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Postby Avalon » Fri Mar 23, 2007 8:29 am

Walter H. Breen. Numismatis and pedophile. Wrote Greek Love under pseudonym of J.Z. Eglinton.

A foundling child discovered in San Antonio, Texas (where Strieber was raised and attended the Secret School), Breen strove to distinguish himself academically from a young age and continued excelling academically throughout his post-secondary education. He endured a brief stint in the United States Army, and claimed that a 1947 plane crash while on duty contributed to his photographic memory. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_Breen

In the Star Trek universe, the Breen (Norwegian for"The glacier") are a very warlike race. mostly appearing in the Deep Space 9 series. A Romulan saying was "Never turn your back on a Breen."

While I haven't discovered any direct connection, a character in a Robert Heinlein short story was named Potiphar Breen. The 1952 story "The Year of the Jackpot" was anthologixed in The Menace from Earth. The Breen in this story is a statistician who studies cycles of human behavior.

In his 1993 article "Whence Came the Stranger:Tracking the Metapattern of Stranger in a Strange Land," the late Adam Walks Between Worlds speculates that "Heinlein wrote Stranger as an allegorical recapitulation of Thelema."

"While some anecdotes survive that show Heinlein as some sort of Santa Claus or friendly wizard,34 he would have been a 'maybe' on the closet magician list were it not for his relationship with three of the most famous Thelemic magicians besides Crowley: John Whiteside Parsons, Marjorie Cameron and L. Ron Hubbard... [snip] Only several mentions of Hubbard are made in Heinlein's biographies and collected letters, but it is clear that they were close. Hubbard and Heinlein lived near each other, served as officers in the Navy, worked for the same magazines, and, from what one reads, seem to have been close personal friends.35 Hubbard also wrote copious science fiction, and even introduced Heinlein to literary agent and long time friend Lurton Blassingame."

"Cameron 40 and others recall that Heinlein and Parsons were quite close friends. They may have met at the Los Angeles Science Fiction Fan club wich maintained a reading room -- they were certainly seen there together. It was also common for science fiction authors to tour the Pasadena-based Jet Propulsion Laboratories that Parsons co-founded. Heinlein was particularly avid in availing himself of such tours."

"From an interview with Marjorie Cameron. Heinlein was a the first person Jack Parsons ever introduced her to. She didn't care for Heinlein too much, with his ascot and pipe he was 'too slick, too Hollywood. But Jack and he were quite good friends.'"


Footnote 41: ""Check out Heinlein's 1952 short story, "The Year of the Jackpot" (anthologized in The Menace from Earth, Signet, 1959) in which protagonist Potipher Breen is a mathematician who tracks odd cycles and develops a theory of periodicity which links UFOs and flying saucers to mass human behavior and which functions at the meta level of personal will. At one point, Breen discovers a church which has reinstituted ritual nudity, 'Probably [for] the first time in a thousand years, aside from some screwball cults in Los Angeles. The reverend gentleman claimed that the ceremony was identical with the 'dance of the high priestess' in the temple of Karnak.'"
http://pturing.firehead.org/occult/grok/thelema.htm

The centenary of Heinlein's birth will be on 7/7/7.

[i]"Sarfatti reiterated that the enigmatic phone calls he received occurred in the summer of 1953. “I met Walter Breen soon after that via Robert Bashlow who recruited me and Johnny Glogower. Also Robert Solovay (briefly). Breen was working for Professor William Sheldon at Columbia Psychiatry Department funded by Eugene McDermott, a World War II Intelligence leader, co-founder of Texas Instruments and University of Texas at Dallas – and part of the Charles Lindburgh, Arthur Young ‘Round Table’ group. Saul-Paul Sirag says that L. Ron Hubbard was part of that scene along with Puharich. "
http://www.uri-geller.com/stargate_conu ... argate.htm[/i]

Heinlein's continuing obcession with incest is detailed in the latter half of this article on Heinlein's depiction of parents in his books.

http://www.heinleinsociety.org/rah/work ... nting.html
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Postby Joe Hillshoist » Fri Mar 23, 2007 10:17 am

the intention project sounds, on the face of it like a brilliant idea.

Mind control as a term is used in various contexts tho, not just in ref to controlling other peoples minds. PJ Carrol, author of Liber Null and Psychonaut uses it solely in connection with controlling your own mind.

I think the idea behind the intention project could be one of the most powerful ideas that humans apply, but it could also be easily manipulated in the direction of undoing its stated goals.
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Well, I'll be.....

Postby LilyPatToo » Fri Mar 23, 2007 1:31 pm

avalon, I bow to your superior intellect...or, at the very least, to your superior research skills! :shock: Why I never thought to Google Breen, I've no idea. I guess to me he's always been a source of discomfort--my memories of him are the "squirm in your chair" type, if you know what I mean. My mind shies away from them.

