The Synchronicity Thread

[8bitagent]

When I was very young, shortly after the death of the man I thought at the time was my father, I was playing in my backyard sandbox... Normally I'd not be in it very long at a time, but one afternoon I spent hours in the sandbox, totally engrossed in what I was making and had to be pulled out by mom for dinner.
I was making in the sand a model of a part of a city on a ridge spur with a particular kind of institutional campus built on it. I was making all these little roads on the sides of the ridge, the buildings, imagining helicopters and driving cars on the roads, and myself working at this place as an adult. Lots of details. I was very engrossed in this. Well, thirty years later, I work at just such an institution, on a ridge. It's improbable that such a place would even be built in such geography, yet there it is, and there I am. It's also improbable that I would cross the country to end up in the right city. Aspects of my personal life that I'd imagined in the sandbox, have come entirely true as well.

This reminds me of those stories about when they track down identical twins who were raised apart and it turns out that they've married women with the same names, drive the same cars, live in the same kinds of houses, etc.

It makes you wonder just how much free will we actually have.

I'm reading a biography right now of the psychic Annette Martin. Pretty damn fascinating. She seems to be the real deal, and often tells people of things that are going to happen to them in the future, with uncanny accuracy. If our future is preordained, just what choices do we consciously make?

Been thinking about that lately about myself, and my wife, and family and stuff. I always knew, somehow that I would have a blond-haired blue-eyed son. Just knew it, and now I do. Of course it's not a stretch considering that I'm blond haired and blue-eyed ...... but still ....

Sometimes you just know stuff. Sometimes it's good. Often it's not good at all.

Justdrew's sandbox story reminds me of the plot to the new Adam Sandler family comedy film "Bedtime Stories".

And your mentioning of the Twins parable reminds me of some of the more stranger Jeff RI blogs about similar instances/vice versa mirror events.

[8bitagent]

and, btw, people actually say "nine-eleven" when saying "911" re: war on terror and "nine-one-one" when re: the telephone number.

to me, suggesting that the phone number was planted as part of an NWO superplan is where you're getting a bit out there...
even the aliens aren't that smart. that's just paranoid. they hijacked a meme. that's obvious, but superplans seem highly suspicious from where i'm sitting. that doesn't even really count as synchronicity. it was on purpose. after the fact. therefore: doesn't count.

hah.

So whats the deal with the 93 Current?




I'd be inclined to think you are right about 911 being a hijacked meme, but ...

Anyway whats the deal with the 93 current.



BTW

Get up, get, get get down
911 is a joke in yo town
Get up, get, get, get down
Late 911 wears the late crown

The neo folk goth band Current 93 that often tours with Death In June?
Oh, you mean how the Crowleyan numbers 93, 11, and 77 came to be some of the plane numbers. Synchronicity?

I've oftened wondered, just how do the powers that be explain how Mohamed Atta, bin Laden and Khalid Sheikh Mohamed actually decide on September 11th 2001 to be the "big(alchemical)wedding"?

I mean so much coulda gone wrong. A plucky FBI agent could have had one of the hijackers arrested, the CIA could have stopped their monitoring. Their "knives" could have been confiscated. Mohamed Atta coulda missed his plane. So many factors.

Hey, one even has to wonder...where did the idea come to strike the WTC towers and Pentagon, and the use of planes....hmmm

[8bitagent]

Cos 8bit is claiming the numbers 911 function as an attractor.

Now he seems to think the attractor was designed by some archeron that rules earth to our detriment, and in some ways acts like 911 are often carried out by people who are unaware of the occult power of what they are doing. And that ultimately even humans high up the chain of command (so to speak) are unaware of all of the implications of what they do.

