#OCCUPYWALLSTREET campaign - September 17

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Re: #OCCUPYWALLSTREET campaign - September 17

Postby Nordic » Mon Oct 03, 2011 8:47 pm

Wow I'm kinda shocked -- our local nbc affiliate here in LA is actuallyt covering the NY protests but also the one that has sprung up here in downtown LA.

Then they did a pretty decent piece (by their standards) on student loan debt and how "fucked up that shit" is. Seems a lot of the protesters here are people who are beavily burdened with student debt, provided so benevolently by the same banks that are screwing everything else up.

Very surprised. Usually these local channels are the godawful worst and just cover celebrity gossip and lurid court cases.
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Re: #OCCUPYWALLSTREET campaign - September 17

Postby 82_28 » Mon Oct 03, 2011 8:47 pm

Heaven knows I have no problem with any of that language and encourage it. Guess it's just the way my brain works. I am trying to tone it down though!

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Re: #OCCUPYWALLSTREET campaign - September 17

Postby eyeno » Mon Oct 03, 2011 9:31 pm

You have to be kidding me right? Is this really the official site of the occupy wallstreet movement? Tell me it ain't so...please. After seeing the list of demands I am disappointed. The Greeks went for the jugular vein. So far it doesn't appear as if this site even smells the blood yet. I hope this movement becomes a real force for true change but so far this focus on "higher taxes on the rich" is a bit disappointing.

I thought this was a decentralized movement with nobody speaking for the movement? Is this site for real?

http://occupywallst.org/forum/specific- ... ington-dc/


***On edit, I see that this was in the forum. So I suppose this list of demands is not official. Only comments from a poster in the forum. I was worried there for a minute.
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Re: #OCCUPYWALLSTREET campaign - September 17

Postby Laodicean » Mon Oct 03, 2011 9:37 pm

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Re: #OCCUPYWALLSTREET campaign - September 17

Postby Plutonia » Mon Oct 03, 2011 11:08 pm

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Re: #OCCUPYWALLSTREET campaign - September 17

Postby Laodicean » Mon Oct 03, 2011 11:11 pm

NYU Student Walk Out in Solidarity with Occupy Wall Street


Wednesday, October 5 · 4:00pm - 7:00pm
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March to City Hall to join the Community/Labor March to Occupy Wall Street
(Come at 3:30pm for poster-making, or bring your own!)

*NYU students and workers: Join us for the National Student Walkout in Solidarity with Occupy Wall Street!

*Stop what you are doing/walk out of class/leave the library at 4pm on Wednesday, October 5th.

*We will meet in the middle of Washington Square Park and march together to City Hall, where we'll join the Community/Labor March in Solidarity with Occupy Wall Street, endorsed by dozens of NYC unions and community groups including the United Federation of Teachers, SEIU 32BJ and SEIU 1199, the Transit Workers Union Local 100, Make the Road New York, New Yorkers Against Budget Cuts, the Alliance for Quality Education, and more! (see: https://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=282473051782707 and http://www.crainsnewyork.com/article/20 ... /310029971 )

We will also be joining students from around the city who are organizing walkouts against unforgivable student debt and soaring tuition rates. (http://nystudentsrising.org/)

Join us to protest the arrest of 700 marchers on the Brooklyn Bridge yesterday, while the banksters who wrecked the economy remain free. Join us to protest the horrific inequality that leaves 1 in 3 New York City children in poverty while Mayor Bloomberg sits on a $20 billion fortune. Join us to protest the foreclosure crisis that has driven millions from their homes, while bank profits soar. Join us because We Are the 99 Percent! Join us because a better world is possible!

If your group would like to endorse, please be in touch!

Most importantly, spread the word by inviting ALL of your friends on Facebook, making announcements in your classes, and sharing via e-mail.

Contact: owsnyu@gmail.com


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Re: #OCCUPYWALLSTREET campaign - September 17

Postby Laodicean » Mon Oct 03, 2011 11:42 pm

AN OPEN LETTER FROM TWO WHITE MEN TO #OCCUPYWALLSTREET
by Joe Penney on Monday, October 3, 2011 at 8:03pm

We—two white men—write this letter conscious of the fact that the color of our skin means we will likely be taken more seriously. We write this knowing that because people of color are thought to be too biased to speak objectively on issues of race, our perspective in this context will be privileged. We write this aware of the history of colonization, genocide, and slavery upon which this country stands, which has created this oppressive reality.

