DC Capitol Shooting 2013

[8bitagent]

I hate to be the one to bring this up...but was anyone else surprised that both the Navy Yard shooting and then this incident was by "deranged" African Americans? Yes, I was one of those convinced the DC Sniper
was a lone white guy. I'm not saying there is a link between the Navy Yard or Capitol car chase event. But hey, least there's now diversity in these events? A working class black woman, gotta mix it up.

And yeah, chances are that child won't remember this. Just seriously f'ing sucks they won't have their mom. This woman needed counceling and it sucks she had to die.

[Carol Newquist]

but was anyone else surprised that both the Navy Yard shooting and then this incident was by "deranged" African Americans?

Can you elaborate? No, I haven't watched the video and won't. I hate watching this kind of crap.....it feels too much like Fahrenheit 451. It's become a form of live entertainment for many. Perhaps you can discuss our augmentation with technology and the coverage of these events...how they're communicated and digested. Was the woman black? Wow, these kinds of acts are really Equal Opportunity these days, if so. Can we now replace those boxes on government forms where they ask your race and/or ethnicity with just one box that says Potential Future Terrorist? Might as well at this point. It's where it's all headed if not there already.

[justdrew]

this doesn't fit with that, at all. this is not "one of those incidents"

Sometimes people get startled and lose their shit and do stupid things, it looked to me like she might have taken a wrong turn, not seen the raised bars in the road (the 'gate') and just ran into them. Then freaked completely out at the wild response. It sounds to me like the only ones shooting were the authorities, mistaking their own gunfire and they shot one of their own in the fusillade.

So far I don't think we have any reason to think she was acting crazy, it could be as simple as an overactive Flight response, or/but also... an attempt to flee people shooting at her baby. The roads there are a little weird. Could easily have just been an accident.

[Carol Newquist]

And yeah, chances are that child won't remember this. Just seriously f'ing sucks they won't have their mom. This woman needed counceling and it sucks she had to die.

Don't underestimate the effect this traumatic incident could have on this child. Yes, it may not remember it consciously the same way a ten-year-old might, but the stressful effects of this event will be encoded and embedded in its psyche and will have a permanent effect on its formation.

http://gizmodo.com/5494516/could-a-traumatized-baby-become-batman

Could a Traumatized Baby Become The Joker?

A 7-month-old baby witnessed her parents' murder in Brazil Mexico. Can a baby remember a horrific event like a 10-year-old who might recall the horrific sight and sound, in graphic detail? Yes and no, Slate explains.

You can't create conscious memories until you're about 2 years old, but babies do respond to to traumatic events—deafening sounds, stress in people around them—with their own stress reactions, and dead bodies freak them out, even if they don't understand the concept of death, exactly. Also, according to some theories, they might have an implicit memory, where a baby who sees somebody stabbed to death with a knife might get agitated when they see a knife months later. There might be mid-term psychological effects, too, like being more violent playing with toys months later, or less outwardly emotional. So it's possible a baby Bruce Wayne might still have become Batman. Say, if his parents had left the theater because he was crying as an infant, even though he wouldn't remember exactly what happened, he might still have developed the same sense of guilt, and still be plagued by many of the same requisite psychological issues that led him to become Batman. In other words, memories don't have to be etched into our brains in precise detail in order to haunt us, even the faintest impressions they leave behind might be more we wish.

[Carol Newquist]

this doesn't fit with that, at all. this is not "one of those incidents"

Even if it's not, for the majority of the population the window of opportunity to explain it's not has closed because of the rapidity of communication and the power of first impressions. Can you say WMD's or Al Qaeda in Iraq? Same mechanism is at play. If you poll U.S. citizens, a significant number of them still believe there were WMD's in Iraq and there was a nexus between Saddam and Al Qaeda....even though both reported claims have been proven to be verifiably false. Why is this? Because "they" knew that the power of first impressions means you lead quickly with the message you want encoded for good. This strategy works like a charm, you have to admit. To many, this incident regardless of later coverage to the contrary, will be an incident involving yet another wacko terrorist freak.

[Carol Newquist]

So far I don't think we have any reason to think she was acting crazy, it could be as simple as an overactive Flight response, or/but also... an attempt to flee people shooting at her baby. The roads there are a little weird. Could easily have just been an accident.

