DC Madam possibly commits suicide in Tarpon Springs

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Another 'take' on the case--from a MSM source

Postby pepsified thinker » Mon May 05, 2008 3:59 pm

Seems the 'message' sent by the trial is--if you're a prostitute, don't EVER stand-up for yourself--we'll ruin you, or if you're the madam, we'll go after you AND all of your 'employees' and grind you down to a miserable pulp.

But I'm also wondering what making the prosecutors into mean/nasty villans does for the dnamics of this 'story'.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/04/10/AR2008041003486_pf.html

The D.C. Madam Case, All Sordid Out
By Dana Milbank
Friday, April 11, 2008; A03

The alleged D.C. Madam once threatened the likes of a United States senator, a deputy secretary of state, and the man who created the war doctrine of "shock and awe." But the Madam's criminal trial this week has turned out to be less shock and awe than shock and ewww.

Sen. David Vitter of Louisiana and other powerful men appear likely to get a pass. Less lucky: the 15 terrified women being hauled by prosecutors into court to recount in graphic detail their past work as prostitutes -- and more than 100 other former prostitutes whose names prosecutors are trying to make public.

Wednesday, prosecutors forced a 63-year-old retired PhD -- her name, like those of other witnesses, now a matter of public record -- to testify about inducing orgasms in her client; the government's lawyers had similar questions for a mother of three who worked briefly for the escort service nearly 15 years ago.

Yesterday, it was the turn of a young naval officer to take the stand; the case will almost certainly end her career. The prosecutor, Daniel Butler, had the woman spell her name slowly and clearly, then had her talk about when she was "aggressive" with a client, when she was "more submissive," when she had a difficult client ("he tried to remove the condom") and how often she got "intimate."

"What do you mean by 'intimate'? "

The soon-to-be-former naval officer looked at him in disbelief. "Touching, caressing," she explained.

"What happened" after that? he demanded.

"Sex."

"What type of sex?"

"Sometimes it was oral sex; usually it was normal."

"Normal?" Butler persisted.

"I'm not sure what you're getting at," the stricken witness pleaded.

"What's normal sex?" Butler again demanded.

Judge James Robertson intervened. "He wants to know if you mean intercourse."

Butler pressed on with more humiliating questions until the judge cut him off. "That's enough," Robertson said. Minutes later, the dazed woman was helped out of the room.

From the audience, it appears that prosecutors have presented a solid case that the alleged Madam, Deborah Jeane Palfrey, did indeed run a prostitution ring. A better question, however, is why they bothered. Prosecutors say the prostitution ring generated all of $2 million over 13 years -- small potatoes for a federal racketeering and money-laundering case that could ruin the lives of 132 women.

It's a question that evidently has occurred to the judge. Yesterday, prosecutors unpacked eight binders full of money-order receipts that reveal the identity of most, if not all, of the Madam's escorts. "You want to make public the names of all the employees?" Robertson asked prosecutor Catherine Connelly. "Is there no limit to the collateral damage?"

Evidently not. Connelly said the names had to be released. "Unfortunately."

It's particularly unfortunate when considering what the former escorts earned for this public disgrace: $130 for their 90-minute "calls." Add in travel time, and these sex workers toiled for perhaps $40 an hour.

Yet prosecutors act as if they've caught a major organized crime figure. An IRS agent yesterday showed the jury photos of her home -- a mop and cornflakes box in evidence -- and recited Palfrey's sewer bill, electricity payment, car maintenance and check to Office Depot. One juror's eyes closed, and her head dropped. Others yawned. "I'm not sure why the jury needs to see any of this," the judge pointed out. "Waste of time."

The same might be said of the rest of the case.

Wednesday, Connelly was grilling the 63-year-old former escort. "Did you specifically discuss what happened when you went in the shower?" the prosecutor wanted to know.

The witness explained, "I was having sex."

"What would happen if you were menstruating?" Connelly asked.

The prosecutors also asked the women how many calls they went on and how many resulted in sex. Kristen testified that she had sex on 80 percent of her calls. For Mary, it was 75 to 80 percent. "I'm referring to both intercourse and oral sex," a prosecutor clarified. "Does that change your number?"

