Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

[alloneword]

The other thing about that graph (besides the deceptive use of the word 'unvaccinated') is that it shows cumulative figures, in an obvious attempt to look more scary.

The figures that it is based on appear to be expressed as a rate per 100,000 (of county population of around 136,000).


https://humboldtgov.org/DocumentCenter/ ... --20220203

Then there's the denominators question.

Clearly the definition of 'fully vaccinated' has changed several times along the course of this data, but I see no effort made to indicate where.

Yet in their 'dashboard', they claim 86,972 as being 'fully vaccinated', which (by their definition) means 3 doses each, yes? Well that would mean 260,376 doses, yet they claim to have administered only 173,938.

My rough calculations show that if you shift the ~9k 'partially vaxxxed' from the from the 'unvaxxed' to the 'vaxxed' denominator, the hospitalisation rate for 'unvaxxed' drops by over 22%, whilst the 'fully vaxxed' rate climbs over 10%.

Whatever, it's all of little interest when - as is so often the case - the actual source data is not provided.

[Harvey]

Observational study of 223,128 subjects with Ivermectin shows 90% reduction in mortality and 44% reduction in cases:

https://www.cureus.com/articles/82162-i ... e-matching

[Belligerent Savant]

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Fantastic data crunching, alloneword. Amazing the amount of effort involved -- which most won't undertake (for understandable reasons: most don't have the time or the inclination) -- to gain appropriate context.


Good news Re: Ivermectin, though it's old news for those that benefited from it over the past ~year.

This here does not bode well for Pfizer stock holders... or consumers:

Pfizer added new and peculiar items deep in its business risk disclosures re: clinical trial data, today in its Q4 earnings.

https://twitter.com/rubiconcapital_/sta ... Qk5g2obs9A

[Harvey]

Caveats apply, but at face value, this seems extremely interesting.

Hospital Attempt To Murder A Car Crash Victim by Claiming He Had 'Covid'

https://www.bitchute.com/video/gIdYi5EFYRFU/

[alloneword]

^^ Good catch, Harvey. Extremely interesting, indeed.

@BSav: It takes less effort the more you do it... I swear I spent most of the time just staring at the numbers trying to remember what the hell I was trying to do, then most of the rest looking for my glasses.

That stuff on Pfizer's newly identified risk regarding "further information regarding the quality of pre-clinical, clinical or safety data .. by audit or inspection" is telling, if perhaps unsurprising. The little actual data we do have is bad enough.

At some point I was planning to take the UKHSA 'Vaccine Surveillance Report' data and do the calculations as performed in the 'Pfizer trials' on it to generate 'relative risk reduction' figures. See if we can beat that '95%'.

[stickdog99]

Obviously, skewed propaganda purposefully meant to make the vaccines look awesome are always unquestionable.

And anything else comes from a questionable source.

Have you ever been to Humboldt County? I have. There are three tiers to society. The rich land barons and carpetbagger, the poor hippies, and the poorer rednecks. Which of these do you think tend to die younger with or without COVID-19? And which of these do you think are most highly and lowly vaccinated?

The Native Americans are the population with the lowest vaccination rate in Humboldt County by far and lowest life expectancy. Born in Eureka. I live in far northeast Humboldt north and east of Yurok and Hupa Reservations, and within The Ancestral Territory of the Karuk (itself within 6Rivers National Forest) near Orleans on the Klamath River.

I am not Native American but I am a native of Humboldt County and have always maintained a place whether parents when young or my own once as adult.

You do not have a good handle on Humboldt leaving out NA, meth/fent heads, Libertarians (IMO most growers), rich hippies, old industry remnants, retired, artists, students (as of last week Humboldt State is Cal Poly Humboldt) ...

You are 100% correct that I 100% oversimplified. But still, as you stated the most unvaccinated populations among those subgroups are the ones with lowest life expectancies with or without COVID-19. And my guess is that the students and rich folks are almost 100% vaccinated. Right?

[Joe Hillshoist]

Then there's the denominators question.

Clearly the definition of 'fully vaccinated' has changed several times along the course of this data, but I see no effort made to indicate where.

Yet in their 'dashboard', they claim 86,972 as being 'fully vaccinated', which (by their definition) means 3 doses each, yes? Well that would mean 260,376 doses, yet they claim to have administered only 173,938.