That actually is perhaps the best summation of my overall theory of how this stuff works. I realize it's beyond the fringe of the fringe when it comes to theories, especially coming from someone(me) who usually poo poos popular 9/11 theories. And I honestly do not espouse such things to "out fantasy conspiracy" the last person...who can come up with the most outlandish unified theory. It just honestly seems like there's no real
main source of these events on an exoteric level, and all parties involved are genuinely convinced of an agreed upon source(with 9/11, it'd be an all too gleefully willing al Qaeda) Scary thing is, there may not be a provable source of the 9/11 attacks. I personally see no origin that lies within the "neocons", Israel, the US government. Nor al Qaeda.

I don't necessarily agree with all of that, but there are times when I can see how it makes sense and may be an accurate model.

Reading all of Jeff's blogs, I'm not sure there is too many other unified theories...other than "life sure is weird".

So even if the idea was the date was chosen to hijack the emergency number, and reinforce the idea of an emergency, panic and all that, (all of whch is a use of symbols to manipulate emotion, often on a level just below conscious awareness) - that doesn't rule out the possibility that they were incapable of picking any other number cos 911 is an attractor for that sort of thing, and possibly even one chosen by some bloodthirsty egregore that is kind of mindless in its way but just chases after power and control the way some people chase cash and others chase gash.

As GeoGeo points out, the 9 and 11 pairing is a definite pattern(see Coptic Calendar, L Ron 'Frater H' Hubbard and Parson's Babalon Working, ect)

The use of "11" however I feel cannot be an unintended sync at all.
11 shaped towers. Flight 11. 11th of september. 11 years to the day after Bush Sr's NWO speech. Some say in numerology you discount the "0", and the WTC towers were 11(0) stories tall. 11 years prior to 2012.

The Pentagon, 77 feet, struck by Flight 77. 60 years to the day after construction began.

I just cannot see the attacks taking place on 9/12, or 9/13.
And then to have the 3/11 attacks 911 days to the day after. It's just too much.

Or maybe the cosmic giggle has a really dark sense of humor.

Even if the official story were true, its my position that "al Qaeda" are just mindless pawns of a much darker conspiracy as is the US and Western governments.

[Joe Hillshoist]

The neo folk goth band Current 93 that often tours with Death In June?
Oh, you mean how the Crowleyan numbers 93, 11, and 77 came to be some of the plane numbers. Synchronicity?

The industrial apocalyptic neo psych folk band Current 93 chose that name as a specific reference to the 93 current that OP ED and discussed earlier. So thats not synchronous in itself, they chose that name in direct response to Crowley's concept.

I have listened to some of their prolific output over the years, not much really. Its pretty interesting music, especially if you are tripping on shrooms. In that sense their music really fits with what Op Ed is getting at
with "the current is the ongoing attempts of the universe to become more aware of itself. the end is vision."

I know in some sense everything fits that description, but there is an element of will or directed action implied in the current from what I understand. Mind you this is own opinion on some aspects of stuff that seem to coincide with that idea of "the current".

In some ways everything is self aware, but at some point self awareness becomes more interested in pushing the limits of its awareness, and once this process begins is probably the point where it becomes relevent to talk of it in terms of current 93.

Thats my understanding, but I could way off, cos I only really had the concept expliained a few posts back.

Now for flight 93 to have some synchronous relationship with Current 93 it has to have some relevence to the ongoing attempts of the universe to become self aware, or something.

If there is no way to build that relationship then the relevence of Crowley's 93 to flight 93 is non existant. Or the pattern that appears synchronous is in fact not synchronous.

[8bitagent]

The neo folk goth band Current 93 that often tours with Death In June?
Oh, you mean how the Crowleyan numbers 93, 11, and 77 came to be some of the plane numbers. Synchronicity?

The industrial apocalyptic neo psych folk band Current 93 chose that name as a specific reference to the 93 current that OP ED and discussed earlier. So thats not synchronous in itself, they chose that name in direct response to Crowley's concept.

