Will the Real Whitley Strieber Please Stand Up?

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Re: Will the Real Whitley Strieber Please Stand Up?

Postby Simulist » Mon Mar 26, 2012 7:56 pm

Will the Real Whitley Strieber Please Stand Up?

I think the real Whitley Strieber did stand up.

And, as far as I am concerned, he can sit back down.
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Re: Will the Real Whitley Strieber Please Stand Up?

Postby guruilla » Mon Mar 26, 2012 9:45 pm

elfismiles wrote:Oh yeah, he was also Jason Wynd:

We're a multiple.
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Re: Will the Real Whitley Strieber Please Stand Up?

Postby elfismiles » Thu Mar 14, 2013 10:19 am

What, No Aliens? Manufactured Narratives, Imaginal Beings, & Strieber’s Necessary Fantasy?
By jasunhorusly March 12, 2013
http://auticulture.wordpress.com/2013/0 ... y-fantasy/

“Whitley Strieber & the Paradigm of Doom”
by Dreams End
http://auticulture.com/wp-content/uploa ... f-Doom.pdf

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The Kephas-Strieber-Mother-Strangled Inner-Outer Connections
http://auticulture.wordpress.com/2013/0 ... nnections/

Kephas & the Pit: As Within, So Without
http://auticulture.wordpress.com/2013/0 ... o-without/

The Whitley Enigma: Many Voices, One Song
http://auticulture.wordpress.com/2013/0 ... -one-song/

Here We Go Down the Strieber Rabbit Hole Again!
http://auticulture.wordpress.com/2013/0 ... ole-again/

Strieber, the Mother-Strangled Boys, and the Real Alchemical Path
http://auticulture.wordpress.com/2013/0 ... ical-path/

Autism & the Other (Perceptual Warfare) Full PDF
http://auticulture.wordpress.com/2013/0 ... -download/
http://auticulture.com/wp-content/uploa ... -Other.pdf

hidden experience: extremely odd nameless website
http://hiddenexperience.blogspot.com/20 ... bsite.html

STRANGLED (Podcasts and Notes on Strieber and THE KEY)
http://mother.strangled.info
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Re: Will the Real Whitley Strieber Please Stand Up?

Postby LilyPatToo » Thu Mar 14, 2013 1:10 pm

Elfi, you have outdone yourself! Now all I need is enough time to read those fascinating links. Thank you! :yay

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Re: Will the Real Whitley Strieber Please Stand Up?

Postby elfismiles » Thu Mar 14, 2013 1:35 pm

LilyPatToo wrote:Elfi, you have outdone yourself! Now all I need is enough time to read those fascinating links. Thank you! :yay

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Your welcome LilyPat.

I'm constantly playing catchup myself.
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Re: Will the Real Whitley Strieber Please Stand Up?

Postby NeonLX » Thu Mar 14, 2013 3:49 pm

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Re: Will the Real Whitley Strieber Please Stand Up?

Postby guruilla » Fri Mar 15, 2013 1:52 pm

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Re: Will the Real Whitley Strieber Please Stand Up?

Postby elfismiles » Fri Mar 15, 2013 4:44 pm

Wow J. That's quite provocative, pedo jimmy saville speaking a mckenna quote from in front of crowley's lam. not sure how I feel about that.

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Re: Will the Real Whitley Strieber Please Stand Up?

Postby LilyPatToo » Sat Mar 16, 2013 1:31 pm

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(But what a striking image/statement!)

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Re: Will the Real Whitley Strieber Please Stand Up?

Postby Jerky » Sun Mar 17, 2013 1:56 am

Another LUCID VIEW fan checking in here. Thanks for the article, and please post more like it! I greatly enjoyed both it and your book.

Is a sequel on the way?

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Re: Will the Real Whitley Strieber Please Stand Up?

Postby guruilla » Sun Mar 17, 2013 3:13 pm

Hi elfismiles - yeah, I'm not sure how I feel about it either.

It should probably have come with a trigger warning.

I'm working on a piece that will make the connection in a less cavalier and much more nuanced way. When I did the image you could say I was seized by a diabolic impulse.

As someone who swallowed Strieber's ectoplasmic effluences whole, and who grew up watching Jimmy Saville on TV (my sister even had his autograph), and who possibly experienced some sort of interference in childhood from something other than aliens, this new bout of research has proved pretty rocky going. . .

