Alien Abductions and the Monarch Project

[Hugh Manatee Wins]

There is an ongoing psy-ops campaign in the Operation Mockingbird media to channel interest in psy-ops into safe channels that don't threaten power. 'They' know we know and 'they' are throwing more haystack around the needles.

Today NPR interviewed a Harvard prof on "why we curse."

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=15370150
(Steven Pinker Comes to the 'F' Word's Defense)

Yesterday Alex Constantine spotlighted Tourette therapist, Leslie Packer, in a headline for a recap article on the FMSF, Aquino, pain-inducing weapons, the whole Nein! yards...

http://aconstantineblacklist.blogspot.com/2007/10/discredited-tourette-therapist-leslie.html
(Discredited Tourette Therapist Leslie Packer is a Temple of Set "Bodyguard")

All you coincidentalists can blow out another candle and celebrate the dark.

[Dreams End]

Actually, I mainly posted this because so much of the "weirdness" around here traces to this thread. I've been told that we can never figure out who "they" are...the people messing with others online. Yet I've found one of them.

Meanwhile, if you look on page 32, Whitley Strieber says he knows who One Smart Rat is. Says the police were even surveilling her her when she moved to his town of Austin.

So one reason I posted this is so that rather than smugly and knowingly winking when someone like OSR starts messing people, we need to be sharing information about who these folks are.

That's likely not possible on this forum these days but I resurrected the thread so we could all see some of this in play.

[sunny]

DE, we weren't "smugly and knowingly winking" about One Smart Rat. She was banned pretty quickly, and deservedly so.

[Dreams End]

I'm not talking about you, sunny. When this started...Ego decided I was being "messed with" by OSR. He claimed he understood what was going on but rather than tell me, he was insisting I call him. I was feeling pretty manipulated at that point and explained that to him. Trusting people I only knew from online wasn't working out so well at that moment.

He then posted a message to Professor Pan on my blog about how OSR was having me for a snack or something like that, like it was just common knowledge to the universe who OSR was and how she operated. No explanation to anyone else being sucked into this...just a little knowing nudge nudge wink wink.

Ego and I did PM a little bit about it...in PM's that are now lost. He actually didn't seem to know that much. He was suggesting Shawnna was involved with OSR...it's possible but whatever other issues Shawnna had, she had the appearance at least of outing these folks. KT, in fact, had been tracking them via IP's etc. Unfortunately, he had chosen not to give me that info in detail either...another reason I grew suspicious. For the record, OSR's IP currently tracks to San Antonio. Whitley said she was in Austin...but since I think she is a he, I'm not even sure who Whitley was having followed...could all be another lie.

OSR posted under another name on my forum...I can find which one, I'm forgetting at the moment. Posting clues just like Eve. So that suggests they are working together which, in fact, was what Ego suggested.

But there was no warning issued here about OSR...if you didn't see that thread you'd likely miss it...and I think Ego even agreed with me that there should be more done to publicize when known gameplayers (however you define game) were targeting a board. Instead, it becomes an amusing sideshow.

It seems to me a better approach is to have some public notice when such folks have targeted a board. I'm glad she was banned, but I think we need to educate as well. Meanwhile, what to make of those who championed her cause? Do we know for sure that people who come here suffering from trauma are not being contacted privately and being given the OSR treatment. See how quick she was to "diagnose" Joe Hillhoist as being both Monarch AND an abductee? Joe strikes me as a pretty stable person...if we can judge by writing...but others are not. Does it bother no one else that this board has been used as a hunting ground?

This stuff is not funny. If the hoax was all on me...and they had nothing to do with Duncan (though doesn't Duncan's blog sound like it was influenced by such folks in the last couple months?) there's plenty to learn from there. Who are they? How do they operate? What other parapolitical/paranormal sites have they contaminated? And perhaps even, who do they work for?