I have listened to some of their prolific output over the years, not much really. Its pretty interesting music, especially if you are tripping on shrooms. In that sense their music really fits with what Op Ed is getting at
with "the current is the ongoing attempts of the universe to become more aware of itself. the end is vision."

I know in some sense everything fits that description, but there is an element of will or directed action implied in the current from what I understand. Mind you this is own opinion on some aspects of stuff that seem to coincide with that idea of "the current".

In some ways everything is self aware, but at some point self awareness becomes more interested in pushing the limits of its awareness, and once this process begins is probably the point where it becomes relevent to talk of it in terms of current 93.

Thats my understanding, but I could way off, cos I only really had the concept expliained a few posts back.

Now for flight 93 to have some synchronous relationship with Current 93 it has to have some relevence to the ongoing attempts of the universe to become self aware, or something.

If there is no way to build that relationship then the relevence of Crowley's 93 to flight 93 is non existant. Or the pattern that appears synchronous is in fact not synchronous.

I actually never knew why David Tibet chose that name til many years later. But since the early 1990's I was always into the "stranger" side of music(Neubauten, Legendary Pink Dots, Coil, ect)

And sometimes I wonder if I really am just a sucker, given I somehow buy into the idea of the passengers revolting on Flight 93. It just seems so poetic. If Crowley said 175 is the power of Venus, 11, 93 and 77 as well had strong symbolism....perhaps Crowley through his Qabbalist numerology musings tapped into something far deeper than some give him credit for.

Though, all this 'current' talk...can't help but think of this little dude....

[Joe Hillshoist]

I loved how the wiki page on current 93 described them, they were in the the categories of british industrial, apocalyptic folk, psych folk, neo folk and maybe evn a few other boxes as well.

But how does flight 93 relate to the universe striving to become aware of itself?

(Of course thats assuming I'm interpreting it right.)

If there is no way of building a relationship that adds meaning to the ritualistic nature of 911, then perhaps its a coincidence but not necessarily a meaningful one. Perhaps everything else fits and thats the one thing that out of synch to make you think.

[8bitagent]

I loved how the wiki page on current 93 described them, they were in the the categories of british industrial, apocalyptic folk, psych folk, neo folk and maybe evn a few other boxes as well.

But how does flight 93 relate to the universe striving to become aware of itself?

(Of course thats assuming I'm interpreting it right.)

If there is no way of building a relationship that adds meaning to the ritualistic nature of 911, then perhaps its a coincidence but not necessarily a meaningful one. Perhaps everything else fits and thats the one thing that out of synch to make you think.

If you check out blogs like Goro Adaichi, Jake Kotze, The Daily Behemoth, The Copycat Effect, SecretSun, DeDroidfly(I think all these cept Goro's is hosted on blogspot) then you enter a world where every event is soaked in esoteric symbolism. Every place, date, number, ect has keyword and esoteric significance.

...also where all these events fit into any given "theme", patterns, memes, ect. If the conspiracy blogs have been talking about honeycombs or frogs or mystical topography...all the sudden all these seemingly disparate events...a man going on an office shooting spree, a major airline crash, a terror attack overseas, an actor dying...these will all somehow be seen in some grand synchronicity unified conspiracy.

It truly is 'reading tea leaves'. Our bodies are programmed to be in tune with the clocks around us as I mentioned, so if certain numbers are on our mind...no matter where we are, we will turn our heads to consciously notice a time. 11:11, 9:11, 3:33, 4:20, 3:22, ect.

Or we may look for patterns we want to see...what some call "reaching".
I notice some sync blogs really go out of there way to find inter connecting patterns for every big news story.

But...sometimes, sometimes...as what *seems* like with 9/11, the
numerical patterns are so redundant, it genuinely seems purposeful.
Not that the jihadist dupes at Kinkos computers could have esoterically picked out flights according to some occult agenda...but still.

