BREAKING: Hughes Arrested for 1981 Alavarez Murders

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Postby American Dream » Fri Nov 20, 2009 9:27 pm

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DECEMBER 3, 2009 IS THE NEXT EXTRADITION HEARING FOR MURDER SUSPECT JIMMY HUGHES

by Virginia McCullough 11/20/09



Attorney Rene Sotorrio appeared November 20, 2009 at 9 a.m. before Judge Jorge E. Cuerto who conducts bond hearings in the criminal division of the 11th Judicial Circuit Court of Florida, Miami-Dade County. This was Attorney Sotorrio’s second appearance on behalf of his client Jimmy Hughes who is fighting an extradition request from California that, if granted, would find the evangelist facing charges in the 1981 triple execution of Cabazon Indian Fred Alvarez and his friends Ralph Boger and Patricia Castro. Mr. Sotorrio was successful in seeking a continuance and the next court extradition hearing will be held before Judge Cuerto on December 3, 2009 at 9 a.m.

Miami Dade Superior Court Clerk confirms that the Hughes case remains under Judge Bertila A. Soto based on information contained on the court docket. However Robert in Judge Soto’s chambers indicated that the November 20th hearing was not on Judge Soto’s calendar for that day.

Terry Chavez, spokeswoman for the Florida State Attorney’s Office confirmed that Judge Cuerto had conducted the hearing for Hughes. Chavez explained that the defendants are usually not present in person during extradition hearings but are present by a television hook-up which monitors everything in the courtroom where the judge, attorneys and courtroom personnel conduct the hearing. They communicate with the defendant who is physically in the chapel of the county jail where he can monitor the court and communicate through the television present in that room. Therefore, defense attorneys conducting these hearings normally waive their client’s presence. One of the reasons for this procedure is that the Dade Courts are the 4th largest in the United States and heavy calendars necessitate employing efficient courtroom procedures that also guarantee the defendant’s right to a fair hearing.

This reporter questioned Ms. Chavez about whether or not the second continuance granted to James Hughes since Mr. Sotorrio declared as his attorney was an unusual event. Ms. Chavez emphasized that this was normal procedure where defense attorneys timely appeared on behalf of their client and kept the hearing judge informed. Ms. Chavez stated, “that in the pursuit of justice the defendant and his attorney is always given sufficient time to review and consult on any complaint to assure that everything is as it should be.” She said that Rene Sotorrio is a well known and respected attorney well versed in their court’s procedures.

California Deputy Attorney General Michael Murphy, in an telephone interview this week, said that no one from his office would be present for Friday’s hearing in Miami

In the meantime James George Hughes, named in the felony complaint for extradition as the killer of three people, remains in jail in Miami held without bond.

Many readers who know and have worked with Jimmy Hughes have contacted this reporter asking how they can send letters to Hughes while he awaits extradition. His address follows:

James George Hughes Jr.
Jail No. 90082914
Metro West Detention Center
13850 NW 41 Street
Miami, Florida 33178

Virginia McCulllough © 11/20/09
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Postby compared2what? » Sat Nov 21, 2009 7:45 am

American Dream wrote:http://www.newsmakingnews.com/vm,fred,alvarez,jimmy,hughes,extradition,setting,the,record,straight,11,16,09.html

SETTING THE RECORD STRAIGHT
THE GOVERNOR'S WARRANT FOR JIMMY HUGHES

By Virginia McCullough


Evangelist Jimmy Hughes was arrested on September 26, 2009 as he sat with his wife aboard an American Airlines plane awaiting take off that would have taken him to Honduras where the couple operated The Jimmy Hughes Ministries Children’s Home.

The State of Florida retained James George Hughes on a complaint prepared by California Deputy Attorney General Michael Murphy based on an investigation conducted by Riverside County Sheriff Homicide Unit, Cold Case Division Detective John M. Powers. The charges addressed a triple execution historically known as The Alvarez Executions that occurred in June of 1981. (10/6/09 Attorney General Jerry Brown's felony complaint against Jimmy Hughes )

Deputy AG Murphy’s complaint resulted in Jimmy Hughes fighting extradition from Florida to face the charges in California. This triggered a request by California Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger to Florida Governor Charlie Crist that Governor Crist issue a Governor’s warrant requiring the extradition of Jimmy Hughes to California.

Media publicity since Hughes’ arrest has centered on the strange partnership formed between Riverside County Sheriff Cold Case Detective Powers and a woman who identifies herself as the daughter of one of the people killed in the backyard of Fred Alvarez’s home, Fred Boger. The woman is Rachel Begley who uses the internet handle Desertfae (Desertfae.com). On October 2, 2009 Desertfae wrote an article entitled Jimmy Hughes Arrested on Murder Charges: 1981 Triple Homicide and posted it to the web. She discusses her alliance with Detective Powers in the following paragraphs:

Detective John Powers at the Riverside County Sheriff’s Department in California, Central Homicide Unit – Cold Case Division, was assigned to investigate the 28-year-old triple homicide case about 2 years ago when Rachel Begley, the daughter of victim Ralph Boger, convinced the sheriff’s department to re-open the case.

Both Powers and Begley were aware of what they were stepping into when they launched their investigations. Today, their respective findings resemble the stuff of spy novels, comprised of all the dynamics of clandestine government agents and organized crime figures involved in murder, money laundering and covert arms deals while exploiting Indian sovereignty (independent of most U.S. laws) at the Cabazon reservation……


Meanwhile, Detective John Powers, with the full support and backing of the Riverside Sheriff, relentlessly followed the cold-case trail from 1981 to the present, examining thousands of old documents across the state, resurrecting police reports from forgotten archives (which were not computerized 28 years ago), and interviewing dozens of hostile witnesses who feared to come forward in 1981.

Ultimately, Powers formed a secret investigative alliance with Begley, a computer whiz, and their work came to fruition last week when Detective Powers was notified by authorities in Miami, Florida that Jimmy Hughes was in the U.S. and preparing to depart for Honduras.

