Connecticut Elementary School Massacre

[Iamwhomiam]

mulebone, I understand your disgust, honestly, I do, but I don't think you understand what occurs within the so-called 'unaffected' populace. It is not mere rubber-necking but a response, a reaction to an unbelievable horror and a search for understanding by those powerless to change the day's events.

You simply cannot imagine how I'm feeling, reliving my loss as each of these mass murders become progressively worse than the last. Feeling each parents' loss as if it were mine. Every time.

Right now C2C am has a 2 A advocate on who's soon to tell us how better off we'd all be if only everyone were to be armed, all of the time, everywhere. Gun control advocates crying for a ban on FB and NRA supporters defending their right to keep and bear arms, wrongly calling a deadly weapon a "tool."

Tools are used to build things, to create and repair things while guns have only one purpose, to propel a projectile to hit their target with lethal force, to kill or destroy. Terming a gun or a weapon as a 'killing tool' I would accept, because that is an accurate definition of its purpose.

[8bitagent]

You wanna know how many massacre news stories I read today?

None.

Saw the headlines, turned away.
Just like I'd do at a car wreck.

But I'm not a rubber necker like you folk.

Ever read Bradbury's The Crowd?

You folk would find a welcome home there.

You can ban me now.

Just make it fucking permanent this time.

"Kay?

Naw, stay. I like ya. I think you're very astute.

We're all around kids for the most part. I know some here have lost children. I think mentally we need a separation. It's why for a lot of people there's a disconnect. I mean to stop and really picture
20 5-6 year olds shot up in a classroom...I want to vomit. It's perhaps one of the most seering things we've seen in 'the land of the free' in quite some time. Of course many in their own way will skirt, including I, from
the stark gravity of the event. Just yesterday those kids were probably laughing with their parents wiping food from their mouth, perhaps drawing with crayons or being silly with a book. To think in an instant a pure sociopath
destroyed all that *is* unthinkable and that's perhaps one reason we may discuss things in the fashion we do. Least I'm being honest? *hides*

[82_28]

Mulebone, let me explain something to you and why I said "FUCK YOU" to you. And no, I don't want you to "leave" either. But you can't be such a cocksucker around here like that. I mean fuck, be a dick about shit like this if you have to. I spent the whole day (for the most part) crying and thinking of others (esp Iamwhoiam) because this shit fucking hits hard and when you have a goddamned place like here to speculate away and your cool cat passive aggressive "I'm probably gonna get banned" ass comes in here and pipes up about how idiotic it is that the subject is taken as it is, is fucking ridiculous. Again, fuck you.

But, peace. Really. End of day, peace. And this is what I mean.

[Project Willow]

You know how you can tell that a lot of folks around here have heart? Some troll pops in just to insult the hell out of everyone, but people try to reason with him anyway, speak to him as a human being. RI never did get trolls.

[lupercal]

Snippets from the MSM tonight (paraphrased), shooter killed his mother then killed another part of her in the form of the kids and others who were attached to her as a teacher.

Looks like his mother wasn't working at the school this year, which makes the OCT even more improbable:

Nancy Lanza, 54, whom Adam murdered inside the home the two shared, reportedly had worked at Sandy Hook Elementary School. But more recently, she was taking care of her son.

“She needed to be home with Adam,” the family insider said.

Nancy was known as a pillar of the community, while neighbors viewed her troubled son as a terror.

http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/ada ... -1.1220752.

Now this is from a Daily News article based on an "ABC News Exclusive" mainly bent on painting the official lone nut as a crazy mofo, and I'm not vouching for its veracity, just using it to illustrate something I've already noticed: the stories that ring most false are, predictably, the lame efforts to supply a motive, which if past is prologue will never come into any clearer focus than an ever-changing miscellany of dimestore psychological profiling ("it was the divorce!") and conventional wisdom that the retarded kid snapped. In other words the Achilles heel is already bleeding.

[seemslikeadream]

“She needed to be home with Adam,” the family insider said.

Nancy was known as a pillar of the community, while neighbors viewed her troubled son as a terror.



THEN WHY DID SHE HAVE THOSE GUNS? WHY DID SHE NOT SECURE THOSE GUNS SO HE COULD NOT GET HIS HANDS ON THEM.....I BLAME HER....SHE BOUGHT THE GUNS.....SHE PUT THE GUNS IN HIS HANDS

DID SHE NOT KNOW HER SON WAS A TERROR?

[semiconscious]

“She needed to be home with Adam,” the family insider said.

Nancy was known as a pillar of the community, while neighbors viewed her troubled son as a terror.



THEN WHY DID SHE HAVE THOSE GUNS? WHY DID SHE NOT SECURE THOSE GUNS SO HE COULD NOT GET HIS HANDS ON THEM.....I BLAME HER....SHE BOUGHT THE GUNS.....SHE PUT THE GUNS IN HIS HANDS

DID SHE NOT KNOW HER SON WAS A TERROR?

yep, this is the almost universally unasked question: why did this woman own multiple semi-automatic weapons? apparently the media considers asking this question the equivalent of asking why someone would own multiple pairs of shoes - the assumption is either that we all do, or that, even if we don't, it is still perfectly 'normal'...

