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by 2012 Countdown » Fri Sep 09, 2011 12:26 pm
by 8bitagent » Fri Sep 09, 2011 3:44 pm
by Nordic » Fri Sep 09, 2011 3:49 pm
Although the story of the CIA’s actions in the run-up to 9/11 is complicated, at a fairly early point in any examination of them it becomes clear the agency committed multiple failures, and that these failures enabled the attacks to go forward. The key issue that remains in dispute ten years on is whether these “failures” were deliberate or simply the product of overwork and incompetence. Making an informed judgment means taking the time to look at all the failures, put them in order, and analyze what it all means.
Perhaps the most comprehensible problem is the scope of the CIA’s failings. There was not one error by some lowly neophyte, but a massive string of failures. As Tom Wilshire, one of the key CIA officials involved in the withholding of the information commented to the Congressional Inquiry, “[E]very place that something could have gone wrong in this over a year and a half, it went wrong. All the processes that had been put in place, all the safeguards, everything else, they failed at every possible opportunity. Nothing went right.”
It goes on ....
by IanEye » Fri Sep 09, 2011 4:04 pm
8bitagent wrote:And why were members of the performance art group "B THING" who staged the 2000 WTC window experiment living with these
Israeli spies in both Hollywood Florida and next to Hamas funders in Texas?
by 8bitagent » Fri Sep 09, 2011 4:09 pm
IanEye wrote:8bitagent wrote:And why were members of the performance art group "B THING" who staged the 2000 WTC window experiment living with these
Israeli spies in both Hollywood Florida and next to Hamas funders in Texas?
i would like to hear more about this one.
by IanEye » Fri Sep 09, 2011 4:40 pm
8bitagent wrote:
by Jeff » Fri Sep 09, 2011 7:16 pm
The world after 9/11: Naomi Klein prevails again
Gerald Caplan
Globe and Mail Update
Published Friday, Sep. 09, 2011 1:21PM EDT
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Of the million stories that reflect the world since that moment, here’s the one I find most revealing. As a direct result of toiling in the ruins of the twin towers, many New York firefighters, police officers and other emergency workers became seriously ill, some terminally. These “first responders” have been lauded to the hills for their heroism, often in the most cringe-worthy manner by craven political opportunists. Saints, they were, saints, my dears, and we’ll never ever forget their sacrifices.
Late last year, the American government proposed a bill to provide funding to aid these damaged saints. A no-brainer, eh? Not in post-9/11 America. In fact the Republican members of Congress united to oppose such funding unless the tax cuts George Bush had gifted to the top 2 per cent of Americans were extended. Only when they were shamed publicly by Jon Stewart did the Republicans finally relent. But fear not. They of course won those continuing gifts to the filthy rich when President Barack Obama caved on raising America’s credit limit.
Writ small, this is the history of the post-9/11 world in the United States, in Canada, in Britain, and wherever else business interests and conservative politicians have been able to have their way with us – us being the vast majority of the world’s population.
In the aftermath of 9/11, George Bush liked to hear himself say that the terrorists were motivated by their hatred for America’s freedoms, for the American way of life, and not of course by brutal American policies in the Middle East. So how to retaliate? Easy peasy. When the going gets tough, the tough go shopping. Shopping, Mr. Bush inspirationally declared, was exactly the best revenge. But if you’re laid off or can’t pay your mortgage or on minimum wage or your wages are being squeezed and your pension cut and your union broken and social services slashed – all goals American conservatives set decades ago, now ramped up after 9/11 – well, it kind of limits your purchasing power.
Yet at the same time, Mr. Bush told good guys everywhere that what we all needed to do after 9/11 was to accept “shared sacrifices” in the deadly battle to combat terrorism. Some sacrifices. Some sharing. In fact, what Mr. Bush and his allies did was to escalate a class war on both the economic and the culture front. Conveniently enough, the same cabal of extremist billionaires are funding both flanks of this two-front war. The upshot is that never before have so few sacrificed so little while so many have paid the price, led by those who died – both as fighters and as victims – of the wars that Bush and Co. launched or incited.
