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Re: Sir! No Sir!

Postby IanEye » Tue Sep 03, 2013 6:27 pm

8bitagent » Tue Sep 03, 2013 5:00 pm wrote:



What kind of friends ya got there?



the kind of friends one has on facebook, the kind who thought nothing of laughing at Cindy Sheehan's grief over the loss of her son, yet for some strange reason are no longer supporters of the 1% Doctrine now that Biden is VP.

It is great to see them siding with soldiers who seem to be declaring "no boots on the ground", but these friends also turn right around and say, "just fix the problem with an air war".

They also tell me that none of the people currently protesting Obama are "lefties", which is pretty funny because i recognize that guy in the Che shirt that parel posted above.

lately i have been having fun with a guy i went to high school with. i have gone back over the RI archives and found the various links chlamor posted from the "Black Agenda Report" critical of Obama.
When this high school pal goes on and on about how awful Obama is and how brainwashed Obama's followers are, I post on his facebook page, "hey, you sound just like this Glen Ford guy over at 'Black Agenda Report' " and then link to the BAR site.
He gets very upset because he is deep in the throes of Breitbart "black people are evil" type memes.

He wants to agree with BAR, but he can't because then he would have to acknowledge that people to the left of Obama exist and that he shares some of their views.
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Re: Sir! No Sir!

Postby 8bitagent » Tue Sep 03, 2013 7:02 pm

IanEye » Tue Sep 03, 2013 5:27 pm wrote:
8bitagent » Tue Sep 03, 2013 5:00 pm wrote:



What kind of friends ya got there?



the kind of friends one has on facebook, the kind who thought nothing of laughing at Cindy Sheehan's grief over the loss of her son, yet for some strange reason are no longer supporters of the 1% Doctrine now that Biden is VP.

It is great to see them siding with soldiers who seem to be declaring "no boots on the ground", but these friends also turn right around and say, "just fix the problem with an air war".

They also tell me that none of the people currently protesting Obama are "lefties", which is pretty funny because i recognize that guy in the Che shirt that parel posted above.

lately i have been having fun with a guy i went to high school with. i have gone back over the RI archives and found the various links chlamor posted from the "Black Agenda Report" critical of Obama.
When this high school pal goes on and on about how awful Obama is and how brainwashed Obama's followers are, I post on his facebook page, "hey, you sound just like this Glen Ford guy over at 'Black Agenda Report' " and then link to the BAR site.
He gets very upset because he is deep in the throes of Breitbart "black people are evil" type memes.

He wants to agree with BAR, but he can't because then he would have to acknowledge that people to the left of Obama exist and that he shares some of their views.



Here's one to throw people for a loop: "Sorry, I refuse to support al Qaeda in Syria"
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Re: US troops surround Syria on the eve of invasion?

Postby seemslikeadream » Tue Sep 03, 2013 8:38 pm

AIPAC Speaks




September 3, 2013


AIPAC STATEMENT ON SYRIA RESOLUTION

AIPAC urges Congress to grant the President the authority he has requested to protect America’s national security interests and dissuade the Syrian regime's further use of unconventional weapons. The civilized world cannot tolerate the use of these barbaric weapons, particularly against an innocent civilian population including hundreds of children.

Simply put, barbarism on a mass scale must not be given a free pass.

This is a critical moment when America must also send a forceful message of resolve to Iran and Hezbollah -- both of whom have provided direct and extensive military support to Assad. The Syrian regime and its Iranian ally have repeatedly demonstrated that they will not respect civilized norms. That is why America must act, and why we must prevent further proliferation of unconventional weapons in this region.

America's allies and adversaries are closely watching the outcome of this momentous vote. This critical decision comes at a time when Iran is racing toward obtaining nuclear capability. Failure to approve this resolution would weaken our country's credibility to prevent the use and proliferation of unconventional weapons and thereby greatly endanger our country’s security and interests and those of our regional allies. AIPAC maintains that it is imperative to adopt the resolution to authorize the use of force, and take a firm stand that the world’s most dangerous regimes cannot obtain and use the most dangerous weapons.


Consistently ranked as the most influential foreign policy lobbying organization on Capitol Hill, AIPAC is a bipartisan American membership organization that seeks to strengthen the relationship between the United States and Israel. For more than 50 years, AIPAC has been working with Congress to build a strong, vibrant relationship between the U.S. and Israel. With more than 100,000 members across the United States, AIPAC works throughout the country to improve and strengthen that relationship by supporting U.S.-Israel military, economic, scientific and cultural cooperation.


Glenn Greenwald ‏@ggreenwald 5h

As @RepAlanGrayson points out, the convention on chemical weapons says you take violators to the ICC at the Hague -- not bomb them.



billmon ‏@billmon1 3h

AIPAC: "Civilized world cannot tolerate use of barbaric weapons against civilian population including..children. Unless they're in Gaza."
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Re: US troops surround Syria on the eve of invasion?

Postby seemslikeadream » Tue Sep 03, 2013 8:56 pm

Teju Cole’s 9 questions about Britain you were too embarrassed to ask

By Max Fisher, Published: September 3 at 9:32 am
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Last week, as the U.S. signaled it may launch limited strikes against Syria as punishment for allegedly using chemical weapons, I posted an explainer titled “9 questions about Syria you were too embarrassed to ask.”

On Sunday, novelist Teju Cole, whom I’ve had the privilege of editing, parodied it on Twitter. His composition, which we might call “9 questions about Britain you were too embarrassed to ask,” is posted below. Following it is a brief Q&A I did over e-mail with Cole, who was writing from Australia.

Cole’s parody is partially premised on conflicting reports that the United Kingdom may have allowed a British arms exporter to sell chemical components to Syria. (He also at one points writes that the U.S. sells chemical weapons abroad, which isn’t actually accurate.) In any case, it is true that Western countries sell lots of weapons to shady non-Western countries, and his larger points stand. Here it is:

Teju Cole ✔ @tejucole

US considers surgical strike on UK over sale of chemical weapons to Syria, but won't seek regime change in London.
8:08 PM - 2 Sep 2013


Teju Cole ✔ @tejucole

I won't tell Obama whether or not to drone London. But restraint must be shown: there are Titians in the National Gallery.
8:13 PM - 2 Sep 2013


Teju Cole ✔ @tejucole

Selling chemical weapons is wrong and Britain shouldn't have. But bombing the country that gave us Portishead seems wrong.
8:16 PM - 2 Sep 2013


Teju Cole ✔ @tejucole

This talk of "tailored attacks" limited to Islington just isn't credible. Next thing you know, a missile accidentally hits Dalston.
8:19 PM - 2 Sep 2013


Teju Cole ✔ @tejucole

Some say incinerating Buckingham Palace would send a message and next time Britain will think twice before selling nerve gas. I don't know.
8:37 PM - 2 Sep 2013


Teju Cole ✔ @tejucole

And a flood of refugees from Greenwich and Lewisham pouring into St Malo would be Ban Ki-moon's nightmare. The French aren't keen either.


