Horrorcore rapper faces murder charges.

[OP ED]

"Laveyan Satanism"? Red membership cards? Might OP ED weigh in on this one, please?

a. there are no tenets of LaVeyan satanism that can excuse terrible music.

b. the red membership card is as hard to get as writing a check for $200

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plus that blog is mostly silly crap. probably an advertising gimmick.

"see the "sam" in his name was a secret occult coded reference to the son of sam's dog..."

[lightningBugout]

[OP ED]

your image is triggering for me, btw.

[brainpanhandler]

Naughty, naughty...

[OP ED]

(that was not a joke)

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kudos, btw, to those who jumped at any blase remarks about prison rape. better you than me.
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as to the other points of contention, while i'm here:

i have no issue, in and of itself, with violence in art. violence exists in the world so it is only natural that it will be depicted in art.

my issue is only with bad art, of all forms with any level of violence. it is the real problem here. sicktanic whatevers are only the end-result of the backlash of centuries of mediocre material pummeling the minds of those unfortunates born with the nightmarish legacy of white male privilege.

it'd be nice someday to see the PTB divest their interest in General Motors and reappropriate it towards buying a smidgeon of fucking taste for the collective consciousness to enjoy.

violence in and of itself is irrelevant, as it comes down to presentation.

oh yes it does.

you see, good art doesn't glorify violence. nope. not ever.

why?

because there is nothing glorious about violence.

[lightningBugout]

you see, good art doesn't glorify violence. nope. not ever.

why?

because there is nothing glorious about violence.

wholly agreed. and to point out -- there is a particularly intellectually-lazy slippage that seems to go uncontested in which one equates depiction / exploration / enactment / habitation (of sociopathy etc) with "glorification." which is so fucking thoughtless i don't want to waste my chi on it.

[Penguin]

The most important thing is that we're the baddest of the bad, the meanest motherfuckers on the planet, and we'll smile while the blood drips on our head.

It's the perfect American fable. And Dexter is the perfect archetypical American.

You nailed it there...I mused about the same.

it'd be nice someday to see the PTB divest their interest in General Motors and reappropriate it towards buying a smidgeon of fucking taste for the collective consciousness to enjoy.

violence in and of itself is irrelevant, as it comes down to presentation.

oh yes it does.

you see, good art doesn't glorify violence. nope. not ever.

[brainpanhandler]

you see, good art doesn't glorify violence. nope. not ever.

why?

because there is nothing glorious about violence.

wholly agreed. and to point out -- there is a particularly intellectually-lazy slippage that seems to go uncontested in which one equates depiction / exploration / enactment / habitation (of sociopathy etc) with "glorification." which is so fucking thoughtless i don't want to waste my chi on it.

Even if one doesn't lazily and thoughtlessly equate depiction / exploration / enactment / habitation (of sociopathy etc) with "glorification" there is still the difficult work of drawing the distinctions in cases where it is not clear at all that a work of art can be neatly tucked into so and so pigeonhole. Great works of art rarely operate on just one level and if they have something to say about the nature of violence it is very often in a way that is subtle enough to leave room for the experiencer to draw their own conclusions, including that violence has been glorified. I mean it entirely depends on the ethics of the experiencer. Is there ever "good" violence? If you can answer yes, then can you imagine a work of art which depicts this good violence without glorifying it? How about with glorifying it?

The most common plot device perhaps in the history of cinema and television which frees the audience to revel in violence is vengence. It's a legit topic that's a lot older, maybe as old as written language, than cinema and televison that for those predisposed to self reflection forces one to wonder about their own violent tendencies, however latent and repressed or at least that is what it could be. It's been turned into a ridiculous caricature of a moral play that almost always serves the purpose of justifying tyranny.

[compared2what?]

Do you think it's safe to say that this Sarah McCroskey ("Certified Bioenergy Balancing Practitioner, Spiritual Coach & Teacher") is the sister, based on family resemblance and Bay area residency?

Because evidently she can cure everything from cancer to autism over the phone by selling you vitamins and adjusting your molecule production or something. This here is the site of Bioenergy Balancing Center, East Bay, of which she's the director. I'm having trouble figuring out who his parents are or what they do. But so far, I have to say that I'm not really imagining that his home life was exactly stress-free, based on the choices made by the kids in it.

There's also an Alyssa McCroskey who committed suicide at the age of 16 by walking in front of a train in Riverside, California, whose parents appear to have been about to ship her off to Colorado where the only McCroskey I see is....Well. Never mind. They don't appear to be related.

I'd like to know a little more about his folks, though.

[nathan28]

Rollerderby? Juggalos? The thread just triggered me, too.



Has any nat'l or local news outlet established why a Cali juggalo was out in a town with less than a hundred thousand people out on the East Coast's foothills? To pick up some unfinished furniture and outlet mall tennis shoes? I imagine his album sales were bad, but not that bad.


On edit, for reference:

Juggalo killing at about the same longitude: http://rigorousintuition.ca/board/viewtopic.php?t=22026&highlight=juggalo

More commentary once you scroll past D-Pin's picture: http://rigorousintuition.ca/board/viewtopic.php?t=16178&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=juggalo&start=0

[yathrib]

The sooner everyone realizes that Laveyan satanists are just agnostics who like to dress up in robes and hoods, the better. What I do seriously hate about them is that it's obligatory for white, middle class, mainstream moms like myself to get all "Who will think of the children??!!" when the subject comes up. Not that I'd want my kids to marry one....

[mentalgongfu2]

Now is the season of Fear.

[barracuda]

Do you think it's safe to say that this Sarah McCroskey ("Certified Bioenergy Balancing Practitioner, Spiritual Coach & Teacher") is the sister, based on family resemblance and Bay area residency?

No, that's not her. The sister is 21, and this article originally had a photo of her, which for some reason no longer displays. Very young looking, pretty, strawberry blond, with eyebrow and lip piercings.

EDIT: the picture is there. This is the sister...

[IanEye]

Has any nat'l or local news outlet established why a Cali juggalo was out in a town with less than a hundred thousand people out on the East Coast's foothills?

This sentence reminded me of the opening pages of Levenda's first volume of Sinister Forces, where he sort of speculates that Manson returned to Kentucky at one point to kill a relative.

[robotilt]

Four pages in, and nobody's brought up the possibility of this being an MK Juggalo operation? I mean, it's Virginia... and that 2008 North Carolina Juggalo murder referenced on an earlier thread was also with a hammer, so we've got a pattern.

Seriously though, somebody in Langley is at least thinking that these clown gangs could be useful terror stooges.