Det. Powers is currently in the process of getting the Governor's Warrant to have Jimmy Hughes brought back to California. He filed a Felony Complaint for Extradition in Indio Court on October 1, case number INF-066719.


This partnership is elaborated on by Detective Powers in an article entitled Daughter’s Work Helps Break Triple Homicide Case by Monica Torline and Kate McGinty in the October 18, 2009 issue of The Desert Sun.

She managed to find documents and people tied to the case that no one else ever uncovered, said Riverside County sheriff's Det. John Powers, lead investigator on the case.

"Rachel uncovered a lot more that we didn't know about,” Powers said, declining to elaborate further on what new evidence surfaced. “She's very tenacious.”….

Begley's independent investigation has been critical to today's case, Powers said.


People across the country have found her blog and personal videos online and reached out to her. Even relatives of Alvarez and Castro have contacted her through her site.

Begley became an information broker of sorts, getting some people to trust her enough to introduce them to Powers. He's met about a dozen of Begley's sources from across the nation who have ties to or a deeper knowledge of the case.

Powers considers her a partner in their ongoing work.

And their partnership isn't over yet, said Begley, who lives with her husband and four children outside Louisville.

“I've got the answers I was looking for, but it's more than that now. It's more of a moral issue,” she said.

“I think it comes down to my dad and friend (Fred) always telling me to do the right thing. I've got all this information, so I want to make sure something comes of it, something meaningful.”


On November 6, 2009 Rachel Begley issued a new press release entitled Florida Governor Charlie Crist's Office Stalls On Extradition of Jimmy Hughes Arrested on Murder Charges: “Octopus Murders.

The following are excerpts from that press release:

Hughes has been held at Miami-Dade Metro West Detention Center since his arrest on 09/26/09. The extradition process involves a Governors Warrant being sent from the State of California to the office of Charlie Crist, Governor of Florida. During the time that the paperwork is being completed, Hughes is required to have a hearing approximately every 30 days. The State of Florida can hold Hughes up to 90 days while the paperwork is being completed, after which time, they reportedly must release him.

Upon learning the news of the second delay, Rachel Begley decided to take action to find the reason for the delay. During the course of the day, she was able to confirm that Governor Charlie Crist's Office has had the completed paperwork in their possession for over two weeks. She made multiple calls, left multiple voice mails, sent emails, and faxes to attempt to speed up the extradition of Jimmy Hughes.

Monica Torline of The Desert Sun wrote today, “Once we issue the warrant we are not involved in the extradition process as it moves through the court system,” Florida press secretary Sterling Ivey told The Desert Sun by e-mail Friday. Officials in the extradition unit of the Miami Dade County State Attorney's Office said in most cases, the governor's warrant is filed with the court during an extradition hearing.”

This extradition hearing has yet to take place. One must wonder how long the delays and stalling will take place. Will Jimmy Hughes be released due to the State of Florida's stalling techniques or a technicality?


This reporter requested information from the Miami-Dade County Police Department, Warrants Division to clarify the timing of the Governor’s warrant requesting the extradition of murder suspect Jimmy Hughes in order to determine whether the process has been affected by the politics alleged in the Begley press release. The following is that request:

From: Virginia McCulloughvmccullough@comcast.net Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 11:14 AM
To: l.adams@mdpd.com
Cc:


Subject: FW: Governor's Warrant on Hughes
Thank you for your time this morning. The email below and the attachments were kindly supplied to me by Ed Griffith, Miami SAO. It involves a request for extradition from Calif. Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger to Florida Gov. Charlie Crist for James George Hughes

The first document you pull up on the attachment is a cover letter from Gov. Crist’s Extradition Coordinator

Susan L. Smith. It is addressed to the Warrants Division of your department and it is dated Friday, October 16, 2009. I am told that Gov. Crist received Gov. Schwarzenegger’s request for extradition on October 15, 2009 which then indicates a one-day turn around. However, the Warrants Division stamp indicates it was not received until October 22, 2009. I am assuming that the letter did not get mailed until the evening of the 16th and was in transit on Saturday, the 17th. Therefore it was apparently received on the fourth working day after mailing.

My question is whether on not this time frame for mail between the Governor’s office and the Warrant Division is typical and, if not, could you supply an explanation for anything that might have been unusual about this particular request for extradition.


The following response was received:

Good afternoon Ms. McCullough:

In regards to your request, the Miami-Dade Police Department, Warrants Bureau has provided the following information;

Governor Crist signed the warrant on 10/16/09 (Friday); however, we do not know when it was put in the mail by the Governor's Office. It was received at our mailroom on 10/21/09, then processed and delivered to the Warrants Bureau on 10/22/09 and served on 10/23/09. In my opinion, there was not any unusual time delay in receiving the Governor's warrant. On the contrary, California had up to 90 days to perfect the Governor's warrant. Governor's warrant was received and served within 30 days.

Subject is presently in custody/no bond. His attorney has requested a continuance in order to review the warrant, which is customary. The 90 day time restraint is no longer a factor, once the subject has been served.


Below is the clerk's docket screen:

PAGE: 1
CASE NO: F09031832
DEFENDANT: HUGHES JAMES GEORGE
SEQ. NO. DATE PROGRESS OF CASE
0006 11/06/2009 EXTRADITION HEARING SCHEDULED FOR 11/20/2009 AT 09:00
0005 10/27/2009 NOTICE OF APPEARANCE RENE A. SOTORRIO, ESQ.
0003 10/23/2009 EXTRADITION HEARING SCHEDULED FOR 11/06/2009 AT 09:00
0001 10/22/2009 EXTRADITION HEARING SCHEDULED FOR 10/23/2009 AT 09:00
0002 09/29/2009 AFFIDAVIT OF FUGITIVE WARRANT


The Alvarez executions have been on the shelf of the Riverside Sheriff and District Attorney’s office for the past 28 years. A complaint has finally been filed charging that James George Hughes was the hit man in these executions. If the integrity of the investigation and prosecution are not strictly maintained, a conviction or convictions in this triple execution might never be achieved. It is vital that politics not be allowed to enter this judicial arena and that the potential jury pool in Riverside not be contaminated by inaccuracies posted to the Internet prior to trial.

