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In his second programme, "Tea With The Taliban", Langan delved even deeper into the social, moral and political layers of contemporary Afghanistan. His visit to a crumbling sports stadium outside the city where public executions have taken place was both chilling and incredibly sad. Langan was clearly relieved to get out of there although he did point out that less executions have taken place in Kabul over the last few years than in Texas.
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During his only "official" interview, Langan chatted on camera with local men in a pharmacy, which also served as a venue for social congregation. The men discussed their frustration with Western governments, who they feel offer freedom to their own citizens at the expense of the poor. Their English was impeccable, as was their political awareness. There was no fanatical sentiment, no call to bring down the West, no cravings for "holy war". Langan found the citizens of Kabul in a state of frustration and resentment, but more than ready to explain their plight to the people of the West despite the ominous ever-presence of the Taliban, who continually interrupted the proceedings.
One final trip to the front-line for Langan and this time the intrepid reporter travelled through minefields in a Taliban truck. Again, once the bosses were out of the way, the soldiers he encountered were more than happy to be filmed Langan described the last group he met as going "apeshit" in front of the lens. Watching them waving to London while posing and strutting with their weapons was heart-warming, funny and tragic in equal measures. Clearly unsettled in the densely mined desert Langan was keen to return to the (relative) safety of town, but the men insisted he stay for more talking, filming and a cup of tea clearly, the Taliban are not so different from the Brits after all.
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Although it was filmed just over a year ago, Langan's epic journey in Afghanistan could not have been more pertinent. He dispersed myths, hacked down cultural and religious barriers and gambled with his personal safety in pursuit of the truth. After Langan's riveting reports I was no longer unstrung by the 'oppressive and mysterious' country we are being encouraged to fear. Langan gave us a greater understanding of the collective, though disparate, Afghanistan psyche and a balanced insight into the real lives of its people.
Sean Langan's programme was the most informative, conscientious and thought-provoking journalism I have seen in relation to the conflict so far. The man deserves an award of the highest order. The fact that the film was shot before the September 11th attacks only served to strengthen its impartial validity. My only complaint is that the documentary wasn't screened on BBC1 at a peak viewing time - but then, if we come to understand our "enemy" too well, we might not be so hasty in embracing them as our adversaries.
Witness their delight at Obama’s comedy routine at the Correspondent’s Dinner last week, when he poked fun at the pathetic Donald Trump, garnering big yocks from the Beltway elite – even as NATO missiles were killing three young grandchildren of Moamar Gadafy: more child sacrifices offered up on the altar of our modern Molochs. They didn't even notice.
Oh, they often shake their heads sadly or waggle their fingers sternly at some action or policy of Obama’s. They often can’t understand why he does these things – cut taxes for the rich, bail out the bankers, torture Bradley Manning, form commissions to gut Social Security, escalate and prolong the Terror War, kill hundreds of people with drone missiles, etc., etc. But nothing douses their fundamental (fundamentalist?) fervor to keep him in power and to scorn those who oppose him. Nothing keeps them from seeing themselves as his true and faithful "base," still waiting for him to return to them, despite his many betrayals. (Subconscious betrayals, no doubt.)
Luther Blissett wrote:This is all just driving more and more norms and regs into "conspiracy theory," further obfuscating real issues and clouding the ability to run a check on power.
Osama bin Laden death: photos suggest use of 'stealth' helicopters
Blackhawk wreckage reveals previously unseen modifications, seemingly to reduce radar visibility and muffle noise
Peter Walker guardian.co.uk, Thursday 5 May 2011 08.59 BST
Part of a damaged Blackhawk helicopter seen near the compound where US Navy Seals killed Osama bin Laden in Pakistan. Photograph: Stringer/Reuters
It is yet another question over the operation that killed Osama bin Laden: did the US Navy Seal team sneak up to his compound using previously top-secret "stealth" helicopters?
A number of military analysts believe photographs of the wreckage of one of the two Blackhawk helicopters used in the raid, which the Seals blew up after it was damaged, show hitherto unknown modifications to the aircraft, seemingly to reduce its radar visibility and muffle noise.
One former US special operations air expert told the Army Times that the distinctive hard-angled shape of the destroyed Blackhawk resembled the fuselage of the F-117 Stealth Fighter, which is designed to deflect radar. "It really didn't look like a traditional Black Hawk," he told the US forces' newspaper.
The US did not warn Pakistan about the raid for fear of leaks, but the helicopters nonetheless managed to fly to the compound from their base in Afghanistan without Pakistan's military seemingly being alerted.
