8/17 Bachmann="Quiver Movement," 8/18 Quivers"almost killed"

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Re: 8/17 Bachmann="Quiver Movement," 8/18 Quivers"almost kil

Postby barracuda » Sat Aug 20, 2011 2:20 am

Hugh Manatee Wins wrote:barracuda, give the board an example of psyops.


No homework assignments for me, please Hugh. I'm having enough trouble trying to puzzle out the OP.
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Re: 8/17 Bachmann="Quiver Movement," 8/18 Quivers"almost kil

Postby 82_28 » Sat Aug 20, 2011 2:21 am

I don't think we should "gang up" on anybody, but if Hugh is as smart as is purported, he will understand there are other people with mental faculties on par with his and just quit his obsessions on this shit. WE GET THE DISNEY CIA THING -- we also probably think you may have a case. Don't "head case" yourself, man, with the one site that intently listens to and reads you. You are "accepted" here. Why the fuck not? But you are accepted. This is what is most important.

I've said it before, but I used to go on and on with people back in 2007 ish about how much shit you caught, Hugh -- how much I believe you got right. And I thought you had a lot of interesting points and I made it known in meat and cyber space. But we're no closer to the answer other than RI people like to banter essentially about the end of everything and how heartbroken we are. You really need to move onto "solution" mode, empathy mode, what-do-we-do-now mode. Not telling you what to do, but we all must really move on, here at RI. It won't happen and that is fine. I don't want us to move on, I still want to study it all. But Hugh, you changed my life over fucking SIX YEARS ago. I won't forget it. I've never looked at a billboard or ad since, the same. Much of our website is fueled by Hugh power.

We need to get you agreeable again and working on new data, my friend. One thing I've been doing is our website. But if you, got into searching true historical archives you would fully find a new calling. I sure have! Go and salvage history, comment away on it, but salvage it before it disappears, my friend. And I do mean, friend. . .
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Re: 8/17 Bachmann="Quiver Movement," 8/18 Quivers"almost kil

Postby wordspeak2 » Sat Aug 20, 2011 10:05 am

What I think's tragic is that I believe Hugh's basic premise is totally correct, and a fair amount of his examples are probably true, as well. Many others, though, are really bizarre and off the wall and prompt (board-illegal but almost understandable) reactions like, "You need psychological help."

Do you drink a lot of caffeine or something, Hugh? If you just slow down... pick your battles more carefully... you might really help expose how intelligence agencies run sophisticated ongoing psy-ops through the media. If not you might just be doing harm to that cause.
Please.
Also, your 100%-right-always approach makes you come off like a computer. A little more humanity, and maybe we'll all win.
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Re: 8/17 Bachmann="Quiver Movement," 8/18 Quivers"almost kil

Postby seemslikeadream » Sat Aug 20, 2011 10:16 am

A little more humanity, and maybe we'll all win. :P

To the hu man i ty in hugh :lovehearts:
Mazars and Deutsche Bank could have ended this nightmare before it started.
They could still get him out of office.
But instead, they want mass death.
Don’t forget that.
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Re: 8/17 Bachmann="Quiver Movement," 8/18 Quivers"almost kil

Postby Hugh Manatee Wins » Sat Aug 20, 2011 11:05 am

...pre-coffeee....

1) The...keyword...is Quiver,...a unique and memorable word, unlike "full" which I accidentally left off my op yet a bizarre focus was placed on this and myself.
QUIVER.

2) Bachmann's real background is being whitewashed. Lots of spin.
Bachmann's real "Bronze Age misogynist racist theocratic mythology" (as whistleblower Frank Schaefer broadcasted on 8/17/11)
...is "hostile information" to be minimized to protect the Pentagon's civilian facade known as the Republican Party.
Military doctrines declare religion to be a "force-magnifier" and the Pentagon gets lots of recruits from Bible-ists in the Old Slave South of the United States.
So the fact that the Republican Partiy's current lead candidate would not only
>alienate the majority of potential voters but also
>make some Christians look more closely at their fellow Christians instead of assuming they were just like themselves...is a problem to be minimized.

3) Viral marketing is used to sell every product, including and especially psyops as the heritage of a World War Two-era book much used by the Office of War Information and Office of Spcial Services, 'The Psychology of Rumor.' More on how people spread information is in my thread here-
viewtopic.php?f=44&t=18585

4) It is easy to create keyword-based viral marketing as counterpropaganda
...which the Pentagon defines in Army Field Manual FM 33-1 as "any action taken to minimize the effect of hostlie propaganda."

5) In this case, which has all the fingerprints of viral marketing-as-counterpropaganda, all it took was was tracking celebrity Robin Cook using her cellphone or GPS tracker on her car and then attacking her with an expert driver who could do the
"360" Robin described so vividly. The "360" SPIN fits in perfectly as a mirror of the Bachmann problem, all her lying and spinning.
The driver merely gets a wrist-slap, probably a hefty fee, and remains military-protected using the channels mil-intel has all over the place.