Virginia McCullough © 11/16/09


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Just to set the record straight, the suggestion that Rachel Begley posted a potentially jury-pool-contaminating inaccuracy to the internet by calling for Crist's office to take a purely technical action, wholly unrelated to the facts of the case, which the response she'd gotten to her inquiries had honestly if mistakenly led her to believe hadn't been taken in Miami-Dade County, Florida when the trial and presumably the jury selection are expected to occur in Riverside County, California at a considerably later date is....Let's just say: not fucking justified by the events and so ludicrous on its face that it borders on rank insanity. It's not like you need to have any especially educated understanding of the criminal justice system to know better than that, really. However, since Virginia McCullough does happen to have some especially educated understanding of the criminal justice system and plenty of it, unless she was in a transient state of rank insanity at the time of writing, there's simply no way that she, of all people, doesn't know way, way better than that. On her worst day, in her sleep, and with one hand tied behind her back.

I really don't understand what she could possibly have been hoping to achieve, or why, by writing that. Totally don't get it at all. I mean, if she'd just said straight-out...

    "That amateur, Rachel Begley, may have failed to make a distinction between the date of service of the warrant and the date of introduction of that warrant into court records in front of a judge that caused her to mistake a postponement that must be very frustrating for her as highly consequential and imminently dire, but I, Virginia McCullough, sure as hell didn't."


...I'd still be as much at a loss about why she was in this fight as I was before, but at least I'd be able to see something I could kind-of sort-of recognize as a tactic, however ill-judged I personally might think it. But it just makes no sense of any kind to me the way it stands. I mean, the apparently inexplicable personal hostility might turn out to have an explanation, eventually. But it's not like putting your byline on top of a page of pure nonsensical bullshit is ever going to look like -- or, in fact, to be-- any less of a disservice to your readers when time reveals it to have been an act of righteous anger that it does when time reveals it to have been an act of plain petty spite, I truly, seriously just don't get it. She's only making herself look bad.

And what's the tactical value of that?
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Postby American Dream » Wed Nov 25, 2009 4:37 pm

Here is a very interesting video clip from California TV:


Suspect Arrested in Triple Murder Had Been Given Immunity





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Postby compared2what? » Wed Nov 25, 2009 7:35 pm

It sure is. Speculation only, but it kind of suggests to me that Hughes is squealing like a pig on advice of counsel. Which is pretty much what you'd expect. But also that he hasn't completely lost his head, if (as I purely speculate based on little more than that video, so grains of salt advised) he's hoping to get away with just diming out the complicit and corrupt government officials who got paid to give him immunity in exchange for that "I was a bagman" testimony of (evidently) little prosecutorial value rather than the bad guys who paid them. Because the latter are probably both much more dangerous and in a much better position to take care of a threateningly talkative person when that person happens already to be behind bars. Which (speculatively) would kind of pass the hot-potato task of diming out the bad guys to the implicated (possibly former) government officials. Who I guess should be shoring up their home security systems if they haven't already done so, however speculative that scenario is, just to be on the safe side. Assuming that they exist at all. But it seems like a pretty justified assumption that they do, I'd say. Based on the immunity and subsequent decades of inexplicable inaction and so forth, I mean.
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Postby Kate Dixon » Wed Nov 25, 2009 11:33 pm

American Dream wrote:Here is a very interesting video clip from California TV:


Suspect Arrested in Triple Murder Had Been Given Immunity





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I hope this post goes through properly. The last time I posted here was on the Richard W. Hamlin case, when I wrote about testimony I heard in court.

This whole case with Jimmy Hughes is turning on the issue of whether he
was granted transactional immunity for his grand jury testimony in the past in the Alvarez triple execution case. This TV sequence seems to indicate that Det. John Powers and Rachel Begley are informed that Hughes did have
immunity. Now, one has to look at this matter realistically. It is very unusual to prosecute a person who was granted transactional immunity regarding the matter, i.e. crime, that he testified about -- that person cannot be prosecuted for any crime related to any matter about which the witness testified. One way that the courts have allowed a person to be
prosecuted again, given the grant of transactional immunity, is when all the evidence the prosecution intends to use is derived from legitimate independent sources -- i.e. independent from the prior testimony for which the use immunity or other immunity was granted.

Now, it is easy to see, if there was a grant of immunity to Hughes, that Rachel Begley and John Powers have developed some evidence from independent sources. We can expect that Begley is one of those independent sources, and a prominent one. So, let's get to the point --
Begley and Powers are trying to find a way around the immunity granted to Hughes in the past -- they have developed a new theory of prosecution, in which Begley stars, given her use of undercover taps (video and wire) to obtain statements from Hughes. She is actually a person who is part of the affidavit of probable cause for arrest. This is truly a unique type of prosecution -- sashaying around a prior grant of immunity with a relative of a victim --not a victim, but a relative of one, who indicates she is a type of sleuth. I am personally in favor of citizen sleuths, especially when they are truly independent. But let's get real here -- this is not about Begley but this is about wiggling around a prior grant of immunity from prosecution.
Look at U.S. v. Mendoza (9th Cir. 1996) 78 F3d 460.

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Postby compared2what? » Thu Nov 26, 2009 7:49 am

Kate Dixon wrote:
American Dream wrote:Here is a very interesting video clip from California TV:


Suspect Arrested in Triple Murder Had Been Given Immunity





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I hope this post goes through properly. The last time I posted here was on the Richard W. Hamlin case, when I wrote about testimony I heard in court.

