Connecticut Elementary School Massacre

[barracuda]

While that was not my intention I certainly don't begrudge anyone using anything I've done as data points for their own collage, it's exactly how I treat everything I've read.

I follow. I was simply looking to verify with you that lupercal's idea of Bath being a black op wasn't carrying your implicit imprimatur simply because you had posted Kehoe's story in this thread.

There was, in retrospect, nothing improbable about the fact of Andrew Kehoe's commission of the crime. . . . and there was a great deal of evidence of several possible and exceedingly strong motivations. . . .

Which you've neglected to post.

You stated you'd looked into the Bath School disaster. If that's the case, Kehoe's motivations are known to you already. Anyone else interested in the details of the case should investigate it on their own and decide for themselves, or, for the disinclined (or simply unindustrious): Spoiler:He blamed his inability to pay for his mortgage on the tax burden required for the construction of the school and the superintendent, Huyck, who he murdered up close and personal in front of the gathered crowd of assembled rescuers at the collapsed building.

[compared2what?]

It was one thing to try to ban AR-15s when a hardcore few were buying them out of SGN. It’s quite another when Wal-Mart is selling them by the truckload.

Bingo.

Thanks for conceding that the mission had already long been accomplished many times over ON NOVEMBER 27th, 2012.

[82_28]

I'm with Volin too. It's just look where these little connect-the-dots steps have been taking us and who is feasting on it. The abjectly immoral right wing. Thus many theories and ideas are welcome. Just rigor and just intuition is what I fucking use and am not scared to spout out differences in ideas. Note that in my prior comment on this thread I brought up feelings as my number one tell for shit not going right. If you feel something different and thus colors your approach to handle your faculties at logic and rationalism and is met with a glaring DOUBLE BIND, you know you've picked one out.

Here's the thing, your heart has to be as pure as possible as in the "first do no harm" warning in order to trust your feelings. Because when you feel you also feel for others -- empathy. But when you feel you get the shit because people think that people who use feelings "first" are idiots what is being expressed is that your own sensations and notions of goodwill unto others is stupid. I say bullshit, because I can always whip out my own grasp of rationalism and logic and then temper it all with feelings. I guess a little Sheldrake like. What it comes down to is that awful fucking shit like this makes us FEEL -- and that is our clue.

[lupercal]

Thanks for conceding that the mission had already long been accomplished many times over ON NOVEMBER 27th, 2012.

Depends on the mission. If you mean selling weapons, that one never ends, and in any case the tent has gotten bigger since Nov. 27. Did you miss this?

3 days before Sandy Hook:

Israel Weapon Industries Launches Operations of its US Subsidiary, IWI US, Inc
ammoland | Published on Tuesday, December 11, 2012

Company Leases Facility in Pennsylvania. First products to be marketed will be the TAVOR SAR and UZI PRO Pistol, specially designed for the US Market.

Israel Weapon Industries

Ramat Hasharon, Israel --(Ammoland.com)- Israel Weapon Industries (IWI) – a leader in the production of combat-proven small arms for governments, armies, and law enforcement agencies around the world – launches operations of its US subsidiary, IWI US, Inc.

(snip)

“We have now decided to enter the civilian market in the US and offer products that have been specially developed for the US commercial market. Initially, we will offer several configurations of the TAVOR SAR and the UZI PRO Pistol, which have undergone changes and adjustments to suit the needs of the American consumer.”

http://www.ammoland.com/2012/12/11/isra ... i-us-inc/#

[compared2what?]

Thanks for conceding that the mission had already long been accomplished many times over ON NOVEMBER 27th, 2012.

Depends on the mission.

The one you said "Bingo" about that was directly above ^^that sentence there.

Israel Weapon Industries

You don't say. Well. It's at least as rock-solid as all your other ideas, no doubt.

[Iamwhomiam]

Lupe, not piling on here; just sharing my thoughts.

