7/7 Dallas Shooting

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Re: 7/7 Dallas Shooting

Postby 0_0 » Sat Jul 16, 2016 8:25 pm

Also, if you look at this video of the stand-off which was posted here earlier:



The guy taking the video from his balcony actually can see the suspect pacing behind a lit window (at 2:22 although tbh the guy keeps saying he sees him pacing around but i don't). Now admittedly i don't know that much about sniping, but wouldn't a police sniper have been able to take him out from that balcony?
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Re: 7/7 Dallas Shooting

Postby MacCruiskeen » Sat Jul 16, 2016 8:29 pm

I can't see him either, 0_0. No idea what the guy is talking about. Even if there is someone there, it could easily be one of the many students and staff who were still in the building. Certainly you can't blame the cops for not taking a potshot at some random unidentifiable shadowy figure in a window.

In any case, I'm still far from convinced that anyone ever fired a bullet at the street from any "elevated position" at all. Originally we were told that every one of the victims had been hit by a bullet from one of several "snipers" "perched" somewhere up high, while the shooter on the street remained unmentioned for days. Now they say the shooter on the street caused all the casualties but one. Now they're down to one officer only who was allegedly shot outside a 7/11 from the second floor of the college.
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Re: 7/7 Dallas Shooting

Postby 0_0 » Sat Jul 16, 2016 8:37 pm

Well if they send in a robot packed with explosives the police obviously knew exactly where the suspect was, so couldn't they have used a sniper instead? I don't know how conventional that would have been but using a robot seems unconventional for sure.

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Re: 7/7 Dallas Shooting

Postby MacCruiskeen » Sat Jul 16, 2016 8:43 pm

Did they ever even consider using tear gas? It incapacitates anyone in an instant. Not only can you not see, you cannot breathe.
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Re: 7/7 Dallas Shooting

Postby MacCruiskeen » Sat Jul 16, 2016 8:50 pm

All this speculation about what they could and couldn't do is just pissing in the wind anyway, until we finally see this legendary "brick corner" where The Unstoppable Micah Johnson was allegedly inaccessibly holed up.

Maybe the FBI are building that brick corner as we speak. They could have gotten Micah Johnson to do it for them if he wasn't already dead and buried. Young Micah was by all accounts a lousy shot but a trained mason and carpenter.
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Re: 7/7 Dallas Shooting

Postby stickdog99 » Sat Jul 16, 2016 9:14 pm

MacCruiskeen » 17 Jul 2016 00:10 wrote:
The decision to use a bomb

Brown said he faced a difficult choice -- with no way to send officers after the gunman without further jeopardizing their lives.

"He was secreted behind a brick corner," he said, "and the only way to get a sniper shot to end his trying to kill us would be to expose officers to grave danger."

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Re: 7/7 Dallas Shooting

Postby backtoiam » Sat Jul 16, 2016 9:56 pm

"The guy taking the video from his balcony actually can see the suspect pacing behind a lit window (at 2:22 although tbh the guy keeps saying he sees him pacing around but i don't). Now admittedly i don't know that much about sniping, but wouldn't a police sniper have been able to take him out from that balcony?"


The video guy does not mean pacing on the balcony. I suppose it could be the balcony but it looks like the movement is inside the window. He means inside the room on the top lit window. If you look very closely at the bottom of the top lit window you will notice a slight dark shadow move across the bottom of the window. He assumes that is the shooter. Is it? I don't know.
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Re: 7/7 Dallas Shooting

Postby Iamwhomiam » Sun Jul 17, 2016 1:22 am

Randy Biart's video:



Anyone know the names of the streets, the one appearing horizontal and that appearing vertical in these videos?

Although I reviewed the campus maps available at the link I provided earlier, I am still unsure which two these are. Anyone? Bueller?

Maps of El Centro College campus: http://tinyurl.com/hb9zx8k

http://rigorousintuition.ca/board2/viewtopic.php?p=603223#p603223

The college website is up, but the campus map did not load. However, they offer a link to google maps of the site under directions to their campuses. https://www.dcccd.edu/Coll/MapsLoc/ElCentro/Pages/default.aspx Here's the map:
http://tinyurl.com/h7krbej

It gets interesting. Following my own suggestion to look for another taller building behind the videographer, I zoomed out a bit and looked at the satellite view to see what possible vantage points another shooter might be available along what I imagined would be the line of flight.

The Federal Building.
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Re: 7/7 Dallas Shooting

Postby 8bitagent » Sun Jul 17, 2016 12:04 pm

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Re: 7/7 Dallas Shooting

Postby 82_28 » Sun Jul 17, 2016 12:11 pm

Was coming here to post just that, 8bit. Wow. We are in for something not good.
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Re: 7/7 Dallas Shooting

Postby DrEvil » Sun Jul 17, 2016 12:41 pm

MacCruiskeen » Sun Jul 17, 2016 2:43 am wrote:Did they ever even consider using tear gas? It incapacitates anyone in an instant. Not only can you not see, you cannot breathe.


This. They could have bombarded him with tear gas and flashbangs and then moved in with ballistic shields or bomb-squad suits for that matter, but instead they used half a friggin' pound of C4. They clearly wanted him dead, which is understandable since he just killed several of their colleagues, but it's still a straight up execution. Same as that guy who declared war on the cops a while back and was burned alive while the cops watched and did nothing.
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Re: 7/7 Dallas Shooting

Postby Iamwhomiam » Sun Jul 17, 2016 12:49 pm

one pound of C4, not 1/2.
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Re: 7/7 Dallas Shooting

Postby DrEvil » Sun Jul 17, 2016 2:07 pm

Ah, my bad. That makes it all OK then. :D
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Re: 7/7 Dallas Shooting

Postby Iamwhomiam » Sun Jul 17, 2016 2:40 pm

^^^^ Just looking to keep you out of the Liars Club.
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Re: 7/7 Dallas Shooting

Postby MacCruiskeen » Sun Jul 17, 2016 2:48 pm

DrEvil » Sun Jul 17, 2016 11:41 am wrote:
MacCruiskeen » Sun Jul 17, 2016 2:43 am wrote:Did they ever even consider using tear gas? It incapacitates anyone in an instant. Not only can you not see, you cannot breathe.


This. They could have bombarded him with tear gas and flashbangs and then moved in with ballistic shields or bomb-squad suits for that matter, but instead they used half a friggin' pound of C4. They clearly wanted him dead, which is understandable since he just killed several of their colleagues, but it's still a straight up execution. Same as that guy who declared war on the cops a while back and was burned alive while the cops watched and did nothing.


You're begging the question there.

But yes, they were judge, jury and executioner.
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