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by N8wide » Mon Oct 03, 2011 1:32 pm
norton ash wrote:N8wide wrote:Remember the American Dream?
Careful who you promote here, N8wide Infidel.
From the website's 'good guys' page at:
http://www.theamericandreamfilm.com/the-good-guys.php
Ron Paul
The Drudge Report
Cato Institute
Freedom Watch
And more right wingers, wingers, wingers!
by barracuda » Mon Oct 03, 2011 1:43 pm
There comes a point in mankind when you have to look at yourself as a person and not a machine. Are you a thoughtless machine who only looks out for your own and what will make you the most money? Or are you a compassionate human being who understands no matter our differences, we are in this together. This is about mankind taking it to the next level. We either move forward and let the people come together for the greater good. Or we continue down the road we are going and the corporate elite will own you with debt and physically rape mother earth for all of its resources, sell it for profit and leave a barren wasteland for future generations. Basically it's like this, the people want a refund. Capitalism does not work when you have the amount of legal corruption in Washington. Isn't an earmark a synonym for "bribe"? You have dictated the people long enough with your "fine print". The actual wealth of the US dollar is falling apart with trillions being flooded in to the system. The Federal Reserve prints money out of thin air with Quantitative Easing. And who does it go to? The 1%. In my world the money is reset every one hundred years. Redistributed back to the people. No more hoarding, no matter who has it. We are all equals and no one man should acquire that much wealth, in our world a form of power. Especially the soulless corporations. There can be greed no more, this is killing modern day society as we know it. You have forced the people to rise up. We must continue the quest for knowledge and peace. And the only way that will ever happen is if the ultra rich give back the money to the people. We must have FDR's Second Bill of Rights enacted. To protect the well being of all. We must end lobbying in Washington. We must audit the Federal Reserve. No private bank should have the amount of power they do. We must stop voting for the rich because of their lying ads on TV, we must vote for the intelligent and morally sound individuals by having all candidates take a test with public results. We must put in to place rules and regulation to stop corruption in media.
by Laodicean » Mon Oct 03, 2011 1:48 pm
by N8wide » Mon Oct 03, 2011 1:58 pm
Laodicean wrote:
Pwnd.
Exclusive: Occupy Wall Street Activist Slams Fox News Producer In Un-Aired Interview
by Bruce Dazzling » Mon Oct 03, 2011 2:12 pm
by Elihu » Mon Oct 03, 2011 2:14 pm
first of all, i didn't and haven't watched the rothschild cartoon...adv norton ashQuoting from a good cartoon to defend a bad one?
might be a legitimate concern unable to assess. unless i resort to character association. more homework than i am able to do at the moment.Even the telling still from the cartoon featuring Nathan Rothschild in front of a double eagle tells me we're heading for LaRouche country,
right wing left wing. are there stores that sell the proper labels?Ron Paul
The Drudge Report
Cato Institute
Freedom Watch
And more right wingers, wingers, wingers!
seems there's some jockeying going on as to what the acceptable parameters of the "movementarianism" will be. edited to disassociate the quote from jr personallyJust once, can't we talk about the banksters and economic justice without needing to deal with Paul cultists, goldbugs, Rothschilds, etc.? (The Federal Reserve is a captive institution of Wall Street capital. It's their limitless piggy bank. I don't want to end it, I want to nationalize it and see the creation of a public-sector banking system at the state and national level.)
just probing the boundaries. forgive me for being concerned about about the truckload of benevolence the victorious revolutionaries are so eager to dump on society. is that counter-revolutionary thought crime?norton ash wrote:Careful who you promote here,
still looking for the boundaries but i found the bar.Piss off, goldbug.
ye shall know the tree by its fruit.and N8wide may not be an innocent newbie.
In focusing on the protests, it should be noted that they are not monolithic and include at least some who understand that the nexus of the problem is much larger than Wall Street, even though Wall Street is PART of the problem. But targeting Wall Street, essentially a transactional mechanism, is not only easy, it is convenient for the powers-that-be who operate Wall Street and do not want their OWN roles revealed.
Who are these powers? We write about them all the time, along with others in the alternative media. They are basically the Anglosphere's great central banking families and their political, religious, corporate and military enablers. These entities and individuals have fought for over a century to ensure their central-banking led economy is not challenged and that blame for its genocidal destruction is continually aimed at the private sector – Wall Street, capitalism, etc. They have gotten away with it until now. But the tides of history are shifting.....The notion of regulatory capture – how large companies use regulation to stifle competition and build bastardized monopolies – has become far more widespread.
The term Money Power, so popular in the 1900s, has made a comeback in the 21st century. Where it was once whispered in fear, it is now a more common part of the vocabulary of those who seek to explain the genocidal dysfunction of the West, its endless wars and impoverishment and how these elements are perpetuated and elaborated.
Price fixing, as any Western economist will tell you, doesn't work, and central banks fix the price of money every hour, every minute. The result is a murderous system that demands most of the world's billions live on something like a dollar a day, struggling to survive and watching their children subside into hopelessness and starvation.
