Impending Event Alert: Do you feel it?

[OP ED]

Yes, the hidden hand, the god of this world---Lucifer, Satan and all his fallen angels.

no those are false teachings put here by that 'hidden hand'

Yaldabaoth's Archons interface with the top human power elements. top humans are promised 'eternal life' and this is enabled by causing the old and dying human leadership to be immediately reincarnated into a specifically chosen host, which has been prepared and 'cleared' of it's original birth spirit by harsh methods. This is the big secret, and I don't think I've ever seen anyone else put it out there. If anyone has ever seen this theory openly discussed in any form I'd be glad to be informed where.

I have heard it discussed, but not in a manner you'd likely consider "open". I don't have any written background material either, save my own notes, as my introductions to this information were largely oral, and not something I ever intend to write in great detail about.

where? a house. during my AA studies. during the, "know your enemy" portion of the broadcast. we discussed worse things too.

According to X-ian doctrine, Jesus is supposed to come from the East. Which I always found fascinating as that's also a Muslim belief, and the East has always been the realm of the Sun God in varying religions - which Constantine also intermixed (Mithraism) with X-ianity during the Council of Nicaea.

Desperate days is right. Woo-woo abounds, just have to make sure we have as close to the correct information as we can get.

(And no, before anyone says it, I'm not "X"ing out Christianity, even Christian scholars use that term as a shortening of the word.)

According to Xn doctrine, Jesus is supposed to come from the East? Where do you get this? Sorry, it is not a Christian doctrine. It's pure isogesis, and sounds like something a pseudo-christian cult would teach.

And, yes, the Messiah (who Xns believe to be Jesus) is spoken of as the 'Sun of Righteousness' in an eschatological Day-of-the-LORD passage in the OT book of Malachi.

Yes, not only is 'X' (the greek letter chi) legitimate shorthand for Christ, it was also a first century Xn symbols for the Lord too.

Matthew 24:27 - For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

a common meme in the rapture cult is the belief that Christ returns in the eastern sky.

I see it rather as a very clear identification of Christ with the Solar Currents. This doctrine is also relevant to neoblakean gnostics (like Thelemites) as the solar (and anti-solar) processions feature prominently in our understanding of the apocalyptic writings and their interpretations.

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btw. I hope I am correct is assuming that the impending event vibes are psychic residue of induced global trauma combining with normal (programmed) late summer apprehension/anticipation innundated in most westerners by public schooling. That is, we've been psy-op-ed to associate feelings of impending doom with this time of year. Good for GOP politicks. Which is a polite way of saying that you're experiencing the after-effects of their (apparently) successful attempts to Control Your Mind.

free yourself, it is only Autumn coming.

Love is the Law,
SHCR

[8bitagent]

free yourself, it is only Autumn coming.

Love is the Law,
SHCR

Funny thing, about Autumn...

an excerpt written Summer 2000 by Hunter S Thompson

http://www.usatoday.com/life/books/exce ... rube_x.htm

No sir, not a chance. Mr. Jones does not even pretend to know what's happening in America Right now, and neither does anyone else.

We have seen weird Times in this country before, but the year 2000 is beginning to look super weird. This time there really is nobody flying the plane ... We are living in dangerously weird times now. Smart people just shrug and admit they're dazed and confused. The only ones left with any confidence at all are the New Dumb. It is the beginning of the end of our world as we knew it. Doom is the operative ethic.

The autumn months are never a calm time in America. Back to Work, Back to Football Practice, etc....Autumn is a very Traditional period, a time of strong Rituals and the celebrating of strange annual holidays like Halloween and Satanism and the fateful Harvest Moon, which can have ominous implications for some people.

Autumn is always a time of Fear and Greed and Hoarding for the winter coming on. Debt collectors are active on old people and fleece the weak and helpless. They want to lay in enough cash to weather the known horrors of January and February. There is always a rash of kidnapping and abductions of schoolchildren in the football months. Preteens of both sexes are traditionally seized and grabbed off the streets by gangs of organized perverts who traditionally give them as Christmas gifts to each other to be personal sex slaves and playthings.

Most of these things are obviously Wrong and Evil and Ugly — but at least they are Traditional. They will happen. Your driveway will ice over, your furnace will blow up, and you will be rammed in traffic by an uninsured driver in a stolen car.

But what the hell? That's why we have Insurance, eh? And the Inevitability of these nightmares is what makes them so reassuring. Life will go on, for good or ill. But some things are forever, right? The structure may be a little Crooked, but the foundations are still strong and unshakable.

Ho ho. Think again, buster. Look around you. There is an eerie sense of Panic in the air, a silent Fear and uncertainty that comes with once-reliable faiths and truths and solid Institutions that are no longer safe to believe in. ... There is a Presidential Election, right on schedule, but somehow there is no President. A new Congress is elected, like always, but somehow there is no real Congress at all — not as we knew it, anyway, and whatever passes for Congress will be as helpless and weak as whoever has to pass for the "New President."