Teju Cole ✔ @tejucole

Nine questions about Britain you were too embarrassed to ask. (Before we begin surgical strikes on Oxford, Bath, and Hull.)
8:48 PM - 2 Sep 2013



Teju Cole ✔ @tejucole

1 Q. What is Britain? A. Britain is a country in Europe. Its people are called the Britons. Elizabeth II is the Queen of the Britons.
9:00 PM - 2 Sep 2013



Teju Cole ✔ @tejucole

2 Q. Why are the Britons selling nerve gas chemicals to Syria? A. Money, innit.
9:01 PM - 2 Sep 2013


Teju Cole ✔ @tejucole

3 Q. That's horrible. How did it all go so wrong in Britain? A. It's an old country with a violent past. Old habits die hard.
9:03 PM - 2 Sep 2013


Teju Cole ✔ @tejucole

4 Q. But don't Britain and the US love each other? The US sells chemical weapons too, no? What about the Geneva Convention? A. Hush, puppy.
9:07 PM - 2 Sep 2013


Teju Cole ✔ @tejucole

5 Q. This is all feeling really bleak and hopeless. Can we take a music break? A. Sure. British music is great. http://youtu.be/zH18_dZIYOE
9:10 PM - 2 Sep 2013



WorldViews: What made you write this? What was the moment when you had the idea?

Teju Cole: I’m always thinking about alternative ways to think about the news, particularly where “the Other” is concerned. My first tweet–”US considers surgical strike on UK over sale of chemical weapons to Syria, but won’t seek regime change in London”–was just a straight reaction to the hypocrisy around weapons and punitive strikes (the question of who has a right to use which weapons was the chief pretext for the Iraq war). It seems to me that, without quite thinking it through, we’ve divided the world into two: countries we can imagine bombing and countries we can’t imagine bombing. It’s a question of imagination. The idea that the US would launch missiles into London in 2013 is beyond absurd. But the tragedy is that it’s all too easy to imagine the U.S. launching missiles into other cities in other places in the world. I wanted to bridge that gap, in the little drive-by way of troublemaking that Twitter allows.

WV: Obviously the U.S. is not going to bomb the U.K. But it may very well bomb Syria. How do you see that distinction and why call attention to it?

TC: I don’t like to make false equivalences. There’s a serious question here about the use of chemical weapons which is related to, but distinct from, their proliferation. I understand the difference between someone gassing a town and bombing it. To the dead and mourning, the difference is relative, not absolute, but there does seem to be an ontological shift in the violence there: chemical weapons are a new level of “indiscriminate.” Still, every weapon means different things is different from every other in terms of accuracy, morality, effectiveness, etc. Nuclear bombs, missiles, mines, drones, machine guns, etc, are, at heart, simply different technologies for one single awful goal: the killing of human beings, the increase of human suffering.

The argument that some are worse than others needs to be made, but we also need to say, “a pox on all their houses.” I think the Western world is too at ease with conventional weapons, ignoring the fact that the designation “conventional” is precisely that. The U.S. and its Western allies are eager to promote those weapons that underscore their own superiority. Take weaponized drones, for example, which are rapidly being sold and promoted and used throughout the world: an unmitigated horror for their victims, but for those who deploy them, it’s the dream of endlessly killing without facing any risk of being killed.

All that said, U.K.’s issuance of a license for the export of chemicals or holding arms trade fairs for whomever has the money does not not make Cameron a butcher like Assad. That’s one indelible truth. The fact that Cameron and Obama preside over needlessly vicious war machines is yet another. We can hold both thoughts in our heads at the same time.

WV: The Smiths are great and all but why them over the Beatles, the Stones, Led Zeppelin, the Clash?

TC: The Smiths are great, end of discussion. The only other possibility would have been Radiohead, but I love the way the Smiths are very intensely located in a place and time, as opposed to the more cosmopolitan brilliance of Radiohead. The Smiths just say “Britons” to me. (Of course, my slightly comic use of the word “Briton” comes from Monty Python.) I thought of Dizzee Rascal too, which would have been a nice intervention from left field. But that’s the nature of tweets: you write them, and they’re done.

WV: You were parodying an explainer of the most basic dynamics in Syria. There’ve been a lot of those this week. What do we lose, or miss, with that sort of approach?

TC: In an essay this week, Margaret Sullivan, the public editor of the New York Times, wrote about the “stubborn flaws” she has found in the Times’ otherwise admirable newsroom: “Although The Times usually corrects factual errors quickly, it is not quick to admit that matters of tone or practice could be better.” This true and beautifully worded. And it is in matters of tone that I object to things like your Syria explainer.

I actually appreciated the piece. I picked up a lot of detail from it, and I could see you battling to present as much nuance as the space would allow. It would be hard to fit in more facts into such a small space. The honesty of the effort was clear, in a way that not all such efforts are honest. But, tonally, it was still very much about “the Other,” about them over there, those strange people doing crazy things. Even the music break felt like a simplification of the people in question, as though our fatigue in learning about their terrifying reality were even relevant. And so, when I did my satirical take, it was about how to effectively estrange those whom we rarely consider “the Other”: the Britons.

And so, even if my satire in hindsight proves to have been insufficiently surgical (it seems unlikely these particular British chemicals did not get to Syria as earlier reported, though the export license for them was indeed issued, long after the war there had begun), the general point still holds: we should imagine what it would be like to bomb London punitively.

WV: Since I’m asking anyone I can find: What’s the right answer to Syria?

TC: I don’t know man. I’m almost certain I’m against any US bombing there. Yet another Middle Eastern country as target practice? Just what is it with the U.S. and bombing brown people in this past decade? The people on the ground there are real human beings.

But it is also precisely the fact that the people on the ground are real human beings that one wonders if an intervention (as happened mostly positively in Mali; and failed to happen with tragic consequences in Rwanda) is what’s needed. It’s all too complicated for me to figure out. It’s certainly painful to watch things unfold over there, hence my objection to any reading that makes it just more grist for the commentary mill.

Somehow, we must keep the humanity of the people in Syria before us. Anything thing we do or do not do, or say or do not say, should be about them, not about us. We must live perpetually in hope of a negotiated settlement. Forces are too evenly balanced, and the suffering will continue and the death toll continue to mount horrifyingly until there’s some kind of negotiated peace. No one is going to win this war. So all the work in the back channels should be about getting Russia, China, Iran, the US, and the various Syrian parties to the table. But if you have drones, you want to use them. “Surgically.”

WV: What’s the question I should have asked you here but didn’t?

TC: I think you just about covered it. I just want to thank you for being a good sport about being parodied.
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Re: US troops surround Syria on the eve of invasion?

Postby 8bitagent » Tue Sep 03, 2013 11:21 pm

Hey it's cool guys, the white house and pentagon are capped at going over a 90 day war. *whew* dodged a bullet there!

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Re: US troops surround Syria on the eve of invasion?

Postby 82_28 » Wed Sep 04, 2013 12:21 am

This has to be the most convoluted and cowardly way into war I have ever seen all on hearsay and dubious facts. Say there are no "black ops" going on due to the larger states' involved meddling, it's like a fight at a bar or something. You break it up. You don't escalate. The US appears to be looking for passive aggressive escalation for popular cover while doing what it has always done in service for those who control us. Maybe we should have Use Only Explosives Day in order to send a message that it's just fun and games after all. Sorry kids. 82_28 is a broken fucking record and I apologize. But this is a double bind. How is one fucking weapon more cruel and deadly than another weapon that is cruel and deadly?

