Wombaticus Rex wrote:^^Cosmic Cowbell, that's a most interesting question. Offhand, I'd point you towards the life of Henry "Andrija" Puharich, who swam in both pools -- apparently on gov payroll.
I am well familiar with Puharich, The Nine, Geller, SRI etc. And while they did mix ET and MC in a fashion, they never connected it with Alien Abduction. Most if not all of their work involved "Contact" which to most, is channeled info, and NOT the 4 guys on a lake sucked up into a UFO (Allagash) or 5 guys in a forest with one being 'taken' while the other 4 looked on (and passed polygraph examinations TWICE as to the story) as in Travis Walton's story. Contacteeism and Abduction scenarios are not the same thing. Rarely do you finds 'reptoids' contacting folks, but you 'always' find them in league with the government in abduction/milab accounts. Thanks not to Puharich/Geller/SRI but rather a loose cadre former intelligence agents who seem to be in the 'fear' business.
I'm curious as to why you'd be averse to "shadowy groups" -- considering we're investigating the shadows, it just seems like an odd exception to make. I can understand your aversion to the Dulce/Cooper/Icke Axis of Disinfo, but some darkness comes with the territory. How about Stanford Research Institute? Are they too shadowy? Or the OTO? That's probably too out there, but they're still quite real and quite creepy human beings.
I'm not averse at all. We might as well throw Scientology in here while were at it. I've been thinking I should explain somewhat my strong feelings on this. You see, I live what David Jacobs calls "A Secret Life". And I am not alone. Unfortunately. And one of the reasons I do, is that the whole of Ufology/ETH is mired in the web of deceit propagated by a few former intelligence officers who have done nothing except create mythologies/disinformation that they in turn profit from. Dulce, Reptoids, MC, Chemtrails, Government Conspiracies, Space Brothers, Contacteeism and all the rest are now truly small cottage industries unto themselves. And in order not to be wrapped up or associated with the 'capitalism' of high strangeness and it's direct influence on the sales of Aluminum beanies and handheld Orgone Generators, I am forced to remain silent to all but a few in some attempt to retain my self respect. And I don't like it.
You could say it's personal with me...I hope this is understandable. It may seem as though I am not open minded as to certain hypothesis. I try to be. However, I do have a higher threshold as to what I'm willing to accept. That and my personal experience, which down deep tells me that what comes and takes some of us every so often for whatever unknown reason, is so alien in nature and so far advanced that any attempts to associate them with more mundane MO's such as having a need to be in 'league' with governments in MILAB ops, needing to soul suck or manipulate our atmosphere in some sort of 'invasion' scenario, requires more than simply someone stating 'I believe' when asked for evidence that supports the claim. It is also a two way street. I don't expect to be believed but neither am I trying to convince as to my personal experiences. They are mine.
"Believe those who are seeking the truth. Doubt those who find it" ~ Andre Gide