Holy Shit!! If so, my earlier points are all the more salient and poignant. I'm canceling the class field trip to DC after this. It's not beyond these freaks to mow down a class of visiting elementary students at this juncture (hat tip to Bush Sr.) if what you're saying has merit and is verified. I'm still standing by the comment of little pink pills for houses, though...or is it the other way around....sell the little pink houses, or do a reverse mortgage on them, for the little pink pills?

[seemslikeadream]

the way the woman was driving she could have killed her own child

for someone to give their expert opinion on what happened and have not even watched the video of what actually happened is bizarre

[elfismiles]

I'm not joking and the female newsanchor seemed to say it non-ironically.

Reports are calling her crazy and suggesting she believed "Obama was stalking her" ... we'll see ... but the "wrong-turn" and "fight or flight" respnose, to me, holds some possible merit.

They are saying depression, postpartum,

Heard a newscaster on Bloomberg say the incident "occurred at 2nd and Constitution so it's likely not political."

A shooting "at 2nd and Constitution." With guns. Not political.

I hate to ask a dumb question: Did someone really say that or is that just a clever joke?

Woman in DC chase may have thought Obama was stalking her, sources say
Courtesy Dr. Barry Weiss
Miriam Carey, the woman authorities say rammed her car into the White House gates and led police on a chase before she was shot and killed.

By Pete Williams and Erin McClam, NBC News

The woman who led authorities on a chase from the White House to the Capitol before she was killed by police may have thought that President Barack Obama was stalking her, law enforcement sources told NBC News.

The sources said that the woman, Miriam Carey, had a history of mental health problems.

The chase, on Thursday afternoon, stirred panic in the capital and briefly stopped the mechanisms of government. It happened two weeks after a man shot 12 people to death at the Washington Navy Yard.

Members of the House and Senate, in a standoff over the government shutdown, were ordered to stay in place. One lawmaker was cut off mid-sentence during a speech. A swarm of police startled tourists who were taking in Washington on a summery day.

Advertise | AdChoicesCarey, 34, was a dental hygienist living in Stamford, Conn. Details of her background began to emerge in the hours after the episode.

Dr. Barry Weiss, a dentist, told NBC Connecticut that Carey was working for him in January 2012 when she suffered a fall and missed two to three weeks. He said that she appeared increasingly stressed after an unplanned pregnancy. Relatives have said that she may have suffered postpartum depression.

Weiss said that he fired her in August 2012 after patients complained that she was too rough.

Carey was driving a black Infiniti sedan when, just after 2 p.m. ET, she struck a security fence outside the White House. She took off after hitting a Secret Service officer with her car.

From there, police said, she sped up Pennsylvania Avenue toward the Capitol, reaching 80 mph at one point. Police and the Secret Service stopped her at the foot of the Capitol, but she jammed the car into reverse and took off again as police opened fire.

Carey led police on a chase around the perimeter of the Capitol and crashed her car outside a Senate office building a few minutes later, police said. The police shot at her, and she died a short time later. The chase was captured on video.

A Capitol police officer was hurt as he was speeding to confront her and hit a barrier that popped up in the street. The two injured officers were exempt from the government shutdown and required to work but were not being paid.

Carey had an 18-month-old child, believed to be her daughter, in the car, authorities said. The girl was taken to a hospital and found to be unharmed. She was in the protection of social services Friday.

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/10 ... s-say?lite

[elfismiles]

I hate to be the one to bring this up...but was anyone else surprised that both the Navy Yard shooting and then this incident was by "deranged" African Americans? Yes, I was one of those convinced the DC Sniper
was a lone white guy. I'm not saying there is a link between the Navy Yard or Capitol car chase event. But hey, least there's now diversity in these events? A working class black woman, gotta mix it up.

And yeah, chances are that child won't remember this. Just seriously f'ing sucks they won't have their mom. This woman needed counceling and it sucks she had to die.

Capitol Hill Violence: Miriam, Biblical Sister of Aaron

Washington D.C. has been hit by another shooting incident that captured the media's attention. The US Navy Yard shooting left 12 dead and the gunman, Aaron Alexis.

Today something more bizarre occurred.