Understandably, the women were in a wretched state as they took the stand. A young former escort on Wednesday broke down in tears; the court clerk handed her a box of tissues. The defense lawyer, Preston Burton, noticed how miserable another witness looked. "You're not particularly happy to be here," he observed kindly.

"Who would be?" she answered.

Yesterday, the naval officer struggled to compose herself as she entered the room. The prosecutor suggested a glass of water. "Move a little closer to that microphone, please," coaxed the judge. "Take two deep breaths and relax. Everything's going to be okay."

Soothing words, but not exactly true. The Navy has put the Madam's former employee on leave.

Staff writer Paul Duggan contributed to this column.
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About Preston Burton

Postby pepsified thinker » Mon May 05, 2008 4:04 pm

...and this is old, but it gives a certain MSM perspective on Burton's involvement (the link to it was in the previous article).

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/05/07/AR2007050700441_pf.html

Judge Appoints New Lawyer for Alleged Madam
Attorney's Clients Include Lewinsky, 3 Major Spies

By Carol D. Leonnig
Washington Post Staff Writer
Tuesday, May 8, 2007; B02

The woman accused of being the D.C. madam has a new attorney, appointed yesterday by a federal judge.

Preston Burton, a partner in the Washington office of Orrick, Herrington & Sutcliffe, will represent Deborah Jeane Palfrey against charges that she ran an illegal D.C. prostitution ring in Washington under the guise of an escort business.

Burton was named by Washingtonian magazine in 2004 as one of the capital's leading criminal defense attorneys. Palfrey joins a long list of notable clients who have turned to Burton to defend them. He represented White House intern Monica S. Lewinsky and spies such as CIA agent Aldrich H. Ames, former FBI agent Robert P. Hanssen and former Defense Intelligence Agency analyst Ana Belen Montes.

Burton takes the reins as the case's legal strategy is becoming increasingly controversial. Critics say Palfrey has mounted a media blitz and is building her defense around the intimidation of potential prosecution witnesses -- clients who fear she will name them publicly.

"I'm taking steps to get up to speed as quickly as possible," said Burton, who will appear at a hearing May 21. "The case has certainly gotten a lot of attention. But I just don't think it's appropriate to comment at this time."

Palfrey said she and her civil attorney, Montgomery Blair Sibley, turned over her business telephone records to ABC News because she needs help locating her clients. She wants them to testify that her escorts provided erotic fantasy and massage, which is legal, but not sex, which is illegal.

Palfrey said she is indigent after prosecutors seized most of her assets, and the court agreed to appoint a defense attorney. But Palfrey and public defender A.J. Kramer sparred over the defense strategy, and she asked for another lawyer to be appointed.

U.S. District Judge Gladys Kessler said she does not recognize Sibley, a controversial and flamboyant figure in the civil case Palfrey has filed against former escorts, as a legal party in Palfrey's criminal defense. Last week, the judge barred him from entering the well of the court to sit with his client.


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Postby 8bitagent » Mon May 05, 2008 5:02 pm

DC Madam suicide notes short, claimed she'd be in prison for 8 years and come out penniless...this doesnt make sense given everyone agreed shed serve no more than 2-3 years in a Martha Stewart like posh scenario, and come out a millionare on movie/tv/book/appearence deals and a hero
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/ma ... _notes.htm

Apparently there's a deep state 9/11 connection to the DC Madam case
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/ma ... ection.htm

More evidence this may have been a hit
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/ma ... idence.htm

I think Paul Watson, despite it being prisonplanet, hit it out of the park on all three articles
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Male military moral theater needs foils.

Postby Hugh Manatee Wins » Mon May 05, 2008 5:12 pm

Why harass and humiliate these women in such a bizarre way?
Male military authority culture is utterly discredited right now.

So it is of huge psy-ops value to portray women as moral lepers, as is always done for recruiting young men by trying to keep them unentangled in marriage.

Males need to be portrayed as morally superior at every possible chance to protect the social structures anchored on male dominance and values.

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Also, managing the media morality theater through this 2008 (s)election season to salvage the utterly discredited GOP - which is really the civilian front for the military-intellegence complex - is going to be tricky enough without leaving any wild cards around to interfere with news cycle management and confuse things.

