How to Overthrow the Illuminati

[American Dream]

If I post articles of more than a paragraph, it is because I assume that the reader can scan the material and skip what is uninteresting to them. Isn't that what most posters here do? So why single out me in particular for your admonitions?

Admonition is warning. Was that a warning to you?

As, to my signature line- it does speak volumes about my philosophy, and here it is:

"If you don't stand for something, you will fall for anything."
-Malcolm X

You mean this? This speaks volumes about your philosophy?

Here is the first definition I found:

ad·mo·ni·tion
ˌadməˈniSHən/
noun
1.an act or action of admonishing; authoritative counsel or warning.

And yes, I do believe that Malcom X uttered a profound truth when he said: "If you don't stand for something, you will fall for anything."

[minime]

Might I suggest you just read one, Minime?

You will find that generally speaking, the exact same emphasis and information is contained within virtually all of em.

As posted above, I said I stopped, therefore I started. That I have stopped, to the extent that there is relevant information offered, which must sometimes be the case, I am diminished, and therefore AD as well. AD has the option of heeding my advice or no. So be it.

In that case you have read all the lyrics to the same song. Its been hashed over and grappled with for the last six years or so by those who think that there probably is some form of illuminati, along with those who know that David Icke clearly isnt insane, or a "madman", or racist or any of the rest of it, and in fact might be worth listening to now and and again

No need to be rancorous.

The issue in question had to do with the kind of 'communist' that AD is, or something similar, and what he is or might be doing personally and politically in accord with that. And how to express that in such a way that others will see it clearly.

[brainpanhandler]

This whole denial of an illuminati or illuminati-like structure (or whatever they are called) is so fervent amongst the deniers (and the lengths they go to to mock and quash discussion of) that it reminds me of the many dominoes to have toppled recently - wikileaks, manning, snowden, the activities of the nsa to name but a few - it feels like we're all edging closer to some seriously liberating yet disturbing stuff. I still maintain wikileaks and greenwald have stuff that the public just isn't ready for yet. Here's hoping.

Have you made an honest assessment of how Illuminati Theory is such a refuge for scoundrels and flimflam artists, conveyers of disinformation, right wing wackos and racists, etc. etc.?

Because it should be clear that there's something rotten going on...

I would be curious to see a poll of the membership.

[seemslikeadream]

Might I suggest you just read one, Minime?

You will find that generally speaking, the exact same emphasis and information is contained within virtually all of em.

As posted above, I said I stopped, therefore I started. That I have stopped, to the extent that there is relevant information offered, which must sometimes be the case, I am diminished, and therefore AD as well. AD has the option of heeding my advice or no. So be it.

In that case you have read all the lyrics to the same song. Its been hashed over and grappled with for the last six years or so by those who think that there probably is some form of illuminati, along with those who know that David Icke clearly isnt insane, or a "madman", or racist or any of the rest of it, and in fact might be worth listening to now and and again

No need to be rancorous.

The issue in question had to do with the kind of 'communist' that AD is, or something similar, and what he is or might be doing personally and politically in accord with that. And how to express that in such a way that others will see it clearly.

Yes indeed there is a need to be rancorous if you had been posting here for as long as we have and had to deal with this crap day in and day out for over 6 years now..it tends to be very a very pissy subject..and we have every right to be resentful ...you've only started posting here get back to us after 6 years if you can take it for that long....you may feel differently or not be here at all

[minime]

"And yes, I do believe that Malcom X uttered a profound truth when he said: "If you don't stand for something, you will fall for anything.'"

I am not interested in Malcolm X's profound truths, I am interested in a clear exposition of your philosophy. Going back to Sounder's critique...

Do you believe this statement above (of Malcolm X) would make it clear to Sounder that you are a communist with a small c, or whatever...?

[seemslikeadream]

"And yes, I do believe that Malcom X uttered a profound truth when he said: "If you don't stand for something, you will fall for anything.'"

I am not interested in Malcolm X's profound truths, I am interested in a clear exposition of your philosophy. Going back to Sounder's critique...

Do you believe this statement above (of Malcolm X) would make it clear to Sounder that you are a communist with a small c?

That's his little hideout statement ....just like his mega thread

[American Dream]

Might I suggest you just read one, Minime?

You will find that generally speaking, the exact same emphasis and information is contained within virtually all of em.

As posted above, I said I stopped, therefore I started. That I have stopped, to the extent that there is relevant information offered, which must sometimes be the case, I am diminished, and therefore AD as well. AD has the option of heeding my advice or no. So be it.

