Murder of UK MP Jo Cox

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Re: Murder of UK MP Jo Cox

Postby American Dream » Tue Jun 21, 2016 6:43 pm

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TUESDAY, JUNE 21, 2016

In praise of hate posted by Richard Seymour

In this time of universal pleas for civility and respect - god help us all, and save us from those two domesticating constraints - I would like to push gently at first, and then rather roughly, against the wrong lessons that are being drawn from the murder, allegedly by a fascist, of Jo Cox MP.

There is, of course, a 'there' there. In the tropes of 'hate' - 'the well of hatred', and so on. When that became the synecdoche for everything that was fucked up in the sick hunting and grisly killing (one might say, in view of the brutality of the murder, the methods used, and the insistent repetition of their use, 'over-killing') of a centre-left MP, it seemed to be about more than fascism and racism. It was as if the killing reminded us how we feel about the vicious sewer-sluice of bigotry and bullying on social media, the id-stream of unutterable nastiness, particularly toward women, in politics but also more generally. As if it could be made to stand for the particular toxic misogyny aimed at women who gain success, and perhaps at a stretch the coldness and brutality of everyday life. As if it reminded us how much grief we might be carrying around for the wounds inflicted by this society, for its victims.

All of that is arguably what is going on under the rubric of 'hate'. And why not? It is a shame that some who, for reasons of habitus or something else, cannot empathise with the widespread sense of alienation from the political class and media, have taken this to mean that there is too much hatred of politicians. As if to say, this murder might not have happened if people were more respectful of John Bercow. As if politicians had nothing to do with cultivating the backlash against multiculturalism and the Islamophobic panic that is fuelling the reactionary surge. As if they have played no role in visiting on people the social misery and pain from which 'hate' might arise. As if there were not several multiple shades between hating something and murdering someone on account of it. But let that stand for a moment, and think about it another way. Start with where we are. Europe.

The EU referendum debate is structured around two poles that have barely shifted in the last couple of years. It is all about immigration vs the economy. And if we find those two issues poised counter to one another, that is because of the curious way in which each issue is separately constructed. 'The economy' is characteristically spoken of as a politically neutral terrain, a zone of technocratic governance, of growth, trade and inflation, where all supposedly agree on the main objectives. Obviously, no such consensus exists, or could exist. Soaring house prices are good for Daily Mail readers, terrible for young people. Full employment is the traditional priority of the labour movement, counter-inflation and a strong pound that of the City. Nonetheless, whenever 'the economy' is invoked, we are all supposed to think that we all agree on what it is, and what it's for.

Immigration is something else entirely. One can try, as lesser mortals like Nick Clegg have before us, to sanitise it and depoliticise it and stop it from being a 'political football'. No one buys it. It has long been treated by most people as a matter of 'fairness'. Somehow, though, the Right have been the only ones politicising the issue. They have spoken in a moral language about immigration. It may make us a bit more wealthy, they say, but it's not fair. It undercuts wages. It replaces good jobs with bad jobs. It makes the poorest workers more precarious. I will not, here at least, try to disprove these claims, though they are arrant nonsense, based on 'common sense' simplifications about how the economy works. It's sufficient to note the incredible attractiveness of these propositions when the language of 'fairness' is annexed almost exclusively by the Right. And in this debate, bizarre though it may be, immigration has become the only stable index of 'fairness': a constant sleight, a constant offence to people who were, after all, born here (and thus should come first).

This discourse of 'fairness' thus lies somewhere at the intersection of individual and nation. It's where the neoliberal ontology of 'enterprise' in eternal struggle for self-maximisation, meets the nationalist ontology of 'people' in eternal struggle against the Other. If competition is to be the law of all social life, if there are to be winners and losers, if we are to scorn and diminish losers, if we need an 'underclass', a lower-down onto whom to pile the humiliations that are visited on us - well, then, at least let Britain come first. And if we are going to be punished for all our minor transgressions during the boom, for having a little bit of debt, for not saving enough, for not buying enough, for not having a better job, for not working harder, then at least punish them more.