6) The media spaces, people's chatter, and search results get a huge dose of DECOY at the exact time that Bachmann's crazy 'Quiver Full'-background could have become much better known. Problem minimized.


Not too hard to grasp the gist of this as I originally stated it in the op in shorthand.
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Re: 8/17 Bachmann="Quiver Movement," 8/18 Quivers"almost kil

Postby Hugh Manatee Wins » Sat Aug 20, 2011 11:50 am

Wombaticus Rex wrote:[So Hugh,
.....
you're asserting that Robin Quivers deliberately got into a car accident/was set up for a car accident either in concert with or because of the CIA, in response to a TYPO that was published on the Democracy Now website the day before?[/b] Do I have that correct?


Nope. The radio show was on over 900 stations and right after the much-publicized Iowa straw poll event.

http://www.pacifica.org/
It's important to consider that Pacifica Radio's Democracy Now news show broadcasts on the air (plus internet streaming w/archives)
in 5 major cities-
Washington D.C.
New York
Los Angeles
San Francisco
Houston

WR wrote:Meanwhile, HuffPo Runs a Bachman/Quiverfull article on March 13, 2011 yet the CIA didn't kill anyone to get that out of the news cycle -- why?

Timing. The Iowa straw poll coverage.

And now you bring up another keyword hijacking that is informative. It it's television, it's spookery.

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Meanwhile, it's not the Quivers movement but the Quiverfull movement and their media-hungry celebrity exemplars, the Duggar Family, have a TV reality show -- gosh, who signed off on that at Langley?

TV programming is 100% psyops.
Besides encouraging youth to stay single and recruitable by showing them *what can happen* (hey - Juno!) can you figure out the keyword and meme-hijacking?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_L._Dugger
.....
Richard L. Dugger was Secretary of the Florida Department of Corrections from 1987 to 1991,[1] when Harry K. Singletary, Jr. took over.[2]
Dugger was warden of Florida State Prison from 1982 to 1987, when he was appointed Secretary of the Department of Corrections by then Florida Governor Bob Martinez.[3] During his tenure, the Department started a large campaign to combat prison overcrowding.[1]
Dugger was appointed deputy director of institutions for the Florida Department of Corrections in 1999, replacing Stan Czerniak, and in 2000, was appointed director of institutions for the Florida Department of Corrections.[3]


http://www.gainesville.com/article/2011 ... /110309810
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Prosecutors: Area businessman Dugger was still pushing kickbacks in 2009

The Gainesville businessman who pleaded guilty Wednesday to a kickback scheme that toppled a state prison administration, apparently cut his plea deal with federal prosecutors days after they announced they would be using new evidence against him.

It involved another case also alleging he was offering kickbacks for state prison deals.

Edward Lee Dugger, 64, of Gainesville, pleaded guilty Wednesday to conspiracy to pay kickbacks and will be sentenced in July.

The case was tied to those of former Department of Corrections secretary James Vernon Crosby Jr. and Allen Wayne Clark, a regional prison manager. They were convicted of accepting $130,000 worth of kickbacks from Dugger's canteen business, American Institutional Services of Gainesville.

When Crosby and Clark entered plea deals in the case, federal investigators said that for nearly two years in the mid-2000s, Dugger and Joseph Arthur Deese, 38, of Fort White, paid prison officials to establish a business relationship with the state and with Keefe Commissary Network of St. Louis. The arrangement allowed the company to run a “lucrative, predominantly cash business” at canteens in Florida prisons, according to federal investigators.
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Re: 8/17 Bachmann="Quiver Movement," 8/18 Quivers"almost kil

Postby wordspeak2 » Sat Aug 20, 2011 2:02 pm

"..pre-coffeee...."

I knew it! That coffee stuff turns good people a little nuts.

I do wonder about Robin Quivers' car accident. I don't listen to Howard Stern... what is Robin Quivers like?
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Re: 8/17 Bachmann="Quiver Movement," 8/18 Quivers"almost kil

Postby barracuda » Sat Aug 20, 2011 2:16 pm

Hugh Manatee Wins wrote:...pre-coffeee....

1) The...keyword...is Quiver,...a unique and memorable word, unlike "full" which I accidentally left off my op yet a bizarre focus was placed on this and myself.
QUIVER.


Is it really surprising or bizarre that people would focus on your accidental misquotation in this context? If you want people to understand what you're trying to do, it makes a huge difference.

In what way is "quiver" a more unique or memorable word than "full", though?

2) Bachmann's real background is being whitewashed.


Are you kidding? The evangelical vote is her lifeline in this campaign. Her connection to the christian right is stressed in every appearance she makes. It is a positive, not a negative attribute of her candidacy.

The notion that evangelicals, or Christians generally, should have lots of children is a huge selling point here, and hardly controversial within the Republican party. She trots out her TWENTY-NINE CHILDREN at virtually every single appearance she makes on television and the campaign trail. X-treme family values, man. It's what the Republican psyop is built upon, foundation and brick of it.