I hope the image hasn't unduly upset anyone.

Jerky: There's already a sequel to Lucid View, Homo Serpiens. I can't recommended it with a clear conscience, however, since it draws freely (and even builds on) on Strieber's work and other sources which I am currently checking for maggots.
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Re: Will the Real Whitley Strieber Please Stand Up?

Postby guruilla » Sun Mar 17, 2013 11:25 pm



For the record, this long essay was initially seeded right here at RI, when I wrote about mis-information movies & autism in relation to We Need to Talk About Kevin, here
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Re: Will the Real Whitley Strieber Please Stand Up?

Postby Crow » Sun Mar 17, 2013 11:32 pm

guruilla wrote:Hi elfismiles - yeah, I'm not sure how I feel about it either.

It should probably have come with a trigger warning.

I'm working on a piece that will make the connection in a less cavalier and much more nuanced way. When I did the image you could say I was seized by a diabolic impulse.

As someone who swallowed Strieber's ectoplasmic effluences whole, and who grew up watching Jimmy Saville on TV (my sister even had his autograph), and who possibly experienced some sort of interference in childhood from something other than aliens, this new bout of research has proved pretty rocky going. . .

I hope the image hasn't unduly upset anyone.

Jerky: There's already a sequel to Lucid View, Homo Serpiens. I can't recommended it with a clear conscience, however, since it draws freely (and even builds on) on Strieber's work and other sources which I am currently checking for maggots.


Hi guruilla (and everyone),

I have been working my way through all of your blog posts. Enjoying them greatly. I have also followed Strieber's work for a long time. [I was delighted to see that you gave a signal boost to the old Dream's End articles on Strieber. Those pieces were extremely important to the field in general, and the evolution of thinking on UFOs/mind control/trauma etc. I always thought they were tragically overlooked.]

I have always leaned towards the side of "believing" Strieber's stuff (even though I am pretty hard-line agnostic as a rule) even though bits and pieces of what he says clearly don't stand up, or sound like dreams, or sometimes he'll endorse something that seems flimsy, and it makes me question his discernment, etc. But at the core it feels like there is something there, and I find it fascinating. From reading your blogs it sounds like your relationship with his work has been similarly complicated? But "ectoplasmic effluences" sounds dismissive in a way that you haven't been before. Is it just a one-off comment or have you come to some settled conclusion?
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Re: Will the Real Whitley Strieber Please Stand Up?

Postby guruilla » Mon Mar 18, 2013 12:37 am

Hi Crow
(that was the name of my first website, back in the 1990s)

It wasn't meant to be dismissive - on the contrary. Ectoplasm is all-too real to me.

But I am becoming more disillusioned with Strieber and with the whole "visitors" narrative. There is still something there as you put it (ie something with the whiff of the numinous), but there is so much more there that just really stinks.

I don't think there will ever be a settled conclusion - a mystery is like an onion, you only know you've got to the last skin when you come up empty-handed.

I think when we start to see what's really at the core of this, it will blow our minds forever - way more than an ET invasion (or a plague of pedos) could.

Whitley's dissembling without even knowing it, probably, trying to hold the pieces of this worn-out 50s sci-fi narrative together as if the fate of the world depended on it (maybe it does, but only his world).
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Re: Will the Real Whitley Strieber Please Stand Up?

Postby elfismiles » Mon May 13, 2013 2:52 pm

Hey folks, wanted to drop a note encouraging those of you interested to check out Jasun's latest effort at coming to terms with his own strange experiences and their possible relevance to his ongoing examination of Whitley Strieber and the UFO contact experience.

He's slowly posting a new work (Prisoner of Infinity) over at his new website

www.CrucialFictions.com - A Metaphorensics Laboratory

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He's already posted the first 2 chapters along with galleries of images and some MP3s

May 1, 2013
http://crucialfictions.com/infinity
http://crucialfictions.com/wp-content/u ... Chap-1.pdf
http://crucialfictions.com/wp-content/u ... eating.mp3
http://crucialfictions.com/wp-content/u ... Trauma.mp3
http://crucialfictions.com/heaven-stormers/

May 8th, 2013
http://crucialfictions.com/wp-content/u ... nity-2.pdf
http://crucialfictions.com/wp-content/u ... iminal.mp3
http://crucialfictions.com/wp-content/u ... rieber.mp3
http://crucialfictions.com/intelligent-limbs-gallery/
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