This is where we have to make the appropriate space for social sadism - lavishly, opulently, beautifully theorised by China Miéville here. It is, ironically, people at their most (in a sense) utopian who are most inclined to need to be sadistic, to need to diminish others. It makes their loss and vulnerability, the failure of the world to live up to their expectations (whether realistic or not), meaningful. It's also worth mentioning the fury that derives from being forcibly reminded that we are not who we would like to think we are - or the fury that disposes of the conflict that this realisation gives rise to. If we as a nation are inclined to tell ourselves that we are tolerant, open-minded, confident and reasonable, we hate no one as much as those who remind us of the ways in which we aren't that. Those whose presence forcibly represents the ways in which we have become narrow-minded, and melancholic, through the loss of our fantasies of colonial omnipotence.

But here is my point. We, those of us broadly on the progressive side of this argument, shouldn't be so quick to disown all that. It is as impossible to conceive of justice without punishment as it is perverse sexuality (most sexuality) without that idea lurking somewhere. Justice requires sanction. And the idea of a pristine, bloodless ritual of punishment, safeguarded by a division of functions, is a modern illusion. Its result is ironically that we punish more, with less satisfaction: we always feel short-changed. To disavow our aggressive impulses, our desire to punish, our rage, is to engage in a dubious operation of externalisation. There are at least two ways in which we can externalise 'evil' in this sense. We can, as Fanon suggested, project our aggression onto a racial Other, finding in them all that is bestial and barbaric in our own behaviour and desires. That is Farage and the faraginous hordes behind him. Or, we can project it onto those who we believe to be the racist hordes (whether they are or not doesn't necessarily affect the degree of projection).

To put it like this: we can no more live without hate than we can live without an idea of justice. We can no more live outside of resentment than we can live outside of pain, and blame, and unrealistic ideals. There is something deeply suspect about any politics, or any person, that professes to be free of it, that has nothing to despise. Show me a person without a hateful fibre in their being, and I will show you the collection of feet in their attic. The idea, one would think, is to find something creative to do with our hates, our rages. As to Europe, of course, we came far too late to the party to make any but the slightest difference to the debate.

But there is this. The reactionary wedge in this country, is not its future. The nationalist reflux is dangerous because it is the despairing backlash of something that is dying. The young are moving in a very different direction. So, here is a moment. Here is a unique chance to bury that Britain, that authoritarian, conservative rat-hole, that worshipper of the idols of Seventies light entertainment, that incubator of child rape scandals and football violence, that forelock-tugging Britain that adulates power and kicks the poor, and marches us inexorably toward something that is not so much pre-fascist as pre-apocalypse. Here is a chance to assemble the social forces who hate fascism and are terrified by the racist Right, to begin a frontal assault on their fortresses and bulwarks. A task whose success will, I submit, not be expedited by giving ground to the demand for the parliamentary gentrification of political life.
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Re: Murder of UK MP Jo Cox

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Re: Murder of UK MP Jo Cox

Postby American Dream » Wed Jun 22, 2016 1:04 pm

Thomas Mair, BREXIT, and the US-UK neo-Nazi Connection

To extremists in the U.K., and their neo-Nazi brethren in the United States, the BREXIT vote is really all about race. Anti-immigrant arguments in support of BREXIT by the likes of Donald Trump, who said he would vote for the U.K. to leave the E.U. in an interview yesterday, are amplified by the racist right on social media with far greater impact.




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Re: Murder of UK MP Jo Cox

Postby American Dream » Wed Jun 22, 2016 5:45 pm

Meet the FBI Informant Who Organized Neo-Nazi Gathering Attended by Jo Cox Murder Suspect in 2000

JUAN GONZÁLEZ: Well, we turn now to Britain, which is continuing to mourn last week’s murder of parliamentarian Jo Cox. She was stabbed and shot last week in her district after meeting with constituents. Her murderer, Thomas Mair, reportedly yelled out "Britain First" during the attack—a reference to the far-right, anti-immigrant political party of the same name which is pushing for Britain to leave the EU in tomorrow’s Brexit referendum. Cox was a vocal advocate for Britain to remain in the European Union.

More information is coming to light about Mair’s ties to neo-Nazi groups in the United States and Britain. The Southern Poverty Law Center here in the U.S. has revealed Mair is a longtime supporter of the neo-Nazi National Alliance. Documents released by the center show Mair has spent over $500 buying periodicals and other items from the group, including a manual that contained information on how to build a pistol. In addition, The Daily Telegraph is reporting Mair subscribed to S.A. Patriot, a South African magazine published by White Rhino Club, a pro-apartheid group.

