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Burnt Hill » Sat Dec 17, 2016 2:21 pm wrote:

guru, please hang in there. The more you are castigated, the more I'm certain you are on the right path

Why do you think this dandc?
What evidence has been produced that some here may fear?
What is the path that castigation reveals as right?
To me, nothing has been shown that wasn't already known.

Guru seems to understand what many do not, that the more powerful the perpetrators, the greater their exclusive right to name and define "reality", and the more completely that their arguments will prevail on their word alone. They do not need to provide evidence, proof, or anything of substance to back their claims. Psychological, physical, emotional, sexual, etc. trauma is an affliction of the powerless, not the powerful, and he's doing what all of us should be doing, searching for the truth. Yet for all of his trouble, he's crucified, so to speak. Why is that? Why is it that so many here are so concerned with protecting the powerful and condemning anyone who investigates for themselves? I don't know the answer to that. All I know is that for some reason people are attacking guru instead of looking into very disturbing evidence that makes it very clear that something diabolical is at play.

I think almost everyone here understands what you ascribe to only your guru.
That's why some of us are so tight about being shown some reliable evidence.
We get it, so show me. That's why this episode has been so disappointing.
Nothing has been revealed against perpetrators of abuse.

Am I reading it wrong to say that 4B and guru promised the big reveal?
And then we received a steady stream of confirmation bias?
And little soirees in 4chanville?
That's not good enough.

Burnt Hill » 17 Dec 2016 14:45 wrote:I think almost everyone here understands what you ascribe to only your guru.
That's why some of us are so tight about being shown some reliable evidence.
We get it, so show me. That's why this episode has been so disappointing.
Nothing has been revealed against perpetrators of abuse.

Am I reading it wrong to say that 4B and guru promised the big reveal?
And then we received a steady stream of confirmation bias?
And little soirees in 4chanville?
That's not good enough.

When exactly did I promise a big reveal? About what?
Or did you just conjure that out of thin air?

You were already marked down for me as Team Debunking Pizzagate, but now you are venturing into Team Ignore territory.

Anyone answering the first two is a fool.

Pizzagate is as real as it ever was. It is going to be our Dutroix, our Casa Pia, our Savile, our Pickton. And if you leftists finally connect Pizzagate to Franklin, it could mean a mass bipartisan revolt, and unlike Belgium, Portugal, England, and Canada, we Americans are a revolutionary-ish people.

Just wait, a little longer, and see.

But in the meantime...what, nobody was impressed by Trump plucking Kanye from a psych ward?

the result of Pizzagate should have been an official investigation to obtain evidence or the absence thereof;

rhetorical question: why did this not happen? (given the WORST of what we saw, not the sketchier, less substantive, easily debunked stuff)

same goes for the Epstein case!

Well 4B, if you haven't promised "the big reveal" before,
then you have now.
So how have I misrepresented your pov?
Has it changed?

tapitsbo » Sat Dec 17, 2016 4:32 pm wrote:the result of Pizzagate should have been an official investigation to obtain evidence or the absence thereof;

So what do you present to the judge to obtain a warrant?

What contained in the Voat sub's "Fully Sourced Executive Summary" do you think would justify an investigation: https://goo.gl/1FHkzr

FourthBase wrote: connect Pizzagate to Franklin

A solid, direct connection there would be significant but I'm not aware of any.


P.S. 4B, I'm glad you're okay!

Burnt Hill » 17 Dec 2016 15:47 wrote:Well 4B, if you haven't promised "the big reveal" before,
then you have now.
So how have I misrepresented your pov?
Has it changed?

You really, really want to corner and discredit me, eh? I wonder why. If I haven't promised one before...lol, and I DID NOT, and yet YOU SAID I DID. That, to me, is a big reveal, about your character. On my informal ignore list you go. Bye!

Elvis » 17 Dec 2016 15:55 wrote:

FourthBase wrote: connect Pizzagate to Franklin

A solid, direct connection there would be significant but I'm not aware of any.


P.S. 4B, I'm glad you're okay!

You're in Courtroom Zone. All that matters right now, before there is enough pressure to put on authorities to even make armchair courtrooming worthwhile, is Persuasion Zone. You are not giving the masses enough credit. "Direct" is a tall order, unlikely, but "solid" is in the eye of the beholder, and I think most Americans will be able to see a meta link and mentally connect the two as Complementary Pieces of Circumstantial Evidence that We're Ruled by Psychopathic Ghouls. Resignations and suspensions and terminations will be demanded, en masse.

FourthBase » Sat Dec 17, 2016 4:58 pm wrote:

Burnt Hill » 17 Dec 2016 15:47 wrote:Well 4B, if you haven't promised "the big reveal" before,
then you have now.
So how have I misrepresented your pov?
Has it changed?

You really, really want to corner and discredit me, eh? I wonder why. If I haven't promised one before...lol, and I DID NOT, and yet YOU SAID I DID. That, to me, is a big reveal, about your character. On my informal ignore list you go. Bye!

I have absolutely no interest in discrediting you as a human being, or to diminish your pov.
Tool of those without an argument, the ignore button.

tapitsbo » Sat Dec 17, 2016 4:32 pm wrote:the result of Pizzagate should have been an official investigation to obtain evidence or the absence thereof;

rhetorical question: why did this not happen? (given the WORST of what we saw, not the sketchier, less substantive, easily debunked stuff)

same goes for the Epstein case!

What is the worst of what we saw?

Wading through that is work that's already been done here for a patient watcher such as yourself, in my humble opinion.

AN investigation of supposed Pizzagate perps such as Alefantis and Brock surely couldn't hurt?

These guys are maybe innocent, right?

Grizzly » Sat Dec 17, 2016 10:37 am wrote:Spoiler:

Not really. You give off a familiar creepy vibration.

Wtf?!?

You don't speak for me. Nor (dare I say it , can you speak for anyone else here) At best you can say, "Not really. You give off a familiar creepy vibration, to me" (op ed). Singulair. Not for the group in general.
Someone needs read some, ontology fordescriptive linguistics..

No. I was merely contradicting the assertion that any discomfort with aforesaid style of discourse ("research") existed "100%" in the head of one particular poster. I needn't be speaking for anyone else for my statement to be correct.

Ontology isn't particularly relevant to this point.

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Sorry if disagreement and/or distaste for the frameworking style now equals crucifixion. That seems somehow overreactionary.

tapitsbo » 17 Dec 2016 14:47 wrote:Wading through that is work that's already been done here for a patient watcher such as yourself, in my humble opinion.

AN investigation of supposed Pizzagate perps such as Alefantis and Brock surely couldn't hurt?

These guys are maybe innocent, right?

"We're from the Department of Pedo Profiling, show us your art collection or be subject to arrest."

Truly terrifying.