Other photos appeared to show a circular cover over the helicopter's tail rotor, which experts said could be intended to dampen noise, making it harder for people on the ground to anticipate the aircraft's arrival. Some of those living near the compound said they did not hear the helicopters until they were almost directly overhead.
The military team that killed the al-Qaida leader arrived in two helicopters described officially only as Blackhawks, the Sikorsky-made US military's workhorse helicopter for the past 30 years. One was damaged as it landed heavily at Bin Laden's compound, reportedly after its rotor clipped a wall, and the Seals destroyed it with explosives before departing in the other helicopter.
Stealth aircraft canopies are covered in a radar-deflecting coating and it was "very plausible" that this could have made the Blackhawks harder to fly at night, perhaps causing the crash, the ex-special operations expert told the Army Times.
The US military has previously experimented with stealth helicopters, notably an adapted version of the Comanche reconnaissance aircraft. However none have previously been seen on active service. The Pentagon has refused to comment on questions about the Blackhawks used in the Bin Laden raid.
Dan Goure, a former Pentagon official now with the Lexington Institute thinktank, told ABC News: "This is a first. You wouldn't know that it was coming right at you. And that's what's important, because these are coming in fast and low, and if they aren't sounding like they're coming right at you, you might not even react until it's too late ... That was clearly part of the success."
Bruce Dazzling wrote:Has anyone seen or heard any reports that anyone at Che Bin Laden had any weapons whatsoever? I mean, other than the visiting Navy Seals, of course.
This seems to be a pretty important question since the company line is that this was a "legally justified" killing.
Bursting into a house and shooting a bunch of the dwellers, one of them in the head, would seem to be more than a bit drastic considering the only justification I've seen so far is that "he indicated that he would not be taken alive," and that "he had made no attempt to surrender."
He made no attempt to surrender? What the fuck does that even mean, anyway? Does it mean that he didn't put his hands in the air? Oh dear, better blow off the top of his head even though if we capture him he could (supposedly) give us TONS of valuable information.
Yeah, THAT makes perfect sense...
One Dog Watching wrote:8bitagent wrote:
I always think of how the spirit of the 60's and 70's anti war movement is nowhere to be found in today's college youth; partly because of technology distractions but also perhaps the lack of a draft
This is the programmed-since-birth generation. Notice in the article I posted a few pages back, a scene is described where Millennials leap to their feet during class at the news of Bin Laden's death, throw down their books and run off to the grassy lawn of the WH to celebrate. Make no mistake…they didn't do all that because they've been waiting on pins and needles for this day…they did it because it's what's happening NOW. They have to be "RIGHT NOW" or they are nothing. It doesn't matter what it is that's happening, it just has to be NOW and it has to be what everyone else is doing. It's the cost of being "constantly connected".
and the quote:
Since the news of bin Laden's death has sunk in, the celebrating has wound down but a sense of hope prevails, which author and historian Neil Howe says is a very Millennial take on life.
He likens the news of bin Laden's death to that of the villain in the popular Harry Potter books.
"It's like Voldemort is dead," Howe says. "It's a Harry Potter world. For this generation, there's either pure evil or pure good. There's no anti-hero. They're out to get rid of these terrible forces and have a celebration. A happy ending. This is very defining for their generation. They've supplied the young troops who've been over there fighting for their lives."
This guy Howe has been cheerleading this generation in such a manner for over a decade. He wrote the book on them, "Millennials Rising", and he really seems to love talking about them. He's usually included in all articles about them, and he's usually saying they are the future of this or that, or simply, "Millennials are like this: (fill in the blank with whatever he needs to them to be)", as he did with the ludicrous Harry Potter comparison above. They outnumber the baby boomers 2 to 1, I believe, so whatever he says they are at any given point, it's whatever is most needed to prop up the currently running Official Narrative.
The "most connected generation" is also the one most likely to take the ball and run with it when the MSM, through those connections, tells them that A is true and B is false. You would think there would be tons of them with burning questions and conspiracy theories galore…but no, "My app says otherwise, dude." Most of them think this kind of stuff is ridiculous, from my experience.
Usually youth is associated with rebellion and questioning. I think this generation was so sufficiently terrorized/imprinted at such an early age with 9/11, they're fine with whatever the PTB decide.
Ben D wrote:norton ash wrote:Obama
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Anticipating drama from the Dalai Lama.
There you go....Tibet's spiritual leader the Dalai Lama suggested that killing of Osama bin Laden by US was justified, a report said Wednesday, although his office sought to clarify the remarks.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20110504/ts_alt_afp/usattacksbinladendalailamatibet
Byrne wrote:What is with the 'downed US helicopter'?