AMY GOODMAN: Meanwhile, a former paid FBI informant named Todd Blodgett has revealed he met Thomas Mair at a neo-Nazi gathering that the informant set up in London in 2000. Beginning in the mid-'90s, Blodgett worked with several leaders of the far right, including Willis Carto, who founded the Liberty Lobby, and William Pierce, leader of the neo-Nazi National Alliance. Blodgett was also a co-owner of Resistance Records, the world's largest neo-Nazi music label. Todd Blodgett is joining us now from his home in Iowa.

Todd Blodgett, welcome to Democracy Now! Tell us what you know about this man, Thomas Mair, who killed Jo Cox.

TODD BLODGETT: Yes, thank you. I met Tommy—he was known as Tommy when I met him in about May of 2000. I had just begun working as a paid FBI informant in March of that year. William Pierce, who was the main guy with Resistance Records, but also my co-owner, wanted to convene a meeting in London, because there was a Leeds chapter and another chapter of the National Alliance. And the purpose of the meeting was to promote Resistance Records, let people know that William Pierce was the—was the new owner of it—he bought it from Willis Carto—and also to gain readerdom, gain more customers and get distributors for Resistance Records. And Mair was one of the people invited to the meeting. There were about maybe 17 or 18 people at that meeting. And it took place just off of the Strand in London in the spring of 2000. And as I said, he attended the meeting along with Stevie Cartwright, Richard Barnbrook, Nick Griffin, who was sort of like the David Duke of England at that time, and several other people who were either members of the National Alliance or supporters of the NA.

JUAN GONZÁLEZ: Now, why were you at that meeting representing Mr. Pierce?

TODD BLODGETT: Well, of course, Pierce did not know that I had agreed to work for the bureau at that point. And he wanted to go over to England—

AMY GOODMAN: For the FBI.

TODD BLODGETT: For—yeah, for the FBI, that’s correct. He, himself, wanted to go, but he was precluded by law from being able to go there, due to the fact that he couldn’t get in. I mean, his views kept him out of—out of England, so he sent me in his stead, because he and I were the co-owners of Resistance Records at that time. And when I began with the FBI, I told them about what Pierce wanted to do. And right away, they said, "Well, we’re going to accompany you." So, the day before I arrived in London, two FBI agents, an IRS agent and a JTTF agent—that would be the Joint Terrorism Task Force—flew in ahead of me, and they had me meet with the two people, two guys, from the MI5. They gave me a cellphone to use when I was there and that kind of thing. So, that’s how it all worked out.

AMY GOODMAN: Why did you decide to work for the FBI? I mean, were you a neo-Nazi true believer?

TODD BLODGETT: I was never a true believer. I was never a Holocaust denier. I’m not a bigot or a racist or anything. I was basically—I guess the best way to say it is I was—I was greedy. I was an opportunistic profiteer. I didn’t look at the consequences to myself or to others of what I was doing. And I never wanted to be a Resistance Records shareholder, but Willis Carto of Liberty Lobby owed me money. And when he went bankrupt, he—when Liberty Lobby went bankrupt, they gave me stock in Resistance Records in lieu of that, and that’s how I became a co-owner.

What had happened with regard to Pierce was, is that after the deal was signed with Pierce and he gave me a consulting contract he insisted I take as part of my stock sale—he wouldn’t buy the shares without it—we went to a place called the University Club of D.C. The Washington Post got a hold of the article, and it caused a big uproar there, and I was expelled from the club. I was given the option to resign or be expelled. I was expelled. And basically, that’s when the FBI caught notice of this, and the agents came to my office in downtown D.C., and they said, "Look, we’re not after you, but we know you’ve worked with all these people—Willis Carto, Pierce, David Duke—all the head honchos among the racist right, as a profiteer. Will you help us?" And that’s when I agreed to—I agreed to go on as a paid informant.

JUAN GONZÁLEZ: Now, this meeting that occurred in 2000 in—I think it was in Leeds in England, these were some of the top neo-Nazi or white supremacist leaders in England. What kind of interaction did you have with Thomas Mair? And what impression did you take away from him at that meeting?

