The IanEye Theory of Personality

[Project Willow]

More than a few of the rest of us have what might be termed psychological conditions, too.
You and the few other people are not the only people in the world who live with a stigma.
If there were eugenicists weeding out the "mentally defective", they'd come for me, too.

This thread isn't about your condition. You singled out a different group.

Dude walks into the IRL Saloon, points to table of people, and announces, "I've got a theory I want to explore that compares your defects to, you know, normal people." Dude would be exiting the Saloon in a horizontal position.

My mistake was going up to the guy and trying to reason with him, and the usual feeding frenzy that occurs when the singling out of a group of "others" is tacitly approved, ensued.

My approach is: Whatever Is True.
Sorry about the feelings, but they come second.

You can't get to truth without empathy.

[FourthBase]

More than a few of the rest of us have what might be termed psychological conditions, too.
You and the few other people are not the only people in the world who live with a stigma.
If there were eugenicists weeding out the "mentally defective", they'd come for me, too.

This thread isn't about your condition. You singled out a different group.

Dude walks into the IRL Saloon, points to table of people, and announces, "I've got a theory I want to explore that compares your defects to, you know, normal people." Dude would be exiting the Saloon in a horizontal position.

My mistake was going up to the guy and trying to reason with him, and the usual feeding frenzy that occurs when the singling out of a group of "others" is tacitly approved, ensued.

Excuse me, but: You are not excused. You posted ominous images related to the historical eugenicist project to exterminate and sterilize the...whatever you want to call it, call us -- the mentally-ill, the psychologically-gifted, the defective, the special, the differently-sane, the most-perceptive. Whatever. Your group within that subset is not the only group that would be persecuted by any resurgent eugenics movement. My name is on a list, too, the list of mentally-undesirables, the list that would be consulted in any sinister sorting. (Should I -- do I need to -- put "mentally-undesirables" in quotes? And even if I do, will you understand that I do not myself subscribe to that view? And if you understand that, anyway, will you nevertheless act like you don't, in order to score moral high ground points?) You attempted to wield that ominous scenario as a trump card of privilege, as something that was supposed to put others like me to shame. Sister, on the contrary. Shame on you. Get thee to a mirror, you might not like what you see, but you need to see it. It's your hypocrisy, and it sucks. Please, work on it.

My approach is: Whatever Is True.
Sorry about the feelings, but they come second.

You can't get to truth without empathy.

Second. Not absent.

[BrandonD]

What an interesting hypothesis/theory!!!

Perhaps we have one set of IanEye-ian personae in our brains, another set in our guts, another in our spines, hearts. Actually (re-reading) your post contains multiple captivating hypotheses. Have you derived the essence from other sources, or are you, too, a pioneer of intuition?

Very happy you enjoyed it!

The idea has sort of coalesced over time, and I started thinking about it again recently while in a discussion with someone about whether a "self" exists or not. Ideas like "self" and "personality" are those types of things often talked about but poorly understood, IMO. It just makes me think about how much of the world we simply take for granted as "known", for little other reason than our common language and terminology.

[crikkett]

Dude walks into the IRL Saloon, points to table of people, and announces, "I've got a theory I want to explore that compares your defects to, you know, normal people." Dude would be exiting the Saloon in a horizontal position.

PW, Nice violent imagery. Is Jeff's board your saloon? The bouncers here don't like bullies who threaten personal attacks, and the rules of conduct are posted for all to see.

[sw]

Truth can be right in front of you but you might not see it if you don't hold within yourself empathy and compassion.

From: Dissociative Identity Disorder: Diagnosis, Clinical Features, and Treatment of Multiple Personality: Colin A. Ross 1997

From the introduction: The diagnosis of DID does not imply that there is anything fundamentally wrong with the person who has the disorder. There is no evidence to date that there is anything wrong with the brains, or the genes, of people who have DID. Although it is likely that the psychobiology of extreme, chronic childhood trauma involves alterations in the brain function, nothing conclusive to this effect has been demonstrated in DID. Nor does the diagnosis imply that the person is "hysterical" or in any way bad, inferior, or weak. DID is, however, a true psychiatric disorder. It has an etiology, phenomenology, treatment, and prognosis that differentiates it from any other disorder.

DID is based not on defect but on talent and ability.

[FourthBase]

Truth can be right in front of you but you might not see it if you don't hold within yourself empathy and compassion.

From: Dissociative Identity Disorder: Diagnosis, Clinical Features, and Treatment of Multiple Personality: Colin A. Ross 1997

From the introduction: The diagnosis of DID does not imply that there is anything fundamentally wrong with the person who has the disorder. There is no evidence to date that there is anything wrong with the brains, or the genes, of people who have DID. Although it is likely that the psychobiology of extreme, chronic childhood trauma involves alterations in the brain function, nothing conclusive to this effect has been demonstrated in DID. Nor does the diagnosis imply that the person is "hysterical" or in any way bad, inferior, or weak. DID is, however, a true psychiatric disorder. It has an etiology, phenomenology, treatment, and prognosis that differentiates it from any other disorder.