NBC reports:

A woman who tried to force her car through a White House security fence Thursday afternoon was shot and killed by police after a 12-block chase past the Capitol, which was locked down for a half-hour, authorities said.

The suspect — a dental hygienist with a history of mental issues, according to sources — had a 1-year-old child with her who was not hurt, police said.

One Secret Service officer was struck by the woman's car, and a Capitol Police officer was injured when he slammed into a barricade during the pursuit.

The U.S. Capitol was placed on lockdown following a car chase and shooting involving a woman who attempted to ram the White House gates.
All the shots fired came from the officers involved in the pursuit, and the woman — identified as Miriam Carey, 34, of Stamford, Conn. — did not have a gun, law-enforcement sources said.

The woman seemed to be doing the unthinkable.

The Washington Post tried to understand what had happened.

Her sister, Amy Carey, a Brooklyn nurse, was incredulous when she was reached Thursday afternoon and told what had happened outside the Capitol.

“That’s impossible. She works, she holds a job,” said Amy Carey, who confirmed that her Stamford-based sister drove a black car. She said she knew of nothing that would bring her sister to Washington. “She wouldn’t be in D.C. She was just in Connecticut two days ago, I spoke to her... I don’t know what’s happening. I can’t answer any more.”
What does the woman's name Miriam Carey mean?

Miriam is the original Hebrew form of Mary. It is used in the Old Testament, where it belongs to the elder sister of Moses and Aaron. It has long been popular among Jews, and it has been used as an English Christian name since the Protestant Reformation.

Carey is from an Irish surname which was derived from Ó Ciardha meaning "descendent of Ciardha," derived from Irish ciar "black".

A black woman in a black car with a black name attacking the White House of our first black president?

For several incidents of late, as in this one, AfricanAmericans have been the foci.

There are no coincidences.

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After years of workplace shootings and "random" acts of mass violence in schools, malls, and other settings being linked to "lone nut" Caucasian males, we have entered a period of intense media attention to African-American/black individuals being involved.

June 21, 2013 ~ Lakim Faust (African-American shooter)

August 19, 2013 ~ Michael Brandon Hill (Caucasian shooter) targets African-American school, formerly named after George Washington Carver, which was renamed after Ron McNair (who went to another Carver HS)

August 30, 2013 ~ Christopher Lamont Richardson Jr. (African-American) targets Carver HS, a traditional African-American HS

September 1, 2013 ~ Daquan Breland and Daquan Wright (African-American shooters) kill African-American infant

September 4, 2013 ~ Hispanics target African-Americans, kill Joshua Broussard

September 16, 2013 ~ Aaron Alexis (African-American shooter) kills 12 (see also here)

http://copycateffect.blogspot.com/2013/10/Miriam.html

[elfismiles]

The New Normal: A Drill A Day Keeps Terrorists At Bay.

There's always a drill ... because that's the new normal - we're always drilling for the next attack / disaster.

http://www.army.mil/article/112429/Capi ... s_Capital/

D.C. Cops Running Drill on Same Day as Capitol Shooting
First responders participated in drill to “perfect their skills”
Adan Salazar / Infowars.com / Oct. 3, 2013

A joint training exercise ending today, in addition to barricades and checkpoints placed at the White House, may have played a role in the horrific police execution of a woman today at the nation’s capitol.

Capital Shield 14 trained first responders to “perfect their skills”

According to a report featured on Army.mil, this is the last day federal, state, local and municipal agencies will be testing “interagency operability during a crisis impacting the District of Columbia,” as part of a joint exercise known as Capital Shield 14.

“Capital Shield 2014 is a joint training exercise in the National Capital Region, or NCR, that runs from Sept. 30 thru Oct. 3, and is hosted by the Joint Force Headquarters – National Capital Region,” the army’s report says. The NCR includes Washington, D.C.’s metropolitan area.

The drill “also trains and prepares the Department of Defense to provide defense support to civil authorities and employ appropriate force protection measures as requested,” force protection measures necessary to protect the homeland like those employed today in the brutal shooting of the 34-year-old dental hygienist.

The ongoing drill might be one reason first responders were in a heightened state of alert when they shot the panicked mother at least 12 times, who was likely just lost in a maze of government shutdown and joint training exercise barricades and checkpoints.