I've known a lot of science fiction ("hard" SF) authors and there is a small coterie at the top of the profession that regularly used to be invited to JPL. Most knew Heinlein personally, in fact. It was through a couple of them that I was invited to come to JPL with my artwork to a fair they held. I had some interesting missing time there and a very odd hole in my memory concerning--of all people--James Brown, who performed that day. My husband was completely boggled that I could possibly ever forget the sight of him prancing down the steps in an outrageous costume, singing his heart out :roll: I know The Skeptic's memory is accurate on this, since just yesterday I came across photos (that *I* took) of this strange event. But I still have no recollection of it at all.

But I do have confused memories of those black & white tiled floors that I loathe and of being herded from one lab to another there. And of an artist friend bugging me about being away from our booth, when I had no memory of leaving it at all. This has made me suspect that it might be (or have been) a programming center. Also, Mark Phillips mentioned it in one of Cathy O'Brien's books, but I have to consider the source in that case.

JPL has been mentioned in association with "Alternative 003", too. I'm still not able to see through the (to me) obvious disinformation in that conspiracy well enough to even guess what's true and what isn't, but it reeks of MC. And Bill Cooper was involved in it too, which is a bright red flag for fascinating disinfo that's palatable for UFO buffs.

It was a shock for me to discover how deeply the tentacles of MC are sunk into sf/fantasy fandom. From the widespread fascination with Crowley to JPL to Scientology's huge presence to ST's Rodenberry and the Nine--I lived immersed in that culture for many years without a clue :oops: :?

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Postby Dreams End » Fri Mar 23, 2007 1:44 pm

Nice work, Avalon.

No time to find them now, but you can find letters between Hubbard and Heinlein online...I think they are on a site that is simply a biographical site about Heinlein and not a "conspiracy" site of any kind.

I don't know how "Stranger" is a recapitulation of Thelema exactly. But let's remind ourselves where the Stranger came from, and that, of course, is Mars.

And Mars just continues to be in the middle of so much of this.
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Postby Avalon » Fri Mar 23, 2007 2:46 pm

LPT, I'll only admit to having a jack in my Third Eye that sucks Google right out of the air. :)

Of all the factoids, Breen being a foundling in San Antonio, where Strieber said he had his Secret School experiences, was what got my antennae wiggling.

Puthoff to Sarfatti's list in 2001:

Bascially, either we are part of some elaborate deep cover intelligence
operation of MJ 12 (as some ancient Secret Society extending back at least 1000 years to my alleged ancestor Rashi de Troyes & The First Crusade) extending well over 50 years now, this requires a paranoid conspiratorial frame of mind that not even I, in my most manic moments, give much credence to. :-) OR, it is pretty much as it appears on the surface of Puharich's story that there really is a "Spectra" "conscious computer" on a flying saucer with a "vacuum propeller", that it has time travel to the past capability using Star Gates in the Salam G*eometrodynamic field and that, I, you, and the others are being used
as an advance contact team for technology transfer from them to us. This may be part of a globally self-consistent loop in time with alternative timelines.

The two ideas are not incompatible BTW. Joe Firmage is simply one of the latest of the Spectra contactees. Actually both of these alternatives are also not incompatible.

The proof in the pudding will be in whether the physics really works in the
end. There is simply too much coincidence here if you look at the Big Picture over the past 50 years and beyond.

The objection against time travel to the past cannot be sustained. It is an
example of what Matt Visser describes as "An apparent inconsistency in a perfectly correct argument." Lorentzian Wormholes

When I look back on all the physics problems I worked on, they are all now obvious relevant pieces of the UFO technology puzzle - exactly as was indicated would be the case in 1953 and as can be found in Walter Breen's 10 page report on me to Cornell Admissions Committee in 1956 when I got full scholarship to go to Cornell to work with the top people from the Los Alamos Manhattan Project.

Breen was funded by the founder of Texas Instruments and from Sandia
Corporation. I am sure there is also a connection to Arthur Young and
Puharich from those early days in the 1950's. This and other documentable facts are all relevant
.

http://www.stardrive.org/Sarmail7-9-01.shtml
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Postby Dreams End » Fri Mar 23, 2007 2:59 pm

Bascially, either we are part of some elaborate deep cover intelligence
operation of MJ 12 (as some ancient Secret Society extending back at least 1000 years to my alleged ancestor Rashi de Troyes & The First Crusade) extending well over 50 years now, this requires a paranoid conspiratorial frame of mind that not even I, in my most manic moments, give much credence to. Smile OR, it is pretty much as it appears on the surface of Puharich's story that there really is a "Spectra" "conscious computer" on a flying saucer with a "vacuum propeller", that it has time travel to the past capability using Star Gates in the Salam G*eometrodynamic field and that, I, you, and the others are being used
as an advance contact team for technology transfer from them to us. This may be part of a globally self-consistent loop in time with alternative timelines.