Write me off...well that's been done. But other people read this board and aren't as vocal. Who knows how this affects them? There was a woman writing both Jeff and me, claiming to be suicidal and primarily as a result of interactions with this same group on the Whitley board. She wrote me under five or six different names. Then decided I was in on it and said I'd be glad when they found her dead body. Now she's back and posting cryptic stuff (though not seeming to be related to Duncan) on my blog. (she's admitted to being the same person who wrote the other emails) So maybe she's just another game player...but it's the kind of thing that could easily end up happening for real.

Anyway...do what you want. But I'd like to suggest that the harm from these kinds of psycho games can be minimized if moderators who are in a position to know more about who is posting, can educate readers. OSR was banned for her Jew hate...and that's important obviously, but it's the instant diagnosis, cult guru like behavior that should be of concern here as well. her followers are still around (if "followers" is even the right term).

[LilyPatToo]

This is a very confusing situation and I don't know anything at all about any tie-in with you or the ARG/whatever-it-is, DE. But I think I may know a little bit about the really upset woman who uses many, many handles. I'll gladly tell you--privately--what I know, but I don't want to see her serially victimized on public boards. She seems to me to be a survivor of severe abuse, but whether it's "program" or not, I have no way of knowing for sure.

As for OSR, I can tell you for certain that she's a she. Back in the winter of 2004-5 I met her face-to-face when she made a trip to San Francisco. As much as I owe her for cluing me in on the trauma-based programs, I cannot support many of the actions she's taken lately--she's changed enormously since I met her. If you want to see what she was like in 2004, go to UC and read the first month of the "When there are witness(sic) thread in the UFO topic area.

This places me in a very uncomfortable position, but if any of my information will help you, just ask. I won't talk about her online beyond what I've said above. I am not her "follower" although I did try to do some damage control online for quite a while--which ended up helping her not at all and damaging my own credibility. That's over and done with.

There has indeed been some extremely confusing and occasionally vicious game-playing going on at multiple boards--I know this because some of it was directed at me. "Psycho games" is an apt description. If anything that I know would help to put a spike in the wheel of whoever is behind this, I will share what I know with you, but not on a public board. I think that by now you may be aware that some of this is not just a case of people with assorted screws loose--my own opinion is that some of the pros in the online disinfo game are a couple of layers deep in the background. And one may be closer than that.

And in case anyone reading this has the impression that I'm playing games here by not posting what I know, please believe me--I'm not. I've gotten badly burned by some very sly, malicious people and I'm simply not willing to provide target practice for them any longer. No games are being played on my part. If I had proof, I'd out them in a New York second, believe me.

LilyPat

DE, you have my email address or you can PM me through this board.

[Dreams End]

Lilypat,

Don't worry about that person. She is back to emailing me and linking to a very LONG thread by frankenkitty at some other forum. It's like 27 pages by one person. So, she did not kill herself and seems quite chipper, actually.

LPT...I have to ask...here are some of the statements of OSR only on this board...and this you believe to be credible:

well, I hate to tell you but there are no "reptillian aliens." I know this theme is a fav amongst the UFO abduction crowd and yes, I have actually seen "reptilian looking creatures" but indeed, as I said earler, we are dealing with highly advanced mind control tech and believe me, they know and understand us (and our deepest primal fears) better then we know and understand ourselves. The robots that were created by an off planet colonizing agent ( actually they are intermediaries or mercenaries for a third party) are indeed very physical and appear and "pretend" to be a biological species as they are programmed accordingly. They are a deception designed to perform basic routine mind control "maintenance sessions" and also as a training/programming mechanism for young children (abductees).

Or do you approve of this kind of instant diagnosing based on a couple of forum posts:

You have Cult intitation/inculcation in your history ...childhood most certainly. This would most likely indicate that you come from a Cult-connected family and or have the occult path operating through intergenerational bloodlines. You most certainly are a natural intuitive, an extremly powerful one in fact, however you have been taught to mute it and you also have some doubt and ambivalence, perhaps as a part of the programming to get your conscious mind to 'keep it in check." However, from certain details you gave in your account, it is my opinion, you have been finely-tweaked in terms of trauma-conditioned "training" to develope these natural talents.

