DE refuses to admit he got played.

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Postby seemslikeadream » Fri Jan 04, 2008 11:45 pm

I told him

I do not like you
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Postby Jeff » Fri Jan 04, 2008 11:47 pm

theeKultleeder wrote:Hey, Jeff's only pessimistic, not negative! But to read his blog you'd think he suffers from depression. (Hi Jeff :wink: )


I don't suffer from it, but sometimes I'm afraid I revel in it. :)

If I ever write a self-help book, and I never will, a good title would be The Happy Pessimist.
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Postby theeKultleeder » Sat Jan 05, 2008 12:15 am

seemslikeadream wrote:I told him

I do not like you


seemslikedreamsend


Huh? Hah? Huh?
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Postby wintler2 » Sat Jan 05, 2008 12:23 am

To give DE his due, he played me and others on a routine basis, alternately supplying honest enquiry and ridiculous certainty wrapped in thousands of words to read that said precisely nothing.
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Postby theeKultleeder » Sat Jan 05, 2008 12:35 am

wintler2 wrote:I value the pessimistic mindset but resent the pessimist label, too often its said as an allegation of failure to succeed, thrown by those still living in happy-think and benefiting from imperialisms megadeath. Can't borrow as much money as you? No wonder i'm such a whiner/pessimist.


Optimism IS NOT "happy-think." Optimism leads to solutions and also trusting your fellow human beings when you can.

Pessimism, on the the hand, is exemplified by the kid who never got a date because the girl was sure to say "no" or worse.

Pessimism leads to materialism, because "there is nothing better." Pessimism leads to fascism because "people are self-interested beasts." Pessimism leads to the grave; optimism leads to beyond the grave.

Pessimism is selfish. Optimism is at least less selfish.

"Realistic optimism" is a viewpoint that acknowledges how things suck so bad, but doesn't give up on the possibilities for something better. "Cautious pessimism" (sorry) is a viewpoint that wants to hang on to the good, but can't see any future for the good.


Promote the good. Understand the bad. Grow one, weed out the other.

Simplicity in complexity.
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Postby NavnDansk » Sun Jan 06, 2008 11:46 am

I hope Dream's End is doing well and can regain the dream that so many of us lost when JFK RFK and MLK were murdered.

Anyone can be fooled by gameplayers, I have been and know the addiction that is probably caused by continuing to try to get back what a satanic trickster has stolen from you but it is best to grit your teeth, turn away and leave them to heaven and concentrate on anything else, even TV if all else fails :) until you have broken the addiction.

DE started out writing his blog using interesting paintings and movie ads to cleanly and clearly write about the unimaginable horror not just of child sexual abuse but the satanic ritual abuse to help others.

You need a great deal of spiritual protection when you look at evil and need to force yourself to take breaks for either recreation or spiritual practices like prayer, reading or listening to hymns, reading the Bible, looking at beautiful paintings with a spiritual message.

To have someone play a structured game misusing someone's emotions and trust is one of the vilest things you can do.

Just before Judas betrayed Jesus, Jesus warned him that "It were better for that man if he had never been born." which is stronger than Jesus saying about anyone who offends (abuses) a child that the fate of the person doing it - "Would have a millstone around his neck and be drowned in the sea because the angels of children do always behold God's face."

Brownzed will one way or another regret his serving the dark side, God will be the Judge.

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Postby brownzeroed » Sun Jan 06, 2008 12:16 pm

Satanic trickster?

If I don't believe in God, why would I worship his nemesis?
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Postby theeKultleeder » Sun Jan 06, 2008 12:36 pm

The larger lesson here is exactly NOT about a satanic conspiracy. It is exactly about the LACK of one.

Chew on that a little bit, I won't be any clearer because I don't like talking about other people.
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Postby Wombaticus Rex » Sun Jan 06, 2008 12:46 pm

brownzeroed wrote:Satanic trickster?

If I don't believe in God, why would I worship his nemesis?


Not worship, it's just acknowledging the parallels in concepts. "Trickster" is a lot more broad than anything St. Paul cursed us with. All cultures got 'em, all psyches need 'em.
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Postby bks » Sun Jan 06, 2008 12:49 pm

For the record, TLK: "realistic optimism" is a bit of an oxymoron. Even Marty Seligman understands that.

In "Learned Optimism", he recounted an experiment where optimists and pessimists were put in a room with a light switch. They had varying degress of control over the lighting in the room, but did not know how much. [this is from memory, so please confirm the details]

Optimists invariably believed they had more control over the switch than they actually had. Pessimists, on the other hand, reported accurately the precise amount of control they actually had.

Seligman's verdict was something like 'Optimists live longer, have better career success, and are happier and healthier than pessimists. The only area where pessimism is prefereable to optimism is in grasping reality'.

I thought that was fairly telling.
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Postby theeKultleeder » Sun Jan 06, 2008 12:55 pm

bks wrote:For the record, TLK: "realistic optimism" is a bit of an oxymoron. Even Marty Seligman understands that.

In "Learned Optimism", he recounted an experiment where optimists and pessimists were put in a room with a light switch. They had varying degress of control over the lighting in the room, but did not know how much. [this is from memory, so please confirm the details]

Optimists invariably believed they had more control over the switch than they actually had. Pessimists, on the other hand, reported accurately the precise amount of control they actually had.

Seligman's verdict was something like 'Optimists live longer, have better career success, and are happier and healthier than pessimists. The only area where pessimism is prefereable to optimism is in grasping reality'.

I thought that was fairly telling.
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Well, if "optimism" were a titanically solid thing in the world with an immortal essence, "realistic optimism" would be an oxymoron.

But there is not and has never been any titanically solid thing in the real world with an immortal essence, so the words "realistic" and "optimism" mean exactly what they mean.

Odd how "Seligman's verdict" is kind of pessimistic itself: "yeah, optimists have better lives, but they don't grasp reality..."
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