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Postby Sweejak » Tue Sep 08, 2009 12:29 pm

Percival wrote:ALL the forums are blowing up over this with everyone thinking it is real, which I imagine is what Alex wanted, even though he knows its FAKE.


This truly sucks. Anti-War was just threatened with a suit by NPR's Guy Roz over a satirical article. Conterpunch pissed me off to no end with the fake Senor story from years ago and there's the Pakistani paper that picked an Onion story about the moon and Armstrong, oh and the film about Kubrick faking the moon featuring a lot of heavy hitters. Ha fuking Ha.

I don't think it's funny no more.
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Postby Sweejak » Tue Sep 08, 2009 12:33 pm

Like the hype before Loose Change Final Cut, which promised so much and delivered so little, and ended up more like an uncontrolled self-demolition for the Truth movement.

But that was far and away the best of the series.
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Postby Searcher08 » Tue Sep 08, 2009 12:47 pm

Sweejak wrote:
Like the hype before Loose Change Final Cut, which promised so much and delivered so little, and ended up more like an uncontrolled self-demolition for the Truth movement.

But that was far and away the best of the series.


I agree in terms of pure facts and accuracy, but LC2E was (unintentionally perhaps) also a catalyst and motivator for people to talk and act about 9/11. IMHO they dreadfully mismanaged the huge momentum they had created.
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Postby Sweejak » Tue Sep 08, 2009 12:48 pm

Sheen's idea or Jones's? Will Sheen get more attention than Sheehan?
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Postby Percival » Tue Sep 08, 2009 1:02 pm

Here is EXACTLY how they did it, the time stamps on the comments even prove it.

FIRST they posted the 20 minutes with the President piece WITH NO DISCLAIMER that it was FAKE.

Then they added the DISCLAIMER a bit later after everyone spread this around the net as if it were REAL.

Then even later, he finally posted a STORY indicating that it was not real but was in fact a letter Sheen sent to the President in an attempt to get a meeting with him.


VERY deceptive.
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Postby Sweejak » Tue Sep 08, 2009 1:09 pm

And these tactics are likely to get Obama to address 9-11 questions!!?

Good on Sheen, I guess, because it's bad for his career to be associated with 9-11 so it takes some courage, or it did... a long time ago when HE ALREADY DID THIS.

Personally I wouldn't get anyone other than a scientist to go after evidence and no one less than a professional investigative historian to go after the other 9-11 stuff and Sheen is neither.
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Postby Percival » Tue Sep 08, 2009 1:14 pm

Sweejak wrote:And these tactics are likely to get Obama to address 9-11 questions!!?

Good on Sheen, I guess, because it's bad for his career to be associated with 9-11 so it takes some courage, or it did... a long time ago when HE ALREADY DID THIS.

Personally I wouldn't get anyone other than a scientist to go after evidence and no one less than a professional investigative historian to go after the other 9-11 stuff and Sheen is neither.


If Sheen ever got close enough to 9-11 truth to make a real difference he would be discredited easily, he is an admitted coke head, alcoholic and adulterer who has slept many prostitutes and been busted for such several times.

Not that I care about those things, I do not, but that stuff would easily be used to make him look like a nutob.
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Postby Searcher08 » Tue Sep 08, 2009 1:19 pm

@Percival

Deceptive is the perfect word for this. This was carefuly planned and thought through, not 'human error'.

The chances of Sheen ever meeting Obama in this fashion are very tiny; the chances of his answers being similar to the ones given - very high.

After you posted it was untrue, initially I laughed - there is a real lesson in caution here for myself. Now, I feel 'duped'. The Alex Jones Brand has lost about 70% of my goodwill in one day.

@Sweejak

Very difficult to find a brilliant mind, tough but compassionate personality with great political astuteness to navigate the choppy waters between incompetency, stupidity and malicious intent. Any ideas?
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Postby Sweejak » Tue Sep 08, 2009 1:26 pm

Searcher08 wrote:@Percival

Deceptive is the perfect word for this. This was carefuly planned and thought through, not 'human error'.

The chances of Sheen ever meeting Obama in this fashion are very tiny; the chances of his answers being similar to the ones given - very high.

After you posted it was untrue, initially I laughed - there is a real lesson in caution here for myself. Now, I feel 'duped'. The Alex Jones Brand has lost about 70% of my goodwill in one day.

