Trayvon Martin

[MinM]

so if there was jury tampering or juror misconduct, can the trial be thrown out and re-run?

@MJayRosenberg: THIS should enable DOJ to start action to overturn Zimmerman verdict. http://blogs.orlandoweekly.com/index.ph ... rman-jury/ …

[seemslikeadream]

[Wombaticus Rex]

It is unfortunate indeed that a Obamadmin DOJ effort to get involved with this will only lead to negative second-order effects. I cannot think of a better way to prolong (and escalate) the rancor and rhetoric on race in America.

[ShinShinKid]

[seemslikeadream]

sure looks like kick back to me ...wounds line up don't cha think?

prosecutor threw the case...with a little help from the jury

[American Dream]

http://www.justseeds.org/blog/2013/07/w ... .html#more

[seemslikeadream]

It is unfortunate indeed that a Obamadmin DOJ effort to get involved with this will only lead to negative second-order effects. I cannot think of a better way to prolong (and escalate) the rancor and rhetoric on race in America.

yea let's just let that open season on black kids continue

[Wombaticus Rex]

Chill with the binary thinking.

There's currently about a dozen other cases that DOJ could take up right now, many of them have been referenced in this thread already.

It's not like the only other option is "nothing," here.

[seemslikeadream]

Chill with the binary thinking.

There's currently about a dozen other cases that DOJ could take up right now, many of them have been referenced in this thread already.

It's not like the only other option is "nothing," here.

It is unfortunate indeed that a Obamadmin DOJ effort to get involved with this will only lead to negative second-order effects. I cannot think of a better way to prolong (and escalate) the rancor and rhetoric on race in America.

sounds a bit binary to me

[stevie ray]

this thread makes me want to puke

[American Dream]

You Mad Yet? On the Murder of Trayvon Martin and the Question of Tipping Points

July 16, 2013 by Mia McKenzie

On Saturday, George Zimmerman was acquitted of all charges in the murder of Trayvon Martin. Or, put another way, white supremacy allowed a man to stalk and murder an unarmed black teenager and walk away. If you don't understand how and why this case was about race, which, I believe, requires only the barest minimum of understanding about the world we live in, then this piece is not for you. I'm not the least bit interested in explaining something so incredibly obvious. If you insist on pretending that none of this is about race, please just excuse yourself from this conversation. You don't deserve to sit at the grown-ups' table.

If you're still reading, I'll assume you don't have your head up your ass and that the role of race in this case is clear to you. Great. Now, since we're all on the same page, my only question is:

Are we mad enough yet?

Because here's the thing: the system didn't fail. The system did precisely what it was designed to do. This is the way it has always worked. The way it worked for Emmett Till 60 years ago, for Rekia Boyd 16 months ago, and for the countless unarmed black and brown people killed by white supremacy before, in between, and after them. This country was built on the dehumanization of people of color--the genocide of the Native American, the enslavement and mass murder of the African. This is what we do. So, the question isn't why. The question isn't how, in 2013, this is still possible. The question is, simply, are we mad enough yet? And if so, what are we prepared to do about it?



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http://blackgirldangerous.org/new-blog/ ... von-martin

[Searcher08]

The Purpose Of a System Is What It Does, (often shortened to POSIWID) is a systems thinking heuristic coined by Stafford Beer.
Origins of term

Stafford Beer coined the term POSIWID and used it many times in public addresses. Perhaps most forcefully in his address to the University of Valladolid, Spain, in October 2001, he said "According to the cybernetician, the purpose of a system is what it does. This is a basic dictum. It stands for bald fact, which makes a better starting point in seeking understanding than the familiar attributions of good intention, prejudices about expectations, moral judgment, or sheer ignorance of circumstances."[1]

W. L. Livingston, P.E. made extensive use of the term POSIWID in his book Have Fun at Work published in 1988. ISBN 0937063053.
Uses of term

The term is now widely used by systems theorists. It is generally invoked to counter the notion that the purpose of a system can be read from the intentions of those who design, operate, or promote it. From a cybernetic perspective complex systems are not controllable by simple notions of management, and interventions in a system can best be understood by looking at how they affect observed system behavior. When "side effects" or "unintended consequences" reveal that system behavior is poorly understood then taking the POSIWID perspective allows the more political understandings of system behavior to be balanced by a more straightforwardly descriptive view.

The term is used in many fields including biology[2] and business management.[3]
Other Links/ References

The proof of the pudding is in the eating

^ Beer, Stafford (2002). "What is cybernetics?". Kybernetes (MCB UP Ltd) 31 (2): 209–219. doi:10.1108/03684920210417283. Retrieved 2008-08-24.
^ Boogerd, Fred (2007). Systems Biology. Amsterdam: Elsevier Science. ISBN 0-444-52085-6.
^ Ward, Aidan; Smith, John (2003). Trust and Mistrust : Radical Risk Strategies in Business Relationships. John Wiley & Sons. ISBN 978-0-470-85318-4

[stevie ray]

so the purpose of the system is to make me nauseous

[Wombaticus Rex]

so the purpose of the system is to make me nauseous

Yes.



Further readingses: viewtopic.php?f=8&t=36716

[JackRiddler]

It is unfortunate indeed that a Obamadmin DOJ effort to get involved with this will only lead to negative second-order effects. I cannot think of a better way to prolong (and escalate) the rancor and rhetoric on race in America.

It's too bad about "the rancor and rhetoric" -- but not really, it's time for escalation. I see it as people starting to fight back. All you should ask is, what is the right thing?