TRUMP is seriously dangerous

[8bitagent]

On November 9th, when progressives, leftists and democrats wonder how the hell Donald Trump became president elect...they can simply look at how Team Hillary and her DNC cohorts completely rigged
the election against Sanders. Some people think that some of the pro Bernie left is somehow going to galvanize and goosestep in line with racist wallstreet warmonger Hillary Clinton and her Bill Cosby husband...maybe some will, but I suspect more than half of millennials will choose not to vote. As well as a lot of older Bernie supporters.

Bernie Sanders is who America may need, but close Clinton family friend Donald Trump is who America may deserve. So dismiss all the angry toxic rhetoric by all the liberals on your facebook or twitter feed, this election is over. And the left only has itself to blame for not disavowing Clinton sooner

You're spot on 8bit except to add that neo-liberal and neoconservative are two terms for the same ideology, the genuine 'left' leaning voter has been confused for a long time by the appearance of diversity in politics. There is none, except that Democrats tend to be better stewards admittedly, the larger frame however is identical. TPP as a case in point.

I agree, but all the rules seem to be out the window. It seems like Trump seemingly supporting Planned Parenthood, savagely attacking the neocon Iraq war Bush agenda, protecting social security, saying he will bring factories back and his general bravado will be enough to cinch up working class blue dog/reagan/working class democrats well beyond the 'rust belt'. People who say Hillary will trounce Trump in the general are delusional

[seemslikeadream]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnpO_RTSNmQ

2/29/2016

http://rudepundit.blogspot.com/#sthash.Op1q6efL.dpuf

Regarding Trump, the Media Has a Fundamental Misunderstanding of How Stupid Americans Really Are
On his show Last Week Tonight, host John Oliver finally did something that lives up to the Buzzfeed-type headlines of "destroyed" or "obliterated." Those words are usually applied to some mild criticism levied at a public figure or issue by some comedian and are almost always entirely inaccurate. However, last night, Oliver really, truly reamed Donald Trump, savagely ripping apart every myth about him like a horny rhino rampage fucking everything on the plain. It was angry and cathartic, with Oliver not just dropping the mic after he was done but tossing it over his shoulder like he was throwing out the trash. The Rude Pundit orgasmed multiple times and so will you.

It should be one of several things this weekend that, at long last, bring to an end to the abject monstrosity that is the Trump campaign for the Republican nomination for President. Seriously, what the fuck else can happen? Earlier on Sunday, Trump refused to condemn a white supremacist (who he later disavowed in the most dickish, dismissive way possible after pressure), as if one should have any answer than "Hell, yes" when asked, "Do you hate the KKK?" How could his unbelievably crass and borderline violent campaign not be over?

Except it won't. It won't even put a dent in his support, which is now approaching 50% of GOP voters. It's not like those voters didn't think Trump was a racist before. It's not like they care what anyone but Trump says about Trump's wealth or his honesty or his past beliefs. No, something else is happening.

The Rude Pundit wants to posit something here about the American people, not in the psychobabble of David Brooks on a behavioral therapy bender. Think of this as a sequel to last week's plea to voters on Trump. It's very simple, actually: A lot of the American people are stupid. And no matter how much you try to tell them that something is ethically awful, morally corrupt, or just plain bad for you, stupid people don't fucking care because they are stupid.

Sometimes, stupid works in your favor. Stupid people like to be part of crowds of other stupid people. It goes for movies, music, TV shows, and elections, among most everything in life. And if you happen to support the same candidate as the stupid people, then all blessings of success come your way. In other words, if you're popular, people want to jump on the popularity train. Back in 2008, everyone knew people who were just voting for Obama because they "liked" him, not because they understood a goddamn thing about his campaign proposals. There was no reason to question anyone's motives if they're on your side. Who cares why your candidate wins, just as long as he or she does win?

In a conversation on Friday, the Rude Pundit's Doorman pal said he was stunned at how popular Trump had become. The Rude Pundit replied, "Why do people still watch Adam Sandler movies? If he shit out Grown-Ups 3, it'd be a hit." He went on to talk about how Adam Sandler's career explains the reason why Donald Trump is going to be the Republican nominee. Sure, Sandler's had some box office duds, but that hasn't dimmed the brand of "Adam Sandler." In fact, his wretched shitpile of a film, The Ridiculous 6, is the most-watched movie ever on Netflix. It's not that Ridiculous 6 is any better than Pixels (or so this blogger hears); however, the latter film requires a price of admission while the former is, more or less, free.

So is voting. And if you're someone who always thought that "Trump" represented some essential marker of success that you could never be a part of, well, maybe by supporting and voting for Donald Trump, you can have that piece of "Trump" that you always wanted. That's something that goes beyond politics and into what we might call "transcendent." Why play the lottery? Because you think you might win. Why believe in God? Because you're betting on getting into heaven after death. Once faith enters the equation, you can no longer make a rational argument against it. You are now dealing with stupid people (and we are all stupid at different times in our lives).

