Fox Network Dollhouse Show - Hip MKULTRA

[Hugh Manatee Wins]

United States of Tara sounds like Sarah Palin's and GW Bush's pronunciation of "terror." Terrism..ya know...no matter how bad things get, always remember she coulda been President!

Months ago I posted about this Steven CIA Spielberg-tainted show and that "terror" homonym plus the social control tactic of discrediting women as unreliable and dangerous.

http://rigorousintuition.ca/board/viewtopic.php?t=15770

Showbiz decoys about mind control are being whipped up since some of us on the internet have dug up decades of the CIA and Pentagon doing it.

Tactic:
Got a scandal? Turn its memes into an amusement park ride which further reinforces the participants inclination to obey the carnie for a good time.

[LilyPatToo]

Thank you for those links, American Dream. From the additional clips (and especially from the interview with the shrink), I can see that the handling of the disorder appears to be mindful and responsible.

I'm still suspicious of some kind of psyops-type twisting of the subject matter in order to mis- or disinform, but that's just me. Wish we got Showtime so that I could be sure of getting to see more episodes--I'll have to depend on further info from those of you who do.

LilyPat

[marmot]

Just watched the premier episode of "The United States of Tara" here

me too.

caught a Narnia reference.

Max to T: 'you gotta go to the shed now.' the shed shot gave me a creepy feeling.

(and, btw: John Corbett has always given me the creeps.)

red flag: executive producer: Steven Spielberg

at certain moments, i thought of the explotation film: Reefer Madness

with Spielberg producing---consider this project, LilyPatToo, a psy-ops!

[LilyPatToo]

marmot, could you explain what sort of goal would be behind this particular psy-op (United States of Tara), assuming that it is one? I may be (much) too close to the subject matter to be able to discern it.

LilyPat

[marmot]

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[epi]

How much more effective would the thought-police have been if they'd just let Winston sit in his house, writing his diary, thinking it was a revolutionary act?

Ha! like us.

Ow! is that a slap of reality that stings and smarts!

Forgive me, didn't mean that. Secretly I actually doublethink that there is a difference, like Winston

[peartreed]

Much like most of "ufology" has been effectively marginalized by ridicule ("the giggle factor") and made taboo to those protecting career credibility, The United States of Tara appears to be setting about to turn Dissociative Disorder or Multiple Personality sufferers into human containers of comedic caricatures as alters. Sort of like a loaded clown car in a circus.

While alter personalities or identities in reality are protective constructs created by unconscious reactions to trauma and abuse, and thus take the form of somewhat damaged, different and diverse individuals within the victim multiple, this particular show appears to be creating, instead, a range of comic neurotics within the wife who will emerge to comedically entertain the audience with extremes in shocking nonconformity.

If this becomes the only popular representation of the DID/MPD victim to inform an otherwise mostly ignorant populace, it will marginalize and denigrate the real victims of mind control splitting, like MK Ultra trauma abuse, to be perceived similarly as zany housewives full of cartoon caricatures.

[Hugh Manatee Wins]

Besides fictionalizing mind control...

I think this show is a keyword hijacking of a recent JFK whistleblower book title, 'The Echo from Dealey Plaza,' by former black Secret Service agent Abraham Bolden who got framed and jailed in a psych ward for years to keep him out of the way after 11/22/63.

(In 2008 there was a new JFK book from Larry Hancock and we got the movie 'Hancock,' too.)

So Abraham Bolden's book is already out.
Then why do a TV series about "ECHO"?

Because there is an ongoing discrimination lawsuit against the Secret Service by 58 black agents.
58...black Secret Service agents! And during the Obama admin., too!
Remember that during the CIA-Media drool about Martin Luther King's 'I have a dream' speech in the near future.

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/stor ... d=17358992

December 18, 2007 · Seven years ago, 58 African-American U.S. Secret Service agents issued sworn statements in a class-action lawsuit, claiming racial discrimination by the agency.

The suit is progressing slowly. The judge in the case has twice issued sanctions against the Secret Service, ordering the agency to provide evidence.

http://www.echofromdealeyplaza.net/

The Echo From Dealey Plaza

The true story of the first African American on the White House Secret Service detail and his quest for justice after the assassination of JFK

by Abraham Bolden

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dollhouse_(TV_series)

Premise

In Dollhouse, Eliza Dushku plays a young woman named Echo, a member of a group of people known as "Actives" or "Dolls."

[Col. Quisp]

I agree with peartreed. I watched the Tara show tonight -- it's not very good at all. Dumbed way down. The shed scene was indeed creepy. Cheap laffs...like when butchy alter "Buck" told her gay son to "fuck 'im up!" (the daughter's no-good boyfriend). I laughed in spite of myself.

The Lolita reference was sorta creepy too (Husband paints the teenage alter's toenails black, she calls it a lolita moment. She didn't read the book, just saw the movie (Kubrick reference)... she liked the first part, not the second....(whatever they consider the second part to be...I assume it's after Lo and Hum settle down together, after Mrs. Haze's demise).