If you have children, they may also be "involved." If you are married or hooked up with someone in a long-term relationship, it's also possible that your partner is involved ...because in nature; like attracts like even on subconscious levels. I call this the "watering-hole rule." Remember, I said "may" in this regard.

I will stop there.

If these above observations are correct, then I have no doubt that you, my friend, are a Monarch Multiple.

or this racial analysis:

I need to stop you right now and ask you something. You say your father was Black, so let me ask you, and please don't take offense, was he mixed race Black? Was your mother Black also? I need to know in order to evaluate your situation. What is the full nature of your ancestry? Were you born in Britain?

You won't understand completely of course, because I haven't told you everything about certain aspects of your story and why I recognized right away something that really is only done with people who have a prior history as well as people who are trauma-conditioned multiples. I know that your references as are most people's informed from common sources and the over gestalt of what is actually happening is little undersatood or, as the case may be, completely misinterpetted. However, that misinterpetation is intentionally engineeered.

You should know that in your story, what happned to you and your subsequent memory and understanding of it based on that memory WAS ENGINEERED.

And look, lilypat...there ARE aliens (or demons?) involved after all:

There is human engineered psyops and other-than-human engineered psyops. Both include and involve extra-earthly technology as well as extra earthly "technique."

Get it man?

Your mind is a child's playground for these people and their space cousins et al.

You are mental silly putty in their hands. A fragile chemical electrical balance of synapses and nerves and minute neurochemical exhanges in a biophysical stew is all that separate you from your, (or their) wildest delusions.

You were "chasing" a pre-manufactured delusion, man; like a dog chasing his own tail, only thinking it's someone else's tail.

Get a grip. You are not the highest living thing in the old cosmic food chain hierarchy, okay?

And the Easter Bunny isn't real either.

And I love this little bit (and no...ego, I'm not saying she's you...you know how to spell "ego" that much is certain):

"What do you think was going on, and why would they bother with me?"

Need your permission to answer that one onboard.

(See your message box.)

Read your account.

Second possibility will reveal potential angst.

You may want to re-align your ego-defense mechanism for this one.

(The big 'uns always fall the hardest).


The bloodiest battles always emanate from within.


Et En Arcadia Ergo.

(Ring a bell?)


I'll hold the towel when you come out swinging.


May want to stay with my first conclusion (first alter op).

I recommend the blue pill in this case, Neo.


Thanks for the memories....


Don't say you weren't warned ...


lol

But jokes aside how can you possibly justify this instant diagnosis...if Joe (I think that's who this referred to) were in psychological crisis at that moment this could have pushed him too far. Or anyone.

Meanwhile, I can say for sure that whoever wrote all these posts on this thread (they all come from this thread) is NOT the same I've seen post in other places. Except for "ergo", this rat can spell.

The deal is, the rat comes on, says, "I'm going to say stuff and piss people off..." sets a timer and then waits to see how long it takes to get banned.

And this, folks, is why I got into the ARG business in the first place, because all of that material was utilized for the ARG called El Centro, which in turn was used to recruit puppet masters for future args, according to Matheny. So maybe OSR won that contest? If OSR is even one rat...I think it is many rats.

I am truly sorry, LPT, if you believe this person and have arranged your life accordingly. But that doesn't mean we sit back and allow this sort of thing to continue. It's not because I don't believe in MKULTRA and child abuse and pedo networks that this is important to me, it's because I do.

And I'm posting this here on THIS board because it needs to be heard here because so many people who have these issues or merely suspect they have these issues or want to learn more about the reality of them come to this place...

or what's left of it.