By design! With malice aforethought! The elites believe there are too many people on the planet and that culling is their responsibility. This is not an idle supposition. They write about it all the time. Google "Bilderbergs" or Club of Rome" and "population control" and see for yourself. History is not a tableau of "great men" acting on their instincts and intellect. The modern era has been one of directed history in which the great Anglo-American central banking families have used so-called leaders like puppets putting to work their vast money power to organize every aspect of history and culture for centralization and control.
Churchill, Stalin, Mao, Roosevelt – evidence increasingly emerging on the Internet shows that these individuals were picked for their roles and placed in their positions of power with malicious care. Was any of what occurred in the 20th century accidental? Or were the building blocks of world government set in place by shadowy men who never, ever revealed their carefully accumulated influence?
The goal, it seems, remains what it was – one government, one central bank, one army and one judicial system. The power over the globe and its peoples implied by this unspeakable vision, if one is wiling to accept and internalize it, is almost infinitely destructive. The concept reeks of genocide; its message, advertised by signage such as the Georgia Guidestones, is powered by the agony of billions.
It is an evil concept, a Satanic perspective pursued by an intergenerational familial elite that has been implementing this latest global conspiracy for maybe 300 years. The 20th century represented the apex of this effort, when mainstream religious, military and media dominance was at its height, and mind control and elite promotions were unchallengeable.
Of course, Wall Street is PART of the problem, but it's a much larger problem, and Wall Street is ultimately, for the most part, a transactional mechanism. The issues of failing Western regulatory democracies and their eroding money stuff cannot simply be laid at the feet of the securities business, no matter how powerful it seems. The real controllers are to be seen elsewhere.
In the past these controllers have been able to effectively disguise their presence and influence. They do it by misdirection and by using money power to blame the private sector for the depredations of the West's central banking economy. The mainstream media is extremely important to this effort and Kuttner is puzzled that the system has misfired.
By now the "masses" were supposed to have been furious at Wall Street, he implies. President Barack Obama was supposed to be able to use this fury to establish himself as rightful heir to Franklin Delano Roosevelt. A whole spectrum of increasingly authoritarian measures were supposed to have been rammed through by a Congress alight with indignation over the "banksters'" depredations.
But In the era of the Internet Reformation, all this is hard to accomplish. There is too much contradictory information available and too many voices that are not scripted (see other article, this issue). Instead of being able to direct indignation at the private sector, the Anglosphere power elite is staggering, trying its best to resuscitate the "blame Wall Street" meme, which has not yet delivered the hoped-for results.
Now Occupy Wall Street – evidently and obviously a dialectical enterprise funded by these same elites (at least in part) – is giving them a moment of hope. Kuttner himself is upbeat as he joins with his chosen task. "Wall Street protestors have plenty to be angry about," he writes. "In many ways, these demonstrations have a lot in common with events around the globe, from the protests that toppled dictators in Egypt and Libya to the spontaneous street protests in Tel Aviv, Madrid, and Athens."
In fact, this is another meme, given that the "youth protesters," inspired and funded by AYM were at least in part an American intelligence operation. Look closely and the pattern of directed history becomes evident. Not for Kuttner, though.
by wordspeak2 » Mon Oct 03, 2011 2:20 pm
by Elihu » Mon Oct 03, 2011 2:47 pm
by norton ash » Mon Oct 03, 2011 3:06 pm
by N8wide » Mon Oct 03, 2011 3:10 pm
...and N8wide may not be an innocent newbie.
by N8wide » Mon Oct 03, 2011 3:14 pm
norton ash wrote:I support Occupy WS like mad. Speaking of mad, I apologize for being hard kneejerk and impolite earlier about seeing old right-wing crypto-dominionist thinking that toes the hate line popping up.
by Luther Blissett » Mon Oct 03, 2011 3:19 pm
Elihu wrote:http://thedailybell.com/3021/Daily-Bell-Helps-Blow-Up-Wall-Street-Protest-Via-Drudge-Prison-Planet-and-GoogleIn focusing on the protests, it should be noted that they are not monolithic and include at least some who understand that the nexus of the problem is much larger than Wall Street, even though Wall Street is PART of the problem. But targeting Wall Street, essentially a transactional mechanism, is not only easy, it is convenient for the powers-that-be who operate Wall Street and do not want their OWN roles revealed.
Who are these powers? We write about them all the time, along with others in the alternative media. They are basically the Anglosphere's great central banking families and their political, religious, corporate and military enablers. These entities and individuals have fought for over a century to ensure their central-banking led economy is not challenged and that blame for its genocidal destruction is continually aimed at the private sector – Wall Street, capitalism, etc. They have gotten away with it until now. But the tides of history are shifting.....The notion of regulatory capture – how large companies use regulation to stifle competition and build bastardized monopolies – has become far more widespread.
