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Postby GM Citizen » Sun Jun 15, 2008 6:39 pm

unaltered wrote:
8bitagent wrote: and people who question 9/11 but think any questioning of Israeli linkage to 9/11 is "anti Semitic".


I don't think ANY questioning is antisemitic; just continued use of lame "facts," which can't pass the smell test and Jew counting which offers only arm chair detective work with no smoking gun other than a generalized antisemitic starting point that Israel MUST HAVE done it because Israelis were (gasp) IN NEW YORK----IN HOLLYWOOD FLA.----OWNED BUSINESSES----etc. And those who weren't Israelis were JEWS so they MUST be Mossad spies and Israeli agents of EVIL!!!!

Anyone who can't see the obvious antisemitism in this is ignorant or protests too much.


From one of my earlier postings in this thread: "On June 21, 2002, ABC reported that the FBI had concluded that the van's driver, Paul Kurzberg, and his brother Sivan, were indeed Mossad operatives".

GASP! Mossad in New York on 9/11! Quick....ANTI-SEMITE alert!!! ANTI-SEMITE alert!!!

One must be completely unaltered by logic, in order to dismiss the obvious conclusion that yes, there were Mossad in New York on 9/11, dancing on a van, watching the planes hit the towers. Oh, and apparently they had a camcorder along too. I cannot imagine what they were doing there at that time.

Unaltered, maybe they were mohels in search of a bris, if you say so.
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Postby unaltered » Sun Jun 15, 2008 6:43 pm

GM Citizen wrote:
unaltered wrote:
8bitagent wrote: and people who question 9/11 but think any questioning of Israeli linkage to 9/11 is "anti Semitic".


I don't think ANY questioning is antisemitic; just continued use of lame "facts," which can't pass the smell test and Jew counting which offers only arm chair detective work with no smoking gun other than a generalized antisemitic starting point that Israel MUST HAVE done it because Israelis were (gasp) IN NEW YORK----IN HOLLYWOOD FLA.----OWNED BUSINESSES----etc. And those who weren't Israelis were JEWS so they MUST be Mossad spies and Israeli agents of EVIL!!!!

Anyone who can't see the obvious antisemitism in this is ignorant or protests too much.


From one of my earlier postings in this thread: "On June 21, 2002, ABC reported that the FBI had concluded that the van's driver, Paul Kurzberg, and his brother Sivan, were indeed Mossad operatives".

GASP! Mossad in New York on 9/11! Quick....ANTI-SEMITE alert!!! ANTI-SEMITE alert!!!

One must be completely unaltered by logic, in order to dismiss the obvious conclusion that yes, there were Mossad in New York on 9/11, dancing on a van, watching the planes hit the towers. Oh, and apparently they had a camcorder along too. I cannot imagine what they were doing there at that time.

Unaltered, maybe they were mohels in search of a bris, if you say so.


And I'm supposed to believe YOU rather than an actual verifiable ABC link? lol
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Postby MacCruiskeen » Sun Jun 15, 2008 6:56 pm

Unaltered trolled:

And I'm supposed to believe YOU rather than an actual verifiable ABC link? lol


An actual verifiable ABC link said:

‘We Are Not Your Problem’

According to the police report, one of the passengers told the officers they had been on the West Side Highway in Manhattan "during the incident" — referring to the World Trade Center attack. The driver of the van, Sivan Kurzberg, told the officers, "We are Israeli. We are not your problem. Your problems are our problems. The Palestinians are the problem." The other passengers were his brother Paul Kurzberg, Yaron Shmuel, Oded Ellner and Omer Marmari.

When the men were transferred to jail, the case was transferred out of the FBI's Criminal Division, and into the bureau's Foreign Counterintelligence Section, which is responsible for espionage cases, ABCNEWS has learned.

One reason for the shift, sources told ABCNEWS, was that the FBI believed Urban Moving may have been providing cover for an Israeli intelligence operation.

http://web.archive.org/web/200208021943 ... 20621.html


You're a troll, unaltered. A timewasting troll.
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Postby cptmarginal » Sun Jun 15, 2008 6:58 pm

unaltered wrote:
GM Citizen wrote:
unaltered wrote:
8bitagent wrote: and people who question 9/11 but think any questioning of Israeli linkage to 9/11 is "anti Semitic".


I don't think ANY questioning is antisemitic; just continued use of lame "facts," which can't pass the smell test and Jew counting which offers only arm chair detective work with no smoking gun other than a generalized antisemitic starting point that Israel MUST HAVE done it because Israelis were (gasp) IN NEW YORK----IN HOLLYWOOD FLA.----OWNED BUSINESSES----etc. And those who weren't Israelis were JEWS so they MUST be Mossad spies and Israeli agents of EVIL!!!!