Nordic wrote:Here's a classic example of the united front from the "liberal" wing of the corporate media:
No, Sarah Palin, Obama won't release OBL photos
"Proof" won't silence the right-wing nut-jobs who make up Palin's base.
Yes, if you want to see proof of Osama's death, you're a right-wing Palin-loving nutjob.
How shameful for any good liberal!
Even Jon Stewart and Rachel Maddow were making that VERY clear last night on The Daily Show. There WILL BE LOCKSTEP ORDER among the liberal crowd!
http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/joan_ ... index.html
eyeno wrote:There is the possibility that the story was made this muddy on purpose. By making it this muddy no matter what comes out later all the confusing portions of the story will be included and woven in, making the story forever muddy.
I also saw a blurb on mainstream today that said basically, "security will be heightened at malls, sporting events, public places. Some of this will be temporary and some permanent. Since domestic terrorism is now such a threat the administration has decided to begin arresting people of interest on other charges even if the violations are not related to terrorism in an effort to simply get them off the street". The heightened security part is a standard line, but the "getting people off the street with any charge they can find" is a ramp up. They have of course probably already been doing it but actually saying so on mainstream television is something they usually do not say. Doesn't sound too good.
tazmic wrote:High-strength marijuana plants have been found just yards from the luxury home of slain terror chief Osama Bin Laden.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1383429/Osama-Bin-Laden-dead-Marijuana-grew-near-luxury-compound-Abbottabad.htmlGone to pot: Bin Laden had in recent years suffered from kidney problems - could marijuana have been used by the war lord to relieve the symptoms of his illness?
Doesn't look as if these helicraft would fit anyone in them!
DoYouEverWonder wrote:Doesn't look as if these helicraft would fit anyone in them!
I was noticing that. The darn thing looks like a paper mache toy. The passenger compartment is certainly not big enough for even one full grown adult. What a joke, yet they know millions of idiots will believe them because they saw a picture of it.
DoYouEverWonder wrote:Doesn't look as if these helicraft would fit anyone in them!
I was noticing that. The darn thing looks like a paper mache toy. The passenger compartment is certainly not big enough for even one full grown adult. What a joke, yet they know millions of idiots will believe them because they saw a picture of it.
82_28 wrote:Yup. Left wing conspiracy realists are on their own.
Why simply do not people detect the bullshit?
Stephen Morgan wrote:http://www.cracked.com/article_18748_6-brutal-leaders-their-ridiculous-secret-hobbies.html
Osama Bin Laden hates America. He hates everything about it: The sacrilegious freedoms we enjoy, our arrogant politics, the way America snorts when it laughs. You know this already; you've probably seen his Vlogs. He just hates America so fucking much, he loathes every fiber of its black, accursed soul... well, except for volleyball. That shit's awesome.
We're not making this up; stories of Bin Laden's volleyball prowess come from insiders like his former bodyguard, Nasser al-Bahri.
So why is America's number one enemy also the number one fan of the homoerotic near-orgy from Top Gun? Maybe his love for volleyball is the one exception that proves the rule, or maybe it's actually the cause for his hatred; a bitter jealousy at all of our immaculate beaches and regulation nets coming from a dude stuck in a low-ceilinged cave using old clotheslines. Or perhaps, just perhaps, the 6'4 Arab guy in a country where rural villagers think fun is forbidden by God is predisposed to dominate the crap out of that sport.
You might say he's "built for the game."
Oh, and throw in the fact that Mohammed Atef, the former chief of Al-Qaeda, also used to be a star volleyball player, but wasn't allowed to play on the same team as Osama because they were just that good, and we think the United States' next move is clear: Stage a fake volleyball competition, and arrest the unnaturally skilled giant with the fake beard (over his regular beard).
Hey, it worked for Robin Hood.
Bruce Dazzling wrote:Euphemism of the day:Precision clearing operation
Would be funny if Bin Laden becomes an iconic symbol for pot heads.
8bitagent wrote:Well the Dalai Lama also said the war on terror justified and that Bush is a good guy, very unfortunate.
Stephen Morgan wrote:8bitagent wrote:Well the Dalai Lama also said the war on terror justified and that Bush is a good guy, very unfortunate.
Well he did used to be a brutal dictator of a third world nation who kept slavery legal and presided over the mutilation of minor criminals and the kidnapping of youths into his monasteries. I think pre-Chinese Dalai Lama is pretty much George Bush II's ambition.
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