Planned Parenthood and the Magician's Other Hand - and stuff

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Postby Allegro » Thu Feb 24, 2011 12:31 pm

Jeff wrote:This seems to me a reasonable thread in which to post such unfathomable, crazy-making shit. [REFER.]
Okay, I'll add more of Franklin's crazy-making shit, right here.
Bobby Franklin's Wiki page wrote:Bobby Franklin is a member of the House of Representatives in the U.S. state of Georgia. Franklin is a Republican representing District 43, which encompasses parts of northern Cobb County. His official biography on the Georgia General Assembly's website reads: “Representative Franklin has been called ‘the conscience of the Republican Caucus’ because he believes that civil government should return to its biblically and constitutionally defined role.”

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Franklin has sought to abolish Georgia′s Road and Tollway Authority and Department of Health and Human Services. Franklin is an opponent of public schools, stating on his weekly blog that, "The State Has No Jurisdiction To Educate Our Children — Period!" Rep. Franklin commented that public schools are a "sinking ship" and he believes that private and home schooling are a better alternative for Georgia.

In 2011 he proposed, in House Bill 14, to amend Georgia state criminal code so that the term “rape accuser” be substituted for the phrase “rape victim” unless there is a conviction; the bill infuriated victims′ advocates. In House Bill 1, a bill Franklin proposed that would outlaw abortion, a provision is included that would require that every "spontaneous fetal death" have its cause investigated by the "proper investigating official."

In January 2011, Franklin sponsored a bill that would do away with driver′s licenses in the State of Georgia. Franklin stated that the licenses represented “oppressive times” and “licensing of drivers cannot be required of free people, because taking on the restrictions of a license requires the surrender of an inalienable right.” He further stated that the freedom of movement by operating an automobile should be open to all Americans, regardless of age or driving skills. He cemented these beliefs by noting that he does not object to 12 year old children driving cars on Georgia Highways.

Franklin is a fierce opponent of abortion and gay rights. Franklin holds that America has strayed from its Christian past and the country needs to be changed into a Christian nation. Franklin believes that legislation that is in direct opposition to God's word will bring about the wrath of God. In 2010, Franklin stated, "Islamic terrorism is not the greatest threat facing America. God is." Franklin claims that President George W. Bush "praises the gods of pagan religions." [REFER.]
I've got this ongoing impulse to laugh, but it stops before it gets started.

Anyway, here's Franklin's page, which has his holiness's photo over at Georgia's House of Representatives.
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Postby DevilYouKnow » Thu Feb 24, 2011 1:05 pm

What Would Jesus Do? Throw the first stone, apparently.
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Postby compared2what? » Fri Feb 25, 2011 1:24 am

Nordic wrote:
compared2what? wrote:You can choose to work toward changing it. But it is work. Hard work. And furthermore, hard work that may never pay dividends that you live long enough to enjoy. Or you can choose not to do it, if you prefer. That's entirely up to you. Try to know it for what is is, though. Either way. Because it's not as faceless, vast and menacing as the very reductive summation above suggests. Nothing that's really alive ever is. It just feels that way sometimes.


Sorry, there's more of that myth. Right up there with the Horatio Alger and the whole "a relationship can be successful if you just work hard enough at it".

No! Anything of real import to them, they have locked up. They won't let you have the choice. The establishment has the game locked up. Especially now with the Diebold voting and all of that nonsense.

The only way to get anywhere is to get the whole system changed, from the ground up. The system itself is what's rotten, so you can't win using THEIR rotten system.

It's a myth. And it's one of those myths that keeps us under their thumb.

"Yeah, we're just not working hard enough, that's it. We're just lazy! If we REALLY wanted to, we could get out there and change things!"

Nah, and even if you got farther than they ever expected, they'd just fucking kill you .


Horatio Alger? Any relationship can work if you just work hard enough at it? You misunderstood me. But I'm sure that I'm at least 50 percent responsible for that. And maybe more.

In any event, that's not what I meant at all.