This whole case with Jimmy Hughes is turning on the issue of whether he
was granted transactional immunity for his grand jury testimony in the past in the Alvarez triple execution case. This TV sequence seems to indicate that Det. John Powers and Rachel Begley are informed that Hughes did have
immunity. Now, one has to look at this matter realistically. It is very unusual to prosecute a person who was granted transactional immunity regarding the matter, i.e. crime, that he testified about -- that person cannot be prosecuted for any crime related to any matter about which the witness testified. One way that the courts have allowed a person to be
prosecuted again, given the grant of transactional immunity, is when all the evidence the prosecution intends to use is derived from legitimate independent sources -- i.e. independent from the prior testimony for which the use immunity or other immunity was granted.

Now, it is easy to see, if there was a grant of immunity to Hughes, that Rachel Begley and John Powers have developed some evidence from independent sources. We can expect that Begley is one of those independent sources, and a prominent one. So, let's get to the point --
Begley and Powers are trying to find a way around the immunity granted to Hughes in the past -- they have developed a new theory of prosecution, in which Begley stars, given her use of undercover taps (video and wire) to obtain statements from Hughes. She is actually a person who is part of the affidavit of probable cause for arrest. This is truly a unique type of prosecution -- sashaying around a prior grant of immunity with a relative of a victim --not a victim, but a relative of one, who indicates she is a type of sleuth. I am personally in favor of citizen sleuths, especially when they are truly independent. But let's get real here -- this is not about Begley but this is about wiggling around a prior grant of immunity from prosecution.
Look at U.S. v. Mendoza (9th Cir. 1996) 78 F3d 460.

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Thank you for posting, Ms. Dixon. I'm not sure I understand your position. In fact, I'm quite sure that I don't. I'd very much appreciate it therefore if you could clarify it for me.

First of all, as far as I know, starting with the arrest of Jimmy Hughes in connection with a notorious triple homicide that appears to be rife with deep political and organized crime associations, and going forward, nobody thinks or has been tenaciously, tyranically and unaccountably superficial enough to suggest that it was about Rachel Begley. Not excluding Rachel Begley herself, actually, from what I've seen of her demeanor and conduct. Apart from yourself and Virginia McCullough, both of newsmakingnews, which -- as I understand it -- appears to be your shop. And for some reason that's presumably known to you even if it isn't to me, since the get, your shop and/or its representatives have given every appearance of repeatedly attempting to impugn Rachel Begley's character, both explicitly and implicitly, via a series of pretexts that either don't seem to justify the slurs on a prima facie basis, or for which you're not offering any proof other than your word, or that later appear to be contradicted by facts that you yourselves don't challenge. Or all three. Why? What's up with that? I do not understand it at all. That's my A#1 question, therefore. Why, why, why do you not trust Rachel Begley? Why?

Because while it may be clear to you, I assure you: It's absolutely baffling from a third-party perspective. You appear, for all the world, to be rooting for Hughes, what with stuff like the posting of an address to which supporters can write. Or, as above, all of a sudden and out-of-the-blue, taking an uncompromising and principled stand on defendant's rights, when it:

(a) represents a 180-degree turn in editorial policy wrt to the defendant in question;

(b) represents a 180-degree turn in editorial policy wrt the general legal implications of advocating on principle for the absolute inviolability of transactional immunity in the context of grand jury investigations, as if your newest and bestest friend were Dick fucking Cheney or something, especially in the context of California state saw, for pity's sake; and

(c) actively obscures the two most fucking obvious legal meanings that Rachel Begley's statement about the immunity having been contingent on the testimony panning out could possibly fucking have in the state of California.

Which are, as I'm sure you know: (1) that he did have transactional immunity, which doesn't protect him from being prosecuted for perjury, and that they do have rock solid evidence that he perjured himself; or (2) that the DA's office had enough on Jimmy Hughes back when to get him to agree to testify in exchange for limited immunity.

Furthermore, while it is, of course, possible that Jimmy Hughes had transactional immunity and that Begley and Powers (and/or anyone on God's green earth, for all you know) did somehow manage to beat the very formidable odds against putting together a bringable case against someone for crimes related to testimony he gave under conditions of transactional immunity, as you "can easily see," from where the fuck are you getting the undercover-wire-tap-by-Rachel-Begley part of your hypothesis? Do you have any reason to believe that such wire-tapping occurred? And if so, that it was done by Rachel Begley? In which case it would almost certainly be not so much "undercover" as it would "illegal and inadmissible in court," not to mention "pretty close to libel per se for you to suggest without so much as a nod in the direction of due diligence"?

Also, has it ever occurred to you that as a plain logical proposition, if you're correct in assuming that Begley and Powers have put together enough evidence from independent sources to overcome a grant of transactional immunity, you can't be correct in assuming that they "wriggled around" the law to get it? And vice versa? Because Hughes does have an attorney, you know. And Begley isn't actually in a position to rule on probable cause as an individual and non-aligned actor, all by herself. As I certainly fucking hope you know, usually that's only done by judges. Whom you typically find in courtrooms, possibly asking questions like: "Who authorized this wiretap? Elves?"

As you really and truly must know, full knowledge of every damn detail of the high-stakes poker game that prosecutors looking for bigger fish routinely play with comparatively small-fry suspects is a stone impossibility, for both legal and common sense reasons, 99.9 per cent of the time or oftener. So on what grounds, exactly, is the scenario that you so easily see premised? Do you have any evidence of any kind that supports your point of view? And if so, don't you think it's massively irresponsible of you so completely to ignore your obligation to at least take a shot at presenting it to your readers?

Or are you just speculating? And if so, why are your speculations all conditional on the inherent no-goodness of Rachel Begley?

Thanks in advance for your attention to these questions. Please let me know if I was unclear in some way or can otherwise be of any assistance to you in answering them. I very much appreciate your consideration and look forward to hearing your responses at your earliest convenience.

