Naked Wizard Tased By Reality

[nathan28]

...but I'd have to say, thank god there is still a place (RI) where the cops who taze a naked rock festival-goer are the bad guys.

Feel free to circle jerk on about then...

ZZZzzzz

I'm guessing you haven't been cuffed in a long time, and never followed by plainclothes officers without cause, nor been anywhere near agent provocateurs. We all know that the police protect us from violent crime and nudity, like when the stopped those crackheads from stealing every license plate on my block, or like when they stopped the crack dealers from shooting that guy across the street from my house on the sidewalk, or when they pull people over with dark complexions over for "improper lane usage."

[OP ED]

jeezus. wouldn't want to live in your neighborhood cowbell.

if i saw a naked guy in the park, i'd assume he'd been robbed and offer him some clothes or a ride or something. besides, those kinds of tasers are illegal for civillians in michigan. too inhumane.

doesn't suprise me tho' really. i've become fairly used to living in a world where acts of violence and torture are preferred to nudity as viewing choices of parents for the childrens' eyes.

call me "politically correct" if you like...
[first time i've ever been called that, so far as i recall]

..but it seems unnatural to me.

[SonicG]

if i saw a naked guy in the park, i'd assume he'd been robbed and offer him some clothes or a ride or something.

I don't think they had to taze this guy here in Japan, but he is losing lucrative advertising contracts left and right...

It is not a political scandal, or corruption revelations, or a financial meltdown, but about the arrest of one of Japan's biggest pop stars for being drunk and nude in a public park.

SMAP is Japan's contribution to that ubiquitous global phenomenon - the boy band.

One of its stars is Tsuyoshi Kusanagi, a 34-year-old who has also cropped up in largely forgettable TV dramas and movies.
...

His misadventure all started at 3:00am at a park in downtown Tokyo.

"He was yelling and screaming for quite a time," says a woman who lives next to the park.

"He was obviously very drunk," she said.

When the police rolled up they found the pop idol stark naked, sitting on the grass, asking the police, "what's wrong with being naked?"

He was found to be eight times over the legal driving limit, effectively paralytic.

[brainpanhandler]

The taser was used to force compliance with arrest in a timely manner. Any other opinion is purely subjective and not based in fact. Period. End of story.

Well then, since you put it that way I retract any statements that contradict this purely objective view. That's the way to stick to your stun guns. Don't let 'em wear you down.

[chiggerbit]

My guess is that they were repulsed by the whole thing and were unable to get past their latent homosexual tendencies and were therefore afraid to touch the guy.

Sorry, brainpanhandler, I see you said the same thing I was saying, only you said it on the very first page.

[Cosmic Cowbell]

jeezus. wouldn't want to live in your neighborhood cowbell.

if i saw a naked guy in the park, i'd assume he'd been robbed and offer him some clothes or a ride or something. besides, those kinds of tasers are illegal for civillians in michigan. too inhumane.

Most likely wouldn't want you too either. Of course there are no absolutes, but let me tell you what. If Naked Wizard decided to do what he did in my neighborhood park with children around, there are those who would do much more to him than what I have implied. Again, reality check. You don't have to like the fact but you do have to live with it.

doesn't suprise me tho' really. i've become fairly used to living in a world where acts of violence and torture are preferred to nudity as viewing choices of parents for the childrens' eyes.

And it doesn't surprise me than you again attempt to frame my words into something that wasn't implicit in them to elevate your own ego.

As far as I'm concerned. Coachella was billed and promoted as a family friendly event. And while I do think that the actions of the police officers were appropriate with regard to Taser use as stated prior in this thread, just a little part of me feels that if a tad bit of punishment did cross the mind of the officer, I'm OK with that.

Fucked Up Naked Wizards beware...we'll see how many show up next year...LOL

Chigs, you asked what cops did before tasers. My response was simply to point out the Baton.

One thing I will say I was not happy with was the crushing blow to the guys sternum with the knee drop. That was uncalled for and the officer should be held to account for it..

[kool maudit]

There are many pedophiles I'm sure who expose themselves to kids that don't do it in overtly sexual ways. I'm not inclined to psychoanalyze whether or not that may be the case in the heat of the moment. And hey, if my park becomes known as the park whereby you get your ass kicked when you choose to roam naked while children are at play for whatever reason, I'm alright with that. I do appreciate your thoughts however because it serves to remind me that people like you exist. As I'm sure mine do to you. Again, I'm alright with that.

that's very tough. don't ever go to germany. or denmark, norway etc.

[sunny]

That being said, psychedelic nudity at festival rock events is supposed to be de rigeur ever since the mud pits at Woodstock. It's a goddamn tradition, and may in fact be one of the few venues where such innocent behaviour is actually seen as positively contributive to the scene. And I somehow doubt any topless ladies are getting tazed by these fat-assed bozorific punks. I would have hoped someone in the crowd would have had the wherewithal to throw a few heavy objects at the cops heads. There is no excuse, none, for this shit. Nudity is not terrorism. Nudity is not violent. It is the virtually most defenseless position one can attain as a healthy adult. I don't care how patient they were with the Wizard (god bless him), the proper response from security in this instance would have been to chuckle and walk on. 'Cause no harm, no foul, really, now.