No big deal, though.
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Postby Pele'sDaughter » Wed Mar 09, 2011 10:11 am

http://www.alternet.org/health/150168/f ... _lawmakers

Female Sexuality Still Terrifying to Conservative Lawmakers
The dusty old argument that female sexuality is a subversive force that needs to be strictly controlled is alive and well in the GOP.
March 8, 2011

The Republican attack on Planned Parenthood, in the form of the House zeroing out funding for the organization in the continuing resolution on the federal budget, seemingly came out of nowhere. For decades, the kinds of services provided with federal dollars by Planned Parenthood---contraception, STD testing and treatment, cancer screening---had been assumed non-controversial by the Beltway media. The reproductive rights debate was framed mainly as a fight over bodily autonomy versus fetal life, between secular humanists and religious folks who believed fertilized eggs had souls.

So why then an attack funding STD treatment and contraception? Why, all of a sudden, do you have politicians like Rep. Steve King railing against Planned Parenthood not because of fetal life---after all, depriving women of contraception access will likely increase the abortion rate---but because Planned Parenthood is “invested in promiscuity”? Why do you have a conservative figurehead like Sean Hannity arguing not that abortion is wrong because it’s taking a life, but because teenage girls shouldn't be making out in the back seats of cars in the first place? Why is Gov. Scott Walker not only attacking collective bargaining rights in the state of Wisconsin, but trying to eliminate contraception coverage (but not erectile dysfunction medication) on the grounds of “morality”?

The dusty old argument that female sexuality is a subversive force that needs to be strictly controlled isn’t as dead as we thought. The mainstream conservative movement is bringing it out of hibernation, and this time with a twist: now they’re arguing that women need to have their rights taken from them for their own good.

In the decades prior to Griswold v. Connecticut and Roe v. Wade--the Supreme Court decisions that legalized contraception and abortion, respectively--the arguments for restrictions on women’s reproductive rights barely needed explanation. Millennia of male dominance, from the mythology of Eve to the The Seven Year Itch, held that female sexuality so threatened the bonds of society that controlling it took precedence over allowing women rights. But after these groundbreaking Supreme Court decisions established women’s right to privacy, opponents of reproductive rights were forced to switch gears.

Enter the fetus. Striking a pose of concern for “fetal rights” allowed the anti-choice movement to attack at least one tool women use to claim ownership over their own sexuality, and sadly, anti-choicers made dramatic inroads against abortion rights hiding behind the fetus. But claims about fetal life don’t produce a clear path to arguing against access to contraception and medical care for STDs. Not that conservatives haven’t tried. The fringe of the anti-choice movement has attacked (at times, with mild success) contraception access with claims that hormonal contraception is a form of abortion, but this kind of argument is stalled because of the scientific and common sense evidence against it.

Returning to arguments that paint female sexuality as a corrosive force that must be controlled by restricting women’s rights has been a steady desire in the anti-choice movement. But how, when the public sees the sadism in that argument for what it is? The answer that conservatives have happened upon is to argue that women need to be denied their rights for their own good.

For years now, arguing against women’s rights for women’s supposed wellbeing has been worked with surprising success on the already contentious field of abortion. Arguments that women are victims of their own freedom have been successfully wielded to restrict women’s access to abortion. In various states, legislators have passed mandatory waiting periods and ultrasound laws by arguing that they need to protect women from their own rash decisions. Even the Supreme Court engaged with the paternalistic argument, banning a certain later-term abortion procedure because, as Justice Kennedy explained in the majority decision, women might later regret the decision.

After years of using paternalism against abortion rights, Republicans have taken twinning the majority in the House as the signal to expand the “restrict women’s rights for their own good” arguments to contraception. The initial target is Planned Parenthood, but it will likely not be the last.

Fringe anti-choicers have been trying out arguments that contraception is bad for women for years now in their own circles. The gist of it is that the widespread availability of contraception has lured naïve women into thinking they can have sex whenever they want, and the result has been nothing but misery for women: serial abortions, abandonment by men, depression and loneliness. Men, the argument goes, are no longer forced into marriage with women who withhold sex or get pregnant to trap men. And apparently women need begrudgingly formed marriages to be happy.

In support of defunding Planned Parenthood, you’re seeing this “contraception begets sex begets misery for women” argument repeated in far more mainstream channels than you would have even a few months ago. National Review editor Kathryn Lopez attacked Planned Parenthood on the grounds that access to contraception had killed romance and laid waste to women’s chances at marriage. (How she explains the profits of the wedding industry in an era when people have supposedly stopped marrying is beyond me.)