In that case you have read all the lyrics to the same song. Its been hashed over and grappled with for the last six years or so by those who think that there probably is some form of illuminati, along with those who know that David Icke clearly isnt insane, or a "madman", or racist or any of the rest of it, and in fact might be worth listening to now and and again

No need to be rancorous.

The issue in question had to do with the kind of 'communist' that AD is, or something similar, and what he is or might be doing personally and politically in accord with that. And how to express that in such a way that others will see it clearly.

If you wanted some labels you could do some research on Class Struggle Anarchism, Anarcho-Syndicalism and things like that. However I warn you- I never stand still- am constantly studying and thinking about things, so it's all a work in progress!

I am a big, big critic of authoritarian/top down regimes and while I do think there are needs for collective decision-making and structure, I am not at all big on the State as it currently exists...

[seemslikeadream]

This whole denial of an illuminati or illuminati-like structure (or whatever they are called) is so fervent amongst the deniers (and the lengths they go to to mock and quash discussion of) that it reminds me of the many dominoes to have toppled recently - wikileaks, manning, snowden, the activities of the nsa to name but a few - it feels like we're all edging closer to some seriously liberating yet disturbing stuff. I still maintain wikileaks and greenwald have stuff that the public just isn't ready for yet. Here's hoping.

Have you made an honest assessment of how Illuminati Theory is such a refuge for scoundrels and flimflam artists, conveyers of disinformation, right wing wackos and racists, etc. etc.?

Because it should be clear that there's something rotten going on...

I would be curious to see a poll of the membership.

yeah I would too....I believe it would be overwhelming that no one really cares ...and they wished it wouldn't be shoved in their faces every day here

[American Dream]

Do you believe this statement above (of Malcolm X) would make it clear to Sounder that you are a communist with a small c, or whatever...?

No- I pointed you towards Class Struggle Anarchism and Anarcho-Syndicalism anyway, but as indicated previously I think the 160 pages of Economic Aspects of "Love" should be pretty useful to a thinking person...

[seemslikeadream]

yeah right we all feel the AD love around here

[American Dream]

yeah right we all feel the AD love around here

Do you have even the remotest clue as to what the title means?

[seemslikeadream]

Do you even have the remotest clue as to why I couldn't care less

you've poisoned the well for me AD..and I say proudly I don't know what the fuck is in your mega thread either

[coffin_dodger]

Isn't the "thinking about a subject" which you claim to want to do inclusive of making "an honest assessment of how Illuminati Theory is such a refuge for scoundrels and flimflam artists, conveyers of disinformation, right wing wackos and racists, etc. etc."?

Let me assure you AD, I am capable of thinking. No condescending, belittling 'claim' thereof required - thanks.

I have made an (independant of you and taking into account your copypasta) "honest assessment of how Illuminati Theory is such a refuge for scoundrels and flimflam artists, conveyers of disinformation, right wing wackos and racists" and come to the conclusion that the theory warrants further investigation.

Discounting a theory per se because it has attracted 'unsavoury elements' - ordained as such by the current paradigm System - is not an option for me. I'm looking for a way out of this waking nightmare that our societies are careening towards - and I'll take, and look into, any lead I can, regardless of whether you spam any discussion of it with copy and paste vitriolic shit.

[American Dream]

Do you even have the remotest clue as to why I couldn't care less

you've poisoned the well for me AD

I can't take responsibility for that, slad- someone else clearly poisoned the well long before you ever heard of me...

[American Dream]

Isn't the "thinking about a subject" which you claim to want to do inclusive of making "an honest assessment of how Illuminati Theory is such a refuge for scoundrels and flimflam artists, conveyers of disinformation, right wing wackos and racists, etc. etc."?

Let me assure you AD, I am capable of thinking. No condescending, belittling 'claim' thereof required - thanks.

I have made an (independant of you and taking into account your copypasta) "honest assessment of how Illuminati Theory is such a refuge for scoundrels and flimflam artists, conveyers of disinformation, right wing wackos and racists" and come to the conclusion that the theory warrants further investigation.

Discounting a theory per se because it has attracted 'unsavoury elements' - ordained as such by the current paradigm System - is not an option for me. I'm looking for a way out of this waking nightmare that our societies are careening towards - and I'll take, and look into, any lead I can, regardless of whether you spam any discussion of it with copy and paste vitriolic shit.

OK coffin_dodger, you sure seem to me as a person whose biases are very strong around these issues- up to and including your last post- but since you say this is not true- that you truly are an open-minded person, then my sincere apologies for misreading your intentions...