Sincerely yours,

c2w

PS: FYI -- Casting aspersions on the character and motivations of random strangers who have no formal power or authority, aren't public figures, and who arent, as far as the eye can see, doing anything that might make them appear to be dishonest or malicious in some way -- ie, by maybe withholding information, or shifting goalposts, or telling inconsistent stories, or being excessively secretive for no apparent reason, or consistently directing attention to some minor side issue, or, I don't know...maybe just vaguely giving the impression that they might be acting in the furtherance of some undisclosed interest simply by displaying a bunch of small behavioral or structural or ideological anomalies that could very well have a perfectly innocent explanation that just isn't easily perceptible or could (but usually aren't) very well be signs that they might be engaged in some enterprise of a potentially conspiratorial nature -- isn't actually really that good of a fit with any of the primary interests by which RI posters are so passionately if irritably united. Although I can totally see how you might have gotten the idea that it was. So no big thing, really. It's strictly a point of information,
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Postby Kate Dixon » Thu Nov 26, 2009 11:12 am

I am going to try to respond to the points you raised. I will quote some of of material, as -- you say in "Quotes:" with my point in response. You know point by point, collegially.

I do not have a "position" although you seem to think I have one. i mean I have not been contacted by law enforcement or by Jimmy Hughes and I have not reviewed any court files, which I am sure will be subject to a sealing fight. This case is about 28 years old so it is very hard to research -- many witnesses are not available or deceased or will not talk or simply can't recall.
You can read my article, "when is case too old to try" on NMN and see that the courts are throwing out cases for being too old to try. Age in a case also can lead to other due process problems. So I do not have a "position" about the whole case, but I do have a position about the issue of immunity, which I am expressing.

YOU SAID: "First of all, as far as I know, starting with the arrest of Jimmy Hughes in connection with a notorious triple homicide that appears to be rife with deep political and organized crime associations, and going forward, nobody thinks or has been tenaciously, tyranically and unaccountably superficial enough to suggest that it was about Rachel Begley. Not excluding Rachel Begley herself, actually, from what I've seen of her demeanor and conduct." MY RESPONSE: I agree with you that there are deep political and organized crime associations in this case, but there are these considerations in many many cases. In fact all prosecutions are tinged with political considerations. And organized crime, well it is organized, you have to say that. You forget though that the Hughes case is tinged with what is referred to these days as "national security" considerations. Back in the day, one could simply say the CIA was all over the case. Or that the President was all over the case. If you take this Alvarez triple execution to the status of "national security", above and beyond mere politics and organized crime, then of course, Hughes can pull out the so-called national security card -- and assert the case can't be tried without revealing classified information, thus he can't be tried. But I see you comments and those of Begley and Powers -- the main if only sources of info from the prosecution never mention "national security", just focus on organized crime and politics. Oh well....
I do not know who you are, but I don't mind responding to anonymity -- it has its place. I must say though that you are in error, in stating that the case is not about Ms. Begley. Yes, Yes it is about her. Why? First, it was her father who was murdered -- important point, and Second, she is the means by which the prosecutor will attempt to overcome Hughe's grant of immunity -- by establishing that they have a case independent of that old immunity grant, based on new fresh information, generated by Begley, at least in part, and by Powers. Without Begley, the prosecution cannot overcome the immunity problem. She is in position here --- not the first time law enforcement used someone. Wait until she finds out she was used as a mere tool.

YOU SAID: "Apart from yourself and Virginia McCullough, both of newsmakingnews, which -- as I understand it -- appears to be your shop."
MY RESPONSE: You are right if you think I am the exclusive owner of Newsmakingnews (NMN). Virginia McCullough runs her own shop and always has and always will. I have nothing to do with what she writes. I publish it if I want to. If Ms. Begley sent me an article, I probably would publish that too.
YOU SAID: "And for some reason that's presumably known to you even if it isn't to me, since the get, your shop and/or its representatives have given every appearance of repeatedly attempting to impugn Rachel Begley's character, both explicitly and implicitly, via a series of pretexts that either don't seem to justify the slurs on a prima facie basis, or for which you're not offering any proof other than your word, or that later appear to be contradicted by facts that you yourselves don't challenge. Or all three. Why? What's up with that? I do not understand it at all. That's my A#1 question, therefore. Why, why, why do you not trust Rachel Begley? Why?"
MY RESPONSE: I don't know Ms. Begley. She never contacted me. I am not involved in impugning her. I realize she like everyone wants to maintain credibility. I also realiize that the entire reputation of the Attorney General and Riverside Sheriff and Rod Pacheco is resting upon the integrity of her as a witness -- as one of the main witnesses who will take them past the grant of immunity -- they hope, so they can prosecute Hughes, despite this immunity. So, the credibility of Begley goes way beyond what one person thinks about her -- law enforcement has a stake in her future and her future testimony. She is their pawn. I am interested in her in that I am intrigued as to how she is being used. I have no personal feelings about her except that I regret she lost her father and lost him at a young age.

YOU SAID: "Because while it may be clear to you, I assure you: It's absolutely baffling from a third-party perspective. You appear, for all the world, to be rooting for Hughes, what with stuff like the posting of an address to which supporters can write."
MY RESPONSE: I am not rooting for Hughes. This forum has a degree of intellectual inquiry into the facts. I am not the one who raised this legal issue. Begley and Powers raised it on television -- the TV show was linked to this thread a few posts ago. When they raised the issue of Hughes' immunity, I simply researched the issue, thought about it and expressed some points. You must know that law is pro and con, and Lincoln said, the job of a lawyer is to spend 99 percent of his time thinking about what the other guy is thinking, (paraphrase of his statement). So to look into what Hughe's defenses might be is simply logical. Not to do so, is simply stupid unless one take the extreme right wing position that defendants should have no defense and no rights and no right to defend themselves.

YOU SAID: "Or, as above, all of a sudden and out-of-the-blue, taking an uncompromising and principled stand on defendant's rights, when it:

(a) represents a 180-degree turn in editorial policy wrt to the defendant in question;

(b) represents a 180-degree turn in editorial policy wrt the general legal implications of advocating on principle for the absolute inviolability of transactional immunity in the context of grand jury investigations, as if your newest and bestest friend were Dick fucking Cheney or something, especially in the context of California state saw, for pity's sake; and

(c) actively obscures the two most fucking obvious legal meanings that Rachel Begley's statement about the immunity having been contingent on the testimony panning out could possibly fucking have in the state of California.