The term Money Power, so popular in the 1900s, has made a comeback in the 21st century. Where it was once whispered in fear, it is now a more common part of the vocabulary of those who seek to explain the genocidal dysfunction of the West, its endless wars and impoverishment and how these elements are perpetuated and elaborated.
Price fixing, as any Western economist will tell you, doesn't work, and central banks fix the price of money every hour, every minute. The result is a murderous system that demands most of the world's billions live on something like a dollar a day, struggling to survive and watching their children subside into hopelessness and starvation.
By design! With malice aforethought! The elites believe there are too many people on the planet and that culling is their responsibility. This is not an idle supposition. They write about it all the time. Google "Bilderbergs" or Club of Rome" and "population control" and see for yourself. History is not a tableau of "great men" acting on their instincts and intellect. The modern era has been one of directed history in which the great Anglo-American central banking families have used so-called leaders like puppets putting to work their vast money power to organize every aspect of history and culture for centralization and control.
Churchill, Stalin, Mao, Roosevelt – evidence increasingly emerging on the Internet shows that these individuals were picked for their roles and placed in their positions of power with malicious care. Was any of what occurred in the 20th century accidental? Or were the building blocks of world government set in place by shadowy men who never, ever revealed their carefully accumulated influence?
The goal, it seems, remains what it was – one government, one central bank, one army and one judicial system. The power over the globe and its peoples implied by this unspeakable vision, if one is wiling to accept and internalize it, is almost infinitely destructive. The concept reeks of genocide; its message, advertised by signage such as the Georgia Guidestones, is powered by the agony of billions.
It is an evil concept, a Satanic perspective pursued by an intergenerational familial elite that has been implementing this latest global conspiracy for maybe 300 years. The 20th century represented the apex of this effort, when mainstream religious, military and media dominance was at its height, and mind control and elite promotions were unchallengeable.
http://thedailybell.com/3022/Breathing- ... treet-MemeOf course, Wall Street is PART of the problem, but it's a much larger problem, and Wall Street is ultimately, for the most part, a transactional mechanism. The issues of failing Western regulatory democracies and their eroding money stuff cannot simply be laid at the feet of the securities business, no matter how powerful it seems. The real controllers are to be seen elsewhere.
In the past these controllers have been able to effectively disguise their presence and influence. They do it by misdirection and by using money power to blame the private sector for the depredations of the West's central banking economy. The mainstream media is extremely important to this effort and Kuttner is puzzled that the system has misfired.
By now the "masses" were supposed to have been furious at Wall Street, he implies. President Barack Obama was supposed to be able to use this fury to establish himself as rightful heir to Franklin Delano Roosevelt. A whole spectrum of increasingly authoritarian measures were supposed to have been rammed through by a Congress alight with indignation over the "banksters'" depredations.
But In the era of the Internet Reformation, all this is hard to accomplish. There is too much contradictory information available and too many voices that are not scripted (see other article, this issue). Instead of being able to direct indignation at the private sector, the Anglosphere power elite is staggering, trying its best to resuscitate the "blame Wall Street" meme, which has not yet delivered the hoped-for results.
Now Occupy Wall Street – evidently and obviously a dialectical enterprise funded by these same elites (at least in part) – is giving them a moment of hope. Kuttner himself is upbeat as he joins with his chosen task. "Wall Street protestors have plenty to be angry about," he writes. "In many ways, these demonstrations have a lot in common with events around the globe, from the protests that toppled dictators in Egypt and Libya to the spontaneous street protests in Tel Aviv, Madrid, and Athens."
In fact, this is another meme, given that the "youth protesters," inspired and funded by AYM were at least in part an American intelligence operation. Look closely and the pattern of directed history becomes evident. Not for Kuttner, though.
by Elihu » Mon Oct 03, 2011 3:21 pm
i could/should show a little more team spirit.I support Occupy WS like mad.
i out-did you with my response and that doesn't make me feel good. i apologize as well.I apologize for being hard kneejerk and impolite earlier
i should know whole-post content before jumping in, something i failed to do. spilled electrons are on me.about seeing old right-wing crypto-dominionist thinking that toes the hate line popping up.
by Elihu » Mon Oct 03, 2011 3:25 pm
Luther Blissett wrote:Oi vey. Getting populist backing for an ephemeral subject that some of us here might "know" about would be a damn-near impossible task in 2011. I know what these pieces mean, but let's start "small" (i.e. an already insurmountable, ill-defined task) with the transactional processes, shall we?
by Luther Blissett » Mon Oct 03, 2011 3:36 pm
Elihu wrote:Luther Blissett wrote:Oi vey. Getting populist backing for an ephemeral subject that some of us here might "know" about would be a damn-near impossible task in 2011. I know what these pieces mean, but let's start "small" (i.e. an already insurmountable, ill-defined task) with the transactional processes, shall we?
AGREED. points made and taken. gasbag retiring from the field. apologies to real live OWS participants. Godspeed.
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