5) In this case, which has all the fingerprints of viral marketing-as-counterpropaganda, all it took was was tracking celebrity Robin Cook using her cellphone or GPS tracker on her car and then attacking her with an expert driver who could do the "360" Robin described so vividly.


Seems simple enough. The CIA crashed a car into Robin Quivers to shield Michelle Bachmann's religious beliefs from Republican voters by highjacking the widely broadcast keyword from Goodman's show. Okay. Except that Robin Quivers' accident happened on the 14th of August, three days before the Democracy Now broadcast.

6) The media spaces, people's chatter, and search results get a huge dose of DECOY at the exact time that Bachmann's crazy 'Quiver Full'-background could have become much better known. Problem minimized.


To accept this I have to accept that:

    - Somehow most people cannot differentiate between Robin Quivers and the Quiverfull movement because the words sound smilar, leading me to believe most people cannot adequatedly differentiate any two or more similar words, which explains why puns are so mysteriously unfunny.

    - The people who listen to Democracy Now on Pacifica are having their thoughts about Michelle Bachmann's religious beliefs overshadowed in their conversations by the news regarding Robin Quivers.

    - There is a huge overlap between people interested in Amy Goodman's political investigations and those interested in the vagaries of life for Robin Quivers.

    - Michelle Bachmann's religious beliefs constitute an image problem for her in the Republican primary which must be dealt with by executing a covert op involving a car crash and the attempted murder of a famous radio personality.

    - The CIA possesses direct inside foreknowledge of the exact wording of a live interview on Democracy Now far enough in advance to have planned and executed a pre-crime type scenario against this clarivoyantly obtained crucial databite three days or more in advance. Remote viewing, anyone?

Unfortunately, I don't believe any of those things. At least, I'm not willing to take them on faith.

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Re: 8/17 Bachmann="Quiver Movement," 8/18 Quivers"almost kil

Postby Wombaticus Rex » Sun Aug 21, 2011 10:47 pm

Quick NLP swipe:

Hugh Manatee Wins wrote:C'mon, you coincidence theorists and HMW-attackers. Pull this reality out of psyops world. Just try.


Wombaticus Rex wrote:So again, I want to clarify the case you're making here so we can discuss the merits of what you're saying with this post.


Hugh Manatee Wins wrote:O.M.G.

The nonsense posted by barracuda and Wombaticus Rex on page one are unbelievable obfuscations and distortions of an obvious psyop-by-car-attack keyword manipulation of the news cycle.


"Who makes sense? Who creates artificial disqualifications of logic?" - Hugh.

As barracuda has pointed out, Robin Quivers got into a car accident on Sunday, August 14th -- your contention is that this was done because of a news story on Wednesday, August 17th. Does this seem like a chronology problem to you, Hugh?
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Re: 8/17 Bachmann="Quiver Movement," 8/18 Quivers"almost kil

Postby barracuda » Sun Aug 21, 2011 11:49 pm

This whole "keyword car-crash" idea would make a decent B movie. I'm thinking Catherine Zeta-Jones as Michelle Bachmann, and for the Robin Quivers role, Ben Affleck.

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Re: 8/17 Bachmann="Quiver Movement," 8/18 Quivers"almost kil

Postby wordspeak2 » Mon Aug 22, 2011 3:19 pm

Barracuda wrote:
"She trots out her TWENTY-NINE CHILDREN at virtually every single appearance she makes on television and the campaign trail. X-treme family values, man. It's what the Republican psyop is built upon, foundation and brick of it."

Wait. Five children and twenty-three foster children, according to Wikipedia. But your point taken- fundamentalist religion is a cornerstone of her campaign. It's Jon Hunstman who's courting the centrist vote; all the other candidates (ok, except Ron Paul) are racing as far right as possible.
Bachmann's got no real chance, anyway. It's a dude. We're looking at Perry or Romney.
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Re: 8/17 Bachmann="Quiver Movement," 8/18 Quivers"almost kil

Postby beeline » Mon Aug 22, 2011 3:32 pm

wordspeak2 wrote:"..pre-coffeee...."

I knew it! That coffee stuff turns good people a little nuts.

I do wonder about Robin Quivers' car accident. I don't listen to Howard Stern... what is Robin Quivers like?


Robin Quivers is...well difficult to sum up. Now I'd say she is fairly well-adjusted, if not somewhat aloof and maybe a little pretentious. But she had a difficult life early on, and went through a very crazy period in the '90s when she was impossible to deal with, she couldn't keep an assistant longer than 6 months. She's got a good heart, I think, she has several rescue cats, and her own charitable foundation:

http://www.15foundation.org/
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Re: 8/17 Bachmann="Quiver Movement," 8/18 Quivers"almost kil

Postby wordspeak2 » Mon Aug 22, 2011 6:36 pm

So a liberal/humanitarian, at least.

And at one point several years ago Howard Stern made some 9/11 truth comments, yes? I dunno...
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