7/7 Dallas Shooting

[Blue]

I read somewhere that the school servers were down because they were pelted with bullets.

And what about the bloody scrawl on the garage wall? Any photos of that? I know it's the Post, but still.

http://nypost.com/2016/07/10/dallas-sniper-left-message-in-his-own-blood-on-garage-walls/

Dallas cop-killer Micah Johnson left behind a message — scrawled in his own blood — on a parking-garage wall during his shooting rampage, authorities and sources said Sunday.

The Army veteran wrote “RB” before being interrupted by police officers closing in on him, and it’s likely he meant to add a “G” for “Red, Black and Green,” the colors of the Pan-African flag, a main Black Power symbol, sources told The Post.

[82_28]

I understand that the surveillance could have been connected to a network, but why? I am not espousing "hoax first" but why? At least there would have had to have been a built-in failsafe system, no? If the system crashes that shit ain't monitoring shit then it isn't monitoring anything when it comes down to it. If this is true, keep this in mind would be criminals, psychos etc. There are probably a lot of public places then that security can be brought down. Makes no sense to me.

[82_28]

The server room would have been locked and if it was random the lone shooter would have had to know its exact location in order to shoot it. Also if that is true, whoever did this knew exactly how to take it down and where to do it with no question as to other servers because then it would not have been an off the cuff shooting.

[Elihu]

There are better words, much better ones and readily available too.

baffle em with bs. nobody thought of that did they? we've got the media backwards: reporting purporting

[Luther Blissett]

• Did the negotiator die? Are they still alive?
• Who shot the two protestors? The media and police imply it was Johnson, but that seems unlikely
• When did Johnson work for General Dynamics, what did he do there, who was his manager, what do coworkers from that time say about him?

All good questions, Luther. I can't answer any of them.

I am beginning to suspect that ALL of the shooting was done by that single gunman filmed on the street, and that he had finished shooting by about 9:05 pm. Did he fire at all after entering the school and running upstairs? Did he ever fire a weapon from any "elevated position" at all? Note that Dallas Police Chief Brown has already said that twelve (in figures:12) police officers fired their guns. Cacophony and confusion.

PS Brown himself does not give the impression of being a complete bastard or a shameless liar. It's important to remember at least two things: 1) Brown himself was not present at the "stand-off". 2) The FBI will be in overall charge of this cover-up "investigation".

It's perfectly possible, and indeed likely, that "Chief" Brown himself is being fed a yarn and forced to regurgitate it to the public.

The video shot from inside the building by the security guard speaking with the employee seems to indicate that there might be shooting within the building. It doesn't sound like it's coming from outside.

Our servers are tucked pretty far out of reach, and in a dead-end basement. Though El Centro sounds like a small school and could have servers in some corner storage closet somewhere.

[DrEvil]

The server room would have been locked and if it was random the lone shooter would have had to know its exact location in order to shoot it. Also if that is true, whoever did this knew exactly how to take it down and where to do it with no question as to other servers because then it would not have been an off the cuff shooting.

With a lot of goodwill you could probably argue that the hard drives containing the footage were accidentally damaged/destroyed either by bullets or the C4. Not very likely in my opinion, but not impossible. Depends on where their server is, it might not even be in the building.

If it just crashed from traffic overload then the all the files up to that point should still be there. Doesn't matter if the tail end of the files are damaged by the crash as long as the start of the file with the relevant headers are there.

[MacCruiskeen]

I really want to see a photo of that "brick corner" * on the second floor where the shooter was "secreted". Where the robot rolled in to end the stand-off.

The school will have to re-open soon, right? So anyone in the Dallas area can walk in and take a photo of that historic site and post the photo to RI.

*Maybe the DPD will turn out to have "misspoken" again. I don't see much brick here (warning: graphic). None, in fact.

[backtoiam]

How does the "top" its way down to that level in your fantasy version?

Like Dallas. Somebody powerful planned that in my opinion and it was not run of the mill BLM members. Mckesson hangs out with an elite crowd and probably the sort of people that would pull a stunt like that. Its a shame it happened at a BLM protest because the masses at large that have no clue what is really going on watch tv and will associate it with BLM even though BLM protestors were as shocked as everybody else. I have no idea if Mckesson had foreknowledge but considering who he hangs with, the Aspen crowd, it wouldn't surprise me. Regardless in the minds of a lot of people that don't know better to some degree the BLM brand will be associated with it unfortunately.

edited to add

When things like this happen its not just bad for black BLM members it also bad for white people because it ratchets up the "strategy of tension" and everybody loses. And that is goal of the tension makers.