Honestly, you need to explain better your motive for posting the Our Lady's article. Because your stated rationale, that he committed such horrendous acts of murder and suicide in order to raise the public will to a point that they would be agreeable to be taxed enough to pay for the building of new schools over the next 40 years, is, well, just plain loopy.

Seems to me that the stretches you make do more harm than good to your overall credibility. Not that you shouldn't speculate. Certainly you should and please do continue questioning. But do realize too, and I must apologize for putting it this disparaging way, but posting something like that while tying it in to the modi operandi of THE one-world cabal, kinda makes you sound like a manatee out of water. Far worse, I fear.

I noticed that our toothy fish politely replied to your unwarranted snark: "Which you've neglected to post." with an explanation, something polite people do from time to time on a discussion board. But explanation should have been unnecessary, because when you offered your snark you knew the fish referenced your material, as did I.

And instead of replying appropriately to Willow, whose comments I thought profound, you again avoid answering and then attack, ridiculing her earlier comment, which I too had voiced early on.
Here's your interchange with Willow:

Willow wrote:
"A lack of information does not constitute evidence of a conspiracy. You've taken a perceived vacuum and filled it with your own fantasies."
Lupe's reply:
"A lack of a motive suggests a lack of a motive. And speaking of fantasies, who posted this gem:
"shooter killed his mother then killed another part of her in the form of the kids and others who were attached to her as a teacher."

Do you really believe yours is an appropriate answer? Or one that will help further the discussion productively?

You sure you have a Peace & Justice blog? Because your words don't reflect peace or justice. More like they do, hostility and prejudice, imho.

Frankly, I agree with Willow's last sentence but would put it a bit differently. You've taken your perceived reality and want reality to conform to it without any other basis to justify why it should be so.

So. What's puzzling me is why is it seems you never recognize your errors after they've been pointed out to you. No big deal, really. Just takes a nod of recognition and perhaps a 'thanks for bringing that to my attention.' Don't get me wrong... we all enjoy a bit of well laced snark, but it just doesn't look so pretty when it's presented as some sort of diversionary avoidance.

And you should have recognized your great error in tying in innocents by name and address to this horrific event without any substantiation at all. You lost points with me by glossing this over as if it was nothing after it was pointed out to you repeatedly.

Let the quest for truth and justice continue. Rationally. Responsibly. With rigor. Sharing your intuition is welcomed.

[Elvis]

[lupercal]

Honestly, you need to explain better your motive for posting the Our Lady's article. Because your stated rationale, that he committed such horrendous acts of murder and suicide in order to raise the public will to a point that they would be agreeable to be taxed enough to pay for the building of new schools over the next 40 years, is, well, just plain loopy.

My point is that schools have been sites of intel-organized mass murder since at least 1927. No, this is not a pleasant conclusion. Yes, it fills us with feelings of revulsion and anger, and it should. So do the mass murders, which are intended to arouse exactly the feelings of powerlessness and fear that 82_28 pointed out above. The planners of these crimes count on just these feelings to a) achieve their intel objectives and b) distract us from looking too closely at what actually occurs.

But look we must if we're ever going to get to the bottom of these events. In your quote above you say "he committed." Who is this "he"? Did you read what I posted? If you didn't understand it did you click the link I provided to read the full post? I don't think you did because there's no arsonist mentioned in what I wrote. If you're thinking of the grade-school student this crime was later pinned on, a) I didn't mention him, b) I don't consider him a plausible suspect, and c) you don't understand my meaning at all, which again is simply this:

My point is that OLA, like Sandy Hook, was an intel crime. How do I know? Not because I leapt to that conclusion from any CT predisposition, trust me. I've known about OLA since I came across an article on it years later when I was in 4th grade and it inspired just the feelings you describe. In fact I remember exactly where I was sitting when I stumbled across it. The article didn't have pictures thank heaven but the facts were chilling enough. Anyway the cause is still officially unknown, but fire researchers of the day speculated that spontaneous combustion of flammable materials in a basement trash bin started the fire which moved up an open staircase to the 2nd floor. The fifth grader was a later accusation, and while the child was interrogated by a famous FBI "forensic investigator" who got a convenient confession, a very sensible judge in Chicago threw it out as having been improperly elicited, which it was. So if that's the "he" you have in mind, it's very clear to me that this child did not start the OLA fire. We can discuss it further if you're interested.