According to the Washington Post, the woman ran “into a security checkpoint at 15th Street and Pennsylvania Avenue NW. The driver went about 20 yards, B.J. Campbell said, before rapidly turning the car around at the concrete security barriers.”

The fact the woman, reportedly Miriam Carey from Stamford, Conn., was not armed didn’t stop media from reporting there were “shots exchanged” at the Capitol, nor did it stop officers from responding with lethal force, nor did it stop D.C. Police Chief Cathy Lanier from saying the officers “acted heroically.”

One can only hope Capital Shield 2014 trains law enforcement to react in a better manner than they did today, where a 20-car police chase could barely catch a lone woman in a car who we are learning had a “history of mental health issues.”

http://www.infowars.com/d-c-cops-runnin ... -shooting/

Congress Gives Standing Ovation to DC Cops For Executing Unarmed Mother

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dM_flkAhBNk

[seemslikeadream]

And yeah, chances are that child won't remember this. Just seriously f'ing sucks they won't have their mom. This woman needed counceling and it sucks she had to die.

Don't underestimate the effect this traumatic incident could have on this child. Yes, it may not remember it consciously the same way a ten-year-old might, but the stressful effects of this event will be encoded and embedded in its psyche and will have a permanent effect on its formation.

http://gizmodo.com/5494516/could-a-traumatized-baby-become-batman

Could a Traumatized Baby Become The Joker?

A 7-month-old baby witnessed her parents' murder in Brazil Mexico. Can a baby remember a horrific event like a 10-year-old who might recall the horrific sight and sound, in graphic detail? Yes and no, Slate explains.

You can't create conscious memories until you're about 2 years old, but babies do respond to to traumatic events—deafening sounds, stress in people around them—with their own stress reactions, and dead bodies freak them out, even if they don't understand the concept of death, exactly. Also, according to some theories, they might have an implicit memory, where a baby who sees somebody stabbed to death with a knife might get agitated when they see a knife months later. There might be mid-term psychological effects, too, like being more violent playing with toys months later, or less outwardly emotional. So it's possible a baby Bruce Wayne might still have become Batman. Say, if his parents had left the theater because he was crying as an infant, even though he wouldn't remember exactly what happened, he might still have developed the same sense of guilt, and still be plagued by many of the same requisite psychological issues that led him to become Batman. In other words, memories don't have to be etched into our brains in precise detail in order to haunt us, even the faintest impressions they leave behind might be more we wish.

maybe I missed it but I did not read the AGE of the BABIES that they are talking about... all babies at all ages are not alike..your silly article is just that silly

There might be mid-term psychological effect

according to some theories, they might have an implicit memory

might still have developed the same sense of guilt

wow those are some concrete facts you got there

yeah I'd always go to

Brian Palmer is Slate's chief explainer. He also writes How and Why and Ecologic for the Washington Post. Follow him on Twitter.

for expert advice on babies

When Do Babies Develop Memories?
Oct. 30
By Amanda Onion
What's your earliest memory?

Chances are if you think your earliest memory dates from your first year or even early in your second year, it's not real — or at least not one you formed from the actual experience.

Researchers have learned that the area of the brain thought to play a key role in encoding long-term memory matures in spurts. And a study published this week in the journal Nature demonstrates that a major spurt happens after a person's first year and then takes a second year to fully mature.

"Components of early memories may be accurate," says Conor Liston, a graduate student who conducted the Nature study while at Harvard University. "But memories recalled from the first or second year of life are probably not that reliable."

The development of memory in children becomes evident within the first 2 to 3 years of a child's life as they show considerable advances in declarative memory

Why do we forget our early years? And how can this time in our children’s lives be so important when they won’t remember much of it at all?

Most adults can conjure up memories from preschool. Yes, some of us swear we remember our cribs, while others say they’ve blanked on everything until school age, but researchers more or less agree that adults’ earliest memories date back to age three or four. We have a dense amnesia for the first few years of life, and then a period of relatively sparse memories for a few years after that.