This determines who gets portrayed as the bad guys and who just gets written out of the script.
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the method

Postby hava1 » Tue May 06, 2008 1:04 am

I am a bit surprised at the discussion about Palfrey, since I presented a similar case and situation a while back, and was subjected here to the same drill by people here. If people on this board had the opportunity to discreetly get the info from said "prostitututes" to know who was doing what, they'd do that, and get rid of HER. Because, simply, these rings were serving blackmailing/bribe ops by the right wing, and some of the secrets would embarass the left (dems). And so, people here as well would assign the "guilt" on the sex slaves OR would want the info to get control over the dirty secrets and "reverse the blackmail" so to speak. But the girls are assigned the "guilt" and association to the culprits, OR they are simply disregarded as human beings. They would be considered "soldiers" of the bad guys.

THe Maryland professor who committed suicide briton something appears to have been under coercion to practice prostitutions BTW, and she would be a good sex slave because she has no "stomach" to face the scandal. I think that the "method" was so successful there were just numerous women, in various contexes, being used all over DC. The "upscale" education etc. is useful in attracting big wigs BUT also in making sure the lady will self annihilate and be easy to control.

"The opposition", ahem, people like one sees on this board, are perhaps "enlightened" but not too much, not to see that prostitution is plain slavery and the client is the criminal (and surely the pimp). So they will protect the clients , usually, from their camp, rather than see the entier picture. Surely, if the Bush camp is the power behind these practices, its targets will mostly be "your people" (his opponents). So there comes the perfect crime.

The Israelis, I think, entered some professional nieche with the DC half coerced prostitution game, that's why you see here and there pimps and victims from Israel. BUt you all tend to assign them with the guilt, so the masters in power are happy and protected so far.


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I was exchanging emails with a board member here, about a maybe case I had in Belgium 26 yrs ago, where I suspect I was trafficked under some form of coercion. Since I am Israeli, she called me an Israeli soldier. Namely, one is tempted to assign the guilt of the slave master to his most obvious victim. this is a serious drawback which is real, (namely, having a selective conscience), and so the results of losing this battle are not "tactical". As long as prostitution in the USA is lawful, in terms of the client (unlike, say, in Sweden, where the client is criminalized , not the lady), the bad ones will reap the rewards of the system. As long as this is "common morale", the slaves also know, that once they are in the trap there is no way out, which gives them an incentive to be loyal to the masters. they are also told "if you tell nobody will believe you and if they do, they will blame YOU, you will be tarnished and improverished", which turns out to be true.

These women are in no position to fight back because the law is such that they are guily, and the public sees them as such, particularly the lefties for some reason, in north america.

ONce Ms. Palfrey realized that it doesnt matter what she says, it was clear that its the end for her. Because those who extracted the info, if there were such, are no better, they just want an upper hand on the "secrets" but to keep them secrets, because this gives THEM leverage now over higher ups.
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Postby sunny » Tue May 06, 2008 8:44 am

Link to suicide notes. They are dated 4/25.
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Postby nomo » Tue May 06, 2008 12:20 pm

http://www.salon.com/mwt/feature/2008/0 ... print.html
http://reversecowgirlblog.blogspot.com/ ... madam.html

Death and the D.C. Madam
Call girls speak out about the suicide of Deborah Jeane Palfrey and the complicated truths it reveals about their lives.

By Susannah Breslin

May. 05, 2008 | On May 1, Deborah Jeane Palfrey, better known as "the D.C. Madam," was found dead in a shed located behind her mother's Tarpon Springs, Fla., mobile home. Apparently, Palfrey, 52, hanged herself from a metal beam with a length of nylon rope. When her 76-year-old mother, Blanche Palfrey, called 911 just before 11 a.m., the emergency operator asked if her daughter was still hanging from the rafter. "Yes," said the madam's weeping mother, who had regularly accompanied her daughter to court the month previous, "I can't move her. I'm 76 years old."

