Yea, not the same, but sometimes I have an automatic running conversation in my head- sorta the cautious me and the contentious me- where I/they take any odd situation to the nth degree. Its a weird thought process that gets me nowhere and is hard to stop. But I suppose this belongs on that thread. But maybe it belongs here. But it has nothing to do with Aurora. But it is about psychological states of mind. But its not about the suspects state of mind, and on and on ad nauseum.
^ yes I think it's clear that Holmes is the latest in a long line of mind-controlled patsies, distinguished by what appears to be the wholesale destruction of his brain. Two months ago he was on a fast track to an enviable medical career, today he's a ridiculous-looking zombie who can't even answer to his own name when addressed in court. Here's what he was last spring:
Getting admitted to the graduate program in neurosciences at the University of Colorado's Anschutz Medical Campus was a big deal: Students come in with grade point averages above 3.6 and with top Graduate Record Examination scores, said Barry Shur, dean of the graduate school.
"Better than I would have done," he said.
As one of only six first-year students admitted to the program last year, Holmes received a stipend of $26,000 from the university's National Institutes of Health grant, plus funds for his tuition and fees.
I don't believe it's possible that this happened naturally or that Holmes shot a single person, for several reasons, not the least being he had no motive. Motive is always the sticking point in these affairs and so we get the usual pastiche of cornball lone-wolf theories like the neighbor's speculation that he was bullied. A 24 year-old who has gotten into a competitive medical graduate program is not going to feel bullied: anything but.
Nevertheless somebody had a motive, or more likely a multi-item agenda as is usually the case in big splashy psy-ops like this one, at least some on the unbelievably petty political level of changing the 2012 campaign narrative which at the time of the shooting was going badly against Romney. He hasn't exactly improved things in London but at least he got a week's breather and respite from those Bane /Bain photoshops that were all over the web until Holmes and company turned the latest batflick into a Solemn National Event:
Would they go to such lengths to bail out a candidate who's surely going to lose in any case? I honestly didn't believe it at first, but seeing what kind of shape Romney's campaign is actually in, along with that billboard which will no doubt pop up in all twelve swing states, I believe it now. It might be just one agenda item but it's higher on the list than I would have thought.
A person who enters a conversation or place without being invited. The way to describe the action of a jimbo is "jimming in". Who invited this jimbo to the party?
Sounds like him.
Does it?
I'm not a doctor, but I do know that auditory hallucinations are an indicator of schizophrenia, #daug.
Nothing personal, I'm just unusually delighted by watching the Markov Chain game of telephone this story has turned into.
It was a joke. You know, he invited himself to the movie, entered the place without being invited, etc. etc. etc.
Maybe too soon for any humor ......
"He who wounds the ecosphere literally wounds God" -- Philip K. Dick
Assuming he is mc patsy, the only exception to the norm is the choice of the victim, and his background. good people were messed up before, but they didnt belong to the profile that gets sympathy here, let alone if they are not americans per se. could be a blessing in disguise, that will shed light on the technology. Usually, these families of solid all american origins do not remain passive and are better equipped to deal with these dark issues. Same happened with MKultra, by and large after the death of that scientist who jumped to death. In other cases the families are either disempowered or fucked up so bad, they are ineffective.
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hava007 wrote:Same happened with MKultra, by and large after the death of that scientist who jumped to death.
^ yes the Olson family was very persistent and eventually got a presidential apology:
President Ford and Olson family.
President Gerald Ford invited the Olson family to the White House, apologized to the widow and her children, and promised a full accounting. CIA Director William Colby then invited Olson’s widow and her oldest son, Eric, to lunch in his office and gave them a redacted CIA file on Frank Olson.
In return for what finally appeared to be the truth, the family dropped its lawsuit and agreed to a settlement. But they had been deceived again. The facts changed to say that Olson’s death was related to the infamous MK-ULTRA mind control experiments, but the conclusion that he fell or jumped remained the same.
Further investigation convinced the Olsons that Frank had actually been murdered. The full story with links to official documents can be found on Eric Olson’s website http://www.FrankOlsonProject.org.
But I'm not sure Holmes will get that kind of support. His father is apparently connected to FICO and the LIBOR investigation and the word is that Holmes was adopted. And his mother's remark that "you have the right person," even though she later protested that she'd been misinterpreted, is chilling. Are the folks in on the game, voluntarily or involuntarily? Time will tell but I'm not banking on a vigorous defense.
lupercal wrote:I don't believe it's possible that this happened naturally or that Holmes shot a single person, for several reasons, not the least being he had no motive. Motive is always the sticking point in these affairs and so we get the usual pastiche of cornball lone-wolf theories like the neighbor's speculation that he was bullied. A 24 year-old who has gotten into a competitive medical graduate program is not going to feel bullied: anything but.
I agree.
Means, motive and opportunity.
I always thought motive was a useful if not essential part in determining who is guilty of a given crime.
Nowadays iteration of the simple mantra "lone nut" suffices to dispense with any such consideration.