Anyone who can't see the obvious antisemitism in this is ignorant or protests too much.


From one of my earlier postings in this thread: "On June 21, 2002, ABC reported that the FBI had concluded that the van's driver, Paul Kurzberg, and his brother Sivan, were indeed Mossad operatives".

GASP! Mossad in New York on 9/11! Quick....ANTI-SEMITE alert!!! ANTI-SEMITE alert!!!

One must be completely unaltered by logic, in order to dismiss the obvious conclusion that yes, there were Mossad in New York on 9/11, dancing on a van, watching the planes hit the towers. Oh, and apparently they had a camcorder along too. I cannot imagine what they were doing there at that time.

Unaltered, maybe they were mohels in search of a bris, if you say so.


And I'm supposed to believe YOU rather than an actual verifiable ABC link? lol


Having not read this thread, I do not know the content of your argument.

That being said, there's this great tool called Google that can help you find things:
link

*edit* oops, redundant
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Postby MacCruiskeen » Sun Jun 15, 2008 7:03 pm

That being said, there's this great tool called Google that can help you find things


Yup. That's why I call 'Unaltered' a timewasting troll. All he [it can only be a bloke] had to do was google "Paul Kurzberg" + "ABC". Instead:

And I'm supposed to believe YOU rather than an actual verifiable ABC link? lol


It is sheer buffoonery.
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Postby AlicetheKurious » Sun Jun 15, 2008 7:12 pm

unaltered wrote:

I don't think ANY questioning is antisemitic; just continued use of lame "facts," which can't pass the smell test...


A sincere question: what is this "smell test"?
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Postby MWB » Sun Jun 15, 2008 7:32 pm

unaltered wrote:
8bitagent wrote: and people who question 9/11 but think any questioning of Israeli linkage to 9/11 is "anti Semitic".


I don't think ANY questioning is antisemitic; just continued use of lame "facts," which can't pass the smell test and Jew counting which offers only arm chair detective work with no smoking gun other than a generalized antisemitic starting point that Israel MUST HAVE done it because Israelis were (gasp) IN NEW YORK----IN HOLLYWOOD FLA.----OWNED BUSINESSES----etc. And those who weren't Israelis were JEWS so they MUST be Mossad spies and Israeli agents of EVIL!!!!

Anyone who can't see the obvious antisemitism in this is ignorant or protests too much.


Could you explain to us these clips from FOX News.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=vIvbCDsMrSg

Is FOX News Anti-Semitic?

"Immediately after September 11'th, 60 Israelis have been detained"
"some detainees failed polygraph tests"
"Evidence linking these Israelis to 9/11 is classified"

etc etc.
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Postby unaltered » Sun Jun 15, 2008 7:44 pm

cptmarginal wrote:
Having not read this thread, I do not know the content of your argument.

That being said, there's this great tool called Google that can help you find things:
link

*edit* oops, redundant


The burden is on HIM to support his claim. Google all one wants and nowhere will you find verifiable proof that these two guys were indeed Mossad. You may find "suspicions," but you won't find proof. That's where his burden comes in. One that he and his party clown have failed miserably.

The most telling part of this story comes in here

Despite the denials, sources tell ABCNEWS there is still debate within the FBI over whether or not the young men were spies. Many U.S. government officials still believe that some of them were on a mission for Israeli intelligence. But the FBI told ABCNEWS, "To date, this investigation has not identified anybody who in this country had pre-knowledge of the events of 9/11."



This of course is where people get their "sources," from - those who disagree with the official line; one that was derived from

The five men were held in detention for more than two months. Some of them were placed in
solitary confinement for 40 days
, and some of them were given as many as
seven lie-detector tests.
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Postby GM Citizen » Sun Jun 15, 2008 7:55 pm

unaltered wrote:
cptmarginal wrote:
Having not read this thread, I do not know the content of your argument.

That being said, there's this great tool called Google that can help you find things:
link

*edit* oops, redundant


The burden is on HIM to support his claim. Google all one wants and nowhere will you find verifiable proof that these two guys were indeed Mossad. You may find "suspicions," but you won't find proof. That's where his burden comes in. One that he and his party clown have failed miserably.

The most telling part of this story comes in here

Despite the denials, sources tell ABCNEWS there is still debate within the FBI over whether or not the young men were spies. Many U.S. government officials still believe that some of them were on a mission for Israeli intelligence. But the FBI told ABCNEWS, "To date, this investigation has not identified anybody who in this country had pre-knowledge of the events of 9/11."