But then why continuously vilify Black Lives Matter if there are the organizers and activists on one side and billionaire exploiters on another? You said "BLM pretends to be a little poor grass roots organic organization that simply sprang up on its own power and that is far from the truth" even though that's a perfect lie.

Did you even read my post? I just put the regular BLM members squarely and obviously in the clear. If there are people trying to exploit this situation it will be where the money is. As long as you have been hanging out here I don't understand the confusion.

[Nordic]

It seems here, though, that if anyone accepts anything the media or authorities say as a given, that we are just Facebook pleebs. Maybe there WAS no shooting in Dallas and all those murdered cops were just crisis actors. Maybe Chief Brown is a hologram. And maybe the video of the shooter gunning down a cop was a J.J. Abrams production. I think we'd have to agree that we have to accept some of the information that we are given, otherwise we would literally not have any story to even debate. So where do we draw the line? 50/50 acceptance/disbelief? 20/80?

See, you immediately seem to start mocking those who are skeptical of the official story (or STORIES since they keep changing it).

Where do we draw the line? Well except for backtoiam, who I now have on ignore again, I don't see anyone here suggesting anything preposterous. You seem to have prejudices that keep you from noticing that most folks here are doing what you propose, which is examining what EVIDENCE is actually available and trying to making sense of it.

For well over 15 years now, a good place to start with any violent event which greatly impacts the psychology of the citizens and steers the Zeitgeist, is to assume the official story is WHAT THEY WANT US TO HEAR rather than the truth.

Because that is their MO. Constantly.

Even if this was just some lone mentally disturbed angry shooter acting 100% in his own, they are going to spin it to embed their Psyops message into the narrative?

How long have you been here? It feels weird to explain this to a fellow RI'er.

Sorry for the CAPS. It's easier than going back and bolding, typing this on my phone. I don't mean to yell.

[backtoiam]

A more immediate concern he said was repairing ceilings and walls that have numerous bullet holes in them. He added that the wiring to some computer servers were damaged when the bomb used to kill Johnson was detonated.

I find that to be a little curious. The walls and ceilings need to be repaired from bullet hole damage and not a whole damn pound of C4. The computer wires need to be repaired from a bomb blast. Why didn't he say something like....

"due to the explosion there is intense damage to the floor, ceiling, and walls which will take time to repair, there is also damage from bullet holes to repair" ..........or some such thing. Why is the media not swarming that place taking pictures of the massive damage from a whole pound of C4? You know, that sort of thing. A pound of C4 would have taken that brick corner down, the walls, torn the floor up, probably some windows, etc...I bet we never see that.

This is even sloppier than San Bernadino and Pulse put together.

[MacCruiskeen]

Jul. 13, 2016 6:04pm Jason Howerton The Blaze

The mother of the man who killed five police officers in Dallas recalled the last words her son told her before he left the house to attend the protest rally that preceded his deadly rampage.

“His last words to me was ‘I love you,’” Delphine Johnson told TheBlaze in an exclusive interview.

Johnson recalled her son, Micah Xavier Johnson, acting normally before the attack on police officers in downtown Dallas. She said he went our on his “usual run for fresh fruit” earlier in the day.

On the night of July 7, Johnson told his mother he was going to a protest rally and he would be “back later.”

“I asked him, ‘Are you going to be good?’” the mother remembered saying. “He said, ‘I will.’”

Micah Johnson then told his mother he loved her and she never saw him again.

...

Delphine Johnson, the mother of Dallas shooter Micah Johnson, speaks to TheBlaze in an exclusive interview.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2016/07 ... y-rampage/

This can only mean he was an ice-cold psychopath. Or something.

[stefano]

Don't mention it. And if you're looking for more detail and numerous links to the available evidence, then you might start by reading this here very thread

I will mention it! Thanks for taking the time to reply, and thanks for limiting your superciliousness to moderate levels, by your standards - levels that most people would consider only moderately prickish. We can but imagine the near-superhuman efforts at self-control that that must have taken.

I have read the thread, but I haven't watched all the videos and followed every link on it, which is why I was looking for confirmation of what there is in the way of support for the rebuttal of the official theory. And I've now re-read the thread, but it certainly doesn't show everything you seem to think it does.