The major media outlets appear to believe that they can dig something up to turn the Trump train around. That is a fundamental misunderstanding of the unbelievable stupidity of Americans. If they media learns that, if they learn that things like "reason" and "logic" don't matter one bit, then someone might be able to figure out the contortionist jujitsu required to defeat Trump.

Or don't. At the end of the day, the Rude Pundit doesn't care much. The Republican Party is ripping itself to shreds at last. Trump ain't gonna beat Hillary. Surely, we're not that stupid. Right?

Shit.

[Searcher08]

I watched this last night and thought it was very entertaining and factual - and wouldnt make a difference, because it fundamentally misread the way that Trump lands with the people who are voting for him. It shows liberal arrogance at it's most extreme to treat people as just needing "education", when bluntly, for most Trump voters, they are responding viscerally. They don't give a fuck about facts. Trump is activating different neurology than left-brain rational analysis. So when John Oliver offers a funny parade of facts, he is playing to the choir.

[Luther Blissett]

I watched this last night and thought it was very entertaining and factual - and wouldnt make a difference, because it fundamentally misread the way that Trump lands with the people who are voting for him. It shows liberal arrogance at it's most extreme to treat people as just needing "education", when bluntly, for most Trump voters, they are responding viscerally. They don't give a fuck about facts. Trump is activating different neurology than left-brain rational analysis. So when John Oliver offers a funny parade of facts, he is playing to the choir.

Agreed. It just sort of fell flat to me and doesn't even begin to compare to what's been uncovered just on this thread alone. There certainly weren't any surprises.

[seemslikeadream]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fw41BDhI_K8

[Nordic]

I watched this last night and thought it was very entertaining and factual - and wouldnt make a difference, because it fundamentally misread the way that Trump lands with the people who are voting for him. It shows liberal arrogance at it's most extreme to treat people as just needing "education", when bluntly, for most Trump voters, they are responding viscerally. They don't give a fuck about facts. Trump is activating different neurology than left-brain rational analysis. So when John Oliver offers a funny parade of facts, he is playing to the choir.

Absolutely. So much so that I couldn't get through that clip. My mind wandered, it was all so predictable, and Oliver's style is so spittle-flying and indignant. Then a friend told me to skip ahead to the 17 minute mark and that's where it gets good. And he was right. But 17 minutes till the good stuff that's actually creative and new? Sorry, most people except those who are already frothing at the mouth about Herr Drumpf aren't gonna stick with it.

It does seem to be going viral. Amongst the crowd for whom it doesn't matter.

I still REALLY wish people would get as worked up about the people who are ACTUALLY IN POWER and who are ACTUALLY DOING HORRIBLE HORRIBLE THINGS as they do about this silly blowhard who has zero political power and for whom all notions of how horrible he is are, at this point, merely hypothetical.

People are so fucked up. This country is so fucked up. Why are people like this? Do they have ANY IDEA what their elected leaders, and their allies, and their cronies are actually doing to the world, how they slaughter innocent people every day, start wars, are actively trying to start WW3, and my god it's just the worst and most murderous and dangerous empire to ever walk the earth. We may actually destroy all life on earth. It could be the end of humankind.

But no, let's go poo-flinging apeshit over this idiot. Who, as far as I know, has never actually killed anybody.

[seemslikeadream]

Court deals a setback to Donald Trump in fraud case against Trump University

Marco Rubio accused Donald Trump of starting a "fake university" at the Feb. 25 GOP debate in Houston. Here's what you need to know about Trump University. (Peter Stevenson/The Washington Post)
Donald Trump is facing three lawsuits alleging that he defrauded thousands of students through the now-defunct Trump University, and one of those cases moved a step closer to trial on Tuesday.

An appellate division of New York Supreme Court said that the fraud case against Trump could move forward, ruling that the allegations are subject to a six-year statute of limitations. Trump’s lawyers had argued that there was a three-year statute of limitations, which would have made it difficult if not impossible to prosecute most of the allegations.

Attorney General Eric T. Schneiderman, who filed the lawsuit against Trump in 2013, called the court’s order “a clear victory in our effort to hold Donald Trump and Trump University accountable.”

“As the state’s chief law enforcement officer, my job is to see that perpetrators of fraud are brought to justice. We look forward to demonstrating in a court of law that Donald Trump and his sham for-profit college defrauded more than 5,000 consumers out of millions of dollars,” Schneiderman said in a statement.

[Donald Trump billed his ‘University’ as a road to riches, but critics call it a fraud]

A spokeswoman for Trump’s campaign did not immediately respond to a request for comment Tuesday afternoon.

Alan Garten, general counsel for the Trump Organization, said he intends to appeal the ruling to a higher court. “The decision contradicts and is inconsistent with three of the appellate division’s own rulings,” he said. “We think it’s ripe for an appeal.”