This of course is where people get their "sources," from - those who disagree with the official line; one that was derived from

The five men were held in detention for more than two months. Some of them were placed in
solitary confinement for 40 days
, and some of them were given as many as
seven lie-detector tests.


The burden of logic fell upon you when you stated that all of this stuff came from LaRouche, and those of his ilk. I pointed out some other stuff, asking if it too was from LaRouche, but you have been dancing around that faster than a Mossad agent on a van top.

Alice creamed you with facts. Mac called you out for what he thinks you are, and all you can do is sputter "anti-semites". It's really very pathetic.

But let's face facts here. Much like the hunter in the bear joke, whom we find isn't actually there for the hunting, you really don't come here for the factual debate do you? Never mind...rhetorical question.

No link is good enough for you...noooo....unless a person was actually standing on top of the van, with the 5 Mossad agents....oops, sorry, 5 mohels, then there is no way you will admit what has been reported as fact by numerous sources.

It's like you're catapulting the propaganda, hahaha.
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Postby unaltered » Sun Jun 15, 2008 7:57 pm

AlicetheKurious wrote:unaltered wrote:

I don't think ANY questioning is antisemitic; just continued use of lame "facts," which can't pass the smell test...


A sincere question: what is this "smell test"?


smell test idiom. A metaphoric test used to determine the legitimacy or authenticity of a situation.


http://www.wordspy.com/words/smelltest.asp

So for example, I mention the incongruity of the alleged best spies in the world, Mossad, dancing in plain sight like amateurs and continuing an art scam for a year and a half after being "compromised." I question whether close surveillance can be better attained at a distance of 8 10ths of a mile when one of the best spies in the world could probably get a site right close.
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Postby unaltered » Sun Jun 15, 2008 8:06 pm

GM Citizen wrote:
unaltered wrote:
cptmarginal wrote:
Having not read this thread, I do not know the content of your argument.

That being said, there's this great tool called Google that can help you find things:
link

*edit* oops, redundant


The burden is on HIM to support his claim. Google all one wants and nowhere will you find verifiable proof that these two guys were indeed Mossad. You may find "suspicions," but you won't find proof. That's where his burden comes in. One that he and his party clown have failed miserably.

The most telling part of this story comes in here

Despite the denials, sources tell ABCNEWS there is still debate within the FBI over whether or not the young men were spies. Many U.S. government officials still believe that some of them were on a mission for Israeli intelligence. But the FBI told ABCNEWS, "To date, this investigation has not identified anybody who in this country had pre-knowledge of the events of 9/11."



This of course is where people get their "sources," from - those who disagree with the official line; one that was derived from

The five men were held in detention for more than two months. Some of them were placed in
solitary confinement for 40 days
, and some of them were given as many as
seven lie-detector tests.


The burden of logic fell upon you when you stated that all of this stuff came from LaRouche, and those of his ilk. I pointed out some other stuff, asking if it too was from LaRouche, but you have been dancing around that faster than a Mossad agent on a van top.

Alice creamed you with facts. Mac called you out for what he thinks you are, and all you can do is sputter "anti-semites". It's really very pathetic.

But let's face facts here. Much like the hunter in the bear joke, whom we find isn't actually there for the hunting, you really don't come here for the factual debate do you? Never mind...rhetorical question.

No link is good enough for you...noooo....unless a person was actually standing on top of the van, with the 5 Mossad agents....oops, sorry, 5 mohels, then there is no way you will admit what has been reported as fact by numerous sources.

It's like you're catapulting the propaganda, hahaha.


Your devotion to the defense of antisemitism is probably admirable for some. Good luck in your future abominations.
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Postby barracuda » Sun Jun 15, 2008 8:16 pm

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Postby GM Citizen » Sun Jun 15, 2008 8:35 pm

unaltered wrote:Your devotion to the defense of antisemitism is probably admirable for some. Good luck in your future abominations.


How very quaint of you to define a quest for truth as an abomination.

You're reminding me of Goebbels here....you just keep repeating a big lie over and over again, thinking everyone will fall for it. You do yourself proud with that kind of moral company.
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Postby unaltered » Sun Jun 15, 2008 8:41 pm

GM Citizen wrote:
unaltered wrote:Your devotion to the defense of antisemitism is probably admirable for some. Good luck in your future abominations.


How very quaint of you to define a quest for truth as an abomination.

You're reminding me of Goebbels here....you just keep repeating a big lie over and over again, thinking everyone will fall for it. You do yourself proud with that kind of moral company.


Since when did a quest for truth involve repeating some of the silliest bullshit around so revered by antisemites as a smoking gun? You are a legend in your own mind.
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