First there were "four snipers", then "at least two snipers, triangulating" from "elevated" "perches"

Says who? The very early reports were from news agencies, based on reports from eyewitnesses saying what they had seen while running through streets at night, hearing gunfire and screams. In Brown's first conference, he's asked: "Is it fair to say you're talking about four people [...]?" and he replies: "That's our assumption now." Is that what you mean by the official story? His remarks in the middle of the thing? By his second conference - Friday morning - he is relaying that the suspect had told the police that "he was not affiliated with any groups and he stated that he did this alone." The Facebook post you posted on page 6 of this thread, which says "it appears that two snipers shot ten police officers", is older than Brown's first conference. Unless there are other police statements of which I am unaware, Brown's are the two first official statements on the matter - the first states that police are assuming there were four shooters, the second that Johnson was acting alone.

meanwhile no official mention whatsoever of the single shooter filmed firing off dozens of rounds on the street and killing at least one cop at point-blank range

By police, you mean? No, no mention. Is this suspicious, that Brown didn't announce having seen that video?

no mention of the fact that the police had known by no later than 9pm that that same shooter had retreated into El Centro,/ a college corridor described repeatedly as a parking garage

Described repeatedly as a parking garage by different people - that is, Brown says in conference 1 that "we are in negotiations with a suspect involved in this shootings at the garage of El Centro," and then that statement was repeated by press outlets who were at the press conference precisely so that they could then repeat (or report) Brown's words. That's what those things are for, press conferences. That is the single mention of a garage by authorities. Correct me if I'm wrong, of course. And the above quote also shows that police did mention El Centro on their very first controlled interaction with the media. At conference 2 (Friday) Brown clarifies that this was happening at "El Centro on the second floor of the college there." It's only on Monday that he feels obliged to clarify that he "misspoke" in the first conference - the one he was giving in the middle of the night, while his men were pinning down a multiple murderer.

two completely different rifles named by "authorities"

No, nothing of the sort in this thread. The only claim that Johnson carried an AR-15 was from eyewitness Ismael Dejesus.

still no account whatsoever of where the alleged shooter was "holed up" during the "standoff" (except now we're told it was somewhere on the second floor of the college as opposed to in amongst a big bunch of parked cars)

Yes. Is that not an account? Of course it is, and it was the account as early as Friday morning: "at El Centro on the second floor of the college there in downtown Dallas."

first-ever use of a drone robot to kill a US citizen on US soil

That's the official account, though. As sinister as that is (and frankly I think that, and the C4 explosive the cops were able to get in '15 minutes', is the most sinister aspect of the whole thing), you're not claiming they're lying about this, are you?

etc., etc., etc.

Don't be coy, now!

[Karmamatterz]

I understand that the surveillance could have been connected to a network, but why? I am not espousing "hoax first" but why? At least there would have had to have been a built-in failsafe system, no? If the system crashes that shit ain't monitoring shit then it isn't monitoring anything when it comes down to it. If this is true, keep this in mind would be criminals, psychos etc. There are probably a lot of public places then that security can be brought down. Makes no sense to me.

Servers can be setup in very redundant and failsafe ways, or not.

If they were using a virtual server system, which is highly likely given their cost effectiveness, taking down part of the server could bring other parts down that share system resources in a domino effect. It depends on the configuration and all the variables. A small college like that might not need the high tech gear and failover redundancy a bank or other buildings might have. They may not have even stored the footage onto a hard disk in a live manner. There are just so many options with huge cache files written temporarily and how storage can be configured.

Also hard to say if the building was in electronic lockdown or not. If this was covered already apologies. Many buildings can easily be locked down with one virtual switch. Or completely opened just as easy to let people out. Systems can be hacked. More than likely access to the cameras from the outside was available. That would make it all the easier to hack the system and disable and or delete files.

[stickdog99]

^^If the cameras were connected to and controlled through the same server as the website then it is possible that the the traffic overload crashed the server with both the website and cameras.

That's a broadcastifyingly likely explanation!

[stickdog99]

I read somewhere that the school servers were down because they were pelted with bullets.

And what about the bloody scrawl on the garage wall? Any photos of that? I know it's the Post, but still.

http://nypost.com/2016/07/10/dallas-sniper-left-message-in-his-own-blood-on-garage-walls/

Dallas cop-killer Micah Johnson left behind a message — scrawled in his own blood — on a parking-garage wall during his shooting rampage, authorities and sources said Sunday.

The Army veteran wrote “RB” before being interrupted by police officers closing in on him, and it’s likely he meant to add a “G” for “Red, Black and Green,” the colors of the Pan-African flag, a main Black Power symbol, sources told The Post.

Garage wall or college wall?

Because if it was a college wall, he could have been trying to scrawl RBC (red blood cell) for any students of anatomy.