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As for the economic class war, it’s the universe exposed by Naomi Klein’s revelatory book, The Shock Doctrine – the story of how America’s “free market” policies have come to dominate much of the world through the exploitation of people and countries destabilized by recent disasters. What might have appeared to be isolated incidents, Ms. Klein showed to be a carefully calculated pattern:
“At the most chaotic juncture in Iraq’s civil war, a new law is unveiled that would allow Shell and BP to claim the country’s vast oil reserves. …. Immediately following September 11, the Bush Administration quietly out-sources the running of the ‘War on Terror’ to Halliburton and Blackwater. … After a tsunami wipes out the coasts of Southeast Asia, the pristine beaches are auctioned off to tourist resorts. ... New Orleans’s residents, scattered from Hurricane Katrina, discover that their public housing, hospitals and schools will never be reopened.”
Let’s add Haiti, where last year’s earthquake led to an immediate push for more North American-owned factories paying the below-subsistence minimum wage the United States had forced on Haitian governments. Add too the catastrophic economic collapse engineered by the geniuses of Wall Street, enriching themselves beyond the dreams of avarice while crushing everyone else. Not to mention the shameless pressure for even more deregulation of the kind that enabled the meltdown.
Throw in the latest elite consensus, backed by most mainstream media, of the urgent need for austerity on the part of those already hurt most by the tough times, while the filthy rich don’t know what to do with their ludicrous fortunes. In France, Hermes, the luxury fashion house, can’t produce enough of their $800 scarves and $10,000 purses to meet demand. Maybe it’s because Posh Beckham has scooped up 100 Hermes Birkin bags that cost well over $2-million. The austerity! The austerity!
The objective of the economic class war has always been simplicity itself: inequality, the greater the better. And it’s working like a charm. In the United States, and to a growing extent in Canada, it is now politically impossible ever to discuss the need to raise taxes, even on the filthy rich, in order to sustain any kind of positive government.
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by slimmouse » Fri Sep 09, 2011 9:00 pm
by 8bitagent » Sat Sep 10, 2011 12:39 am
slimmouse wrote:
Watching the BBC today, the talking head spoke of " the ritual " that will be the remembrance service taking place this weekend. Nuff said really.
by 8bitagent » Sat Sep 10, 2011 5:49 am
by 2012 Countdown » Sat Sep 10, 2011 6:27 am
by whipstitch » Sat Sep 10, 2011 1:43 pm
by 8bitagent » Sat Sep 10, 2011 3:12 pm
2012 Countdown wrote:Its too bad no MSM 'reporter' has even the remotest curiosity about these many and layered 'coincidences' Its really unbelievable, but they're everywhere.
Focus on what you want 8bit. Hopsicker has his things, Ruppert had his, etc. We gather up to see this elephant for what it is.
by 8bitagent » Sat Sep 10, 2011 3:15 pm
whipstitch wrote:On the afternoon of 9/11, I was flipping channels and heard both George Stepanopoulus and Senator Bob Kerry remark in different interviews: "this is the first terrorist attack we've had in the US since TWA flight 800". In both cases the reporter interviewing them just moved on to the next question (no surprise there). Never saw a word about this anywhere since... but I know what I heard.
by 2012 Countdown » Sat Sep 10, 2011 3:24 pm
8bitagent wrote:2012 Countdown wrote:Its too bad no MSM 'reporter' has even the remotest curiosity about these many and layered 'coincidences' Its really unbelievable, but they're everywhere.
Focus on what you want 8bit. Hopsicker has his things, Ruppert had his, etc. We gather up to see this elephant for what it is.
Oh I'm done. This is pretty much the last I ever want to talk about 9/11...it's robbed me a lot of my time and energy. Same with a lot of this "deep state" stuff. It's just sad so many youth know nothing BUT a "post 9/11" world. When I have kids hopefully they won't hear of it and people will have struck down a lot of the Bush Obama Orwellian stuff.
9/11 is a Trivial Pursuit game for people online. I don't mean that in a bad way, as lord knows from 2004-2011 I "was there". But like Trivial Pursuit, what do you "win"? With Obama in power,
very few of even the liberals who "asked questions" still question the "official story".
The 9/11 Truth stuff became a religion, complete with dogma, endlessly repeated phrases, mantras, etc. It's all a black hole.
Seriously, in 30 years are we going to be floating in pods with our holocube internets arguing "the twin towers were clearly demolished, wake up!" "no, it was structural failure! get a like tinfoil hat nutter"...meanwhile the environment is all destroyed and we're breathing through specialized oxygen masks.
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