The bottom line is that these crimes are intended to arouse powerful emotions, and they do. But you have to keep your wits about you. What first led me to suspect something amiss with the OLA fire, and to my knowledge I'm the only who's reached this particular conclusion apart from family members with whom I've discussed it, was an article I came across in 2008 about a Chicago fireman who'd written a well-regarded book about OLA arguing that the fifth-grader started it, even though that's never been officially confirmed. Surprise, this same fireman was caught starting a fire in a Chicago church, and subsequently convicted of arson.

Strange huh? So I dug around and discovered that quite a few fires are in fact started by firemen. And when I looked further into OLA I realized that it too had to have been arson, with evidence of accelerants that had been destroyed (investigators confiscated certain parts of the building before it was demolished for testing, but nothing came of it), overlooked (survivors recall smelling a certain distinctive gas odor and other tell-tale signs of accelerants), or sealed. There's a lot of very strange business in contemporary news accounts. I found all this at least as disturbing as the original story and eventually arrived at the asbestos theory based on effects of the fire which have been known to me since I first read about it, namely the school rebuilding boom I mentioned. It was massive. Fire codes were immediately tightened and just about every pre-WWII school building in the US was eventually demolished and rebuilt, typically with loads of asbestos. It was still going strong in the 1980s, long after removal of those same asbestos products had itself become a problem. Last point: in 1958 the asbestos industry was circling the grave, much like the tobacco industry, because emerging medical research finally linked it clearly and indisputably to mesotheliomia. The link had long been known but the asbestos industry had managed to dodge the bullet through the usual lawyering. But after OLA all that was forgotten and asbestos was once again the miracle mineral.

So the point is that I think you're misreading or misunderstanding a lot of what I've written because you're letting your feelings color your perceptions. That's natural, human, and perfectly normal, but as you also mention, it's not very rigorous, and we need to be. Hope that helps!
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p.s. where on earth did you get this teabagger tax theory? Seriously, that's insulting. In any case I can assure you that taxpapers do not pay for building or rebuilding parochial schools.

[geogeo]

I was going to exit the discussion, but I thought I might as well add some dittos.

I strongly disagree for several reasons:

1) This has every appearance of a black op:

No, it doesn't. Nothing you posted in your response to me is actually evidence. Evidence is the presence of information. A lack of information does not constitute evidence of a conspiracy. You've taken a perceived vacuum and filled it with your own fantasies.

I agree that it has all the markings of a black op.

No it doesn't. Yes, there are networks of people, some of whom are very powerful, who are bent on and involved in programs to instill fear in and manipulate the public in order to exercise more control. However, it serves no one, especially people who are open to the general idea, to assume that this is what is taking place in every large traumatic incident, that's actually playing another hand in the fear mongering game.

I'm with Volin.

Yes, the assumption of the speculators seems to be that the network has infinite resources and opportunities. It doesn't. There's no sense in wasting valuable assets on events where the impacts are, at best, nebulous. There are much more important geopolitical and domestic programs requiring the level of investment necessary to pull off a Sandy Hook type op, if it were one. Has anyone noticed our empire is involved in multiple military skirmishes and wars around the globe right now?

This goes back to what I had posted about it having the marks of a waived USAP buried within a waived USAP, and I think you're wrong to construe that this is what we assume for every traumatic event. We've spent years soul-searching and training our minds for traces of the casual, seductive conspiracy-mongering loose reasoning you see on GLP and ATS and those types of sites. Frankly, we're a lot less credulous and probably a lot smarter than most posters on there.

