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Re: Active Shooter San Bernardino

Postby backtoiam » Fri Dec 11, 2015 1:21 am

stickdog99 » Fri Dec 11, 2015 12:05 am wrote:I cannot disagree with any post on this page.

The refugees will be let in. And if they are not disaffected and/or energetic enough to cause terror organically, the terror will be created anyway and blamed on them. And the false divisions between the have nots will multiply. And the hatred of some poor sheep for other poor sheep of different "sects" will intensify. And the corporate media will do its best to coronate a fascist savior.

And bullshit conspiratainment sites do us no favors in fighting against what we all know they have been carefully planning for us for decades now. Complete commodification and control of land, water, air, food, human interaction, and human cooperation. Total information awareness. Profitable mayhem that keeps us begging for order at any cost.


No kiddin check out this rotten trash. The average human mind is not smart enough to guard against this and go hug a Muslim around the neck and offer them something to eat instead of turn into a racist asshole. And actually it wouldn't be their fault if they do because they don't know any better.

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Re: Active Shooter San Bernardino

Postby Elvis » Fri Dec 11, 2015 1:32 am



The DailyMail would never sensationalize. :roll:
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Re: Active Shooter San Bernardino

Postby backtoiam » Fri Dec 11, 2015 1:35 am



I think the whole story is bullshit Elvis. I doubt it even happened. But you would be hard pressed to convince your average Joe of that. They want the average Joe to read that and hate Muslims.

Indigent refugee migrants that came over without anything just so happened to have some gas on them and are running around gasing people? I"m not buying it. Look for more of this impossible stupidity because this party is just getting started probably.
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Re: Active Shooter San Bernardino

Postby Nordic » Fri Dec 11, 2015 1:42 am

The refugee thing was certainly being pushed in a very suspicious manner here in the US. I mean have you ever seen Obama argue so forcefully for ANYTHING else? He actually acted like it was important to him, imagine that.

So ... Why? Just more divide/conquer, or setting the stage for future plans and plots.

My country, the USA, is pure evil, and is the greatest and most powerful enemy to humanity and the earth and all that is good. As Rove said, it's an empire now. A purely evil one.

The sooner everybody on the planet figures that out, the better. It can't happen soon enough.
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Re: Active Shooter San Bernardino

Postby backtoiam » Fri Dec 11, 2015 3:06 am

Sounds like a (business) plan.


Apparently so. Take a look around for the main military contractor in this refugee resettlement. Irony is really something else...
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Re: Active Shooter San Bernardino

Postby backtoiam » Fri Dec 11, 2015 3:37 am

Talk about odd twists and turns. Even Pecker Head Rush Limbaugh and wait for it....yes...Pamela Geller believe it or not are questioning this story. Pamela Geller? Seriously?

They either screwed this up so bad and turned it into such a clusterfuck that they have enlisted some help to turn this into a different story or what?

Maybe they will blame it on a "vast terror cell" and just couldn't tell the whole story yet, because they are pretending to be investigating it or something, etc...or ignore it? I don't know.

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2015/ ... o_cover_up
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Re: Active Shooter San Bernardino

Postby backtoiam » Fri Dec 11, 2015 6:00 am

I saw pictures of these Craft guys in their khaki pants all dressed just alike on the scene of the Boston Bombing. That back pack those boys supposedly had was the same as the back packs some Craft guys had on.

This guy is right. More people are catching on and I think that might be the weird signal is more weird getting weird faster. They screwed this last one up bad and it flew all over Facebook.

NSA and CIA Contractor Says U.S. Mercenary Group Carried Out San Bernardino Attack

December 9, 2015 10:04 pm
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A former NSA and CIA contractor says he has to come clean about the San Bernardino shooting, which he says did not happen the way the media and law enforcement are claiming.

The official narrative is that last Wednesday, Syed Rizwan Farook, 28, and Tashfeen Malik, 29, stormed a holiday party in San Bernardino, California, shooting and killing 14 people and injuring 21 others. This marks the deadliest mass shooting in the US in three years.

We are told that Malik pledged allegiance to Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, the leader of the Daesh (ISIS) terrorist organization and pseudo-Caliphate. This pledge or “bayat” supposedly came via Facebook – during the attacks in question.

The Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) said on Monday that the couple had been radicalized “for some time,” even though they claimed to have known absolutely nothing about them.

But according to Steven D Kelley, a former NSA and CIA contractor, Mercenaries from the Craft International, a tactical training company for the US military, are the ones who carried out a “false flag operation” in San Bernardino, California.

Kelley said in an interview with Iran’s Press TV on Tuesday that the San Bernardino shooting “is just one in a long string of false flag events that I am afraid to say are not over.”