Depends on who uses it. And how is that? This is the most asinine the USA has ever gotten. Fucking strike the fuck out of Syria if that are your intents (have fun just fucking around with weapons). We already know none of us have any say. Get it over with. Just do what you're gonna do anyway. Heaven help us.

Before the Internet it was just one of those things. You know. Those things. We read about it the next day and etc. Many Bothans are going to have to die to bring us this message that .gov is only here to destroy and keep what it has pillaged with absolutely no regard to the sanctity of humans. Oh shit, did I just bring up "abortion". Sure didn't mean to. Fuck this football season is gonna be a fucking bonanza!

The mediocre Ted Smith just penned this.

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Re: US troops surround Syria on the eve of invasion?

Postby 8bitagent » Wed Sep 04, 2013 12:37 am

82_28 » Tue Sep 03, 2013 11:21 pm wrote:This has to be the most convoluted and cowardly way into war I have ever seen all on hearsay and dubious facts. Say there are no "black ops" going on due to the larger states' involved meddling, it's like a fight at a bar or something. You break it up. You don't escalate. The US appears to be looking for passive aggressive escalation for popular cover while doing what it has always done in service for those who control us. Maybe we should have Use Only Explosives Day in order to send a message that it's just fun and games after all. Sorry kids. 82_28 is a broken fucking record and I apologize. But this is a double bind. How is one fucking weapon more cruel and deadly than another weapon that is cruel and deadly?

Depends on who uses it. And how is that? This is the most asinine the USA has ever gotten. Fucking strike the fuck out of Syria if that are your intents (have fun just fucking around with weapons). We already know none of us have any say. Get it over with. Just do what you're gonna do anyway. Heaven help us.

Before the Internet it was just one of those things. You know. Those things. We read about it the next day and etc. Many Bothans are going to have to die to bring us this message that .gov is only here to destroy and keep what it has pillaged with absolutely no regard to the sanctity of humans. Oh shit, did I just bring up "abortion". Sure didn't mean to. Fuck this football season is gonna be a fucking bonanza!

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http://www.earlyclues.com/2013/09/03/an ... ll-season/


"They" jumped the shark and flew him into the building. Even top Pentagon commanders and generals are saying this sounds like a very bad idea, and that if they are serious about going after Syria this could be a very serious war.
Noone wants this war. I know, hear and see so many conservatives/Republicans who don't want this. Not a single person I know of any political stripe is down for this. Even the neocons seem to be laughing at Obama(tho not because they are against it, but because he's doing this weird passive aggressive thing)
It's utterly bizarre to see Obama, Kerry, Biden and Rice out there on all the talk shows and tv networks pounding away about the dire need to attack Syria. We dont need congress...oh now its "no way will they not vote for authorization". Even America's bitch England found itself having to bow out. This is a WORSE coalition than what Bush had with Iraq.

100,000 Syrians dead...why go in now? Of course Assad has done a lot of killing, and of course there's good hearted and well meaning rebels. But the fictitious phantom al Qaeda we were hit over the head about in the immediate post 9/11 world became a created frankenstein reality(soldier wise) in Iraq, Libya and now Syria. Yes, of course all people on earth deserve to live in a prosperous, free country. But a lot of evil is always done using that line. Bush said were here to liberate you, and look how many Iraqis were killed/maimed/traumatized/displaced.

I do believe Obama has power, in that if he wanted these strikes to happen sooner, they would have. But what do you guys think is really happening? Why Obama and Kerry, pressing so viciously hard like Cheney, Rumsfeld and Colin Powell in 2002/2003.

But noone wants this. I've never seen numbers like this re: military action possibilities. The only people that seem to want this is Obama, Kerry, Mccain, Rice, Biden, Clinton, advisors and of course Saudi Arabia, Israel, Turkey,
the UAE, and the usual hidden players of chaos. Oh, and that smirking clown William Kristol, the "tv friendly face of neocon hawkism".
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Re: US troops surround Syria on the eve of invasion?

Postby justdrew » Wed Sep 04, 2013 1:31 am

keep in mind the number of dead is HIGHLY LIKELY to also be fabricated. Syria isn't that big. Syrian army is large. The numbers don't make a LOT of sense if you ask me. More propaganda most likely.
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Re: US troops surround Syria on the eve of invasion?

Postby conniption » Wed Sep 04, 2013 3:16 am

Yahoo

McCain plays phone game at Syria debate

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US Senator John McCain at a hearing of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee on Capitol Hill on September 3, 2013
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Senator John McCain, a longtime advocate for forceful military intervention in Syria, was caught playing poker on his smartphone Tuesday as top administration officials testified at one of the most pivotal congressional hearings of the year.

McCain is hardly the only US lawmaker ever to seek a diversion from what can be hours of legislative debate on Capitol Hill.

But the photographic evidence of McCain making poker bets on his iPhone during the hearing itself offered a startling counterweight to the seriousness in Washington as senators debated whether to sign on to President Barack Obama's plan to bomb Syria for chemical weapons use.

"Scandal!" McCain tweeted sarcastically after an alert Washington Post photographer posted the photo that rapidly made the rounds on Twitter.

"Caught playing iPhone game at 3+ hour Senate hearing - worst of all I lost!" he quipped.

McCain, the Republican presidential nominee who was dealt a tough hand and lost the White House race to Obama in 2008, addressed his gaffe afterward.

"As much as I like to always listen in rapt attention constantly (to) remarks of my colleagues over a three-and-a-half-hour period, occasionally I get a little bored and so I resorted" to poker, a flushed but chuckling McCain told CNN.

"But the worst thing about it is I lost thousands of dollars in this game," he said, clarifying that it was "fake" money.
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Postby Ben D » Wed Sep 04, 2013 4:11 am

Russia Defense Ministry Warns About ‘Playing With Arms’ After Israel Launch

MOSCOW, September 3 (RIA Novosti) – Hours after Israel admitted to firing “ballistic targets” that resembled missiles in the Mediterranean, a launch that the country did not priorly announce, Russia’s Defense Ministry spoke out against “playing with arms and missiles” in such a “volatile” region.

“Is there any other region more volatile and packed with weapons today?” Deputy Defense Minister Anatoly Antonov told journalists. “I don’t completely understand how someone could play with arms and missiles in that region today.”

Antonov called on those who launched the so-called missile-like targets to be more responsible for regional security and “not play with fire.”

“The Mediterranean is a powder keg,” he said. “A match is enough for fire to break out and possibly spread not only to neighboring states but to other world regions as well. I remind you that the Mediterranean is close to the borders of the Russian Federation.”

He recalled that a meteorological rocket launch by Norway in 1995 was mistaken as a possible rocket attack on Russia.

The two “ballistic targets,” detected by the Russian military on Tuesday, had been launched by the Israeli military as part of a joint US-Israeli test of the Middle Eastern nation’s missile-defense system, an official in Tel Aviv said.

Russia put its General Staff’s central command center on high alert after the launches, Antonov said.