Trump responds to question about 'Trump University' lawsuit

Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump responded to a reporter's question Friday Feb. 26, saying he could settle a lawsuit pertaining to a "university" with his name, but that he does not want to settle. (Reuters)
Schneiderman’s complaint seeks $40 million in restitution on behalf of students who say that Trump University — which was not a university at all, but a series of real-estate workshops held in hotel ballrooms across the country — bilked them of thousands of dollars.

A judge in the New York case ruled last year that Trump is personally liable for illegally operating a university without a proper license. But the judge also ruled that the statute of limitations prevents Schneiderman from seeking restitution for most of Trump University’s students, a decision Schneiderman appealed and won. Whether the university defrauded students and how much Trump might owe in damages are yet to be decided.

Approximately 80,000 people attended Trump University’s free introductory seminars, according to court documents. About 9,200 of them went on to pay $1,495 for three-day seminars, and nearly 800 paid up to $35,000 for packages that included mentorships and workshops.

Instead of a fast route to easy money, some Trump University students say they found generic seminars led by salesmen who pressured them to invest more cash in additional courses. The students say they didn’t learn Trump’s secrets and never received the one-on-one guidance they expected.

The court’s ruling comes on Super Tuesday, as voters in several states get a chance to weigh in on the contest for the GOP presidential nomination. Trump has been leading the polls in many states, and his competitors have tried to use the allegations against Trump University as proof that the businessman is a con man who is not to be trusted.

[Marco Rubio came out swinging at Trump and one punch really landed]

“It’s a case that is nonsense,” Trump said during a Feb. 25 GOP presidential debate on CNN. “It’s something I could have settled many times. I could settle it right now for very little money, but I don’t want to do it out of principle.”

[82_28]

Nah. Oliver's bit was great.

[Rory]

It's irrelevant and counterproductive. Net positive for Trump. Great one, Oliver. You gave him a boost - now Donald Dumpf is the second most searched for Republican candidate, after Trump, with Rubio and Cruz a very distant 3rd/4th respectively.

[IanEye]

Donald Dumpf is the second most searched for Republican candidate, after Trump, with Rubio and Cruz a very distant 3rd/4th respectively.

well, if nothing else at least MAGA_Train agrees with you.

[Iamwhomiam]

[8bitagent]

But no, let's go poo-flinging apeshit over this idiot. Who, as far as I know, has never actually killed anybody.

I agree, to a point. Whenever I saw news about militias, neo nazis, etc causing problems I would say online "well they are vocal, but they arent committing drone genocide on innocent Muslims or starting wars".
Meaning that as loathsome as these groups are, they arent doing what Bush and the neocons, and sadly even some of Obama's tenure has done. BUT, as of march 2016 Im seeing this tidal wave of hardcore far right racial nationalism online, and the GOP nominee almost gloating over the Klan and Mussolini that...some of my friends are saying maybe supporting the neocon warmongers is a lesser of two evils.
Given a possible financial collapse and world war in Syria could happen any month, I can't make heads or tails toward what's happening. It's just so surreal, and kind of scary

[Searcher08]

But no, let's go poo-flinging apeshit over this idiot. Who, as far as I know, has never actually killed anybody.

I agree, to a point. Whenever I saw news about militias, neo nazis, etc causing problems I would say online "well they are vocal, but they arent committing drone genocide on innocent Muslims or starting wars".
Meaning that as loathsome as these groups are, they arent doing what Bush and the neocons, and sadly even some of Obama's tenure has done. BUT, as of march 2016 Im seeing this tidal wave of hardcore far right racial nationalism online, and the GOP nominee almost gloating over the Klan and Mussolini that...some of my friends are saying maybe supporting the neocon warmongers is a lesser of two evils.
Given a possible financial collapse and world war in Syria could happen any month, I can't make heads or tails toward what's happening. It's just so surreal, and kind of scary

Somehow Nordic's words ended up quoted as written by me.

I agree 8bit, I find it a very weird situation, particularly the (apparent) Fall of the House of Bush.

Hilary would IMO predictably represent things getting much much worse. She is a self-confessed proud "cash for access" poliwhore. When she tried to get a Health care initiative through Clinton's administration, she was described as dictatorial, disinterested in consensus building, arrogant, a terrible manager. It wouldnt surprise me to see war with Russia inside a year if she gets in. As for Trump - would he change behaviour once in office? Probably not, which means at the least a very surreal confusing time. Running a country on the basis of a Brand USA and how you feel about it requires a fuckton of money, a consistent message and an underlying power base in the military and intel and corporate worlds a la Ronnie Raygun. One question I have not seen asked so far is about who ELSE would be on Team Trump?

[seemslikeadream]

[General Patton]

On the bright side, Trump will probably completely purge anything remotely related to conservationism from American politics for good, instead of just trying to co-opt them like the left has.