We write this letter to the organizers and participants (ourselves included) of #OccupyWallStreet out of great love for humanity and for the collective struggles being waged to save it. We write this letter because of our support for this nascent movement, in the hopes that with some self-reflection and adjustment, it may come to truly represent “the 99%” and realize its full potential.

#OccupyWallStreet has shown itself to be a potent force. The movement—which we consider ourselves part of—has already won great victories. New occupations spring up across the continent every day and the movement for true democracy and radical social change is gathering steam worldwide.

According to the main websites associated with #OccupyWallStreet, it is a “one people, united,” “leaderless resistance movement with people of many colors, genders and political persuasions,” and an “open, participatory and horizontally organized process.” In other words, it professes to be the universal protest against the greed and corruption rampant in our society, open for anyone to join and shape.

But a quick survey of the movement so far shows that that the good intentions outlined do not reflect the reality of the situation. There is indeed an organizational structure and a core group that makes leadership decisions in #OWS (and we think this is a good thing). They are the media team at the media command center, the committee facilitators and the people who have been actually occupying the park for the past three weeks. One only needs to take a good look around to see that the leadership and the core group—which has managed to attract enormous national and international media attention—is overwhelmingly white (and largely male) and as a result the voices and perspectives of #OccupyWallStreet reflect that reality more generally.

Luckily, some people who have felt excluded or erased from “the 99%” have spoken up, alerting us to the notion that the anti-corporate occupation in Liberty Park may not be as welcoming to all as its image of consensus-bound activists, non-hierarchical structure, and free food has suggested to many (see http://bit.ly/q9q10C; http://bit.ly/oABMbQ; and http://bit.ly/oTBcfs for some examples).

One striking example of the marginalization of non-white voices within the movement was seen at the march on Friday against police brutality. Because this march was organized by activist groups in conjunction with #OWS, it was by far the most diverse rally yet. But towards the end of the march, when organizers were speaking to the group at One Police Plaza, a black woman near the speakers was clearly agitating for her voice to be heard. Despite the line of white people speaking before her, a white #OWS organizer spoke to the crowd and informed them that within a few minutes, the march would be over and everyone should leave peacefully. Of course, that meant that as soon as he was finished speaking everyone got up to leave. As the black woman (the lone black voice speaking in a march against police brutality) got up to speak, her voice was lost because by that point no one was paying attention.

In this case, the marginalization was not intentional: a PSA was made to inform people to ensure the rally’s peaceful closure. But most racial marginalization is indeed “unintentional.” In this case the silenced black woman was going to speak about her close relative, who was killed by police. She was the only person speaking with a personal relationship to police brutality at a level almost unimaginable to the people occupying Zucotti Park, and her voice was not heard.

This unintended marginalization is occurring daily at #OWS. We know this may be hard for some people to understand. Of course, who could expect us to understand what it is like to be reminded of your skin color every time you leave your home? Who could expect white people to understand that the spaces we feel so comfortable in may feel exclusive or even hostile to people of color? After all, we are never told; we are not forced to learn that our skin color is related to our social status; and we are not taught black and brown history, so many of us do not know how we got here--and cannot imagine it any other way.

But as Audre Lorde wrote, it is not the responsibility of the oppressed to educate the oppressors about our mistakes. White people may not be to blame for the privileged position we occupy, but we must be accountable for the liberties and benefits we enjoy at the expense of our black and brown brothers and sisters.

We would like to add our voices to the chorus of constructive critiques coming from communities of color. We believe the white people of #OccupyWallStreet need to understand something: the feelings of economic insecurity, political powerlessness, and lack of support that have brought so many of us to the protests at Liberty Park have been lived by many of the people of color in this country for centuries. Without an active effort to address racial issues from the core of #OccupyWallStreet, the protest will fail.