The launch was detected at 10:16 a.m. Moscow time (6:16 a.m. GMT) by radar in the southern Russian city of Armavir, a Defense Ministry spokesman said. The objects’ trajectories ran from the central to the eastern Mediterranean, the spokesman said. A diplomatic source in the Syrian capital, Damascus, told RIA that the targets had fallen into the sea.
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Re: US troops surround Syria on the eve of invasion?

Postby 8bitagent » Wed Sep 04, 2013 6:55 am

It's all fun and games for most these folks. Just listen to the casual rapport in the Collateral Murder video.

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Re: US troops surround Syria on the eve of invasion?

Postby seemslikeadream » Wed Sep 04, 2013 8:48 am

How Intelligence Was Twisted to Support an Attack on Syria
Tuesday, 03 September 2013 09:05
By Gareth Porter, Truthout | News


In a White House handout photo, President Barack Obama meets with his national security staff to discuss the situation in Syria, in the Situation Room of the White House, in Washington, Aug. 31, 2013. (Photo: Pete Souza / The White House via The New York Times)
Secretary of State John Kerry assured the public that the Obama administration's summary of the intelligence on which it is basing the case for military action to punish the Assad regime for an alleged use of chemical weapons was put together with an acute awareness of the fiasco of the 2002 Iraq WMD intelligence estimate.
Nevertheless, the unclassified summary of the intelligence assessment made public August 30, 2013, utilizes misleading language evocative of the infamous Iraq estimate's deceptive phrasing. The summary cites signals, geospatial and human source intelligence that purportedly show that the Syrian government prepared, carried out and "confirmed" a chemical weapons attack on August 21. And it claims visual evidence "consistent with" a nerve gas attack.
But a careful examination of those claims reveals a series of convolutedly worded characterizations of the intelligence that don't really mean what they appear to say at first glance.
The document displays multiple indications that the integrity of the assessment process was seriously compromised by using language that distorted the intelligence in ways that would justify an attack on Syria.
Spinning the Secret Intelligence
That pattern was particularly clear in the case of the intelligence gathered by covert means. The summary claims, "We intercepted communications involving a senior official intimately familiar with the offensive who confirmed that chemical weapons were used by the regime on August 21 and was concerned with the U.N. inspectors obtaining evidence."
That seems to indicate that U.S. intelligence intercepted such communiations. But former British Ambassador Craig Murray has pointed out on his blog August 31 that the Mount Troodos listening post in Cyprus is used by British and U.S. intelligence to monitor “all radio, satellite and microwave traffic across the Middle East … ” and that “almost all landline telephone communications in this region is routed through microwave links at some stage [and] picked up on Troodos.”
All intelligence picked by the Troodos listening post is shared between the U.S. and British intelligence, Murray wrote, but no commmunictions such as the ones described in the U.S. intelligence summary were shared with the British Joint Intelligence Organisation. Murray said a personal contact in U.S. intelligence had told him the reason was that the purported intercept came from the Israelis. The Israeli origin of the intelligence was reported in the U.S. press as well, because an Israeli source apparently leaked it to a German magazine.
The clumsy attempt to pass off intelligence claimed dubiously by the Israelis as a U.S. intercept raises a major question about the integrity of the entire document. The Israelis have an interest in promoting a U.S. attack on Syria, and the authenticity of the alleged intercept cannot be assumed. Murray believes that it is fraudulent.
But even if the intercept is authentic, the description of it in the intelligence summary appears to be misleading. Another description of the same intercept leaked to The Cable by an administration official suggests that the summary’s description is extremely tendentious. The story described those same communications as an exchange of "panicked phone calls" between a Syrian Defense Ministry official and someone in a chemical weapons unit in which the defense ministry official was "demanding answers for [about?] a nerve agent strike." That description clearly suggests that the Syrian senior official's questions were prompted by the charges being made on August 21 by opposition sources in Ghouta. The use of the word "panicked", which slants the interpretation made by readers of the document, may have been added later by an official eager to make the story more compatible with the administration’s policy.
But the main problem with the description is that it doesn't answer the most obvious and important question about the conversation: Did the purported chemical weapons officer at the other end of the line say that the regime had used chemical weapons or not? If the officer said that such weapons had been used, that would obviously have been the primary point of the report of the intercept. But the summary assessment does not say that, so the reader can reasonably infer that the officer did not make any such admission. The significance of the intercept is, therefore, that an admission of chemicals weapons use was not made.
The carefully chosen wording of the summary - the ministry official was "concerned with the U.N. inspectors obtaining evidence" - suggests that the official wanted to make sure that UN inspectors would not find evidence of a nerve gas attack. But it could also mean precisely the opposite - that the official wanted the inspectors to be able ascertain that there was no use of chemical weapons by Syrian forces in eastern Ghouta. The latter possibility is bolstered by the fact that the regime agreed within 24 hours of the first formal request on August 24 from UN envoy Angela Kane for unimpeded access to eastern Ghouta. As late as Friday, August 23, the UN Department of Safety and Security had not yet decided to give permission to the UN investigators to go into the area because of uncertainties about their safety.
The intelligence summary makes no effort to explain why the regime promptly granted access to the investigators. Another anomaly: the fact that the UN investigators were already present in Damascus, having been initially requested by the Assad regime to look into a gas attack the regime had charged was carried out by the rebels on March 19. The two-page assessment by the British Joint Intelligence Organisation released August 29, pointed to this question:"There is no obvious political or military trigger," it said, "for regime use of Chemical War on an apparently larger scale now, particularly given the current presence of the UN investigating team."
Another obvious case of a misleading description of intelligence in the summary involves information from US geospatial and signals intelligence purporting to show that the Assad regime was preparing for a chemical attack in the three days prior to August 21. The intelligence summary describes the intelligence as follows: "Syrian chemical weapons personnel were operating in the Damascus suburb of Adra from Sunday, August 18 until early in the morning on Wednesday, August 21 near an area that the regime uses to mix chemical weapons, including sarin."
That seems like damning evidence at first glance. However, despite the use of the term "operating," the US intelligence had no information about the actual activities of the individual or individuals being tracked through geospatial and signals intelligence. When administration officials leaked the information to CBS news last week, they conceded that the presence of the individual being tracked in the area in question had been viewed at the time as "nothing out of the ordinary."
Yet, after the August 21 event, the same information was suddenly transformed into "evidence" that supports the official line. The summary refers to "streams of human signals and geospatial intelligence that revealed regime activities that we assessed were associated with preparations for a chemical attack." Thus the same information that provided no indication of "preparations" was now presented as though it included knowledge of some "activities" somehow related to getting ready for chemical warfare.
A third piece of intelligence cited in the summary - unsourced but presumably from an intelligence agent – might seem to denote the intent to carry out a chemical weapons attack. However, the wording is slippery. "On August 21," the document says, "a Syrian regime element prepared for a chemical weapons attack in the Damascus area, including through the utilization of gas masks." That intelligence, if accurate, doesn’t establish an intent by the government to carry out an attack; it could conversely suggest the government’s anticipation of a chemical attack by the rebels. The intelligence's language is ambiguous; it contains no certainty that the chemical weapons attack for which the regime was preparing was one it intended to initiate itself.
Behind the Uncertainty on "Nerve Gas"
The intelligence summary includes a notable indication that the intelligence community was far from convinced that nerve gas had been used August 21.
The summary said the intelligence community had "high confidence" that the government had carried out a "chemical weapons attack," and added, "We further assess that the regime used a nerve agent in the attack." The fact that a separate sentence was used to characterize the assessment of the nerve agent issue and that it did not indicate any level of confidence is a signal that the intelligence community does not have much confidence in the assessment that nerve gas was used, according to a former senior US intelligence official who insisted on anonymity. The former official told Truthout that the choice of wording actually means the intelligence analysts "do not know" if nerve gas was used.
The summary includes yet another sign of the analysts' lack of confidence that nerve gas was used, which was equally well-disguised. "We have identified one hundred videos attributed to the attack," it said, "many of which show large numbers of bodies exhibiting physical signs consistent with, but not unique to, nerve agent exposure." Unless it is read carefully, the use of the word "bodies" - meaning corpses - instead of "victims" might be missed. But why would the intelligence community be focused on how many "bodies" – meaning corpses – exhibit particular "physical signs" when the far more relevant indicator of nerve gas would the number of "victims" exhibiting certain symptoms?