To what you said about 93, and what I was saying about these sync conspiracy blogs.... the theme is resonating parables. The blogs were talking about a man committing "suicide by cop" in the same church where a man got killed in the Omen movie. Therefore, the blogs ask
"what is the consciousness or cosmic giggle teaching us, what is it saying?"

So what is the riddle of 93? Many 9/11 truther researchers latch onto odd synchronicities with the passengers of say...flight 77, or flight 93.
As if the passengers had somehow been "chosen" or destined.

The mystery is where was flight 93 headed, and would it have eventually been shot down?(I myself dont think it was shot down)

But I guess youre asking, what is the esoteric meaning of flight 93, if it resonates with the esoteric "93"....9/11 as part of a current.

One might also wonder, is there an esoteric significance to the actual structures of the Twin Towers and the Pentagon?

[Joe Hillshoist]

Not that the jihadist dupes at Kinkos computers could have esoterically picked out flights according to some occult agenda...but still.

There's some pretty sophisticated numerological models and systems in Sufi traditions, so perhaps ... I remember reading some stuff that talked about numbers around sept 11 years ago, and there were some spun out coincidences, some that pointed at the conspiracies we suspect went on behind the scenes, and some that could easily fit a narrative that Osama and his pals were solely responsible for 911, (well not solely, but not total patsies either). Like the number of years since some major attrocity by some crusading christians and that day being 911, or some similar nuttiness.

There was a page of this stuff, one after the other, no coherent narrative to it, and there was no way I was gonna check any or all it for veracity.

Unfortunately it was a defining event, thats why we still waste energy talking about it.

But I guess youre asking, what is the esoteric meaning of flight 93, if it resonates with the esoteric "93"....9/11 as part of a current.

Yeah a specific current. The 93 Current - something Crowley was specific about, well specific enough for it to be known as the 93 current. Obviously it related to whatever significance he gave 93,

I dunno at all but would guess 93 has a nurmerological value equivilent to the word Thelema, and what it refers to, possibly also to Agape, (Con the Fruiterers youngest daughter)

Here's OP EDs take on it, and since he seems to be the most familiar with Thelema its fair enough to assume he has some idea of what the term refers to:

you must understand that i've spent several years coming to my own conclusions on this matter, and they aren't the sort of thing i can drop out in a moment or two. the current is the apocalyptic process itself. the evolutionary clarification of vision reverberating backward from the inevitable event. it usually manifests as side effects, war and sex, or more rarely as actual vision, that is, as art. fortunately, as it is the forging force itself, it is not possible for it to be co-opted.

So thats not a bad description given it dropped out in a moment or two.

So the relationship of flight 93 to that concept has a fair bearing on whether there is a synchromystic (or whatever Jake K calls it) connection between the flight and the so called occult significance of the number 93.

Remeber we are working with numbers associated with Crowley, so for those associations to have a connection to 911 the numbers must resonate with what those numbers meant to him and the systems he worked with.

One might also wonder, is there an esoteric significance to the actual structures of the Twin Towers and the Pentagon?

Yes, and I think there is, on many levels. But those things are structures and symbols from a different language, (and they were structures in reality) to the specifics of Crowleys numerology. It is easier to see the actual ritual significance in those events, they were huge ... events, spectacles, not numerological structures that belong to systems of logic.

Its getting late here and I might not be making myself clear.

[OP ED]

Calling it the 93 Current is post-Crowley. He never used the term. I believe it was Grant who started calling it that.

Also most of the space alien nonsense associated it with it was the Typhonians. (many of whom are almost certainly somewhat insane)

Thelema and Agape both number to 93. Which is why the neo-thelemites abbreviate "Love is the Law" as 93=93

There are contentious specific interpretations to various parts of it. It is a shorthand description of the prophetic currents in global religion. Crowley believed he was only the latest in a long line of "transmitters" of the current. His uniqueness, as he saw it, had little to do with him personally, and most to do with the fact that we've only very recently begun to have access to unredacted scriptures. He was special primarily because of his appearance in more recent time.