OSAMA BIN LADEN ANNOUNCED DEAD BY OBAMA (renamed thread)

[82_28]

I've been joining in on comments and forum posts by raw raw people loving this bin laden death,
saying "Cool. Now can we go after those who finance and support bin Laden?" Oh but Im a conspiracy theorist in their eyes for daring to allege
bin Laden has been a puppet all this time of the elite.

Yes. That appears to be ultimately the set-up.

I cringe, wince, whatever any time anything comes down to a singular human entity as enemy or hero. I don't think it's even because I read 1984 at the age of 10 or so. Singular entities cannot conduct mass civilizational evil on their own. Singular entities can however change the mood and briefly tug the EQ of society into a direction more befitting of an educated and open minded populace, thus creating more liminal brainpower on issues that affect ethics and commonsense. Upton Sinclair, for instance, comes to mind.

This belies the aspect that the USA's most popular sport is American football. It is the only sport with a singular leader. The QB. He's always in the pocket, needs "protection", must make snap decisions. He's always the one with the special rules preventing him from meeting with harm. And they're always fucking rightwing assholes off the field. QBs are focused on as above and beyond the team itself. Whereas in any other sport the team plays as a singular entity. Football is personal but experienced vicariously and from afar. American wars are personal and also experience vicariously and from afar.

[kenoma]

This is great:

[8bitagent]

I know we all hate on blowhard Alex Jones and his occasional xenophobic paranoia and gun worshipping frenzy...

but I have to say, right here at 11:33...he is dead on.

He said, notice how every terror attack gets bigger and bigger. It squares itself.

WTC 1993. OKC 1995. 9/11 2001.

There's only one thing left: nuclear attack. Some sort of low yield nuke bomb or device to level a whole city somewhere or part of a city.



Yeah, in 2005-2006 he was always saying "the US is getting ready to attack Iran" and "a big false flag new 9/11 is around the corner".

But with that wikileaks "nuclear attack could come as revenge for bin Laden death" story released BEFORE bin Laden's death, and the fact the January 2008 Dem Debate opened with "not if, but when al Qaeda hits us with nukes".

The wars, the TSA, the hercules/viper gestapo squads in NYC, the security, etc is NOT decreasing...its ramping up into high gear even according to MSNBC, CNN, etc.


...everything just feels eerily in place, especially with 2012 coming up and everything else thats been going on. The ptb NEED a jaw dropping holy fucking shit event to really bring in the dark new chapter of world war, financial ruin and everything else. I had a sickening feeling in 2006 Obama would win and not be progressive. I had a feeling bin Laden would be found in a large ISI safehouse just like KSM was. And I had a feeling they'd wait til Obama was in power to do the Obama/Osama memetic name ritual. Anyone else have that feeling that now, more than ever in the coming year could be primed for such a ghastly game changer? I mean shoot, what else is coming down the pipeline this year? Worst tornadoes in US history, entire Muslim world under chaos, mass animal die offs, financial system on the brink, $5+ gas, Japan and all that horror and misery...

[JackRiddler]

This is great:

Now that's my town!

[eyeno]

Bin Laden: Gunned down by Navy Seals as he attempted to scuttle off to his luxury spider-hole

[Brentos]

I agree with JackRiddler, that it is all kind of comical.

Well it really is. With this OBL thing, as soon as I saw the first facebook posting from a colleague about it, I came straight here knowing there was going to be some severe weirdness, and since R.I. was a part of getting where I am today and OBL~911 was a starting point on that journey (well seeing Bill Hicks back in 1992 was). Its like a closure of sorts for me. Yes shit will probably get worse, but there isn't anything going to change that, and I'm not worried.

Also the mainstream is so incredibly DULL to me nowadays. Most people do act like drones, and are boring to talk to when it comes to important matters outside of day to day life.

After going way down the rabbit hole and dealing with people like The Informer & James Montgomery @ atgpress, taking Ibogaine to beat addiction and to experience 'rebirth' (Ibogaine works!), all you can do is fucking laugh at people sometimes, since like Bill Hicks said, its just a ride, its all distractions. That's why I've focused on whats important, yourself, your family, your friends & god.

[IanEye]

Good God. EVEN if i was a braindead American who accepted the official story and loved the wars, loved Bush and Obama and loved him killing Osama bin Laden...
I'd be puzzled as to why he would do a memorial at Ground Zero NOT ON september 11th 2001.

Probably part of more of their occult death ritual ceremonies. When does that Giffords NASA shuttle launch?

i would imagine the main reason Obama's PR Department wants the President to go to New York City in the Empire State now, as opposed to later, is that the entire Nation has ceded the months of August and September to right wing Fascists.

i have not forgotten the Ground Zero Mosque.

i have not forgotten Beck claiming the mantle of MLK, as is His Divine Right.

i have not forgotten the representation of Obamacare as the grinning rictus of Heath Ledger.

i haven't forgotten these things for a lot of reasons, but i think the main reason i haven't forgotten is that i'm not brain dead.


by the way, if i was head of Obama PR, i would see to it that every Presidential motorcade had to crank this tune up to ear splitting levels:

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[8bitagent]

That's why I've focused on whats important, yourself, your family, your friends & god.