My God does this passage seem as relevant as ever now.

[Penguin]

Rest in peace, old crazy fucker. You knew your shit. Even thou you were a crazy asshole.

[Brighid_Moon]

According to Xn doctrine, Jesus is supposed to come from the East? Where do you get this? Sorry, it is not a Christian doctrine. It's pure isogesis, and sounds like something a pseudo-christian cult would teach.

"For as the lightning comes from the east and flashes to the west, so also will the coming of the Son of Man be. (Matthew, 24: 26-27)."

Edit: LOL See what I get for responding to things before reading the rest of the thread. Thanks, OP ED.

[OP ED]

christian school. i memorized it when i was like twelve or something.

[anothershamus]

8bit wrote(quoting Hunter S.)

We have seen weird Times in this country before, but the year 2000 is beginning to look super weird. This time there really is nobody flying the plane ... We are living in dangerously weird times now. Smart people just shrug and admit they're dazed and confused. The only ones left with any confidence at all are the New Dumb. It is the beginning of the end of our world as we knew it. Doom is the operative ethic.

And boy I must have had the same batch as Hunter S. It was just about the turn of the millennium I lost my MOJO. All my confidence just went out the window.

The only ones left with any confidence at all are the New Dumb

Look who we elected, look at Gore in 2000 his mojo was gone, he didn't fight for it. He was just dazed and confused.

[Perelandra]

I hope I am correct is assuming that the impending event vibes are psychic residue of induced global trauma combining with normal (programmed) late summer apprehension/anticipation innundated in most westerners by public schooling. That is, we've been psy-op-ed to associate feelings of impending doom with this time of year. Good for GOP politicks. Which is a polite way of saying that you're experiencing the after-effects of their (apparently) successful attempts to Control Your Mind.

free yourself, it is only Autumn coming.

Thank you for this and more.

I'm on the fence about the halfpasthuman stuff and haven't thought of it in awhile, I'll have to check it out. It seems entirely plausible. I know that the future affects the present from personal experience. Trying too hard to predict doesn't work though. I haven't noticed anything unusual myself.

[anothershamus]

OPED hit it with:

Which is a polite way of saying that you're experiencing the after-effects of their (apparently) successful attempts to Control Your Mind.

and it is necessary to not try to GET any images just to see if they COME to you.

[marmot]

According to Xn doctrine, Jesus is supposed to come from the East? Where do you get this? Sorry, it is not a Christian doctrine. It's pure isogesis, and sounds like something a pseudo-christian cult would teach.

"For as the lightning comes from the east and flashes to the west, so also will the coming of the Son of Man be. (Matthew, 24: 26-27)."

And?

Again, there is no Christian doctrine teaching that the second coming of Christ is to be expected from the east. Look at the context from where you're proof texting:

23 “Then if anyone says to you, ‘Behold, here is the Christ,’ or ‘There He is,’ do not believe him. 24 “For false Christs and false prophets will arise and will show great signs and wonders, so as to mislead, if possible, even the elect. 25 “Behold, I have told you in advance. 26 “So if they say to you, ‘Behold, He is in the wilderness,’ do not go out, or, ‘Behold, He is in the inner rooms,’ do not believe them. 27 “For just as the lightning comes from the east and flashes even to the west, so will the coming of the Son of Man be.

What is Jesus saying here when he employs the image of lightning appearing from the east and flashing to the west?

Could Jesus be suggesting that he will be coming from the east? Possibly, if we are to interpret the image as carrying both a metaphorical and literal meaning. But we can not know for certain; therefor we can not be dogmatic about this issue.

What we can honestly teach as scriptural is that Christ's appearing will be seen by everyone. Jesus uses this very visual image to emphasize how his reappearing, his coming again, will not be a secret hidden thing, but will be visible from horizon to horizon; the whole world will see his coming. In fact, if you read into verse 30 Jesus says that 'all the tribes of the earth will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and glory.' This will be a world-wide event.

To use the scripture you gave me, Brighid, to support the idea that Christ is to return from the east, and to teach this as dogma would be hermeneutically unsound. Again, it would be something that a pseudo-christian cult would teach. It is not an Xn doctrine.

[Fat Lady Singing]

I had my own Obama dream, although it wasn't very symbolic. Quite literally, I dreamed he was assassinated as he spoke to a crowd. My first thought, in the dream, was, "Well it can't be any more blatant than that," then I was overcome by fear and woke. This was a couple of months ago.

I sincerely hope this dream wasn't in any way predictive. Luckily, I seem to have absolutely no psychic powers of any sort! I think rather my dream indicates my own uneasiness with the current zeitgeist.