Palfrey's was one of a recent spate of high-profile political sex scandals, from Idaho Sen. Larry Craig's toe-tapping routine to the fall of New York Gov. Eliot "Luv Guv" Spitzer. It was also another chapter in our ongoing fascination with prostitution -- that mysterious and yet still little-understood profession. (Palfrey entered the business as an escort. Later, she became a madam, claiming she was "appalled and disgusted" by the way women in the sex business were treated.) Sex may be everywhere these days -- heck, adult movie star Jenna Jameson's autobiography, "How to Make Love Like a Porn Star: A Cautionary Tale," was a New York Times bestseller -- but what life is really like inside the American sex trade remains a mystery. Mostly, Americans have been fed one of two myths about sex workers: the "Pretty Woman" story about a hooker with a heart of gold, or the Jezebel tale about a woman who leads moral men astray by virtue of her sexual wiles.

In more recent years, thanks to a growing number of call girls, strippers and other sex workers using blogs to tell their stories in their own words, we've seen a more complex and nuanced tale. And it's one we don't seem to be able to get enough of. HBO and Showtime are launching competing series focusing on working girls -- "Sex and the City" creator Darren Star is turning Tracy Quan's "Diary of a Manhattan Call Girl" (which began as a column on Salon) into a dramatic series for HBO, while Showtime will begin airing the U.K. series "Secret Diary of a Call Girl," based on the blog turned book by Belle de Jour, next month.

Though Palfrey's death is complicated, not to mention controversial, it does offer us some insight into the experience of sex industry workers, who bear the burden of a double life and the toll of secrecy. I contacted three women, currently chronicling online their past and present lives as sex workers, to speak to them about their reactions to Palfrey's harrowing tale and how sharing their own stories might keep them from a similar kind of darkness.

Melissa Gira is a San Francisco-based sex worker and Valleywag reporter who last year co-founded Bound, Not Gagged, a group blog written by and for sex workers, because of the Palfrey case. Tired of so-called experts speaking for sex workers in the mainstream media, Gira created the site as a forum where working women could express their opinions, reactions and frustrations. The day the blog launched, Gira found Palfrey's phone number, called her and spoke with her briefly about the project. "I was shocked she picked up the phone, she knew what a blog was, and she wasn't immediately distrustful," Gira says.

Upon hearing of Palfrey's death, Gira felt a jumble of emotions: confusion, anger, sadness. "Her story represented our story," she says.

Gira is angry about the way female sex workers are vilified when stories like these go public, while the men involved "go back to their job or they quietly leave." From among the 15,000 names in Palfrey's potent little black book, only three boldface names surfaced: Louisiana Sen. David Vitter, a married Republican and father of four who apologized for his "very serious sin" and kept his job; U.S. ambassador Randall L. Tobias, who as Bush's "AIDS czar" had publicly denounced prostitution and resigned after his outing; and Harlan K. Ullman, a retired Navy commander known for developing the shock-and-awe doctrine and who told Brian Ross of ABC News that he had gotten only massages from the women involved, not had sex with them, and stated that the experience was "like ordering pizza."

"If I was in her position I would have papered the walls of that shed with the sheets of my client list," says Gira.

Although Gira is frustrated by the media's relentless representation of sex workers as victims, she is also suspicious of the circumstances surrounding Palfrey's death. It has been a question circulating since: Did Palfrey actually kill herself? In fact, Palfrey had stated in numerous interviews with members of the press that she would rather commit suicide than return to prison. Washington, D.C., writer Dan Moldea, who got to know Palfrey while considering writing a book about her, told reporters that Palfrey had told him, "I am not going back to prison. I will commit suicide first." At the time of her death, she was awaiting her July 24 sentencing, and authorities in Florida have reported that several suicide notes were found at the scene. Either way, Gira says, Palfrey's death has had a "chilling effect" on at least some sex workers, who, now fearing for their own lives, are more reluctant than ever to reveal themselves.

Another sex worker I spoke with, who writes online about her call girl experiences but requested anonymity for this story, was pained by the news of Palfrey's death as well as the related older news of the death of University of Maryland professor turned call girl Brandy Britton, 43, who killed herself in January 2007 while awaiting trial on prostitution charges. Britton was a one-time employee of Palfrey's; after Britton was found hanging in her living room, Palfrey pronounced, ironically: "I guess I'm made of something that Brandy Britton wasn't made of."