Ross Douthat took Lopez’s argument and gussied it up with tortured statistics, while making essentially the same argument in the New York Times. Male commitment is the necessary ingredient for female happiness, he argued, and Planned Parenthood inhibits women from this goal by allowing sexually active single women the same access as the monogamous. Women should want to lose their access to affordable contraception, he insinuated, as it would turn them from cat-owning spinsters into girlfriends and maybe even wives.

Most disturbingly, the supposed feminist Democrat of Fox News, Kirsten Powers, argued in the Daily Beast that contraception doesn’t even prevent abortion. Her unique twist on the argument that women’s rights hurt women was not that rights deprive women of husbands so much as depriving them of babies, by tricking them into not reproducing. The basic argument is the same: women are too stupid to know what they want, and so the government will have to take away contraception for their own good.

Even if Planned Parenthood survives this attempt to strip it of its federal subsidies, the anti-choice movement has gained a significant amount of rhetorical ground in the past few months. Arguments that women can’t be trusted with contraception were resigned to fringe blogs decorated with fetal guts in the past, but now the very same radical anti-sex arguments are being bandied around in the Daily Beast and the New York Times. The mainstream assumption that contraception isn’t controversial has been challenged. Next time contraception access gets threatened---likely when the HHS tries to make birth control mandatory coverage under health care reform---these arguments will be trotted out. Next time, they won’t seem quite as radical.
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Postby DevilYouKnow » Wed Mar 09, 2011 3:43 pm

I thought it was obvious to anyone that "pro-life" was always about gynophobia.
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Postby justdrew » Wed Mar 09, 2011 4:01 pm

too bad this clear majority decided to sit out the last election. Now we're probably going to loose what little is left thanks to people not voting for democrats.

That's the fact. too bad if you can't accept it. it's not a perfect world, you vote for the best choice, not the ideal choice.

Pew poll: Clear majority of Americans support legal abortion
By Sahil Kapur
March 8, 2011 @ 9:56 am

A new survey by the Pew Research Center [1] finds that a comfortable majority of Americans support keeping abortion legal -- posing a challenge for Republicans pushing aggressive measures aimed at curtailing abortion rights.

Fifty-four percent of the public supports legal abortion in all or most cases, while 42 percent believe it should be illegal in all or most cases, the poll found. The figures reflect a rise in support for abortion rights over the last two years.

In 2009, the same Pew survey found the general public much more evenly divided, supporting abortion rights by a margin of 46 to 44 percent. Last summer, the gap was 50 to 44 percent in favor of legal abortion.

Polling by Gallup found in 2009 [2] and 2010 [3] that a plurality, if not a majority, of Americans considered themselves "pro-life" as opposed to "pro-choice." Gallup last year labeled pro-life "the new normal" on abortion.

In the new Pew survey, Americans were predictably split on the issue along party lines, but independents said they support legal abortion by a remarkable 20-point margin (58 to 38 percent).

Upon taking control of the House in January, Republicans have made it a high priority to curtail abortion rights, primarily by advancing HR 3, "The No Taxpayer Funding For Abortion Act."

The sweeping measure, approved last week by the Judiciary Committee, expands the Hyde Amendment by eliminating employer or individuals tax deductions for any insurance plan that covers abortion -- even if it carrying the pregnancy to term may harm their health [4]. The House has also voted to defund Planned Parenthood [5], one of the largest providers of women's reproductive health-care.

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[1] Pew Research Center: http://people-press.org/report/?pageid=1920
[2] 2009: http://www.gallup.com/poll/118399/more-americans-pro-life-than-pro-choice-first-time.aspx
[3] 2010: http://www.gallup.com/poll/128036/new-normal-abortion-americans-pro-life.aspx
[4] may harm their health: http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/03/03/house-republicans-to-pregnant-women-fetal-life-is-more-important-than-your-health/
[5] defund Planned Parenthood: http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/02/18/house-votes-to-cut-off-funding-for-planned-parenthood/
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Postby Allegro » Thu Oct 18, 2012 8:49 pm

Highlights mine.