Absolutely. I met up with my family for a nice lunch earlier, and of course they are on the same page with me in my views of whats going on in the world. I didnt bring it up, but they asked me my thoughts on the whole bin Laden thing...as often people do at parties or over dinner. And I felt kind of sick going over my thoughts.

And I thought wait a second...Im giving in to "it". Im ruining this moment and having a pit in my stomach when I should be enjoying this food and company. Look at my and other writing on here, while it's all type 10 arial fonts on a screen...its clear many of us are mentally fatigued in some way or greatly disappointed.

We can shout all day on the mountaintops about the "evil Satanic global elite controlling all us sheep", but at the end of the day...if we only have a select amount of good years on earth; and on top of that were lucky enough to be lucky to nestle in a fertilized egg to begin with...I realize how much we often can take away the beauty of the moment. How we squander. I overhear both spoiled jocks and gangbanger youth having fights with their impregnated young girl friends, and think "man, does anyone follow their dreams anymore"? I see these spoiled young women and these hoity toity well to do people at the mall, and think these are the people who will suffer the worst if there's a financial collapse. How far have we gotten from whats important? As long as we all have our ADD instant texting, netflix, twitter, facebook and xbox...its all cool. we wont notice til its too late. Nor will we go for positive goals and achieve things.

Oh to enjoy even the small fleeting moments that almost seem meant for us. On my way back walking from the grocery store I saw a large turkey foraging for food outside a dentist office, regal in its colors and elegance...and I smiled, and felt that alone makes life worth living. And I do realize my near decade long research/commentary in this stuff didnt yield me anything but alienating people.

[Aldebaran]

I mean again...OSAMA/OBAMA. <--- this right here is way too much of a coincidence for me.

Wait till you hear what his MIDDLE name is.

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Re: burial at sea
Now I'm not even close to an obama apologetic, but sometimes I like to pretend that the president actually tries to do his best for the electorate given the situation, given the tools at hand. On even rarer occasions I like to contemplate what it would mean if what's on the evening news is even weakly coupled to the What Really Happened, and isn't some diversion to distract or mislead for some nefariousness.

We all know what a colossal blunder the iraq and afghanistan wars have been, and I'm pretty sure our glorious leader does also. We all know that our response as a nation to 9/11 was completely over the top, and probably only served to exacerbate the problem, and again, I do not think this fact escapes obama. You've all been saying in this thread how this doesn't change anything and you're right, because osama a non-entity, he doesn't matter. His death (though necessary from GL's point of view), is a thorn in obamas side because it stirs up all those disgusting feelings, horrible memories, and only serves to legitimize the atrocities that are being continually committed in the middle east by the US. So I can understand why obama would want to sweep this under the rug as quickly as possible. No gruesome pictures for Mets fans to rally around, no gravesite for al qaeda to rally around, just dump him, weather the fallout with the pakistanis, and hopefully get this all over with in a timely fashion.

Now color me optimistic but I truly hope for an end to all this, and as some have been saying hopefully obama uses this golden opportunity. From the looks of it I think he's been trying, and, barring some crazy revelation from osama's computer files I think it just might happen. Or start to happen.

Good God. EVEN if i was a braindead American who accepted the official story and loved the wars, loved Bush and Obama and loved him killing Osama bin Laden...
I'd be puzzled as to why he would do a memorial at Ground Zero NOT ON september 11th 2001.

Better address this while I'm still projecting my most naive hopes and dreams onto reality (the stupor of apricot heffeweizen). Even in this state of mind I must admit the inevitability of a big hoopla on the 10th anniversary, but we've got to stop identifying with this atrocity as a nation. I might say this is an attempt at that, you know, disassociating the date from the event. Shame osama's death didn't happen next year or I might have had a snowball's chance in hell of being right.

[Nordic]

I mean again...OSAMA/OBAMA. <--- this right here is way too much of a coincidence for me.

Wait till you hear what his MIDDLE name is.

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Re: burial at sea
Now I'm not even close to an obama apologetic, but sometimes I like to pretend that the president actually tries to do his best for the electorate given the situation, given the tools at hand. On even rarer occasions I like to contemplate what it would mean if what's on the evening news is even weakly coupled to the What Really Happened, and isn't some diversion to distract or mislead for some nefariousness.

We all know what a colossal blunder the iraq and afghanistan wars have been, and I'm pretty sure our glorious leader does also. We all know that our response as a nation to 9/11 was completely over the top, and probably only served to exacerbate the problem, and again, I do not think this fact escapes obama. You've all been saying in this thread how this doesn't change anything and you're right, because osama a non-entity, he doesn't matter. His death (though necessary from GL's point of view), is a thorn in obamas side because it stirs up all those disgusting feelings, horrible memories, and only serves to legitimize the atrocities that are being continually committed in the middle east by the US. So I can understand why obama would want to sweep this under the rug as quickly as possible. No gruesome pictures for Mets fans to rally around, no gravesite for al qaeda to rally around, just dump him, weather the fallout with the pakistanis, and hopefully get this all over with in a timely fashion.