I'm reacting largely to the 'strange' connections, via the word 'Sandy', which is short for Cassandra, and the fact that it is difficult to believe that there was not more than one shooter; in some of the ones, like the Sikh temple shootings, there were several witnesses to multiple shooters. I've read reams on the surrealism and tricksterism of CIA black ops in the Philippines and elsewhere, as well as how 'jokes' have appreciated by European secret societies who have operated for political ends. This type of thing has been covered on RI many times. Just the names of the MKULTRA subprograms, not to mention MKOFTEN, tell us that nothing is outside the realm of interest and possibility for CIA/Wall Street string-pullers. But by definition we will never really know anything meaningful or be able to prove anything. And if we could, we wouldn't be posting on here anyway.

There was another comment, I believe by Volin, which seems to intimate that deep black ops folks would care about children. This would not be a team of people who would be capable of caring, they would not be our patriotic Navy Seals gone bad; these are psychos we know all about from the Cold War. It's just that some of us are and were closer to them, and have met their types and heard their narratives personally, that's what makes us maybe not 'sure' but at least leaning that way.
For anybody capable of creating much of the world we live in, the ends justify the means. I have talked to Cold War black ops people who are otherwise very nice guys who love their families. They have, however, dismembered children and peeled off people's faces. That's just the way it is. There is no line between doing it in the US and doing it overseas, if through outsourcing you can hire anyone you want.

[Iamwhomiam]

My apologies, lupercal, I erred in writing OLA when I meant the Bath Elementary School and I was referring to Kehoe. None of my comment was concerned with anything you wrote about OLA, though I could say some about that. Sorry for unintentionally misleading you and for your effort constructing your reply. Perhaps considering this, you'll try this to address some of the issues I raised about your postings? But let me now try my best to respond to that you wrote that I feel should be commented upon.

you wrote:

My point is that schools have been sites of intel-organized mass murder since at least 1927. No, this is not a pleasant conclusion. Yes, it fills us with feelings of revulsion and anger, and it should. So do the mass murders, which are intended to arouse exactly the feelings of powerlessness and fear that 82_28 pointed out above. The planners of these crimes count on just these feelings to a) achieve their intel objectives and b) distract us from looking too closely at what actually occurs.

If you have any proof of this, your first sentence quoted above, please present it; I mean aside from saying this, in response to Mr. WRex's posting back on page 7:

Interesting detail, hadn't heard it. When I looked into Bath a few years ago I was initially perplexed because it predated the OSS and CIA charters but I was never in the slightest doubt that it was a psy-op of some kind and Kehoe was a patsy. All the signs, and now this one, which you do realize can be read two ways, right?

Anyway I later learned that there were indeed several US "intelligence" operations afoot by the turn of the century, connected to the US Army, various police forces, and the oil companies, and while I never returned to the subject and can't say for sure exactly what the intended effect at Bath was, I have little doubt that some well-heeled concern used it to evade proceedings for some criminal behavior. It's a very old story.

And let me say that I find it near impossible to become angry about anything that happened decades before my birth, though I can feel revulsion for such gross and reprehensible actions.

So, regarding your "Last point":

Last point: in 1958 the asbestos industry was circling the grave, much like the tobacco industry, because emerging medical research finally linked it clearly and indisputably to mesotheliomia.

Actually, in 1958 the asbestos industry was booming to its greatest heights, far from "circling the grave," as this was during the largest building boom in history. Similarly, tobacco was on top of the world, and in the years since, their profits have grown tremendously. Again, what you've alleged is very far from the truth. Asbestos is still not banned in the US, though you must think it was. Oh, they tried, back in '89, but were unsuccessful in court defending their rationale for its ban.

Now just think about what you wrote here: "...just about every pre-WWII school building in the US was eventually demolished and rebuilt, typically with loads of asbestos."

Which is absolutely untrue. It's remarkable you could post something like this. Ever hear about the post-war baby boom? That's what drove the building of new schools; population growth. And anyone living in any city can avow, there are very many pre-war school buildings still in use.