Here's an interesting idea. It is clear to me that "eve", now known to be Beth Kennison, was aware of Duncan even before the alleged suicide. Could she and the rat been feeding DUNCAN this stuff...did they convince her that she was so far gone in the cult's grasp that she had no other choice but to kill herself? That's not my theory but for those who think I"m full of shit...it's one worth checking out. SOMEBODY has access to her computer...or at least they did. The Gaskell post was removed several weeks AFTER she died.

Anyway, I really didn't mean to bring this back to Duncan...but I think it will be clear that "Eve" was watching Duncan's blog and commenting on it in Jeff's comments section, whether or not "Aloha to a lonely wit" is relevant. And since OSR was participating in the clue leaving...you did know that, right LPT? OSR, posting under a different name, was leaving Duncan clues right along with Eve. Same IP.

So OSR was playing the same game as Beth. Why do you think that is?

[Dreams End]

Just kinda putting all this OSR stuff in one spot. If we want to understand why no one takes this material seriously...

No, it is not as it appeasr or is represented to be ...in other words, the "aliens" that most recall during their abductions-mind control sessions are not biological; they are robots. Fancy-ass robots, perhaps cybernetic, but still, they are robots; the are not a race or a species. They were designed by others to do exactly the one things they do; appear as a race of 'space beings" and perform routine "torture sessions" (aka cosmic "research") on preselected and preconditoned individuals who have been "chosen" from birth, in most cases, to be as part of this program.

The "others" are human ...or humanoid, related to us, but perhaps one might say they are our "cosmic cousins." They began as mercenaries for a third party. That "third party" is an element that is entirely so non-human in it's presentation that we, as human beings, are incapable of comprehending it. I mean literally incapable. It can be discerned by those who have been "intitated" but even then it is only through a filter that resembles physical existence and it's extremely stressful (both physically and otherwise) on the human enduring it's presence. So, the intermediaries were contracted as they were related to us; more specifically to a certain tribe and they could move among us and control and manipulate us to the overall agenda with a much more intimate hand.

That tribe was given a "special status" amongst the 'colonized slaves' as human beings were in fact essentially a slave race to beign with, although there is some question as to the origins of the earlier indigenous races that lived unmolested on this plent before the "colonizing agent (s)" came. That they were seeded here by yet another race or group may in fact be the case. Whatever the case, they were difficult to fool gentically so a group from a local recently destroyed planet was brought here, probably in test tubes at first, then bred for work ...and later for the 'colonizer's genes that would biologically drive them to basicallly kill and pillage anyone NOT of their race in an effort to conquer and "pacify" the planet.

The indigenous peoples had to be destroyed and or dramaticaly reduced and gotten out of the way ... which is exactly what happened.

However, these cosimic cousins, who are genetically related to this group, are indeed Human, but they really don't think much of their hillbilly "Earth cousins" other than to tolerate the "elite elect" who themselves consider their blood/DNA tribal membership to, in fact, be superior to everyone else, mostly because that's what their space cousins have told them for countless generations. No, there are no Praying Mantis's driving spaceships or the much touted "reptillians" ...oh, I know I have seen the 'reptillians" myself ....it's damn good technology and, after all, we are talking about people subjected to periodic mental and physical torture. Shit, after a few sessions of high-tech electronics and mind-altering anal probes, you want me to see reptillians and giant bugs running around spaceships?! Hell, I will see exactly that! Plus, as I said, they have some pretty far out tech. Advanced projected "wrap-around" (360 degrees) holography plays a big part in these kinds of abduction experiences.

Huh...THIS rat has sucky spelling.

[LilyPatToo]

DE, I offered to help you privately--for good reason--and this is how you respond, by publicly challenging me to reveal information here that I've already clearly stated I don't feel comfortable posting about publicly?!

WTF are you thinking? I said above what I could say here and what I would prefer to say privately. How dare you bait me like this and make me out to be a fool by those insulting rhetorical questions above? I am not at all comfortable with being used by you to make your points here. I find it rude and completely uncalled-for.