Now color me optimistic but I truly hope for an end to all this, and as some have been saying hopefully obama uses this golden opportunity. From the looks of it I think he's been trying, and, barring some crazy revelation from osama's computer files I think it just might happen. Or start to happen.

[JackRiddler]

i would imagine the main reason Obama's PR Department wants the President to go to New York City in the Empire State now, as opposed to later, is that the entire Nation has ceded the months of August and September to right wing Fascists.

i have not forgotten the Ground Zero Mosque.

i have not forgotten Beck claiming the mantle of MLK, as is His Divine Right.

i have not forgotten the representation of Obamacare as the grinning rictus of Heath Ledger.

i haven't forgotten these things for a lot of reasons, but i think the main reason i haven't forgotten is that i'm not brain dead.

Yeah, I don't think there is any question why they're scheduling the GZ visit now, though I suppose someone's going to decide that 5/5/11 is a very significant number. (Got it: Pentagon x Twin Towers = 55! Phew!) Honestly, I can imagine that someone thought to perform the USA Shared OBL Death Ritual on Walpurgisnacht, but you know I don't much go for that stuff otherwise. Except Walpurgisnacht was the night before, April 30th. And I definitely don't see significance in the rhyming names.

You know something? I almost forgot these things, and I'm glad you reminded us. Especially the "Ground Zero Mosque." That still has the power to Piss. Me. Off. You've also made me recall that quasi-riot protest by rich brownshirts harrassing families as they went into a Muslim charity dinner in Orange County.

I am not expecting the Mother of All False Flags to come of this. I think what you saw is what you got. However, unfortunately, I give 5:1 odds that this will not be used as the moment to declare victory and GTFO, but as the first shot in the next round of the perpetual wars.

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[Nordic]

IT's going to be used as a reason to keep the obscene level of military spending, black ops spending, security state spending, and torture and secret rendition.

It's going to be "hey look! It worked! We have to keep this up!" In fact that's what they're already saying!

I'm surprised anyone would think anything else.

UNLESS ..... the spending/deficit thing is SOOOO bad that even the M.I.C. has realized it's gotta be cut back or the US will collapse and there will be no more MIC.

But I sorta doubt that.

[IanEye]

though I suppose someone's going to decide that 5/5/11 is a very significant number.

cinco de mayo - an obvious ploy to garner the illegal immigrant vote....

[2012 Countdown]

Better address this while I'm still projecting my most naive hopes and dreams onto reality (the stupor of apricot heffeweizen). Even in this state of mind I must admit the inevitability of a big hoopla on the 10th anniversary, but we've got to stop identifying with this atrocity as a nation. I might say this is an attempt at that, you know, disassociating the date from the event. Shame osama's death didn't happen next year or I might have had a snowball's chance in hell of being right.

It is nice to still have hope, but is it a sort-of UNfuneral service for....for... OBL?

[Brentos]

That's why I've focused on whats important, yourself, your family, your friends & god.

Absolutely. I met up with my family for a nice lunch earlier, and of course they are on the same page with me in my views of whats going on in the world. I didnt bring it up, but they asked me my thoughts on the whole bin Laden thing...as often people do at parties or over dinner. And I felt kind of sick going over my thoughts.

And I thought wait a second...Im giving in to "it". Im ruining this moment and having a pit in my stomach when I should be enjoying this food and company. Look at my and other writing on here, while it's all type 10 arial fonts on a screen...its clear many of us are mentally fatigued in some way or greatly disappointed.

We can shout all day on the mountaintops about the "evil Satanic global elite controlling all us sheep", but at the end of the day...if we only have a select amount of good years on earth; and on top of that were lucky enough to be lucky to nestle in a fertilized egg to begin with...I realize how much we often can take away the beauty of the moment. How we squander. I overhear both spoiled jocks and gangbanger youth having fights with their impregnated young girl friends, and think "man, does anyone follow their dreams anymore"? I see these spoiled young women and these hoity toity well to do people at the mall, and think these are the people who will suffer the worst if there's a financial collapse. How far have we gotten from whats important? As long as we all have our ADD instant texting, netflix, twitter, facebook and xbox...its all cool. we wont notice til its too late. Nor will we go for positive goals and achieve things.

Oh to enjoy even the small fleeting moments that almost seem meant for us. On my way back walking from the grocery store I saw a large turkey foraging for food outside a dentist office, regal in its colors and elegance...and I smiled, and felt that alone makes life worth living. And I do realize my near decade long research/commentary in this stuff didnt yield me anything but alienating people.

I hear you 8bit, you are very passionate, and I can relate to that. I am too. Even now I find it hard not to get upset sometimes, or make similar observations. But it is also liberating to see through all the BS that makes life so complicated for many people. Luckily, I have met a lovely girl, who has been on this journey with me, and that has helped

The best time I had recently was hanging out with a woman who was a very devout catholic, and I would say, very conservative relative to mainstream. She never watched the news, or kept up with current events, because of 'how bad everything was'. You would think we should of gotten on like chalk and cheese, but all we talked about was our families, anecdotes about growing up, the relationships we were in, children, pranks we did etc.

Anyways, don't mean to derail the thread.