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Dr. Musimbi Kanyoro | President and CEO, Global Fund for Women
Huffington Post | 18OCT12

    During the first presidential debate, neither President Obama nor Governor Romney addressed the issue that affects half the world’s population: women’s reproductive rights. As the two square off on foreign policy, women’s reproductive rights must be addressed because whomever becomes president will not only determine U.S. women’s personal, economic and educational choices, but also those of women worldwide.

    The candidates’ positions on women’s reproductive rights couldn’t be starker.

    President Obama has defended women’s reproductive rights. Under the Affordable Care Act, President Obama ensured women had access to copay-free birth control. He appointed two Supreme Court Justices that were committed to upholding Roe v. Wade, and he has opposed conservative state policies mandating ultrasounds before women have an abortion. When Pennsylvania Governor Tom Corbett told women to “close your eyes” if they didn’t want an ultrasound, Obama responded, “Women across America aren’t closing their eyes. As long as I’m president, I won’t either.”

    While Mitt Romney may support abortion in “the case of rape and incest, and the health and life of the mother,” he has pledged to overturn Roe v. Wade and repeal Obamacare, ending near universal birth control coverage for millions of women. He also plans to “get rid of” Planned Parenthood, which does not receive any government dollars for abortions, but would cut off access to birth control and breast cancer screening for millions of women
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    Who becomes president in 2013, however, won’t just impact American women. In 2011, the United States contributed $648 million for family planning and reproductive care, making it the world’s largest donor.

    Three words signify how U.S. foreign policy has impacted women’s reproductive rights worldwide: global gag rule. Put into law by George W. Bush, it banned federal funds to family planning organizations abroad. If any program even discussed abortions, they were de-funded. As a result, numerous women’s health clinics were forced to close. Dr. Gill Greer of International Planned Parenthood Federation says that during those eight years, they lost over $100 million for family planning and health programs. The dire consequence of losing these critical funds: 36 million unplanned pregnancies and 15 million induced abortions.

    According to the Guttmacher Institute, 603 million women in the developing world now use birth control. An estimated 215 million women -- one in six women -- who want to delay or cease childbirth, however, cannot access contraception. If women had access to family planning, one in three deaths during pregnancy and childbirth could be prevented.

    Not only do investments in women’s access to family planning save lives, there is now a mountain of evidence of how the pill, by enabling women to delay pregnancy, has allowed women to invest in their education and skills. In fact, a study by University of Michigan economists credits the pill in narrowing the earnings gap between men and women by 30 percent.

    While women need more than family planning and reproductive health services to achieve equal rights and realize their full potential, it has undeniably helped women advance their educational and economic opportunities. Ensuring women’s reproductive rights can also make a significant contribution to easing pressure on our world’s natural resources.

    In 2011, the global population surpassed the 7 billion mark. If unaddressed, the world’s population will grow to 9.3 billion by 2050, which will further stress water and energy shortages
    . According to the National Center for Atmospheric Research, providing family planning to all women who want it could reduce up to 15 percent of essential carbon emissions.

    Recognizing the power of investing in women’s reproductive health, Melinda Gates recently raised $2.6 billion from private donors to support family planning programs worldwide. Her courage to say publicly that family planning saves lives backs what millions of women have been saying for decades: that a nation’s security, prosperity and progress are inextricably linked to the status of its women.

    Today, 1.2 billion are aged 15-24. By giving these girls and young women the choice to decide when and if she will have children, we are investing in a brighter future for her and all of us in the form of more investments in human development and eased pressure on our planet. By ensuring reproductive health to women whom need it will empower them and greatly improve the health and well-being of their children. The next U.S. president will determine which direction we go.

    Musimbi Kanyoro, PhD is the President and CEO of the Global Fund for Women. She is also on the HighLevel Task Force for the International Conference on Population and Development.
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Postby brekin » Sun Oct 21, 2012 11:37 am

This has come up before in other threads but it is good to remember Prescott Bush was involved in Planned Parenthood from the beginning.
In fact recently after the debates Larry King reminded viewers that he helped found it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prescott_Bush
Bush was politically active on social issues. He was involved with the American Birth Control League as early as 1942, and served as the treasurer of the first national capital campaign of Planned Parenthood in 1947. Bush was also an early supporter of the United Negro College Fund, serving as chairman of the Connecticut branch in 1951.