For a physicist, he sure uses crappy logic. I can think of another explanation...in fact that's all I have been doing recently.

anyone have any confirmation that Firmage had "contact" with Spectra? I know he had some sort of experience but I could never find a description of it.
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What?!

Postby LilyPatToo » Fri Mar 23, 2007 6:04 pm

avalon said,
LPT, I'll only admit to having a jack in my Third Eye that sucks Google right out of the air.

No fair! After all my years of worshipping the very name of William Gibson, *I* should have been the first to receive one of those cyber-thingees :roll: :wink:

DE, that's interesting about Firmage--I somehow got onto his mailing list several years back and tried in vain to find out upon what his paranormal agenda was based. Also, that quote above included a finish that made my teeth itch --
There is simply too much coincidence here if you look at the Big Picture over the past 50 years and beyond.

So many of the Controllers' "Big Pictures" include "too much coincidence", which they omit to put down to deliberate manipulation (by them, personally, most likely) and ascribe to mystical/paranormal/woo-woo stuff :roll:

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Firmage/Spectra

Postby hanshan » Fri Mar 23, 2007 6:32 pm

DE -

herewith -

CEO Quits Job Over UFO Views
Advances in technology a gift of aliens,
Silicon Valley pioneer believes


1/9/99

Joe Firmage -- the Fox Mulder of Silicon Valley --
resigned yesterday from the firm he founded so he
could promote his belief that many of today's high-tech
advancements, including semiconductors, fiber optics
and lasers, came from aliens.


http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/1999/01/09/MN19158.DTL

Firmage has published his many ideas in a 600-page manifesto, titled ``The Truth,'' on his Web site (http://www.thewordistruth.org). ``This is certainly the most important news event in 2,000 years,'' he said.


before re-inventing the wheel re: Streiber, alien abduction/MC,
etal,read Stephen Greer's Hidden Truth: Forbidden Knowledge.

He seems like an affable bloke, he'll probably correspond
w/ you



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Postby Dreams End » Fri Mar 23, 2007 6:43 pm

I think at some point I read most of "the truth" or whatever was on the website. I had signed up to be a member or whatever but rarely heard anything. I specifically looked for the "encounter" he had but never found it.
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mentalities

Postby hanshan » Fri Mar 23, 2007 6:50 pm

...




Can't see myself slogging through a 600 page
manifesto from another one of those folks
who met an alien & found god. Something
terribly jejune about the whole affair.


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Greer--what is your opinion on him?

Postby LilyPatToo » Sat Mar 24, 2007 5:48 pm

Is there any consensus here about Stephen Greer? I find a lot of his alien contact seeking naive and have wondered if he's knowingly or unwittingly involved in the whole UFO/aliens psy-op?

It's taken me a long,long time to be capable of seeing behind the social engineering/mass mind control UFO crap that's been pushed literally since the year of my birth--1947. And I'm still trying to figure out which of the players are complicit with the Controllers and which are "useful idiots" and which may be having genuinely anomalous experiences.

hanshan, I've tried to find a reasonably priced used copy of his latest book, but so far, such a thing doesn't seem to exist either online or off. I loned my copy of Dolan's "UFOs and the Natl. Security State" to a friend, since I'm short of reading time right now--what is your opinion of it? (that's an open question to the board, too--my reading time is limited and I don't want to waste hours and hours on psy-ops propaganda or on disinformation or plain old mistaken/deluded material)

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Postby Dreams End » Sat Mar 24, 2007 7:08 pm

Greer is right in the middle of it. Some of his own "followers" complained that his early group efforts to contact UFO's were rather cultish. But add to that that he comes out of the TM crowd, which also brought us John Gray and that Danny Sheehan plays lawyer for: Disclosure Project, TM (or at least Natural Law Party), John Mack, etc you start to get the idea.
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Postby Dreams End » Sat Mar 24, 2007 7:16 pm

Greer is right in the middle of it. Some of his own "followers" complained that his early group efforts to contact UFO's were rather cultish. But add to that that he comes out of the TM crowd, which also brought us John Gray and that Danny Sheehan plays lawyer for: Disclosure Project, TM (or at least Natural Law Party), John Mack, etc you start to get the idea.
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Postby 11:11 » Sat Mar 24, 2007 8:06 pm

How the hell did Danny Sheehan, who did such great work on Iran-Contra, get involved in this looniness?
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Postby Username » Sat Mar 24, 2007 8:34 pm

LillyPat,

DE said:

LPT, you help discredit survivors by backing OSR. All that Jew bashing...that's not even some new insight...that's simply the same crap that's been put out since Hitler.

OSR does have information...



LPT, you help discredit yourself again and are sending survivors down yet another rathole by backing DE.

DE does have information and as interested as I am in the topic, his blog would be the last place I would go for insight or healing, mainly because of his arrogance and self-serving nature. You've been here long enough to know this.

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