The call girl I interviewed was struck by the emotional stories behind these public deaths. "The first thing I thought about was the incredible isolation that both of them probably felt," she said. "Because you're doing something that's perceived to be so morally wrong that you're immediately outside society, as a prostitute or a madam. You've got this secret life or a compartmentalized life, and then to be pushed out there and villainized -- I can only imagine the incredible isolation they must have felt."

As a sex worker, she went on, you live a "double life." A madam whom she worked for before she went freelance was intensely paranoid, "crazy," prone to anxious late-night phone calls. "It got to her. She would call me up and panic, thinking they were out to get her. It was the psychology of sex work, the fear of being outed."

When the call girl I spoke with worked at an agency, she says, she was kept isolated from other women. Then, when she started writing online about sex work, all that changed. "I know the moment I started blogging about it at length, I started connecting to other women online. It made a huge difference. I stopped feeling alone. I stopped feeling like I had to hide everything from anybody. It felt as though I had a connection to the outside world that I didn't have before." After all, sex work is not easy. "You have these very intimate connections, but you're totally disposable with clients. You're a ghost moving through their world."

Palfrey's story, she says, is "heartbreaking," but at its core, she believes, Palfrey's final act reveals more about America than the madam. "It's sort of unsurprising that somebody like Palfrey could feel driven to suicide -- because of the shame of being in the sex work world."

Bree Daniels, a former call girl who named herself after the prostitute who helps a private detective catch a call girl killer in the 1971 film "Klute," blogs at One Shady Lady about the three years she spent as an escort in New York and California. Or at least she blogged until recently. (Her boyfriend isn't crazy about her blogging in the present tense about her past life.) She launched her site after the Spitzer story broke because she was sick of the way sex work and sex workers were being depicted in the media. "I think I was feeling extremely angry at all the misinformation and the double standard that it's acceptable for boys who will be boys, but women who do this are basically like the devil's minions." Instead, she says, "I wanted people to understand more about the business from someone who had been in the business." Daniels worked in the corporate world before getting into escorting for the money. "I think there's a misconception that women in the business are all sexually louche, and that we're damaged. When I started I'd had sex with eight people." In high school, she could have been voted least likely to become a call girl. "Most people always said I looked like a librarian."

When Palfrey was indicted, Daniels wrote her a letter. "I wrote to her when it all broke out last year, just saying if you hadn't made a copy of your records, you should leave them with everyone you know, just in case." The dangers inherent to sex work are very real, Daniels underscores. "You can lull yourself into a false sense of security, and then when something happens, you realize that you're totally expendable, that nobody cares. You feel so powerless. And I think a lot of women just choose not to think about it -- because it's the only way that you can get through it and do the job." In the beginning of her escort career, before setting out on her own, Daniels worked for a madam. "I came to two realizations," she says about that experience. "I could do what she was doing myself and keep all the money. And the second thing was if I turned up dead, she would be calling up her Mafia buddies to have my body dumped in Jersey. She didn't care about me."

Madams -- who are, essentially, female pimps -- can be "the most mercenary individuals on the planet," she says. She adds, however, "Not all of them are that way."

In the end, Daniels quit the business because she was "burned out." Sometimes, she misses the camaraderie among the women she worked with in the sex business. "They say there's no honor among thieves, but there's a lot of honor among these women. And that to me is the best thing that I take away from all this."

Melissa Gira, for one, is optimistic that one day Americans will see sex work as real work and sex workers as real people. After all, she says of Palfrey's death: "I don't think this was a suicide of concession. If anything, it's 'You're not going to take me alive.'"

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Postby Fat Lady Singing » Wed May 07, 2008 12:36 pm

sunny wrote:Link to suicide notes. They are dated 4/25.