Which are, as I'm sure you know: (1) that he did have transactional immunity, which doesn't protect him from being prosecuted for perjury, and that they do have rock solid evidence that he perjured himself; or (2) that the DA's office had enough on Jimmy Hughes back when to get him to agree to testify in exchange for limited immunity.'

MY RESPONSE: I think you are right that a person who has transactional immunity can be prosecuted for perjury. In fact, I am surprised that the complaint against Hughes does not consist of a perjury charge. It does not. Why? Does law enforcement think he did not perjure himself? I say, if he lied, prosecute him for perjury -- wouldn't that be logical. I guess they don't have a case for perjury. Instead they just ignore his immunity, which you seem to know is "transactional", and charge him with murder 1. I don't know if Hughes had a plea bargain connected to his immunity, in other words, he has a reduced plea for some lesser charged based on his giving true testimony, and which allows the reduced plea to be revoked and then allow him to face charges on the original complaint. I don't know that he ever served any time regarding the triple execution or pled to anything regarding it -- I believe the media would have picked that up and it would be a public record if he actually pled to something in regard to the execution. I haven't seen that. So, it appears to me that Begley and Powers are saying that Hughes perjured himself during grand jury testimony during which he was granted transactional immunity, therefore his immunitiy is somehow "revoked". How stupid can they be? Immunity is never "revoked" by abracadabra it is revoked --- no. It is revoked after perjury is proven in a court of law, unless it was contingent on a plea deal.
Hughes' immunity remains in place and Powers and law enforcement can't revoke it by saying it is revoked.

My question to you is, if Hughes testified before the grand jury about his role and testified presumably about the role of others, then why were those other people not charged in the past and not charged now. Ooops I forgot, John Philip Nichols is mentioned as a conspirator re: murder in the current complaint, but oops, he is dead. Oh well, ooops, the Riverside sheriff and Indio police and Riverside D.A. for whom Pacheco worked during those long years, were unable to make a case against JPN before he died. Ooops ooops ooops. Looks like they can't make a case against anyone else but Glen, but oooops, they are not arresting Glen, not explaining his deal or his immunity, but just accusing him of Murder 1 and letting him walk around a free man. Ooops, oops, oops. The idea of this prosecution is just that Jimmy Hughes must be charged -- forget all the rest of it. So, come on, everyone, have you ever seen a situation like this one? This one takes the cake? No one one God's green earth can believe in the integrity of this complaint and the investigation behind it, when the issue of Glen going free and JPN not being prosecuted for during his lifetime, are not addressed squarely and honestly. Instead, all we hear about is the story of Rachel Begley and John Powers, as if they are characters in a novel, wearing white hats and riding for "justice". Oh, come on, give me a break. The only coverage that I know about in the media other than the work by Virginia McCullough that addressed any of these matters was the TV show cited in this thread. Even Nathan Baca missed the immunity issue. Nathan, where are you?
YOU SAID: "Furthermore, while it is, of course, possible that Jimmy Hughes had transactional immunity and that Begley and Powers (and/or anyone on God's green earth, for all you know) did somehow manage to beat the very formidable odds against putting together a bringable case against someone for crimes related to testimony he gave under conditions of transactional immunity, as you "can easily see," from where the fuck are you getting the undercover-wire-tap-by-Rachel-Begley part of your hypothesis? Do you have any reason to believe that such wire-tapping occurred? And if so, that it was done by Rachel Begley? In which case it would almost certainly be not so much "undercover" as it would "illegal and inadmissible in court," not to mention "pretty close to libel per se for you to suggest without so much as a nod in the direction of due diligence"?"
MY RESPONSE: Well I view Begley's conduct, of apparently, and correct me if I am wrong, of apparently going to a meeting Hughes had in Fresno with some religious people, and confronting him about the death of her father.
Now with that I have no issue -- I think anyone can confront anyone about the death of one's father. However, Begley was recording this audio and visual. And doing this without Hughe's knowledge. To me that is a wiretap, i.e. she was wearing a wire and tapping without someone"s knowlege. I guess you are offended by the word "wiretap", but it has legal implications. Usually persons who law enforcement designate as "informers" wear wiretaps, and often law enforcement even provides the little microphones. So the issue here, is whether Begley was in fact working for Powers when she tapped Hughes -- was she law enfordcement's informant, or a mere private person, a citizen sleuth? There are so many issues here, one could write a book about it. Obviously if one is a wired informant for law enforcement there are questions about the legality of the tap. If one is a mere private citizen doing a wire tap, the questions are different. I guess I just view Begley as an informant wearing a wire for law enforcement. Correct me if I am wrong? Wasn't she all involved with John Powers when she went tapping?

YOU SAID: "Also, has it ever occurred to you that as a plain logical proposition, if you're correct in assuming that Begley and Powers have put together enough evidence from independent sources to overcome a grant of transactional immunity, you can't be correct in assuming that they "wriggled around" the law to get it? And vice versa? Because Hughes does have an attorney, you know. And Begley isn't actually in a position to rule on probable cause as an individual and non-aligned actor, all by herself. As I certainly fucking hope you know, usually that's only done by judges. Whom you typically find in courtrooms, possibly asking questions like: "Who authorized this wiretap? Elves?" MY RESPONSE: I think you are right that judges will be ruling away in this case. I can only add that many rulings will involve the investigation and tap done by Begley as she is law enforcement's tool to try to get around the transactional immunity of Hughes, which apparently exists, per the TV show cited in this thread.