That strange choice averts acknowledgement of a fundamental problem for the intelligence community: Most of the alleged victims being shown in the videos posted online do not show symptoms associated with exposure to nerve agent. Corpses without any sign of wounds, on the other hand, would be "consistent" with a nerve agent attack.
The symptoms of a nerve agent attack are clear-cut: Soon after initial symptoms of tightness of chest, pinpoint pupils and running nose, the victim begins to vomit and to defecate and urinate uncontrollably, followed by twitching and jerking. Ultimately, the victim becomes comatose and suffocates in a series of convulsive spasms. The symptoms shown in dozens of videos of victims being treated in medical centers in Ghouta, however, are quite different. In an interview with Truthout, Dan Kaszeta, a specialist on chemical, biological and radiological weapons who has advised the White House on those issues, pointed out that a nerve gas attack would have been accompanied by a pattern of symptoms that are not shown in the videos posted online. "There should be more or less universal vomiting," Kaszeta said. But he did not see any vomiting or evidence of such vomiting on the clothing or on the floor in any of the videos he saw. Stephen G. Johnson, a chemical weapons forensics expert at Cranfield University in the United Kingdom, noticed the same thing. "Why aren't more people vomiting?" he asked Truthout in an interview.
A number of specialists, including Kaszeta and Johnson, also noticed that personnel were shown handling the victims without any special protective clothing but not exhibiting any symptoms themselves. Paula Vanninen, director of the Finnish Institute for Verification of Chemical Weapons, and Gwynn Winfield, the editor of CBRNe World, a magazine specializing in chemical weapons, made the same point in interviews with AFP on August 21. The only evidence of such effects is secondhand at best: Statements issued the following day by both the spokesman for the Supreme Military Council of the Free Syrian Army, Khaled Saleh, and the spokesman for its Washington, DC, arm, the Syrian Support Group, said that doctors and "first responders" had reported that they were suffering symptoms of neurotoxic poisoning. Saleh claimed that at least six doctors had died.
Experts noticed yet another anomaly: The number of those treated who survived far outnumbered the dead, contrary to what would be expected in a nerve gas attack. Dr. Ghazwan Bwidany told CBS news August 24 that his mobile medical unit had treated 900 people after the attack and that 70 had died. Medecins Sans Frontieres reported that 3,600 patients had been treated at hospitals in the area of the attack and that 355 had died. Such ratios of survivors to dead were the opposite of what chemical weapons specialists would have expected from a nerve gas attack. Kaszeta told Truthout that the "most nagging doubt" he had about the assumption that a nerve gas attack had taken place is the roughly 10-to-1 ratio of total number treated to the dead. "The proportions are all wrong," he said. "There should be more dead people." Johnson agreed. In an actual nerve gas attack, he said, "You'd get some survivors, but it would be very low. This [is] a very low level of lethality."
These multiple anomalies prompted some specialists to come up with the theory that the government had somehow diluted the nerve gas to make it less detectable and thus made it less lethal. Hamish de Bretton-Gordon, a former commander of the chemical biological and nuclear terrorism unit in the UK Ministry of Defense, told USA Today August 23 that the absence of symptoms associated with nerve gas attack might be explainable by a "low dose" chemical weapons attack.
Three days later, Winfield wrote in an article for CNN that the symptoms seen in the videos indicated "lower toxicity" than was associated with nerve agents. Winfield suggested that nerve agent might have been mixed with other substances that were likely to remain in the environment longer than a nerve agent such as sarin.
But Kaszeta cast doubt on the idea of a "low dose" nerve agent being used. In an interview with blogger Eliot Higgins, who specializes in weapons associated with the Syrian conflict under the name Brown Moses, he said, "There's not much leeway between the incapacitating doses and lethal doses with Sarin." The concentration causing any symptoms at all, he said, "would quickly lead to absorption of a lethal dose."
Case Not Closed
If it wasn't a nerve gas attack, then, what other chemical weapon could have produced the symptoms exhibited in the videos? In an analysis on the Strongpoint Security website, Kaszeta considered each known type of chemical weapon in turn and concluded that the symptoms exhibited in the videos were not consistent with those associated with any of them. And as Kaszeta told the Israeli daily Ha'aretz, the fact that none of the people treating casualties were suffering obvious symptoms "would seem to rule out most types of military-grade chemical weapons. … "
Instead of addressing the issue, the intelligence community opted to accept information about the numbers and the cause of death provided by sources that were presumably subject to the influence of opposition forces in the area. The intelligence summary cites a "preliminary U.S. government assessment" that 1,429 people were killed by chemical weapons, including "at least 426 children." It provides no indication of how the analysts arrived at such a precise estimate, which is highly unusual for an intelligence assessment. The normal practice in arriving at such an estimate is to give a range of figures reflecting different data sources as well as assumptions.
The intelligence community's main center for analyzing all issues relating to weapons of mass destruction is the CIA's Office of Weapons Intelligence, Nonproliferation and Arms Control (WINPAC) Center. It is the same center that tilted the 2002 Iraq estimate toward conclusions that were not supported by technical facts. As the Robb-Silverman report on the Iraq WMD intelligence fiasco pointed out, intelligence analysts at WINPAC explained to the staff privately that they had reversed the normal intelligence analysis burden of proof and operated on the assumption that Iraq did have WMD programs.
That dynamic seems to have re-emerged in the case of Syrian chemical weapons, especially with the appearance of hundreds of videos containing highly emotive scenes of children suffering and, in many cases, already having died. The contradiction between the emotionally charged visual evidence and the technical analysis by chemical weapons specialists, however, poses an unresolved issue. The uncertainty about what actually happened on August 21 can be resolved only on the basis of actual blood samples from victims who have been gathered by the UN inspectors and are now being analyzed in European laboratories.
Both Médecins Sans Frontières and Human Rights Watch issued statements citing statistics and descriptions of symptoms provided by local medical personnel and, in the case of Human Rights Watch, local activists and other contacts. However Human Rights Watch acting Middle East Director Joe Stork stated, "The only way to find out what really happened in Ghouta is let the UN inspectors in."
Médecins Sans Frontières made it clear in its original August 24 statement that it could not confirm the figure of 3,600 patients with "neurotoxic symptoms," because its own staff did not have access to the medical facilities in question. And in an August 28 statement, the organization said scientific confirmation of the toxic agent was required, and that the data it had been given could not be a "substitute for the [UN] investigation."
But the advocates of an attack on Syria within the Obama administration have not demonstrated a willingness to rely on the definitive evidence from the UN investigators. Instead, they have evinced a strong hostility toward the UN investigation ever since the Syrian government agreed to allow it unimpeded access to the locations where chemical attacks were alleged. National Security Adviser Susan Rice sent an e-mail to key officials August 25 asserting that the UN investigation was pointless.
Since then, administration officials have dismissed the UN investigation as representing a Syrian political tactic. Kerry claimed in his statement Friday that when the UN inspections were "finally given access, that access - as we now know – was restricted and controlled."
But Farhan Haq, the associate spokesperson for Secretary General Ban Ki-Moon, who has been getting regular reports from the UN team on its work in Syria, told Truthout that he was unaware of any restrictions on the team's work.
The Obama administration has made it clear it does not intend to rely on the UN investigation's findings. Kerry declared on Sunday that samples of blood and hair from medical personnel in eastern Ghouta had been found to contain traces of sarin nerve gas.
However, those samples did not go through the UN investigators, but were smuggled out of Syria by opposition activists. The spokesman for the Free Syrian Army's Supreme National Council, Khaled Saleh, had announced August 22 that "activists" had collected their own hair, blood and soil samples and were smuggling them out of the country.
The Obama administration had obtained physiological samples related to previous alleged nerve gas attacks, which had tested positive for sarin, but administration officials had insisted that, without being certain of the chain of custody, "they couldn't be sure who had handled those samples," as one official put it.
Despite the knowledge that samples lacking a clear chain of custody could have been tampered with, however, the administration began to disregard that key factor in June. It adopted a policy of accepting such samples as evidence of government guilt, on the argument, as one official explained, "It's impossible that the opposition is faking the stuff in so many instances in so many locations."
That policy shift is part of the undeclared framework in which the intelligence assessment was carried out.
Regardless of what evidence emerges in coming weeks, we would do well to note the inconsistencies and misleading language contained in the assessment, bearing in mind the consequences of utilizing ambiguous intelligence to justify an act of war.
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Syria: “Opposition Rebels execute Two Small Boys. Are these the People Obama is Supporting?