@Sweejak

Very difficult to find a brilliant mind, tough but compassionate personality with great political astuteness to navigate the choppy waters between incompetency, stupidity and malicious intent. Any ideas?


This may all have an interesting ending but this deception is so bad that now I don't even want to post a good one by Nimmo if it comes from infowars. Was this Sheen's idea? I wonder.

No I don't have any ideas who has the compassion and the humility to satisfy the brilliant mind criteria. I think lots of people do on occasion but not consistently. Maybe some religious leaders. I need to think about that.
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Postby RocketMan » Tue Sep 08, 2009 1:47 pm

I think the ending of that "open letter" (thanks Percival for clearing up the publication timeline, that explains the silly format, further discredited by the overbearing, dare I say camp style of the "script") says all one really needs to know about the whole deal:

CS – Mr. President, I implore you based on the evidence you now possess, to use your Executive Power. Prove to us all Sir, that you do, in fact, care. Create a truly comprehensive and open Congressional investigation of 9/11 and its aftermath. The families deserve the truth, the American people and the rest of the free world deserve the truth. Mr. President -

(He pauses. We shake hands).

CS – Make sure your on the right side of history.

(The President breaks the handshake).

PBO – I am on the right side of history. Thank you Charlie, my staff and I will be in touch.

(I watch as he strides gracefully out of the room, the truth I provided him held firmly by his side; in the hand of providence.)


Well that and the whatreallyhappened.com references plus the endless Pentagon speculation.
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Postby Jeff » Tue Sep 08, 2009 1:53 pm

Charlie Sheen wrote:
PBO – Big fan of the show, by the way.

CS – Sir, I can’t imagine when you might find the time to actually watch my show given the measure of what you inherited.

PBO – I have it Tivo’d on Air Force One. Nice break from the traveling press corps.
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Postby Nordic » Tue Sep 08, 2009 1:56 pm

RocketMan wrote:
CS – Make sure your on the right side of history.


They don't even run this stuff through a spellcheck? What a joke.
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Postby Percival » Tue Sep 08, 2009 1:58 pm

Jeff wrote:
Charlie Sheen wrote:
PBO – Big fan of the show, by the way.

CS – Sir, I can’t imagine when you might find the time to actually watch my show given the measure of what you inherited.

PBO – I have it Tivo’d on Air Force One. Nice break from the traveling press corps.


BO is one of 18 people who actually watch Two and a Half Men. :lol:


I think you get a pass Jeff because when you posted the original the disclaimer wasnt posted with the article yet, they didnt put that on till later.




Relative to the pre-hype, what a let down. Listening to AJ now, he seldom notes the "fictional" aspect, and basically says this is a PR stunt, readers who read the "interview" are given the basic 20-points overview, yada yada. AJ promising more "developments" this week. I cringe to imagine. This isn't objectivism, this ploy is fodder for jokes. It'll be interesting to see if, and how, MSM reports this. Now AJ's saying, this is like a poison pill, when the media bites the worm, they get the hook, pfff.
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Postby jingofever » Tue Sep 08, 2009 3:02 pm

Percival wrote:BO is one of 18 people who actually watch Two and a Half Men.

It's actually the second most watched sitcom today and number six overall in ratings.

Percival wrote:Listening to AJ now, he seldom notes the "fictional" aspect, and basically says this is a PR stunt...

From what I read, not a PR stunt, but "a Psy-Op operation against the Elite" which "will force the Mainstream Media to look at all the points and discuss them." Your move globalists.
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Postby 8bitagent » Tue Sep 08, 2009 3:24 pm

Wow.

Looks I was dead wrong.

So the big earthshattering news? Regular AJ guest Charlie Sheen wrote
an article.

Why would AJ hype that up as if some massive whistleblower or event was going down, and then aggressively push an interview with Obama that never happened?

I think AJ hit a new low that is going to royally backfire.

Btw, you cats know who DID meet with Obama regarding 9/11?
Prominent 9/11 widow and activist Beverly Eckert. Unfortunately she died in a plane crash earlier this year, along with the one guy who had the balls to scramble planes over DC(on the metro commuter train accident)


erosoplier wrote:I was thinking a few hours ago, in relation to this Alex Jones thread, that the idea was to make truthers look like Star Trek devotees of 20 years ago. And this is how you do it. Thanks Charlie Sheen.


When most the "anti establishment/anti Bush" liberals in America even hate the truthers: mission accomplished.
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