And though my error in correctly naming the school misled you more than a bit, let me comment on this before closing:

p.s. where on earth did you get this teabagger tax theory? Seriously, that's insulting. In any case I can assure you that taxpapers do not pay for building or rebuilding parochial schools.

You're insulted? Seriously? Let's remember I was speaking only about Kehoe and his heinous acts, not OLA, but honestly, my putting forth increased taxation as a motive in the Bath elementary school bombing seems quite level-headed when compared to these horrible acts being committed to sell asbestos. (how's that supposed to tie in to Sandy Hook?)

By the way, after 1927, when did the next horror against schools or attending schoolchildren occur?

Silly me! I should have known you were referring only to parochial schools being targeted to be replaced by terrorizing children and communities, first fire-bombing their old schools and then building new asbestos filled schools... but then, how would Bath Elementary fit in to your theory?

I mean, considering you've written this: "...just about every pre-WWII school building in the US was eventually demolished and rebuilt, typically with loads of asbestos," you can't blame me for thinking you meant 'all schools'. And taxpayers dollars do indeed pay for new public schools to be built.

But now you've got me going... So, it's a plot against Catholics! Well that certainly opens new doors to explore. But Sandy Hook was a public school... and newly built too... oh well.

Anyway, how about some recognition and a kind reply to my earlier points of criticism, you know, like admitting you were reckless; acknowledging your flawed argument when its been proven false, etc.? Funny you seemed to gloss over the majority of my posting and focused on one trite and rather irrelevant point.

Lastly, I don't want to beat a dead horse here but, how on earth can you write this, "My point is that OLA, like Sandy Hook, was an intel crime. How do I know? Not because I leapt to that conclusion from any CT predisposition, trust me" and then omit sharing your "proof" for either? I'm only interested in discussing the Newtown incident, but if you have proof that OLA incident of 86 years ago was a psy-op, I'm sure we all would like to hear what you've got.

What ever happened to the practice of gathering evidence before spouting out ridiculous theories?

[lupercal]

delete, dupe

[lupercal]

IamwhoIam, please don't take this personally, but you're asking for a lot of info, so let's look at what we've got so far. Here's what I wrote for you yesterday in response to just the first paragraph of a rather lengthy ramble:

Honestly, you need to explain better your motive for posting the Our Lady's article. Because your stated rationale, that he committed such horrendous acts of murder and suicide in order to raise the public will to a point that they would be agreeable to be taxed enough to pay for the building of new schools over the next 40 years, is, well, just plain loopy.

My point is that schools have been sites of intel-organized mass murder since at least 1927. No, this is not a pleasant conclusion. Yes, it fills us with feelings of revulsion and anger, and it should. So do the mass murders, which are intended to arouse exactly the feelings of powerlessness and fear that 82_28 pointed out above. The planners of these crimes count on just these feelings to a) achieve their intel objectives and b) distract us from looking too closely at what actually occurs.

But look we must if we're ever going to get to the bottom of these events. In your quote above you say "he committed." Who is this "he"? Did you read what I posted? If you didn't understand it did you click the link I provided to read the full post? I don't think you did because there's no arsonist mentioned in what I wrote. If you're thinking of the grade-school student this crime was later pinned on, a) I didn't mention him, b) I don't consider him a plausible suspect, and c) you don't understand my meaning at all, which again is simply this:

My point is that OLA, like Sandy Hook, was an intel crime. How do I know? Not because I leapt to that conclusion from any CT predisposition, trust me. I've known about OLA since I came across an article on it years later when I was in 4th grade and it inspired just the feelings you describe. In fact I remember exactly where I was sitting when I stumbled across it. The article didn't have pictures thank heaven but the facts were chilling enough. Anyway the cause is still officially unknown, but fire researchers of the day speculated that spontaneous combustion of flammable materials in a basement trash bin started the fire which moved up an open staircase to the 2nd floor. The fifth grader was a later accusation, and while the child was interrogated by a famous FBI "forensic investigator" who got a convenient confession, a very sensible judge in Chicago threw it out as having been improperly elicited, which it was. So if that's the "he" you have in mind, it's very clear to me that this child did not start the OLA fire. We can discuss it further if you're interested.