“We’ll probably be seeing several more before the end of the year, because of the events that are going on in the world, specifically with the NATO being implicated in the buying of oil from Daesh and other events,” he continued.

“So when these things happen they need to have a rapid response which requires a false flag attack. This was very obvious that this was going to happen,” Kelley added.

“The people that were on the scene and saw this happen also reported that three tall white men wearing black shirts, khaki pants and tanned combat boots were actually the shooters. The description is almost exactly what the gentlemen from Craft International, the mercenary organization that was involved in so many other false flags, actually look like. This seems to be their standard uniform,” he concluded.

In spite of claimed from law enforcement and President Obama, Kelley says that he is absolutely certain that the couple accused did not carry out the attacks.

“The people that are being implicated – the couple – first of all if they were planning something, if they were radicalized as this is being said, and clearly the NSA, the FBI will be right on the top of these people all the time, but rather than stopping them from doing something, they were nurtured to be used for this exact purpose,” he argued.

“I do not suspect that these people have anything to do with the actual shooting. I suspect that these were patsies, no different than Timothy McVeigh or any of these other people who have historically been used to implement these terrorist acts,” he continued.

“If you look at the people that were wounded you can see clearly that bullet wounds are not real. The .223 caliber weapon or bullets fired from AR15 – an extremely powerful weapon – would blow someone’s arm off, it is not going to make a small hole,” Kelley concluded, noting his professional background and vast knowledge of tactical weapons and ballistic wounds.

“So clearly this is a very very dirty false flag. Obviously, the United States is getting very very desperate; the government here is very desperate, they need to do something immediately to disarm the United States prior to a revolution, because the people here are waking up very fast, and they are ready to shut down this evil empire. And this needs to happen very soon,” Kelley concluded.

Watch the video of the interview below and let us know what you think about Kelley’s controversial claims…


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Re: Active Shooter San Bernardino

Postby mentalgongfu2 » Fri Dec 11, 2015 7:49 am

Where to even begin... the fact that mass shootings are now by default muddied by media and alternative media and crowd-sourced media means the whole damn she-bang is really muddy, and people who step into deep mud get stuck or at least dirty.

Khaki pants and backpacks, as sure a sign of intelligence agents/contractors as Che Guevara t-shirts and bags of weed are of anti-establishment revolutionaries. It would take days to deconstruct the noise from signal, and while we do so, they'll just "create a new reality" for us to deconstruct. Let's focus in on one obvious fallacy:


“So clearly this is a very very dirty false flag. Obviously, the United States is getting very very desperate; the government here is very desperate, they need to do something immediately to disarm the United States prior to a revolution, because the people here are waking up very fast, and they are ready to shut down this evil empire. And this needs to happen very soon,” Kelley concluded.



An attempt to disarm gun owners is probably the quickest thing that could lead to any sort of attempt at a revolution, and events such as this one has been portrayed only gin up the armed, angry portion of the populace. And then there's the "evil empire" term, reference to anti-Soviet propaganda of the Reagan era. And if people are "waking up" what are they waking up to? It doesn't seem to be to anything even bordering on rationality or opposition to the totalitarian aims of power. The claim that the nefarious government forces are desperate and getting more so has been made so many many times it has become a farce. Why would they be desperate? What they are doing is working just as planned.
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Postby IanEye » Fri Dec 11, 2015 8:38 am

I find it interesting that after a months long campaign of stochastic terrorism aimed at Planned Parenthood finally paid off, this “scary muslim” event happened the very next news cycle, quite conveniently pushing the PP shooting off the headlines.

I find it even more interesting that none of the articles posted here, none of them, can make that connection.
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Re: Active Shooter San Bernardino

Postby Elvis » Fri Dec 11, 2015 8:42 am

backtoiam » Fri Dec 11, 2015 3:00 am wrote:I saw pictures of these Craft guys in their khaki pants all dressed just alike on the scene of the Boston Bombing. That back pack those boys supposedly had was the same as the back packs some Craft guys had on.

This guy is right. More people are catching on and I think that might be the weird signal is more weird getting weird faster. They screwed this last one up bad and it flew all over Facebook.

NSA and CIA Contractor Says U.S. Mercenary Group Carried Out San Bernardino Attack

December 9, 2015 10:04 pm
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A former NSA and CIA contractor says he has to come clean about the San Bernardino shooting, which he says did not happen the way the media and law enforcement are claiming

http://countercurrentnews.com/2015/12/s ... ontractor/


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That video is worthless because Steven D. Kelley is a low grade con man. He's a shyster and he's dishonest and untrustworthy.

Once again, the countercurrentnews writers are completely disingenuous from the first sentence. Steven D. Kelley is not "coming clean" (about anything), but rather, he's full of shit. His "former NSA and CIA contracts" sound badass, but even IF he really ever had any contracts, they were for selling crappy laser firearm sights.