DID is based not on defect but on talent and ability.

So...you're saying...mania and depression...are defects?

Being a "true psychiatric disorder" versus being a "defect" = semantics.

You know what else has a defect? Whoops, sorry..."defect"? Answer: Everything. Nothing and no one is a perfect Platonic ideal. In fact, a "defect" could be the very source of an individual's strength, an artifact's beauty. [sarcasm]But, no, hey, let's tie ourselves in politically-correct knots to satisfy a need to find and blame a "bully" for hurting our feelings, that's so productive, and not ironic or hypocritical at all in being itself an assertion of epistemic micro-class privilege or a reverse-witchhunt or an exercise in victim-blaming. Or, more accurately perhaps, an exercise in self-defeating and wholly-gratuitous persecution of teammates for the false crime of aiding and abetting persecution of the team. Great, yeah, that all makes a lot of sense.[/sarcasm]

[brekin]

sw wrote:Truth can be right in front of you but you might not see it if you don't hold within yourself empathy and compassion.

From: Dissociative Identity Disorder: Diagnosis, Clinical Features, and Treatment of Multiple Personality: Colin A. Ross 1997

From the introduction: The diagnosis of DID does not imply that there is anything fundamentally wrong with the person who has the disorder. There is no evidence to date that there is anything wrong with the brains, or the genes, of people who have DID. Although it is likely that the psychobiology of extreme, chronic childhood trauma involves alterations in the brain function, nothing conclusive to this effect has been demonstrated in DID. Nor does the diagnosis imply that the person is "hysterical" or in any way bad, inferior, or weak. DID is, however, a true psychiatric disorder. It has an etiology, phenomenology, treatment, and prognosis that differentiates it from any other disorder.

DID is based not on defect but on talent and ability.

So...you're saying...mania and depression...are defects?

Being a "true psychiatric disorder" versus being a "defect" = semantics.

You know what else has a defect? Whoops, sorry..."defect"? Answer: Everything. Nothing and no one is a perfect Platonic ideal. In fact, a "defect" could be the very source of an individual's strength, an artifact's beauty. [sarcasm]But, no, hey, let's tie ourselves in politically-correct knots to satisfy a need to find and blame a "bully" for hurting our feelings, that's so productive, and not ironic or hypocritical at all in being itself an assertion of epistemic micro-class privilege or a reverse-witchhunt or an exercise in victim-blaming. Or, more accurately perhaps, an exercise in self-defeating and wholly-gratuitous persecution of teammates for the false crime of aiding and abetting persecution of the team. Great, yeah, that all makes a lot of sense.[/sarcasm]

Strange days.
If DID isn't a problem, disorder, defect, etc...why treat it then?
If it is based on talent and ability...why would those who suffer from it seek treatment?
I'm just not following the logic. If you suffer from DID, then you suffer because it is a disorder.
If you don't suffer and also have DID then that is a whole other ball game. I'd like to know the
numbers on that.

But I don't see how something that is linked likely to

the psychobiology of extreme, chronic childhood trauma involves alterations in the brain function

but at the same time

There is no evidence to date that there is anything wrong with the brains or the genes, of people who have DID

.
The facts of a neurological condition seem to be losing to a "I'm OK You're OK" mentality.
Next epilepsy will be just another talent or ability.
(don't quote me Dostoyevsky)

[sw]

DID is a gift or talent of a sort that helps a young child survive extreme and prolonged trauma.

Then, you grow up and the way you learned to cope in the ongoing torture/ rape holocaust of a childhood does not work well, at least for me, when I became an adult.

From my experience, I would rank the biggest things that cause dis-ease in human beings is indifference followed by hate. Speaking just for me and not for anyone else.

[FourthBase]

DID is a gift or talent of a sort that helps a young child survive extreme and prolonged trauma.

Then, you grow up and the way you learned to cope in the ongoing torture/ rape holocaust of a childhood does not work well, at least for me, when I became an adult.

From my experience, I would rank the biggest things that cause dis-ease in human beings is indifference followed by hate. Speaking just for me and not for anyone else.

I second that notion with every fiber of my being.

[brekin]

From my experience, I would rank the biggest things that cause dis-ease in human beings is indifference followed by hate. Speaking just for me and not for anyone else.

I second that notion with every fiber of my being.

From what I've gleaned indifference followed by hate may be "better" than indifference followed by lack of emotion.
Some view DID as also (or) an attachment disorder due to the primary caregivers parenting style.
Trauma applied by a emotional detached caregiver (Neglectful) can possibly cause more depersonalization in the victim
compared to trauma applied by negative emotional caregiver (Authoritarian). Obviously neither are beneficial or
preferred, some research though shows that more dissociation tends to happen in the victim under the Neglectful
style.

The chart is confusing but Authoritative and Authoritarian are different styles with Authoritative the preferred.
(Freedom with guidance compared to Permissive which is freedom without guidance or boundaries)