This is on their dashboard page right now:

Individuals Fully Vaccinated - The total number of Humboldt County residents who have received both doses of a two-dose COVID-19 vaccine series or one dose of a single-dose COVID-19 vaccine as reported by CAIR.

So it doesn't mean three doses. it means one or two depending on the vaccine.

My rough calculations show that if you shift the ~9k 'partially vaxxxed' from the from the 'unvaxxed' to the 'vaxxed' denominator, the hospitalisation rate for 'unvaxxed' drops by over 22%, whilst the 'fully vaxxed' rate climbs over 10%.

Whatever, it's all of little interest when - as is so often the case - the actual source data is not provided.

"Partially vaxxed" cannot be counted as vaccinated.

Vaccines don't work immediately. The provoke a response from the body that can take up to two weeks to take effect, and in double dose regimes need both doses to take the proper effect.

That is why there is a category for "partially vaccinated" that stands on its own and isn't considered vaccinated or unvaccinated.

Some partially vaccinated people will have a fully effective response earlier than others but its only something you'd know if you tested everyone for serum levels of anti bodies and had comparisons prior to vaccination. Some people need only one dose of a two dose regime to provoke an effective immune response, other need both doses and two weeks or more to get the same response.

But including it in either data set just fucks with the results or their accuracy.

If you (or anyone else) counts partially vaxxed people as unvaxxed or especially as fully vaxxed you are just manipulating the data to get a result you prefer.

[Harvey]

Obviously, I'm presenting this because it's interesting and typical RI territory, rather than insisting everything said is necessarily accurate. Todd Callender, an attorney, claims Midazolam has been used on non Covid patients in the US to generate Covid-like symptoms before the patient is euthanised.

From 05:50:

https://www.bitchute.com/video/PofhEzAFIrYK/


The interviews in this Icke family production are well worth evaluating in this regard:


https://www.bitchute.com/video/Jgc6smKYJiXq/


In another discussion, Todd Callender references the source document for this:

Thanks for the lead BD...

NASA: Future Strategic Issues: Detonate Seabed Methane to “Produce Tactical/Strategic Level Tidal Waves Against Littoral Regions”
http://cryptogon.com/?p=16971

Wondering if it might be worth considering the document in the context of Covid and mRNA 'gene therapy' in particular among the many things happening simultaneously now.

[Belligerent Savant]

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Pfizer’s own trial data, are starting to be released in response to a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request to the FDA. Cumulatively, between Dec. 1, 2020, and Feb. 28, 2021 — a period of just 2.5 months — Pfizer received 42,086 injury reports, including 1,223 fatalities.

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...not new, although no one seems to care. These numbers would prevent any other product from remaining available.

https://twitter.com/BigBob1481/status/1 ... Cx-hMlIWig

Aaron Kheriaty, MD
@akheriaty
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Vaccine spike antigen & mRNA persist for weeks in lymph node germinal centers. Protein production of cytotoxic spike in people vaccinated with the Moderna or Pfizer vaccine is higher than those of severely ill COVID-19 patients. Concerning implications...

https://t.co/e8rquAq94W

https://twitter.com/akheriaty/status/14 ... Cx-hMlIWig

[mentalgongfu2]

Pfizer’s own trial data, are starting to be released in response to a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request to the FDA. Cumulatively, between Dec. 1, 2020, and Feb. 28, 2021 — a period of just 2.5 months — Pfizer received 42,086 injury reports, including 1,223 fatalities.

Who made the reports? On what basis? Does the drugmaker evaluate them, and if so, what is their conclusion or response? What is substantiated and what is just people flooding their site like they were voting for Boaty McBoatface ? Just as dying with Covid is not the same as dying from Covid, an injury report is not the same as a real injury. Can we get some context to this number?

[Joe Hillshoist]

Obviously, I'm presenting this because it's interesting and typical RI territory, rather than insisting everything said is necessarily accurate. Todd Callender, an attorney, claims Midazolam has been used on non Covid patients in the US to generate Covid-like symptoms before the patient is euthanised.