http://www.globalresearch.ca/syria-oppo ... ng/5347913


I feel physically sick. I have a son of similar age to these two boys.
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Postby seemslikeadream » Wed Sep 04, 2013 9:10 am

Kerry Won’t Rule Out Ground Troops in Syria
Insists US Won't Remove Any Option From the Table
by Jason Ditz, September 03, 2013

Though the administration has repeatedly made a point of saying that ground troops aren’t being envisioned as part of the US attack on Syria, when actually pressed on the matter Secretary of State John Kerry opened the door to them.

“I don’t want to take off the table an option that might or might not be available to the president of the United States to secure our country,” Kerry insisted, saying that he could envision a ground invasion to secure Syria’s chemical weapons.

President Obama has also pushed the idea of a “broader strategy” for military offensives in the region above and beyond the initial missile strikes when talking to Congress, underscoring that the administration, while trying to make this sound like a one-and-done strike, is already cooking up plans for a much bigger war.

It’s a have your cake and eat it too effort for the administration, as they try to placate moderates with empty promises of a brief, meaningless war that they don’t need to think too much about, while reassuring their hawkish backers that once the war starts there is already plan in place, however vague, to go calamitously farther.


The U.S. Will Regret Intervention in Syria
by Ivan Eland, September 04, 2013

When pundits debate military options for any of the many U.S. foreign interventions, most of them buy into, whether knowingly or not, some version of the "America-as-World-Policeman" approach to foreign policy. They usually either skate over the question of why the particular target nation is strategic to U.S. vital interests or simply say that issue is irrelevant, because whatever tragedy has occurred is a humanitarian crisis of epic proportion.

This predictable debate is now happening over U.S. intervention in Syria. To deal with the latter canard first, the 1,400 people killed in the most recent alleged chemical weapons attack and the more than 100,000 souls killed in the Syrian civil war are truly tragic but are dwarfed by other much more lethal recent conflicts in which the U.S. did nothing. The United States did not intervene militarily in Congo, where 5 million people and counting have been killed, in Sudan, where the civil war and famine killed 2 million people, and in Rwanda, where the Tutsi tribe killed 800,000 members of the Hutu tribe. Even if the United States could have intervened and done something effective to make these places better – unlikely if the recent U.S. debacles in Afghanistan, Iraq, and Libya are any indication – the "responsibility to protect" doctrine advocated by U.N. ambassador Samantha Power and others is against international law for a reason. In the world’s system of nation-states, in which only self defense is recognized as a legitimate excuse to use force, the "responsibility to protect" is illegal because of the tremendous potential to cause many more deaths by its huge potential for abuse. For example, the United States has used the "humanitarian" excuse for intervention many times, but the absence of intervention in the above most heinous cases and the existence of other underlying agendas in cases of U.S. intervention show the potential for cynical exploitation; other great powers have done the same.

Even if one buys into the dubious doctrine, why does it always have to be the United States that assumes the responsibility? It’s advocates say, using goading flattery, because the United States is the "indispensible nation" (the implication is that the United States is the only country with a military that is powerful enough to make such interventions successful). However, other nations have forces that can be used for such interventions and peacekeeping–although the world would be better off and probably have many less deaths overall if all nations followed international law and stayed out of other nations’ business as much as possible, even in cases where people are doing stupid things to themselves in brutal civil wars.

As for chemical weapons, hypocrisy reins here too. First of all, chemical weapons have killed far fewer people over human history than conventional bullets and bombs – in the Syrian civil war, it’s about 1 percent of the more than 100,000 people killed thus far in the conflict. Chemical weapons hardly have been a "weapon of mass destruction" compared to conventional munitions. Also, in 1988, when Saddam Hussein, then receiving U.S. support in his war with the Iranians, used chemical weapons against his own people, the United States not only didn’t attack him, but looked the other way and lent him another billion dollars six months later.

By saying that any significant use of chemical weapons in the Syrian civil war was a red line implying U.S. intervention, Barack Obama fell into a trap of his own rhetoric, as John F. Kennedy acknowledged he did during the Cuban Missile Crisis. Kennedy admitted that if he hadn’t made a speech saying that any Soviet nuclear missiles installed in Cuba would be a grave threat to U.S. security, he would never have had to do anything about the Soviet deployment that didn’t really change the strategic nuclear balance between the superpowers. Likewise, Obama has painted himself into a rhetorical corner in this case.

More important, although what happens in Syria may have strategic relevance to the nearby regional powers of Turkey, Israel, and Saudi Arabia, it has little real strategic importance to the United States, which is half way across the world. Yet the principal neighboring countries affected, Turkey and Israel, have done little to help stabilize Syria and want U.S. intervention to do their dirty work for them. In fact, Turkey and Saudi Arabia are aiding the Syrian rebels, which are now dominated by Islamist radicals that could very well be worse than the Assad government in Syria.