Why on earth would one date a suicide note? Much less date it five days prior to the suicide?
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46 lbs. of phone (etc.?) records

Postby pepsified thinker » Wed May 07, 2008 3:37 pm

I don't meant to shift away from the topic of how women involved in sex work view their work and how society treats them, but I ran across this, with its reference to how much--and 46 lbs. seems like a lot of pages and the sample at the site shows a lot of phone numbers per page--Palfrey had in the way of records, after raising the question earlier, so here it is:

(from Slate--link follows; emphasis added)


Deborah Jeanne Palfrey is currently the subject of a criminal indictment alleging prostitution. Between 1993 and 2006 she ran an escort service in the District of Columbia. According to Palfrey, "contractors" to her firm, Pamela Martin & Associates, agreed in writing to refrain from sexual acts "prohibited by law." Palfrey even sued one such contractor for $75,000 because she "breached her contract" by engaging in illegal sexual activities while on the job. Imagine that!
When her legal troubles began, Palfrey hoped her powerful and influential johns—ahem, customers—would step forward to confirm that Palfrey's contractors did not provide sex for money. No one did. Then Palfrey threatened to sell her phone records, which would allow anyone with a reverse phone directory to identify the people she spoke to on a regular basis, most of whom were likely clients. The court stopped her. Finally Palfrey turned over free of charge to ABC News correspondent Brian Ross (who late last year broke the congressional-page story that prompted the resignation of Rep. Mark Foley, R.-Fla.) 46 pounds of phone records. Late last month Ross and his producers identified one of Palfrey's clients as Randall Tobias, who as deputy secretary of state ran U.S. foreign aid programs (and, ironically, was the Bush administration's leading advocate for abstinence-oriented programs abroad). Tobias promptly resigned, claiming he'd received "no sex" and that he had merely called Palfrey's service "to have gals come over to the condo to give me a massage."
ABC has the most recent phone records, but Palfrey has thoughfully posted online a sample page from her August 1996 Sprint long-distance bill. Recognize any of these phone numbers?


http://www.slate.com/id/2165405/

--but I'd like a follow-up question: looking at Wikipedia, she DID post her records on-line, AND there are 54 CD-roms of them out there somewhere.

I remember the site where they were posted having been swamped into being REALLY slow to load--if, in fact, it loaded at all.

Did anyone try it? Get through to it? Know what it was so we could try a cached version?

Here's the relevant part of the Wikipedia entry:

On July 9, 2007, Palfrey released the supposed entirety of her phone records for public viewing and downloading on the Internet in TIFF format, though days prior to this, her civil attorney Montgomery Blair Sibley had dispatched 54 CD-ROM copies to researchers, activists, and journalists.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deborah_Jeane_Palfrey
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Postby pepsified thinker » Wed May 07, 2008 5:13 pm

Had to leave for a mtg., but having now checked (checked some, that is--better web-digging might turn-up more; please try!), here's what's left of her on-line posting of those phone lists:

This site lets you search to see if a phone number is on her list. You don't get access to the raw lists, so you can't go from phone numbers to people--you have to start with a known phone number. BUT that site says it will be shutting down soon because, without Palfrey to give an explanation (be held accountable?) for numbers on the list, the site's sponsor(s) don't feel comfortable posting her old records. (Isn't just wonderfully considerate of them? VERY thoughtful, eh?)

http://www.dcphonelist.com/

palfrey had a site too, but it's dead:

http://deborahjeanepalfrey.com/

I haven't tried for cached versions yet, and haven't explored all sites listed by google for this topic.
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Postby Avalon » Wed May 07, 2008 5:21 pm

Remember that people can have pages removed from the Google cache or Wayback Machine if they ask.

Always good to make your hard copies and downloaded copies of crucial web pages before you publicly announce that something is on a page that some people might prefer to have disappear. ;)
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Postby pepsified thinker » Wed May 07, 2008 7:49 pm

I found 'em Alex Jones' site: http://www.infowars.com/?p=1863

BUT when I click on the link there, it shows the records but with a URL that suggests (to my very limited understanding of such things) that they're coming from another site. AND, that site--has a page with a news story about the numbers being released, that comes up in the first page of google results--but no listing of the page with the actual numbers.

At least I think that's what I'm seeing.

(gotta go help with homework, so that's all for now)

[on edit: to clarify, you can find the phone records, eventually, but if you google for them, there are a LOT of dead ends, and it seems like the one site that has them doesn't pop up in that google search, in a useful way--you get an page from that site, but not the page that allows access to the files.]
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NOW DEAD: Agent Carnaby, D.C. Madam and Michael Corbin

Postby cortez » Thu May 08, 2008 2:16 am

from Mkane at GNN

http://mkane.gnn.tv/blogs/28154/NOW_DEA ... ael_Corbin

The saga of the D.C. Madam is strange and twisted. It is not just her list of customers that is important, but her websites were run by ISP’s with links to online Euro-kiddie porn.