The reason we can’t access our early days is a source of debate, and there seems to be not one, but multiple explanations. For example, some psychologists say that for memories to be properly coded long term, a child needs advanced language skills to both store and retrieve her experiences. If you ask a 20-year-old to remember a family trip she took at age two, you’re both using language to pose the question, and asking her to recount the memory back to you in spoken words. Both of these could be a challenge, since she didn’t have language back when the event occurred. And it’s true that memories do seem to stick around the time when fluent language develops.

Another possible explanation for childhood amnesia is that memories develop alongside a child’s self-concept. Little children take time to grasp the idea of themselves as separate beings. The true notion of “me-ness”— being a person with her own thoughts and feelings independent from others — is a work in progress in toddlerhood. Many argue that you can’t log experiences into an autobiographical memory system until you’re able to fully see yourself as a distinct individual.

Of course there’s the simple fact that little brains are still immature, and it’s possible that the machinery needed to code memories, or transfer them from short- to long-term, simply doesn’t exist until later years. The hippocampus — a curved ridge deep in the brain — is central to forming lasting memories. Scientists think that as it matures and strengthens connections to the rest of the brain through childhood, memory storage improves. We know how important the hippocampus is to memory in part because of the famous patient H.M.

Early memories
While this initial finding is fairly modest, the use of this procedure has led to all sorts of new findings about infants’ memories. For example, subsequent studies have later substituted a different mobile for the original to see if the infants can spot the difference, thereby testing whether or not they really remember.

In one experiment infants only 8-weeks-old were trained with the mobile over a period of 3 days for 9 minutes each day. Twenty-four hours later the infants only kicked at above their baseline levels when the same mobile was above their heads. This showed they remembered the particular mobile they had been trained with and not just any old mobile. It was an especially exciting finding because it had previously been thought that long-term memory (and 24 hours is long-term for psychologists) didn’t emerge until as late as 8 or 9 months.

Our memory systems actually work quite well from very early on.Because of this experiment and others like it, we now know much more about infant memory. Our memory systems actually work quite well from very early on. Infants’ memories also seems to work in much the same way as adult memories – it’s just that infant memories are much more fragile.

Carolyn Rovee-Collier argues it is doubtful whether infantile amnesia really exists (Rovee-Collier, 1999). It certainly appears our brains can lay down long-term memories even in the first year of life. The reason it is unusual to retain memories from that time into adulthood is probably because of the limited capacity of our early memory systems and the intervening years during which we inevitably forget.

» This is part of a series on 10 crucial child psychology studies. Read more on the emergence of self-concept, learning, attachment, social behaviour, theory of mind, object permanence, language, play and knowledge.

Rovee, C. K., & Rovee, D. T. (1969). Conjugate Reinforcement of Infant Exploratory Behavior. Journal of Experimental Child Psychology, 8, 33-39.

Rovee-Collier, C. (1999). The Development of Infant Memory. Current Directions in Psychological Science, 8(3), 80-85.

we are now at 10 to 1 as far as sources/facts go for you silly opinion

according to you we would all be insane if a 5 minute one time experience damaged us

[Wombaticus Rex]

So to recap, an unarmed woman was shot to death by police with her kid in the car for erratic driving?

This is scary shit.

Nice to see MSM blitzing her "emotional problems" today -- that totally justifies ending someone's life in a paramilitary operation, and is clearly the MOST IMPORTANT PART OF THE STORY.

[seemslikeadream]

So to recap, an unarmed woman was shot to death by police with her kid in the car for erratic driving?

This is scary shit.

Nice to see MSM blitzing her "emotional problems" today -- that totally justifies ending someone's life in a paramilitary operation, and is clearly the MOST IMPORTANT PART OF THE STORY.

it wasn't just erratic driving...she was ramming the gate and could have run over and killed one of those cops that were trying to stop her...her erratic driving with a 4,000lb weapon could have killed her own child and other innocent bystanders ....the cops did have their weapons drawn from the very beginning and could have shot her right then and there before she backed up and then raced off with that weapon...at that point they had no idea who they were dealing with only that she was trying to ram the gate and the almost ran over a couple of cops trying to get away .. what would you do?

[Wombaticus Rex]

...what would you do?

Not what you'd do, apparently.

[seemslikeadream]

...what would you do?

Not what you'd do, apparently.

maybe do something to save the baby in the back seat?

but I wouldn't have shot anyone because I would never have had a gun in the first place