From 1947 to 1950, he served as Connecticut Republican finance chairman, and was the Republican candidate for the United States Senate in 1950. A columnist in Boston said that Bush "is coming on to be known as President Truman's Harry Hopkins. Nobody knows Mr. Bush and he hasn't a Chinaman's chance."[9] Bush's ties with Planned Parenthood also hurt him in heavily Catholic Connecticut, and were the basis of a last-minute campaign in churches by Bush's opponents; the family vigorously denied the connection, but Bush lost to Benton by only 1,000 votes.
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Postby JackRiddler » Sun Oct 21, 2012 12:11 pm

brekin wrote:This has come up before in other threads but it is good to remember Prescott Bush was involved in Planned Parenthood from the beginning.


It's good to remember any and all history, but why do you think this is relevant?

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Postby brekin » Sun Oct 21, 2012 12:38 pm

brekin wrote:This has come up before in other threads but it is good to remember Prescott Bush was involved in Planned Parenthood from the beginning.


JackRiddler wrote:
It's good to remember any and all history, but why do you think this is relevant?


Well its obvious that many conservatives in power care very little for the welfare of poor-middle-class families
nationally and internationally. They pragmatically probably want to keep birthrates down for these classes if
for no other reason to maintain traditional demographic bases of support. I wouldn't be surprised if many are
pro-abortion for "them" but have to parrot the party line on being anti-abortion for religious reasons. Since they are
more than willing to starve, ghettoize, poison and have these classes shot in the streets and blown up overseas I
doubt they are earnest about ending abortion for these classes and probably even still like Prescott clandestinely
promote it. Like the Gladio stuff, it seems like it is in their interest to play both sides, even try to control and fund both sides for political division.
(What does Obama really have come November to sell to Lib's other than he won't outlaw abortion?)

There are major sectarian differences on abortion between Dems and Repubs, but I think for the elites they really don't give a shit.
Granted there are extremists who are useful idiots that probably go too far on their own accord.
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Postby brekin » Tue Mar 12, 2013 11:31 pm

Found this on George H. Bush and Planned Parenthood.

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http://boingboing.net/2011/09/27/when-t ... anger.html

Back in the Nixon administration, George Bush (the elder) congratulated family planning advocates on all their successes:

As United States Ambassador to the United Nations under the Nixon Administration, President George H.W. Bush (the first President Bush) wrote a letter to Alan Guttmacher (founder of the Guttmacher Institute) congratulating him on creation of a "family planning" stamp commemorating (gasp!!) Margaret Sanger.

This was in the good ol' days: Republicans were for it before they were against it. The Bush family sat on the board of Planned Parenthood and in numerous and sundry other ways supported global efforts to promote access to family planning services. While women's rights have always been political, this was before it became fashionable and politically expedient to quite obviously sacrifice both evidence and women's bodies openly on the altar of electoral gains.
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Postby FourthBase » Tue Mar 12, 2013 11:33 pm

Hmmm..."such worldwide importance"?
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Postby 8bitagent » Wed Mar 13, 2013 12:01 am

brekin wrote:Found this on George H. Bush and Planned Parenthood.

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http://boingboing.net/2011/09/27/when-t ... anger.html

Back in the Nixon administration, George Bush (the elder) congratulated family planning advocates on all their successes:

As United States Ambassador to the United Nations under the Nixon Administration, President George H.W. Bush (the first President Bush) wrote a letter to Alan Guttmacher (founder of the Guttmacher Institute) congratulating him on creation of a "family planning" stamp commemorating (gasp!!) Margaret Sanger.

This was in the good ol' days: Republicans were for it before they were against it. The Bush family sat on the board of Planned Parenthood and in numerous and sundry other ways supported global efforts to promote access to family planning services. While women's rights have always been political, this was before it became fashionable and politically expedient to quite obviously sacrifice both evidence and women's bodies openly on the altar of electoral gains.



Yes, it's true GOP of yesterday was a bit different than it is today in *some* regards...but remember, Nixon once secretly mentioned how he was glad for abortion when it came to black people.
Bush Sr's father was one of the original Planned Parenthood board members, and I do find it important(as we still here of forced sterilization and eugencis cases) to not forget about the racial eugenics horror show
that comprised of the original National Birth Control league. I am very glad Planned Parenthood exists, and fully support them but I also recommend documentaries like Maafa21.
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