jaw-dropper headline at the UC's front page I suspect that it was an attempt to "spin" all the information that's currently emerging about the US government mind control programs.