From 05:50:

https://www.bitchute.com/video/PofhEzAFIrYK/

How is Midazolam supposed to generate COVID like symptoms? Its a respiratory depressive drug but it doesn't create symptoms like covid. (BTW I know how it works cos of my mis-spent yoof as an IV drug user. You don't mix it with opiods cos it might increase the chances of overdose. Like other benzos but especially be careful of it. BTW Haven't used IV drugs since the 90s fwiw. Weed and tryptamines tho...)

The interviews in this Icke family production are well worth evaluating in this regard:


https://www.bitchute.com/video/Jgc6smKYJiXq/


In another discussion, Todd Callender references the source document for this:

Thanks for the lead BD...

NASA: Future Strategic Issues: Detonate Seabed Methane to “Produce Tactical/Strategic Level Tidal Waves Against Littoral Regions”
http://cryptogon.com/?p=16971

Wondering if it might be worth considering the document in the context of Covid and mRNA 'gene therapy' in particular among the many things happening simultaneously now.

According to a site I found on google Todd Callender's mum Kate set up this company with his sister:

https://pharmajet.com/

Sure enough there is a Heather Callender-Potters on the board of directors and she is described as a co-founder of the company. And if you type "Pharmajet founder" into google the first result is a linked in page claiming a Kathleen Callender is the founder.

BTW The company is developing needle free injection technology and partnering with NYkode Therapeutics to develop a DNA based covid 19 vaccine.

https://nykode.com/



There is nothing linking Todd Callender to Pharmajet or the other Callenders I mentioned online.

[stickdog99]

Then there's the denominators question.

Clearly the definition of 'fully vaccinated' has changed several times along the course of this data, but I see no effort made to indicate where.

Yet in their 'dashboard', they claim 86,972 as being 'fully vaccinated', which (by their definition) means 3 doses each, yes? Well that would mean 260,376 doses, yet they claim to have administered only 173,938.

This is on their dashboard page right now:

Individuals Fully Vaccinated - The total number of Humboldt County residents who have received both doses of a two-dose COVID-19 vaccine series or one dose of a single-dose COVID-19 vaccine as reported by CAIR.

So it doesn't mean three doses. it means one or two depending on the vaccine.

My rough calculations show that if you shift the ~9k 'partially vaxxxed' from the from the 'unvaxxed' to the 'vaxxed' denominator, the hospitalisation rate for 'unvaxxed' drops by over 22%, whilst the 'fully vaxxed' rate climbs over 10%.

Whatever, it's all of little interest when - as is so often the case - the actual source data is not provided.

"Partially vaxxed" cannot be counted as vaccinated.

Vaccines don't work immediately. The provoke a response from the body that can take up to two weeks to take effect, and in double dose regimes need both doses to take the proper effect.

That is why there is a category for "partially vaccinated" that stands on its own and isn't considered vaccinated or unvaccinated.

Some partially vaccinated people will have a fully effective response earlier than others but its only something you'd know if you tested everyone for serum levels of anti bodies and had comparisons prior to vaccination. Some people need only one dose of a two dose regime to provoke an effective immune response, other need both doses and two weeks or more to get the same response.

But including it in either data set just fucks with the results or their accuracy.

If you (or anyone else) counts partially vaxxed people as unvaxxed or especially as fully vaxxed you are just manipulating the data to get a result you prefer.

No, only one side is manipulated the numbers.

Fair numbers should compare only COVID-19 associated and overall outcomes of vaxxed populations starting at day one of the very first dose compared to demographically comparable totally unvaxxed populations. Any other comparison is Bayesian data crime rigged in favor of the vaccines.

[MacCruiskeen]

Serious and very basic question: When these "vaccines" were first rolled out (with huge fanfare, remember), did any government anywhere ever suggest that anyone would ever need more than one "jab"?

[stickdog99]

https://twitter.com/DowdEdward/status/1 ... 5791223809

Summation of Major Insurance company corporate group policy Loss Ratios (Death Claims) Q4 rate vs 2019 rate:

Unum $UNM +36%
Lincoln $LNC +57%
Pru $PRU +41%
$RGA +21%
Hartford $HIG +32%
MetLife $MET +24%

Eye opening to say the least!

[alwyn]

i read Robert Mallone's wicki, where does it say he was drummed out of research? I hear lots about him being discredited, but i can't find any creditable sources