One argument for U.S. intervention in Syria is as a message to Iran to take seriously U.S. threats toward its nuclear program–on which Obama has also painted himself into a corner by saying he will not allow Iran to get nuclear weapons. Yet military options to prevent Iran from getting nuclear weapons or a nuclear capability have never been very credible – bombing likely will not get all of Iran’s nuclear facilities and will likely only spur Iran to accelerate the program to deter further attacks. In fact, limited U.S. intervention in Syria may not only fail to intimidate Iran, but act as a similar nuclear accelerant.

U.S. intervention in Syria is a slippery slope. If initial military measures don’t work, pressure will build for stronger action using the argument that American credibility is even more on the line. With a $17 trillion national debt and war fatigue from Afghanistan, Iraq, and Libya, the American public, as shown by opinion polls, has no stomach for the deep involvement in Syria that the pundits crave
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Empire’s Disinformation and Bombing
Anti-Empire Report No. 120
by William Blum / September 3rd, 2013

Found at last! After searching for 10 years, the Iraqi weapons of mass destruction have finally been found – in Syria!

Secretary of State John Kerry: “There is no doubt that Saddam al-Assad has crossed the red line. … Sorry, did I just say ‘Saddam’?”

A US drone has just taken a photo of Mullah Omar riding on a motorcycle through the streets of Damascus.1

So what do we have as the United States refuses to rule out an attack on Syria and keeps five warships loaded with missiles in the eastern Mediterranean?

Only 9 percent of Americans support a US military intervention in Syria.2
Only 11% of the British supported a UK military intervention; this increased to 25% after the announcement of the alleged chemical attack.3
British Prime Minister David Cameron lost a parliamentary vote August 29 endorsing military action against Syria 285-272.
64% of the French people oppose an intervention by the French Army.4 “Before acting we need proof,” said a French government spokesperson.5
Former and current high-ranking US military officers question the use of military force as a punitive measure and suggest that the White House lacks a coherent strategy. “If the administration is ambivalent about the wisdom of defeating or crippling the Syrian leader, possibly setting the stage for Damascus to fall to Islamic fundamentalist rebels, they say, the military objective of strikes on Assad’s military targets is at best ambiguous.”6
President Obama has no United Nations approval for intervention. (In February a massive bombing attack in Damascus left 100 dead and 250 wounded; in all likelihood the work of Islamic terrorists. The United States blocked a Russian resolution condemning the attack from moving through the UN Security Council)
None of NATO’s 28 members has proposed an alliance with the United States in an attack against Syria. NATO’s Secretary General Anders Fogh Rasmussen said that he saw “no NATO role in an international reaction to the [Syrian] regime.”7
The Arab League has not publicly endorsed support of US military action in Syria; nor have key regional players Saudi Arabia and Qatar, concerned about a possible public backlash from open support for US intervention.8
We don’t even know for sure that there was a real chemical attack. Where does that accusation come from? The United States? The al-Qaeda rebels? Or if there was such an attack, where is the evidence that the Syrian government was the perpetrator? The Assad regime has accused the rebels of the act, releasing a video showing a cave with alleged chemical-weapon equipment as well as claiming to have captured rebels possessing sarin gas. Whoever dispensed the poison gas – why, in this age of ubiquitous cameras, are there no photos of anyone wearing a gas mask? The UN inspection team was originally dispatched to Syria to investigate allegations of earlier chemical weapons use: two allegations made by the rebels and one by the government.
The United States insists that Syria refused to allow the UN investigators access to the site of the attack. However, the UN request was made Saturday, August 24; the Syrian government agreed the next day.9
In rejecting allegations that Syria deployed poison gas, Russian officials have argued that the rebels had a clear motivation: to spur a Western-led attack on Syrian forces; while Assad had every reason to avoid any action that could spur international intervention at a time when his forces were winning the war and the rebels are increasingly losing world support because of their uncivilized and ultra-cruel behavior.
President George W. Bush misled the world on Iraq’s WMD, but Bush’s bogus case for war at least had details that could be checked, unlike what the Obama administration released August 29 on Syria’s alleged chemical attacks – no direct quotes, no photographic evidence, no named sources, nothing but “trust us,” points out Robert Parry, intrepid Washington journalist.
So, in light of all of the above, the path for Mr. Obama to take – as a rational, humane being – is, of course, clear. Is it not? N’est-ce pas? Nicht wahr? – Bombs Away!

Pretty discouraging it is. No, I actually find much to be rather encouraging. So many people seem to have really learned something from the Iraqi pile of lies and horror and from decades of other American interventions. Skepticism – good ol’ healthy skepticism – amongst the American, British and French people. It was stirring to watch the British Parliament in a debate of the kind rarely, if ever, seen in the 21st-century US Congress. And American military officers asking some of the right questions. The Arab League not supporting a US attack, surprising for an organization not enamored of the secular Syrian government. And NATO – even NATO! – refusing so far to blindly fall in line with the White House. When did that last happen? I thought it was against international law.

Secretary of State John Kerry said that if the United States did not respond to the use of chemical weapons the country would become an international “laughingstock”. Yes, that’s really what America and its people have to worry about – not that their country is viewed as a lawless, mass-murdering repeat offender. Other American officials have expressed concern that a lack of a US response might incite threats from Iran and North Korea.10

Now that is indeed something to laugh at. It’s comforting to think that the world might be finally losing the stars in their eyes about US foreign policy partly because of countless ridiculous remarks such as these.

United States bombings, which can be just as indiscriminate and cruel as poison gas. (A terrorist is someone who has a bomb but doesn’t have an air force.)

The glorious bombing list of our glorious country, which our glorious schools don’t teach, our glorious media don’t remember, and our glorious leaders glorify.

Korea and China 1950-53 (Korean War)
Guatemala 1954
Indonesia 1958
Cuba 1959-1961
Guatemala 1960
Congo 1964
Laos 1964-73
Vietnam 1961-73
Cambodia 1969-70
Guatemala 1967-69
Grenada 1983
Lebanon 1983, 1984 (both Lebanese and Syrian targets)
Libya 1986
El Salvador 1980s
Nicaragua 1980s
Iran 1987
Panama 1989
Iraq 1991 (Persian Gulf War)
Kuwait 1991
Somalia 1993
Bosnia 1994, 1995
Sudan 1998
Afghanistan 1998
Yugoslavia 1999
Yemen 2002
Iraq 1991-2003 (US/UK on regular no-fly-zone basis)
Iraq 2003-2011 (Second Gulf War)
Afghanistan 2001 to present
Pakistan 2007 to present
Somalia 2007-8, 2011 to present
Yemen 2009, 2011 to present
Libya 2011
Syria 2013?
The above list doesn’t include the repeated use by the United States of depleted uranium, cluster bombs, white phosphorous, and other charming inventions of the Pentagon mad scientists; also not included: chemical and biological weapons abroad, chemical and biological weapons in the United States (sic), and encouraging the use of chemical and biological weapons by other nations; all these lists can be found in William Blum’s book 11 Indeed, during that war the United States was the primary supplier to Iraq of the chemicals and hardware necessary to provide the Saddam Hussein regime with a chemical-warfare capability.12

Now, apparently, the United States has discovered how horrible chemical warfare is, even if only of the “alleged” variety.