[Perelandra]

It is possible to lift out whole layers of meaning from the concealing jumble of the patterns of the pre-creation ripples from future events. Now we can note that the very last gasp effort of the 'dominator' culture will be expressed over 2008 and 2009. These 'control freaks' otherwise variously described as 'illuminati', and 'cabal', and 'Bilderbergers', are going to be using *every* effort, that is to say, *all* their energy over these next 2/two years to attempt to [restrain] the [loss of control] which are implied by emerging future patterns. That the effort is doomed to fail will not deter them from wasting vast quantities of the planet's dwindling resources in the attempt. They are truly desperate people now. And the data sets point to the [desperation] rising at a very rapid rate from the [vernal equinox, spring] onward.

http://halfpasthuman.com/NuHPHTheFuture.htm
Wow.

[Brighid_Moon]

Alright Marmot, I'm not going to argue with you. Neither am I going to argue with 10s of thousands of Dominionists who are teaching these things and trying to take over our country (and it appears may be going to succeed). I have a feeling you believe I am jumping on all Christians, which is not the case (I would never jump on all of anything) - only on those whom are dangerous, as I would any cult. Christianity is not immune to cult infiltration, and they still are technically Christian = re: worshipping Jesus Christ. I suggest doing some research into this phenomenon.

[FourthBase]

I hope I am correct is assuming that the impending event vibes are psychic residue of induced global trauma combining with normal (programmed) late summer apprehension/anticipation innundated in most westerners by public schooling. That is, we've been psy-op-ed to associate feelings of impending doom with this time of year. Good for GOP politicks. Which is a polite way of saying that you're experiencing the after-effects of their (apparently) successful attempts to Control Your Mind.

free yourself, it is only Autumn coming.

Fucking YES, please be correct.

Don't think I never respected you OP ED, I most certainly do.

[marmot]

People in conspiracy world talk a lot about "government/CIA/Pentagon spook psyops", not realizing above that is spiritual spook psyops.

What you describe, as crushingly bizarre to some, sounds entirely plausible. This is why I absolutely believe events such as 9/11 are designed very specifically as a dark spiritual operation and reverberation.

There is one conspiracy, Satan's and ultimately it must fail, Satan's supernatural conspiracy is the conspiracy; all other visible conspiracies are merely outworkings of this supernatural conspiracy. from Conspiracy: a biblical view; p.27

Above, Gary North describes the spiritual worldview for bible believing Christians. I should note that I seriously disagree with Gary North's reconstructionist theology. Sadly, his work has done much to legitimize the Kingdom Now and Dominionist movements like Joel's (occultic) Army. However, his quote, I thought, was worth quoting.

For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places...

[OP ED]

marmot, while what you say is true, you must realize that a literalist interpretation of such phrases is what fundamentalism relies upon. A common rapture catchphrase among baptists and their ilk (which I've heard myself, countless times in various churches) is "splitting the eastern sky" to describe their imminent kidnapping. (rapture, from the latin -- related terms: rape, raptor, rapier, etc.) So, while not neccessarily implied by the scriptures themselves, there are an awful lot of people who read and interpret these phrases this way. The Rapture itself isn't in the bible either, but that doesn't stop about half the Christians in America from believing in it. Propoganda can do that.

If you're a Christian, I'd generally assume you'd have gotten used to people in churches taking things out of context by now.

But it is a silly assertion to say it "isn't a Christian belief" when there are millions of Christians who believe it, regardless of the evidence.

To use the scripture you gave me, Brighid, to support the idea that Christ is to return from the east, and to teach this as dogma would be hermeneutically unsound. Again, it would be something that a pseudo-christian cult would teach. It is not an Xn doctrine

yes. except for the fact that the second largest single denomination of Christians teaches just that. I am still a member. To blindly assert that no one teaches this who is a Christian is silly, and seems to indicate you aren't aware of the variety of Christian interpretations in this Country, much less worldwide. Although I'd personally call all of the major denominations psuedo-christian cults, that doesn't make my opinion of them less marginal or them less mainstream.

We Gnostic types don't interpret any of this literally. I don't expect Jesus to ever return in a literal pie-in-the-sky hero-on-a-white-horse kind of way, or in any literal physical way whatsoever. Much less like a lightning bolt that can somehow be seen worldwide simultaneously (violating most known physics) in the clouds. As if heaven is really in the sky, if it even exists. (which it probably doesn't)

The east is important to most Solar Current cults, of which post-Constantine Christianity is surely a prominent example. (the O.T.O. is another, obviously)

the point being, that just because you can be reasonable while reading scripture, that is, non-literalist, doesn't mean everyone else is. You should check your facts before speaking on behalf of ALL christian doctrine, as if there is such a thing.

My apologies if I am incorrect in assuming you're a christian yourself.
In late-pagan Roman memetics, the word "christian" was a common insult (from about 100-300 e.v.) used to denote violent people incapable of civil discourse. They were already well known for the habit of disagreeing on doctrine to the point of bloodshed. Hardly a healthy start for a religion. No wonder they were suppressed.

(of course, once they took over, they edited the history to make themselves look like only the victims, as if they didn't kill more members of their own religion than the Roman emporers possibly could have)

(fortunately we have archaeology to correct these redactions)

Love is the Law,
SHCR