If this is how you treat all the people who approach you and offer their piece of the puzzle, your career as an investigator is going to be very brief and unnecessarily contentious.

LilyPat

[Dreams End]

What are you talking about...I haven't asked you for any information? In fact I don't WANT any information from you. Your judgment is a bit impaired, I'm afraid.

Hey, here's a hoot:

Anonymous said...

I haven't quite figured out how to post my comments other than "anonymously". My usual handle at various boards I comment on is "rothbardian". I wanted to say I appreciate your efforts. I just stumbled across your "rant" manifesto a couple of days ago and then proceeded to scour the Internet for any other of your comments.

Your insights are very interesting in how they seem to corroborate much of the "Svali" material, Cathy O'Brien, Kathleen Sullivan, Susan Ford et al.

Time permitting I was going to post a "Ode to OneSmartRat" over at Rigorous Intuition where I am a member. For them to 'ban' you...with your potential treasure trove of info, and your energetic resistance against these psychopathic 'powers that be'...is probably the absolute dumbest thing that has ever happened over there.

God bless you for your heroic courage in speaking out. I have questions and comments about your stuff at a later time.

This was posted in the comments of OSR's "Whitley is a Jew" thread. And no, LPT, I don't want any information about THAT either.

http://onesmartrat-onesmartrat.blogspot ... art-i.html

[theeKultleeder]

Thankfully, honest human interaction brings forth the poisonous elements. Mature human communication flushes out the poison.

[Dreams End]

Oh the irony....

Anyway, here is the crux of the matter. OSR does believe in aliens. So she's not different from Strieber at all.

Oh fuck it ...why bother with all this explanation as if that makes any difference at all as to whether anyone believes me or not?? Hell, just "'out with it" I say.
God is an alien.

Duh.

http://onesmartrat-onesmartrat.blogspot ... art-i.html

[LilyPatToo]

DE, you are wrong about a bunch of things, a couple of which I could have shed light upon. But your astounding rudeness here and your complete lack of any sort of patience or empathy or depth of understanding is going to sink you like a stone.

You've judged me harshly and prematurely--I'm just at the beginning of my own figuring-out process when it comes to what sorts of games have been played on me and by whom. But from what you say above, I do know a few things that you don't. For starters, you are dead wrong about my relationship with OSR and about my own personal motives in sticking my neck out and getting involved here, but you're too presumptuous to listen long enough to figure that out, aren't you?

It may have escaped your notice, but I'm picking my way through the same minefield that you are, but with much less in the way of armor and with prior damage. My "impaired judgement" has come a long, long way since we last corresponded--but you didn't bother to find that out, did you?

It's a damned shame that your drive and intellect, which impressed me so much when I first read your posts and your blog, is so hobbled and crippled by your overweening arrogance. You are definitely being played, young man, and frankly, at this point, I think you deserve the runaround you're getting. I wish you joy of it.

LilyPat

[11:11]

Whoa. I just clicked on this thread because I saw LilyPat's name (and she is a friend), and it looks like there is some slander going on about OSR. First of all how very convenient when she is banned and cannot answer the lies. And, why was she banned? If I recall, she spoke about the cult who abused her, and exactly who they are. She's a friend of mine, and like LilyPat, she and I have our disagreements (OSR is a hard core collectivist, and I'm a RP supporter). That said, I will not sit idly by and allow her to be lied about. I'll be the first to encourage her to get an attorney and take action. Better get ready to start fucking PROVING what you're saying.

[theeKultleeder]

Whoa.

You believe anything that boosts your false sense of reality; you reject anything that throws you in a state of mental turbulence.

As a friend,

tKl

[Jeff]

It's a damned shame that your drive and intellect, which impressed me so much when I first read your posts and your blog, is so hobbled and crippled by your overweening arrogance. You are definitely being played, young man, and frankly, at this point, I think you deserve the runaround you're getting. I wish you joy of it.
LilyPat