Humanitarian intervention

Some of those currently advocating bombing Syria turn for justification to their old faithful friend “humanitarian intervention”, one of the earliest examples of which was the 1999 US and NATO bombing campaign to stop ethnic cleansing and drive Serbian forces from Kosovo. However, a collective amnesia appears to have afflicted countless intelligent, well-meaning people, who are convinced that the US/NATO bombing took place after the mass forced deportation of ethnic Albanians from Kosovo was well underway; which is to say that the bombing was launched to stop this “ethnic cleansing”. In actuality, the systematic forced deportations of large numbers of people from Kosovo did not begin until a few days after the bombing began, and was clearly a Serbian reaction to it, born of extreme anger and powerlessness. This is easily verified by looking at a daily newspaper for the few days before the bombing began the night of March 23/24, and the few days after. Or simply look at the New York Times of March 26, page 1, which reads:

… with the NATO bombing already begun, a deepening sense of fear took hold in Pristina [the main city of Kosovo] that the Serbs would NOW vent their rage against ethnic Albanian civilians in retaliation.

On March 27, we find the first reference to a “forced march” or anything of that sort.

But the propaganda version is already set in marble.

If you see something, say something. Unless it’s US war crimes.

“When you sign a security clearance and swear oaths, you actually have to abide by that. It is not optional.” – Steven Bucci, of the neo-conservative Heritage Foundation, speaking of Chelsea Manning (formerly known as Bradley)13

Really? No matter what an individual with security clearance is asked to do? No matter what he sees and knows of, he still has to ignore his conscience and follow orders? But Steven, my lad, you must know that following World War II many Germans, of course, used “following orders” as an excuse. The victorious Allies, of course, executed many of them.

Their death sentences were laid down by the International Military Tribunal at Nuremberg, Germany, which declared that “Individuals have international duties which transcend the national obligations of obedience. Therefore individual citizens have the duty to violate domestic laws to prevent crimes against peace and humanity from occurring.”

Nuremberg Principle IV moreover states: “The fact that a person acted pursuant to order of his Government or of a superior does not relieve him from responsibility under international law, provided a moral choice was in fact possible to him.”

Manning, and Edward Snowden as well, did have moral choices, and they chose them.

It should be noted that Barack Obama has refused to prosecute those under the Bush administration involved in torture specifically – he declares – because they were following orders. Has this “educated” man never heard of the Nuremberg Tribunal? Why isn’t he embarrassed to make this argument again and again?

I imagine that in the past three years that Manning has had to live with solitary confinement, torture and humiliation, adding mightily to her already existing personal difficulties, the thought of suicide has crossed her mind on a number of occasions. It certainly would have with me if I had been in her position. In the coming thousands and thousands of days and long nights of incarceration such thoughts may be Manning’s frequent companion. If the thoughts become desire, and the desire becomes unbearable, I hope the brave young woman can find a way to carry it out. Every person has that right, including heroes.

The United States and its European poodles may have gone too far for their own good in their attempts to control all dissenting communication – demanding total information from companies engaged in encrypted messaging, forcing the closure of several such firms, obliging the plane carrying the Bolivian president to land, smashing the computers at a leading newspaper, holding a whistle-blowing journalist’s partner in custody for nine hours at an airport, seizing the phone records of Associated Press journalists, threatening to send a New York Times reporter to jail if he doesn’t disclose the source of a leak, shameless lying at high levels, bugging the European Union and the United Nations, surveillance without known limits … Where will it end? Will it backfire at some point and allow America to return to its normal level of police state? On July 24, a bill that would have curtailed the power of the NSA was only narrowly defeated by 217 to 205 votes in the US House of Representatives.

And how long will Amnesty International continue to tarnish its image by refusing to state the obvious? That Cheleas Manning is a Prisoner of Conscience. If you go to Amnesty’s website and search “prisoner of conscience” you’ll find many names given, including several Cubans prominently featured. Can there be any connection to Manning’s omission with the fact that the executive director of Amnesty International USA, Suzanne Nossel, came to her position from the US Department of State, where she served as Deputy Assistant Secretary for International Organizations?

A phone call to Amnesty’s office in New York was unable to provide me with any explanation for Manning’s omission. I suggest that those of you living in the UK try the AI headquarters in London.

Meanwhile, at the other pre-eminent international human rights organization, Human Rights Watch, Tom Malinowski, the director of HRW’s Washington office, has been nominated by Obama to be Assistant Secretary of State for Democracy, Human Rights and Labor. Is it really expecting too much that a high official of a human rights organization should not go to work for a government that has been the world’s leading violator of human rights for more than half a century? And if that designation is too much for you to swallow just consider torture, the worst example of mankind’s inhumanity to man. What government has been intimately involved with that horror more than the United States? Teaching it, supplying the manuals, supplying the equipment, creation of torture centers in much of the world, kidnapping people to these places (“rendition”), solitary confinement, forced feeding, Guantánamo, Abu Ghraib, Bagram, Chile, Brazil, Argentina, Chicago … Lord forgive us!

Surrounding Russia

One of the reactions of the United States to Russia granting asylum to Edward Snowden was reported thus: “There was a blistering response on Capitol Hill and calls for retaliatory measures certain to infuriate the Kremlin. Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.), long one of the Senate’s leading critics of Moscow, blasted the asylum decision as ‘a slap in the face of all Americans’ and called on the administration to turn up the pressure on Moscow on a variety of fronts, including a renewed push for NATO expansion and new missile-defense programs in Europe.”14

But we’ve long been told that NATO expansion and its missiles in Europe have nothing to do with Russia. And Russia has been told the same, much to Moscow’s continuous skepticism. “Look,” said Russian president Vladimir Putin about NATO in 2001, “this is a military organization. It’s moving towards our border. Why?”15 He subsequently described NATO as “the stinking corpse of the cold war.”16

We’ve been told repeatedly by the US government that the missiles are for protection against an Iranian attack. Is it (choke) possible that the Bush and Obama administrations have been (gasp) lying to us?

America’s love affair with Guns

Adam Kokesh is a veteran of the war in Iraq who lives in the Washington, DC area. He’s one of the countless Americans who’s big on guns, guns that will be needed to protect Americans from their oppressive government, guns that will be needed for “the revolution”.

On July 4 the 31-year-old Kokesh had a video made of himself holding a shotgun and loading shells into it while speaking into the camera as he stood in Freedom Plaza, a federal plot of land in between the Washington Monument and the Capitol. This led to a police raid of his home and his being arrested on the 25th for carrying a firearm outside his home or office. The 23-second video can be seen on YouTube.17

I sent Kokesh the following email:

Adam: All your weapons apparently didn’t help you at all when the police raided your house. But supposedly, people like you advocate an armed populace to protect the public from an oppressive government. I’ve never thought that that made much sense because of the huge imbalance between the military power of the public vs. that of the government. And it seems that I was correct.

I received no reply, although his still being in jail may explain that.

Kokesh, incidentally, had a program on RT (Russia Today) for a short while last year.
Mazars and Deutsche Bank could have ended this nightmare before it started.
They could still get him out of office.
But instead, they want mass death.
Don’t forget that.
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