The bottom line is that these crimes are intended to arouse powerful emotions, and they do. But you have to keep your wits about you. What first led me to suspect something amiss with the OLA fire, and to my knowledge I'm the only who's reached this particular conclusion apart from family members with whom I've discussed it, was an article I came across in 2008 about a Chicago fireman who'd written a well-regarded book about OLA arguing that the fifth-grader started it, even though that's never been officially confirmed. Surprise, this same fireman was caught starting a fire in a Chicago church, and subsequently convicted of arson.

Strange huh? So I dug around and discovered that quite a few fires are in fact started by firemen. And when I looked further into OLA I realized that it too had to have been arson, with evidence of accelerants that had been destroyed (investigators confiscated certain parts of the building before it was demolished for testing, but nothing came of it), overlooked (survivors recall smelling a certain distinctive gas odor and other tell-tale signs of accelerants), or sealed. There's a lot of very strange business in contemporary news accounts. I found all this at least as disturbing as the original story and eventually arrived at the asbestos theory based on effects of the fire which have been known to me since I first read about it, namely the school rebuilding boom I mentioned. It was massive. Fire codes were immediately tightened and just about every pre-WWII school building in the US was eventually demolished and rebuilt, typically with loads of asbestos. It was still going strong in the 1980s, long after removal of those same asbestos products had itself become a problem. Last point: in 1958 the asbestos industry was circling the grave, much like the tobacco industry, because emerging medical research finally linked it clearly and indisputably to mesotheliomia. The link had long been known but the asbestos industry had managed to dodge the bullet through the usual lawyering. But after OLA all that was forgotten and asbestos was once again the miracle mineral.

So the point is that I think you're misreading or misunderstanding a lot of what I've written because you're letting your feelings color your perceptions. That's natural, human, and perfectly normal, but as you also mention, it's not very rigorous, and we need to be. Hope that helps!
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p.s. where on earth did you get this teabagger tax theory? Seriously, that's insulting. In any case I can assure you that taxpapers do not pay for building or rebuilding parochial schools.

Now you tell me that a) you had the wrong school, and this was a complete waste of my time, and b) the rest of the paragraph you made up out of whole cloth. And you wonder why I didn't respond to the rest of your post? Do you really have to ask? I like you but this is ridiculous.

[Iamwhomiam]

Yes, Lupe, I made a mistake. I apologized. More I cannot do right now to rectify that error, the damned time machine's on the fritz again.

Very kind of you to help set the record straight, though. I'm sure all will appreciate your arduous effort, whenever you get around to it.

IamwhoIam, please don't take this personally, but you're asking for a lot of info, so let's look at what we've got so far. Here's what I wrote for you yesterday in response to just the first paragraph of a rather lengthy ramble: yadda, yadda.

"Now you tell me that a) you had the wrong school, and this was a complete waste of my time, and b) the rest of the paragraph you made up out of whole cloth. And you wonder why I didn't respond to the rest of your post? Do you really have to ask? I like you but this is ridiculous."

Lupe, I made nothing up. Everything I wrote pertained to Kehoe and Bath Elementary and all of that was restricted to only my first paragraph. The rest of my post you chose to completely ignore.

So how 'bout you reply to my earlier posting? [url]=http://rigorousintuition.ca/board2/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=35841&start=465#p488068This one[/url], the one wherein I asked you why you never admit your mistakes.

How about some recognition of your gross error rather than continuing to ignore that you've endangered the lives of innocent people, tying them into a horrendous crime they had no affiliation with at all? Or how about you address any of the points I raised in the remaining 9 paragraphs, considering you spent all that energy wasting your words on your reply to only my first.

Yes, I'm sure ever reader of this thread believes I'm the one being ridiculous.