YOU SAID: "As you really and truly must know, full knowledge of every damn detail of the high-stakes poker game that prosecutors looking for bigger fish routinely play with comparatively small-fry suspects is a stone impossibility, for both legal and common sense reasons, 99.9 per cent of the time or oftener. So on what grounds, exactly, is the scenario that you so easily see premised? Do you have any evidence of any kind that supports your point of view? And if so, don't you think it's massively irresponsible of you so completely to ignore your obligation to at least take a shot at presenting it to your readers?" MY RESPONSE: I am not going to buy into the game that prosecutors are somehow working hard behind the scenes to get bigger fish and therefore we should have faith in prosecutors. I don't know what "scenario" you are talking about? I am interested in who actually commited the triple exeuctions. I would like to know their names, living or dead, and what they did in regard to the executions. I would like to see this proven in a court of law and proven openly without sealing every bit of testimony and ever document. If the President of the United States or head of the CIA authorized the hit, I would like to see them named in a complaint and see the case pursued. I personaly do not have any evidence in my possession about this case, if you mean testimony or documents. I have tried to study it by reading about it but much info on the internet and in print is really disinfo. The public is really relying on this current prosecution to deliver the truth and so far we have one man dead, JPN, and Glen, walking around a free man, and one man who had transactional immunity.
Where's the beef?

YOU SAID: Or are you just speculating? And if so, why are your speculations all conditional on the inherent no-goodness of Rachel Begley?
MY REPONSE: I really don't know Ms. Begley. As far as I am concerned she is a tool of law enforcement at this point, as I have described above. Law enforcement put her on the front line to soldier on for them. I have seen other people in this position in my life and remember the outcome. I remember one guy who soldiered on for law enforcement for years in court and before the media, and when the case was over, I saw him in the hall and try to talk to one of the chief inspectors on the case, like he had in the past, so nice and friendly, lovey-dovey, and guess what the inspector just smiled and turned away from him. The guy was a nothing. His use over. Frankly these law enforcement guys are mostly interested in retiring, getting their fat pensions and working for some high level security type firm, preferably Wackenhut. Ooops. That's a good one. What was the role of Wackenut in the triple executions?

YOU SAID: "Thanks in advance for your attention to these questions. Please let me know if I was unclear in some way or can otherwise be of any assistance to you in answering them. I very much appreciate your consideration and look forward to hearing your responses at your earliest convenience. MY RESPONSE: It was nice going point by point with you because you are smart.

YOU SAID: PS: FYI -- Casting aspersions on the character and motivations of random strangers who have no formal power or authority, aren't public figures, and who arent, as far as the eye can see, doing anything that might make them appear to be dishonest or malicious in some way -- ie, by maybe withholding information, or shifting goalposts, or telling inconsistent stories, or being excessively secretive for no apparent reason, or consistently directing attention to some minor side issue, or, I don't know...maybe just vaguely giving the impression that they might be acting in the furtherance of some undisclosed interest simply by displaying a bunch of small behavioral or structural or ideological anomalies that could very well have a perfectly innocent explanation that just isn't easily perceptible or could (but usually aren't) very well be signs that they might be engaged in some enterprise of a potentially conspiratorial nature -- isn't actually really that good of a fit with any of the primary interests by which RI posters are so passionately if irritably united. Although I can totally see how you might have gotten the idea that it was. So no big thing, really. It's strictly a point of information," MY RESPONSE: I am not casting asperions on anyone. This prosecution is not making its position clear about the entire case, it is, rather, just putting Ms. Begley out there, as its quasi-spokesperson. So, anyone who looks at this case, can only learn about it from her press releases and what she says, backed always by Mr. Powers, who makes it seem she is speaking for law enforcement, at least to some extent, and at this time. Really, this prosecution needs to have a good solid press conferencde and clear the air about their case. END.
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Postby Kate Dixon » Thu Nov 26, 2009 11:26 am

By the way, Virginia McCullough did provide in her latest article, the address of Jimmy Hughes in prison in Miami-Dade. You mentioned this in your post. I must say that his address is public information and NMN decided to publish his address because I see, on the Internet, Facebook, groups, etc., that many people, particularly Christians, who know Hughes, or attended his ministries are interested in him as a human being and want to know about his welfare and communicate with him. To facilitate their communication and of course, to allow others, including Ms. Begley, to write to him, if they so chose, I published his address. My publishing a person's address in prison does not indicate my feelings or position regarding him or her in any way, it is simply that I have published an address so people can communicate if they so chose. Communication -- it is a good thing.
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Postby chiggerbit » Thu Nov 26, 2009 1:54 pm

Well, I suppose if law enforcement itself had been tapping without either Rachel's or Hughes' consent, then that would be wire tapping, for sure. California law does consider recording face-to-face communications as being against the law, so long as either of the parties could "...reasonably expect their conversation to be confined to the parties present...". So, in this case, I very much doubt that Hughrs could claim that he thought their conversation would be private. I'd think Rachel's recording of their conversation would be acceptable, under the circumstances.

But, I do have to admit that Rachel's role in the investigation makes me uncomfortable. Not that that's her responsibility--the responsibility lies with the Sheriff's Department. There are some professional boundaries here at play that don't smell right, at least so far as what we're being told.

http://www.rcfp.org/taping/states/california.html

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It is a crime in California to intercept or eavesdrop upon any confidential communication, including a telephone call or wire communication, without the consent of all parties. Cal. Penal Code §§ 631, 632. It is also a crime to disclose information obtained from eavesdropping. However, an individual can still be convicted without disclosing information. Two appellate courts have held that there is no disclosure or publication requirement for violation of the Privacy Act by recording confidential communications without consent. Coulter v. Bank of America, 28 Cal. App. 4th 923 (Cal. Ct. App. 1994). Marich v. MGM/UA Telecommunications, Inc., 113 Cal. App. 4th 415 (Cal. Ct. App. 2003).

Eavesdropping upon or recording a conversation, whether by telephone or face-to-face, when a person would reasonably expect their conversation to be confined to the parties present, carries the same penalty as intercepting telephone or wire communications. A California appellate court ruled that a network’s broadcast of a news report that used excerpts from secret recordings during two patient examinations violated the privacy rights of the physician, who had a reasonable expectation that his communications with his patients would be private and not recorded. Lieberman v. KCOP Television, Inc. 110 Cal. App. 4th 156 (Cal. Ct. App. 2003).