[lupercal]

^ Oh I think people are asking, just not on camera. We haven't heard the soothing answer yet but I expect it will come along soon enough. And what if it doesn't? Then "we'll just never know." Ask (insert who the feck ever) and they'll nod their head sagely and tell you there's lots of things we just have to chalk up to cosmic weirdness when MSNBC can't come up with a plausible lie. You see, the official story is always true, no matter how inane. Or maybe Cheney was just trying to protect us from eevul terrrists.


p.s. yes this is sarcasm.

[lupercal]

Looks like the "mother's beloved students" meme is a dead letter, along with any actual connection she might have had to the school. But it does appear that Lanza might have attended it:

A law enforcement official speaking on condition of anonymity said investigators believe Lanza attended the school several years ago but appeared to have no recent connection to it.

At least one parent said Lanza's mother was a substitute teacher there. But her name did not appear on a staff list. And the official said investigators were unable to establish any connection so far between her and the school.

http://www.kansascity.com/2012/12/14/39 ... rylink=cpy

Title of the article: "Police, world wonder about Conn. shooting motive"

[semiconscious]

^ Oh I think people are asking, just not on camera. We haven't heard the soothing answer yet but I expect it will come along soon enough. And what if it doesn't? Then "we'll just never know." Ask (insert who the feck ever) and they'll nod their head sagely and tell you there's lots of things we just have to chalk up to cosmic weirdness when MSNBC can't come up with a plausible lie. You see, the official story is always true, no matter how inane. Or maybe Cheney was just trying to protect us from eevul terrrists.


p.s. yes this is sarcasm.

while i'm sure there're people asking this off-camera, i'm equally sure that there will be absolutely no attempt to create a plausible answer whatsoever. instead, we will simply be left with an implication: that the answer is so 'obvious' that it's the asking of the question itself that's 'strange'...

[lupercal]

^ Agree. They might just never get around to asking.

[semiconscious]

^ Agree. They might just never get around to asking.

lesson learned from 9/11:

taking the time to answer questions / fabricate responses is pointless & unnecessary. far simpler & easier to go the echo chamber route, while at the same time implying that only a moron would question 'minor details', the explanations of which are 'obvious'...

because who wants to be considered a moron?...

[Iamwhomiam]

There are so many reasons for everything that happens, there will never be an accurate rationale put forward for this or most other mass murders. We'll never know why.

Perhaps he went to the school to hurt those he saw as responsible for taking his mother's time, leaving him with little or no time with her for his perceived needs? Maybe he went after those innocents he perceived as being the same as those classmates who once tormented him because he was 'different'?

Maybe he Hated his mom for divorcing his dad? Maybe she had firearms at home because she was afraid of being harmed by her ex?

Maybe he was possessed by demons. Maybe he was possessed by demons placed in his head by gov't operatives.

How about he was an immature, socially naive, isolated and teen rejected by all who were supposed to love him and was simply very pissed-off and wanted to inflict as much pain as his undeveloped brain could conceive others would feel because of his lethal actions. And on and on without ever a solution to prevent such further violence, or a true understanding of 'why' such events take place.

If your heart hurts, write your representative and share your views with them. Mine told me this was NOT the time to discuss such things as gun control. So I asked him, "I've been waiting nearly 7 years now, so when will the time be right to discuss minimizing Gun Violence? How many more innocent children need die before the time is right?" I didn't receive a response.

edited to correct misspelling of word in 1st sentence

[solace]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... earms.html

Mother was an avid gun collector who took the kids target shooting, evidently.

[solace]

Other examples of differing info


"UPDATE: Adam Lanza had an “altercation” with four staff members at the Sandy Hook Elementary School the day before he killed 20 children and six adults there, NBC News reports. It’s unclear what the altercation was about but three of the four staff members were among those killed Friday. The fourth wasn’t at the school that day and is being questioned by investigators. Earlier in the week, Lanza tried to buy a rifle but was rejected because the state has a waiting period. NBC News hears word that Lanza actually had four handguns on him—not two as was initially reported. A rifle was found in the car he used to drive to the school.

Saturday, Dec. 15 at 11:44 a.m.: Initial reports said that Nancy Lanza was a teacher at Sandy Hook Elementary, where Adam Lanza went on a shooting rampage and killed 20 children and six adults Friday. Now it isn’t clear whether that’s the case and so far officials have failed to clarify the situation. A former Newtown school board official told the Wall Street Journal that “no one has heard of her,” adding that “teachers don’t know her.” The Associated Press reports that at least one parent identified Nancy Lanza as a substitute teacher at the school but her name isn’t on a staff list and an official said they have so far been unable to establish a connection between her and the school.

The two semiautomatic pisols and .223-caliber Bushmaster rifle Lanza used in the shooting were registered to his mother, whom several witnesses identified as an avid gun collector. She apparently taught her kids how to shoot the guns. The owner of a landscaping business who recently decorated her yard for Christmas tells Reuters she once showed him a “really nice, high-end rifle” that she purchased. “She said she would often go target shooting with her kids.”

Meanwhile, authorities failed to release a list of victims Saturday morning as had been widely expected, although they promised one would be forthcoming. So far, officials have found “very good evidence in this investigation that our investigators will be able to use in, hopefully, painting the complete picture as to how—and more importantly why—this occurred,” said state police Lt. Paul Vance. He also added that investigators have determined Lanza forced his way into the school and was not let inside by anyone."

http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/ ... oting.html