Lots of cheesy expository dialog between the daughter and her boyfriend to "explain" what DID is....ultimately as unsatisfying as the "muffins of triumph" the son bakes for big sis's ballet recital. Buck uses the muffin as an ashtray, says it smells like it was baked by a homo.... Hmmm...muffins....another reference..."Do you Know the Muffin Man..." somehow relates to Aquino and the Presidio....

[Project Willow]

I don't alter switch on command, so perhaps I'm just ignorant and other multiples do

Do you mean you don't alter switch in normative life on command from a civilian (non-handler)?

In terms of media coverage of D.I.D., Tara's flamboyance isn't really anything new. If they did a show about the average multiple it wouldn't be entertaining enough. That Showtime points to ISSTD and Sidran as resources is laudable however.

An interesting aside, and I haven't been sure in which thread to put this, but ritualabuse.us got hacked a couple Saturdays ago, and apparently survivorship.org was hit last week. Hacked as in loading the site brought up a page saying "your site has been hacked..." etc.

ritualabuse.us supposedly hit by Islamic activists on behalf of Gaza victims. Odd that they hit us I thought.

[OP ED]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_Tara

Tara is a tantric meditation deity whose practice is used by practitioners of the Tibetan branch of Vajrayana Buddhism to develop certain inner qualities and understand outer, inner and secret teachings about compassion and emptiness. Tara is actually the generic name for a set of Buddhas or bodhisattvas of similar aspect. These may more properly be understood as different aspects of the same quality, as bodhisattvas are often considered metaphoric for Buddhist virtues.

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The practices themselves usually present Tārā as a tutelary deity (thug dam, yidam) which the practitioners sees as being a latent aspect of one's mind, or a manifestation in a visible form of a quality stemming from Buddha Jnana. As John Blofeld puts it in his The Tantric Mysticism of Tibet:

The function of the Yidam is one of the profound mysteries of the Vajrayana...
Especially during the first years of practice the Yidam is of immense importance. Yidam is the Tibetan rendering of the Sanskrit word "Istadeva" — the in-dwelling deity; but, where the Hindus take the Istadeva for an actual deity who has been invited to dwell in the devotee's heart, the Yidams of Tantric Buddhism are in fact the emanations of the adepts own mind. Or are they?
To some extent they seem to belong to that order of phenomena which in Jungian terms are called archetypes and are therefore the common property of the entire human race. Even among Tantric Buddhists, there may be a division of opinion as to how far the Yidams are the creations of individual minds. What is quite certain is that they are not independently existing gods and goddesses; and yet, paradoxically, there are many occasions when they must be so regarded.

[LilyPatToo]

Project Willow, yes--sorry to have been unclear. I meant that when anyone without my codes commands me to switch, nothing happens. (Well, except that they're instantly no longer part of my circle of safe, trusted people ) But several self-declared deprogrammers have claimed that they would be able to just "call out" an alter. So I wasn't sure that my own lack of response was the norm or not.

Like peartreed and Col. Quisp, once I'd had time to think it over, after watching the pilot episode and reflecting upon it, I found United States of Tara to be unfortunately dumbed-down and that's very disappointing to me. OTOH, the interview with the shrink was great. I just wish we got Showtime, so that I could see more episodes and see if there's any improvement over the first season.

Personally, I'm just not comfortable with a fictional portrayal of a survivor of early childhood trauma being done for laughs. It offends me, no matter how many legitimate experts they say they've consulted. And I do fear that a "snicker factor" is being nurtured by the exaggerated, overly dramatic behavior of the alters.

LilyPat

Re: the hackings--I got an email about survivorship's hacking, but didn't know of the other site's recent experience. It really makes me wonder who would want to hack a board full of trauma survivors--?! Just random sociopathic bullying behavior? Intel-spawned harassment?

[marmot]

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[Wombaticus Rex]

Joss has pushed this theme in every single show he's ever done. He knows, and he wants to make sure that future generations know, too. Government do this shit. They don't protect us, we're not safe. That's the message in all of his work. It's very subversive, and we can't keep having kneejerk reactions every time this material is discussed in popular culture.

I respect the argument that it pollutes the actual history, but I also tend to think that fiction is the more powerful tool for reaching future generations.

[professorpan]

Thanks, Wombat. The reflexive "if it's a tv show/movie/book about x, it must be psyops!" stuff is tiresome and unproductive. Writers and producers are human beings like us, and many of them are interested/fascinated/appalled/concerned about the same things we are, and those concerns come out in their art. (Of course, if you buy into the CIA OWNZ YER TVZ! thinking, then no need to read further.)

It's also important to remember that a depiction of subject X in popular entertainment may open minds, and not just deceive. A silly tv show may lead someone to inquire more deeply into a marginalized subject. I've seen it happen.