That PressTV video exists solely on the strength of Steven D. Kelley's facade of being some kind of expert in tradecraft, and again the countercurrentnews confabulators make his supposed "vast knowledge of tactical weapons and ballistic wounds" sound as if he'd been some kind of mercenary Rambo. But when he's not phoning it in to PressTV, he can be found working his New Age guru and UFO expert gigs. His 'books' are sold on lulu.com. He's got some juice, though, he shares stages with Richard Hoagland and Bashar.

( 'Bashar'? :shrug: )

Steven D. Kelley—and countercurrentnews—have zero credibility and should be dismissed.

edit: Oh, and he must have been too busy hustling people to notice that Craft International has been out of business for two years.
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Re: Active Shooter San Bernardino

Postby divideandconquer » Fri Dec 11, 2015 8:54 am

double post How do I delete this?
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Re: Active Shooter San Bernardino

Postby mentalgongfu2 » Fri Dec 11, 2015 8:58 am

IanEye said:
I find it interesting that after a months long campaign of stochastic terrorism aimed at Planned Parenthood finally paid off, this “scary muslim” event happened the very next news cycle, quite conveniently pushing the PP shooting off the headlines.

I find it even more interesting that none of the articles posted here, none of them, can make that connection.


Well worth noting.
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Re: Active Shooter San Bernardino

Postby divideandconquer » Fri Dec 11, 2015 8:59 am

divideandconquer » Fri Dec 11, 2015 8:54 am wrote:
Elvis » Thu Dec 10, 2015 9:05 pm wrote:countercurrentnews said:

He recently told reporters he received a phone call from an unknown person around 7 p.m., on the evening of the shooting, who told him that he must say that Sayd Farook was the shooter.


Except Chirs Nwadike doesn't say that the caller "told him that he must say" anything.

The writer, "M. David," apparently just made that up because Nwadike's real words weren't juicy enough; "told him that he must say" is what makes the article sexy; without it, the writer has nothing special. So he sexed it up. You see what I'm saying here?

Nor does Nwadike say that Farook didn't do it, but rather, when told it was Farook—probably by an acquaintence from work (countercurrent implies that a mysterious, unknown person called...wooo!)—he expressed surprise and perhaps some genuine doubt that Farook would do such a thing. (Perfectly reasonable surprise, not questioning that.)

That website is at least "a bit dubious" because that's the kind of 'evidence inflation' and sloppy re-characterizations of what people say, what a photograph shows, etc.—that is totally counterproductive and adds to the damned noise we're supposed to be sniffing out when other people do it.

Despite the maddening noise from the conspiratainment & slipshod research sectors—as if the MSM's noise is not bad enough—I'm now 99% convinced of a false flag setup by deep state Gladio types (not to exclude private contractors and/or foreign intel e.g. mossad). My objection here is not to that thesis, but to the sloppy repetition of bullshit just because it reinforces what a poster already thinks. I'm pleading for more rigor and better discernment.

I did take a close look & listen to the video, several times, and he never says he was 'told what he must say.'

Isn't repeating those kinds of completely made-up or imagined clues—which is what "told him that he must say" is—exactly the kind of misinfo* that we're supposed to be alert to? Do we not condemn the gullible media and national audience for swallowing completely made-up or imagined clues?

If we're going to judiciously study these events, I'd like to see some higher analytical standards. Without them, "history's actors" have every right to pat themselves on the back and laugh their asses off at us.

* (in this case, I assume that "M. David" is not a deep state asset, just an idiot)

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Sorry, that was sloppy posting on my part. :eeyaa I was directed to this website by a comment I was reading on another site when I should've been getting ready for work, so I posted it quickly with only a cursory glance at the video...so I wouldn't forget. Although the video still raises questions as Mac pointed out, the website is completely untrustworthy.
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Re: Active Shooter San Bernardino

Postby divideandconquer » Fri Dec 11, 2015 9:22 am

mentalgongfu2 » Fri Dec 11, 2015 8:58 am wrote:IanEye said:
I find it interesting that after a months long campaign of stochastic terrorism aimed at Planned Parenthood finally paid off, this “scary muslim” event happened the very next news cycle, quite conveniently pushing the PP shooting off the headlines.

I find it even more interesting that none of the articles posted here, none of them, can make that connection.


Well worth noting.

Well apparently the New York Times agrees, but these things occur so frequently that I think that may be a bit of a stretch. If anything Planned Parenthood is a highly protected institution. Not many people know about its legacy of eugenics and racism.
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Re: Active Shooter San Bernardino

Postby Grizzly » Fri Dec 11, 2015 10:27 am

Carly Fiorina on San Bernardino: "The ATF believes Someone Purchased these Guns on Behalf of the Police Department [/b]

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