The People of Color / Unified Communities working group at #OccupyWallStreet was created on October 1, 2011. Their e-mail is unified.ows@gmail.com, their website is pococcupywallstreet.tumblr.com and they meet every Sunday at 3pm in Zucotti Park. Let’s be truly revolutionary allies and firmly support them to bring a racial analysis to the core of one of the most potent people’s movement in our country today—before it is too late.

ALL POWER TO THE PEOPLE!


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Re: #OCCUPYWALLSTREET campaign - September 17

Postby Laodicean » Tue Oct 04, 2011 12:07 am

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Re: #OCCUPYWALLSTREET campaign - September 17

Postby Project Willow » Tue Oct 04, 2011 1:43 am

JackRiddler wrote:.
I'm resigned to the Yankees winning the World Series, even though I generally prefer they don't.


Baaah, go Tigers, go Tigers, go Detroit Tigers, yeah!! Ha ha, got you tonight.

........


Elvis wrote:This could get interesting for me---I don't live in Seattle but I'll be working there on 4th Avenue off & on in the coming weeks and will try to join the protests if they recur and as I'm able. And....the business I work for has a large stock of "V" masks & costumes. Hmmm.


Hi Elvis, contact me if you want company. Now that my show is hung I plan to support the occupation daily with whatever time I have available.

..........

I've also spoken to several people who, because the MSM has chosen to ignore the protests, had no idea what is going on. I'm taking it upon myself to make a small neighborhood dent in this lack of awareness. Plans are in the works for First Thursday.

..............


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Re: #OCCUPYWALLSTREET campaign - September 17

Postby 82_28 » Tue Oct 04, 2011 1:58 am

Yeah, Elvis. Me too!
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Re: #OCCUPYWALLSTREET campaign - September 17

Postby Elvis » Tue Oct 04, 2011 4:18 am

An update today on occupyseattle.org says,

We're occupying indefinitely! Come join us! We will have general assembly at 4:00PM Oct 4th.

Posted by admin on Sun, 10/02/2011 - 23:32

We need people to come and occupy with us more than anything! Come whenever you can for as long as you can, we are there 24/7 from now on and not leaving until further notice.

We will be marching at 7:30am, 12pm, and 4:30pm October 4th starting at Westlake Park! Come on down!

General Assembly will be held from 4pm until it's over, with a march at 4:30pm.

We're happy to take any
Hand cleaner, non-parishable food, pre-made coffee, water, tents/shelter structures, sleeping pads, sleeping bags, socks, blankets, warm clothing, flashlights, markers, cardboard, flyers, folding tables, AA batteries, rope, storage bins, dustpans, ice box, ice, MORE PEOPLE!
... and probably more things. If you can think of it, we probably could use it.


Willow and 82_28 --
I'll be there again Tuesday night (tonight, technically), working late & staying overnight in the store and working all Wednesday. So I'll be there but won't have Internet or a phone of my own (I never did get one of those newfangled cellphones). But if you drop by the old Border's Books spot (next to Hallmark) I'll be in there---or across the street "agitating." You guys know my name so if you come by, just come in the side door inside Century Square and ask for me.

I'll have my sleeping bag, maybe I'll sleep in the park with the mob??
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I'm feeling like this Occupy thing has potential for traction.
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Re: #OCCUPYWALLSTREET campaign - September 17

Postby Bruce Dazzling » Tue Oct 04, 2011 8:55 am

"Arrogance is experiential and environmental in cause. Human experience can make and unmake arrogance. Ours is about to get unmade."

~ Joe Bageant R.I.P.

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Re: #OCCUPYWALLSTREET campaign - September 17

Postby JackRiddler » Tue Oct 04, 2011 8:59 am

Laodicean wrote:Image

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Re: #OCCUPYWALLSTREET campaign - September 17

Postby 2012 Countdown » Tue Oct 04, 2011 9:01 am

Someone earlier mentioned not seeing/wanting to see this clip so...





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George Carlin ~ "Its called 'The American Dream', because you have to be asleep to believe it."
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Re: #OCCUPYWALLSTREET campaign - September 17

Postby Saurian Tail » Tue Oct 04, 2011 9:13 am

^^^^^ We know. ^^^^^

Rosanne's right. We know. We understand. It ends right here.
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