[barracuda]

Sandy Hook Shooter Adam Lanza Wore Earplugs

January 06, 2013 | By DAVE ALTIMARI and JON LENDER, daltimar@courant.com, The Hartford Courant

Sandy Hook Elementary School shooter Adam Lanza armed himself with hundreds of bullets on Dec. 14 before he entered the Newtown school. But he also did one more thing.

He put in a pair of earplugs.

Investigators don't know whether the earplugs are significant to their probe, but they have speculated as to whether Lanza used them because it was a habit from shooting at gun ranges, or to muffle children's screams during his shooting rampage.

It is one more strange detail left behind by the strange, rail-thin 20-year-old.

"It's just weird [that he popped in earplugs] given what he was about to go do," a source said. "It's not like he had to worry about long-term protection of his hearing because he had to know he wasn't coming back out of the building."

As police wrap up at least the crime-scene portion of their investigation into Lanza's murderous spree that left 26 people dead in the school, including 20 first-graders, the earplugs are not the only evidence that shows Lanza might have carried habits either from the shooting range or the virtual world of video games into his real-world massacre.

Lanza changed magazines frequently as he fired his way through the first-grade classrooms of Lauren Rousseau and Victoria Soto, sometimes shooting as few as 15 shots from a 30-round magazine, sources said.

More than a week after the shooting, investigators were still finding bullets under doors and in carpets and walls in the school as they tried to match the casings to the magazines.

Investigators are aware that frequent reloading is common in violent video games because an experienced player knows never to enter a new building or room without a full magazine so as not to risk running out of bullets. This has led them to speculate privately that this might be a reason that he replaced magazines frequently.

Investigators have not said how many shots Lanza fired with the Bushmaster semiautomatic rifle after he entered the school by firing half a dozen rounds through the glass at the school entrance. Sources said that he fired approximately 150 rounds during the shooting spree.

Besides the earplugs, he was wearing all black clothes under a drab olive green utility vest with pockets filled with 30-round magazines for the Bushmaster.

Lanza left a shotgun, capable of firing 20 rounds, in the trunk of the car. All of the guns were registered to his mother, Nancy Lanza, and appear to have been bought legally between 2010 and 2012, sources said.

Police also found bullets outside the school in the parking lot, including some in at least three cars belonging to school personnel, including Rousseau's car. Earlier this month, state police brought the cars used by the first Newtown police officers to arrive at the school back to the scene to try to determine if perhaps Lanza was shooting at them when they arrived. No police cars were hit and no officers have reported that they believed they were fired upon.

[Project Willow]

And instead of replying appropriately to Willow, whose comments I thought profound, you again avoid answering and then attack, ridiculing her earlier comment, which I too had voiced early on.
Here's your interchange with Willow:

Willow wrote:
"A lack of information does not constitute evidence of a conspiracy. You've taken a perceived vacuum and filled it with your own fantasies."
Lupe's reply:
"A lack of a motive suggests a lack of a motive. And speaking of fantasies, who posted this gem:
"shooter killed his mother then killed another part of her in the form of the kids and others who were attached to her as a teacher."

Yeah, and quoted out of context too. That was a paraphrase from an NBC news profiling consultant, it wasn't my idea.

I'm reacting largely to the 'strange' connections, via the word 'Sandy', which is short for Cassandra, and the fact that it is difficult to believe that there was not more than one shooter; in some of the ones, like the Sikh temple shootings, there were several witnesses to multiple shooters. I've read reams on the surrealism and tricksterism of CIA black ops in the Philippines and elsewhere, as well as how 'jokes' have appreciated by European secret societies who have operated for political ends. This type of thing has been covered on RI many times. Just the names of the MKULTRA subprograms, not to mention MKOFTEN, tell us that nothing is outside the realm of interest and possibility for CIA/Wall Street string-pullers. But by definition we will never really know anything meaningful or be able to prove anything. And if we could, we wouldn't be posting on here anyway.

What are the marks of this case being a USAP outside of naming tricksterism? Why is it difficult to believe there was only one shooter?