Perfect, thank you!

Heavens to murgatroid! Public sexual relations between disrobed individuals??? I feign to swoon!! Nay, I... I die.

Bless you! Best laugh in a month.

Not a cop. Simply a father and a taxpayer.

Hey, I'm a mom/grandmom, taxpayer, and, I might add, a law abiding citizen and I say no of tazing happy naked people! My grandbabies would get over seeing, or not seeing as the case may be, some dudes penis. And if I or their parents are standing right there the chances of a naked potential pedophile getting their hands on them are nil.

[Cosmic Cowbell]

Not a cop. Simply a father and a taxpayer.

Hey, I'm a mom/grandmom, taxpayer, and, I might add, a law abiding citizen and I say no of tazing happy naked people! My grandbabies would get over seeing, or not seeing as the case may be, some dudes penis. And if I or their parents are standing right there the chances of a naked potential pedophile getting their hands on them are nil.

I'm right there with you, as I've stated several times in this fucking thread.

Try getting over the attitudes people and actually read what I've written and/or quit quoting me out of context because you've got your panties in a bunch over someone who takes a different point of view.

Diversity of opinion is a good thing and if you wish it to continue, I suggest ya'll lighten up a bit.

[brainpanhandler]

My guess is that they were repulsed by the whole thing and were unable to get past their latent homosexual tendencies and were therefore afraid to touch the guy.

Sorry, brainpanhandler, I see you said the same thing I was saying, only you said it on the very first page.

No apology necessary. I think we pretty much said the same things point for point.

I think it was a good distinction to point out that as a general rule tasers should be used to prevent someone from doing something and not to force someone to do something.

[brainpanhandler]

Diversity of opinion is a good thing and if you wish it to continue, I suggest ya'll lighten up a bit.

Oh, settle down and maybe avoid phrasing like:

The taser was used to force compliance with arrest in a timely manner. Any other opinion is purely subjective and not based in fact. Period. End of story.

I don't like the idea that simply because I disagree with someone here I earn an enemy. We're not enemies. We probably agree on a lot of things. But not this.

[Cosmic Cowbell]

I think it was a good distinction to point out that as a general rule tasers should be used to prevent someone from doing something and not to force someone to do something.

And therein lies the rub.

One persons "prevent someone from doing something", or resisting as the law and I saw it is another persons "not to force someone to do something", Barracuda's "comply" as he saw it.

How should one draw the fine distinction? Or is impossible to do so due to the nature of it's subjectivity?

I hope your not saying it should have been used to -prevent- the Wizard from taking off his clothes...

And if the implication is that in the case of a violent offense that may put the safety of the Public or the Officer at risk of potential death or injury, that that's when a Taser should be used, well, we saw how ineffective it was here didn't we. If it we me in that "at risk" position, I think I'd prefer the 9mm.

Just sayin...

With regard to the statement BPH references above, that was probably more a gut reaction response to the notion put forth by her and Chigs that because the Cops in this case were Homophobic, they somehow feigned trying to restrain the guy so they could make use of the Tase. To put it bluntly, that just sounded a bit to R.I. "ish" for my taste.

[Trifecta]

I think the manner of the tassering needs to be brought into question also. one in the back, two directly on the chest, one over the heart (ffs) and one at the base of the brain, one in the neck and back to the heart again.

sick.

[beeline]

I think it was a good distinction to point out that as a general rule tasers should be used to prevent someone from doing something and not to force someone to do something.

First: I tend to agree with CC and Marmot on this one. Don't want to get tazed/restrained/beaten/arrested? Don't do mind altering substances at a public event and get naked. Simple as that.

WRT prevention/force: So far everyone has overlooked the fact that, in these types of situations, you don't have time to pause and reflect whether or not if this force is necessary or not. I don't think any cop has time to reflect and say, gee, well, this guy may not be responding to reason, direct orders, maybe I should wrist lock him first and then taze him second. They are not trained this way, nor should they be.

Finally, regarding the folks who submit that 'nudity is not a crime,' the fact is (a) it is a crime and (b) there are plenty of other nuisance crimes that make life unpleasant for those subjected to them.

Would it have been OK if he squatted and shit? Pissed? I mean, he's not hurting anyone with those actions either. How about if he started jerking off? Stuck a finger up his ass?

What about playing your car radio so loud it wakes up the entire neighborhood at 3 a.m.? No one is getting physically hurt, no, but it's stilll illegal to do that in my city, to the tune of a $300 fine. Just becasue we have "freedom of expression" doesn't automatically mean that all expression is legal.

People, we live in a society. If you are not going to submit to some baseline norms in that society, you are going to pay the price. In this case, drugs+nudity+crowded festival=tazing.

[brainpanhandler]

They are not trained this way, nor should they be.

Yes, they most emphatically should be and these guys had all the time in the world to consider their options.