But, conversations that occur at any public gathering where one could expect to be overheard, including any legislative, judicial or executive proceeding open to the public, are not covered by the statute. For example, when a television network used a hidden camera to videotape a conversation that took place at a business lunch meeting on a crowded outdoor patio of a public restaurant, the conduct did not violate the Penal Code’s prohibition against eavesdropping because it was not a “confidential communication.” Wilkins v. NBC, Inc., 71 Cal. App. 4th 1066 (Cal. Ct. App. 1999).

However, an appellate court has ruled that using a hidden video camera in a private place does violate the statute. California v. Gibbons, 215 Cal. App. 3d 1204 (Cal. Ct. App. 1989). It is not a crime to take notes during a conversation or later summarize or disclose one’s recollection of a communication. People v. Wyrick, 77 Cal. App. 3d 903 (Cal. Ct. App. 1978).

A first offense of eavesdropping is punishable by a fine of up to $2,500 and imprisonment for no more than one year. Subsequent offenses carry a maximum fine of $10,000 and jail sentence of up to one year. Intercepting, recording, and disclosing information each carries a separate penalty.

Anyone injured by a violation of the laws against disclosure of telegraphic or telephonic messages can recover civil damages of $5,000 or three times actual damages, whichever is greater. Cal. Penal Code § 637.2(a). A civil action for invasion of privacy also may be brought against the person who committed the violation. Cal. Penal Code § 637.2.
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Postby compared2what? » Thu Nov 26, 2009 3:43 pm

Dear Ms. Dixon --,

Thanks for your prompt response, to which I must say I very much look forward to replying in detail and for which I am thus -- appropriately, given the date -- doubly grateful to you.

I have to go over the river and through the woods now. To which I'm also looking forward; one of the two best amateur chefs I know is a close relative and the other is married to a close relative, so you know -- Mmm. Thanksgiving. So please accept my apologies for being unable to return your promptness in kind. However, please also rest assured that I'll do my very level best to compensate for whatever loss of points I might be incurring as a result of my non-reciprocity on the timeliness score by really kicking out the jams wrt quality, either when I return later this evening or tomorrow. And finally, as an interim measure, please accept my best wishes to you, both for a happy holiday and a life that's crowded with occasions for the giving of thanks all the year round.

So à bientôt for now, and thanks once again for allowing me to start my day with an unexpected increase in my overall sum total of reasons for feeling personal gratitude. I very much appreciate it, and promise that I'll do whatevr I can to demonstrate the truth of that sentiment when I'm at greater leisure to do so.

Sincerely yours,

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Postby Kate Dixon » Thu Nov 26, 2009 4:28 pm

CTW

Well you give thanks and thanking gives.
Blessings....

This case will go on for probably years, and have unexpected turns, so there is plenty of time to post away...

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Postby Dr_Doogie » Fri Nov 27, 2009 3:32 am

Kate Dixon and Virginia McCullough claim to be objective journalists, but the actions betray them more as the public relations "crisis response team" for alumni of Cabazon Arms. Just look at which cases grab their attention and what they say about them:

Richard Hamlin: His defense was that his wife was under the influence of her father, Sid Seimer, who worked for Cabazon Arms. KD and VM did their best to bury Hamlin and he ended up being sentenced to life for what was nothing more than a domestic violence case. Mission accomplished!

Philip Arthur Thompson: This vile human being has been responsible for the deaths of many people - Cloer, Winter, MacDonald, Sailer, Morasca, Quick, and I believe ultimately he will be linked to the Alvarez triple murders too along with probably many others. Yet, VM and KD tried their best to tweak public opinion against the prosecution's case. Hell, VM even joined the defense team for Thompson! WTF? You can judge a person by the friends they keep - any friend of Thompson is no friend of justice.

Jimmy Hughes: So far, we have had McCullough complaining that the sealed indictment against Hughes was "bare-boned" - yes, Virginia, it was sealed! That is what a sealed indictment is - it hides the details for a period of time for some reason approved by the courts. This is the equivilent of saying that a stealth fighter doesn't exist because it doesn't show up on radar - hell, that is the friggin' point!

And now we have Dixon laying the groundwork to sway public opinion by innuendo against Rachel Bagley. Kate, Rachel was never disbarred by the CA Bar Association for fraud and stealing from her clients - can you say the same? http://desertfae.com/dixon.htm All Rachel ever did was audio/videotape a conversation with Hughes at a book signing - a public place with no expectaion of privacy.

I personally do not trust either of these women. I do not believe that their goal is the truth.
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Postby Jeff » Fri Nov 27, 2009 3:52 am

Doogie:

Suggesting a poster is purposefully spreading disinformation is not permitted.


http://rigorousintuition.ca/board/viewtopic.php?t=9030
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Postby Dr_Doogie » Fri Nov 27, 2009 4:08 am

I can understand that as a general policy, but what is the procedure when there is actual documentable disinformation being spread? And when the agenda behind the disinfo is so easily discernable? There certainly is no love lost between Bagley and Dixon/McCullough, but only one side has demonstarted an attempt to influence and interfer with several investigations while purporting to be objective journalists. These two women hide beind the facade of "reporting the news" when they are about as objective as Jeff Gannon. Does merely joining this site and posting something give that poster a "free pass" for all of the other information that they have posted all over the internet? If so, then Gannon should have posted here and this rule would have shut off all commentary about him being a shill on RI.

Would it help if I posted exact quotes from their site to demonstrate my accusations? I will edit the last paragraph of the offending post to reflect it as my opinion, not a statement of fact. Perhaps that will help.
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Postby Jeff » Fri Nov 27, 2009 8:51 am

Never a bad idea to consult the posting guidelines:

Suggesting a poster is purposefully spreading disinformation is not permitted. The charge or insinuation of "disinfo agent" can almost never be proven, and it poisons and often ends the discourse. If you have evidence that a poster is a disinfo agent, IM me with it.


Also:

Please refrain from personal attacks, and let's try to keep arguments issue-based.
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