Sex-slavery and pedophilia are big components of black-ops; bigger than most realize.

The brilliant Indira Singh has popped her head back up from behind the scenes as of late to bring us some stunning information that shows how the D.C. Madam’s websites were linked to Eastern-Euro pedophilia sites through a company that was owned by a high priest Mormon who speaks Russian, German, and other Eastern-Euro languages.

Go here for sourcing.

The D.C. Madam is now dead.

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Indi is now back on the blog-scene after radio host Michael Corbin suddenly died alone on the side of the road in his car. Michael and Indi were close (and if you click on the above source and read it, you will see the explosive D.C. Madam info was uncovered by Indi and shared with Michael via email). She has pulled up some info that shows a possibility of foul play in Michael’s death.

No one is interested.

Not even the usual suspects – Rense, Jones, et al. – have even mentioned Michael’s death. Kind-a-weird. These are the guys who can find conspiracies everywhere, but choose to be dead silent about the strange death of a white male radio host who reports on the same government corruption issues that they (seem to) do. (File that under the “things that make you go hmmmmm” section of your long-term memory).

Michael’s work was not flawless, but much of it was critical. Turns out his encrypted hard drive was/is filled with TONS of critical investigative documents. He was trusted by many researchers who sent him lots of “just in case” files.

Corbin is now dead.

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Add into all this drama self-proclaimed (and probable) CIA Agent Roland Carnaby. It’s difficult for me to discuss what transpired with Agent Carnaby. The CIA is denying that Carnaby was an agent at all. He was shot by Houston police after a high-speed car chase. The cops claim they didn’t believe Carnaby was showing real CIA ID when he was pulled over and they said he looked “nervous.”

Here are two stories on Carnaby;

One here (mainstream)
One here (alternative)

One of these reports is mainstream, one is alternative (scroll down after clicking the alternative link to read the May 2nd report). The alternative report links Carnaby to the D.C. Madam. The mainstream report ends with the following paragraph:

(Carnaby’s) Pearland home contains several photos of him taken with local dignitaries, including former U.S. Secretary of State James A. Baker III and Houston Police Chief Harold Hurtt. Both insist they do not know him.

Carnaby is now dead.

***

Indira – watch yourself. You are a brilliant woman who has poked your nose in all the “wrong” places. I care about you and wish you well. It is very possible that you are the best investigator working today – intelligence, morality, intuition, quick learning-curve… you’ve got it all. I learned a lot while working for FTW in these regards and it is clear to me that you have far surpassed my knowledge.

I know for certain Indi is not suicidal. She was “safe” while she was quiet, but the death of her friend has caused her to speak up once again and she may not be safe now. May god watch over you Indira. I admire your courage immensely.

peace eternal
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Postby Avalon » Thu May 08, 2008 7:40 am

The links in Kane's article that didn't transfer over:

The brilliant Indira Singh has popped her head back up from behind the scenes as of late to bring us some stunning information that shows how the D.C. Madam’s websites were linked to Eastern-Euro pedophilia sites through a company that was owned by a high priest Mormon who speaks Russian, German, and other Eastern-Euro languages.

Go here for sourcing.


http://rememberingmichael.wordpress.com/1000-emails/

Here are two stories on Carnaby;

One here (mainstream)


http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/hot ... 48085.html

One here (alternative)

http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index1096.htm

I'd want to know more about the "Eastern-Euro pedophilia sites" statement. How does this compare with the number of other porn websites that link to them? Does he mean that it would be unusual for a sex website to link to those kind of sites? The 1000 Emails site is having formatting problems (probably a too-long link?) and thus you have to scroll like crazy to try to read it.
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Postby Searcher08 » Thu May 08, 2008 9:40 am

Whoa, Avalon!!! :shock:

I didn't realise that Indira had been investigating this -
that link on Corbin's memorial blog is brilliant - I hadnt visited it since a few days after Michael's death (RIP)

I WONDERED whether there was something fishier going on than "Escort Services"
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