TODD BLODGETT: Well, first of all, the meeting was actually in downtown London, not Leeds, but there were several people from the Leeds chapter at this meeting. And I—as far as Thomas Mair, I would say that most people describe him—he was kind of like a working-class guy, but very well read. I mean, he was discussing a book or two that he had read by David Irving, the Holocaust-denying pseudohistorian, who I also monitored. He would probably—I guess the best way to describe him is just nondescript, well mannered. When you go to a meeting like this, any kind of gathering, the guys—they’re always all guys—there’s a lot of bravado, a lot of macho, a lot of braggadocio going on. People talk about who they beat up last week and how they took on six guys and kicked their butt. They brag about their womanizing. Mair was none of those. He didn’t do any of that. He got—he came by himself. He actually left by himself. As he got there, he was respected by the people that were there. He knew some. They knew him by name. He was not an outgoing guy. If you were to ask me at the end of that meeting, say, a wall of guys there, who would have been the least likely to even start a fistfight, I would have said Tommy Mair.

AMY GOODMAN: According to British media reports, Thomas Mair, or Tommy Mair, as you call him, was a subscriber to the pro-apartheid magazine, South African Patriot in Exile.

TODD BLODGETT: I read that.

AMY GOODMAN: This week, the Southern Poverty Law Center published two letters that Mair wrote to editors of the magazine. In 1999, Thomas Mair wrote, quote, "I was glad you strongly condemned 'collaborators' in the White South African population. In my opinion the greatest enemy of the old Apartheid system was not the African National Congress and the Black masses but White liberals and traitors." And then, in a 1991 letter to the publication, Mair wrote, quote, "The nationalist movement in the U.K. also continues to fight on against the odds. ... Despite everything I still have faith that the White Race will prevail, both in Britain and in South Africa, but I fear that it’s going to be a very long and very bloody struggle." Those the words of Thomas Mair. Todd Blodgett, what was your reaction when you heard who was the man who murdered the Labour MP, Jo Cox?

TODD BLODGETT: When I first saw his picture, and I recognized him right off, when I first heard his name, I remembered it, you know, my first reaction was, gosh, I mean, this is—aside from the fact it’s a horrible thing, I thought, you know, this wasn’t the kind of guy I would have picked out to do that. I would have thought someone like Stevie Cartwright or someone would be more likely to do that. They were the more—you know, the more brutal types. But then I realized a lot of people that I monitored, which included a guy named Wade Page, who did a similar thing—he went into a—I think it was a Hindu temple in Wisconsin, and killed a bunch of people about three years ago—sometimes it’s those very kind of guys that are the most lethal, which is why Tommy Mair and people like him represent such a huge challenge to MI5 and the FBI and other law enforcement, because they can be dormant for many years. They can be on the radar, then they go off the radar. They’re the kind that—you know, they’re not the kind that—Tommy Mair was not the kind of guy you’d pick out to start a fight in a bar. He was not like a tough kind of guy. He didn’t pose as a tough guy. He just basically was a nondescript kind of guy. And I thought, you know, obviously he is not—his hatred has not changed. He just found an outlet for it, and he finally decided to try to go out in a blaze of glory. And that’s—that was my reaction.


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Re: Murder of UK MP Jo Cox

Postby American Dream » Thu Jun 23, 2016 8:02 am

Here Are the Letters Thomas Mair Published in a Pro-Apartheid Magazine


In another letter, this one from 1991, Mair wrote: “The nationalist movement in the U.K. also continues to fight on against the odds. … Despite everything I still have faith that the White Race will prevail, both in Britain and in South Africa, but I fear that it’s going to be a very long and very bloody struggle.”




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Re: Murder of UK MP Jo Cox

Postby Searcher08 » Thu Jun 23, 2016 8:57 am

I find it incredulous that MI5 did not have this guy under active surveillance. Someone who ordered 'build your own gun' blueprints from abroad; who was associated with the ultra right; who was obviously suffering from severe mental illness.

I wonder if he had a (SSRI?) medication change in the weeks leading up to the murder?
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Re: Murder of UK MP Jo Cox

Postby stefano » Thu Jun 23, 2016 9:27 am

Thought this was interesting:

Syria's White Helmets award Jo Cox with highest honour

Murdered British MP is given her own white helmet for advocacy of Syrian people as volunteer rescue group calls her 'a true friend'
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As part of the remembrance - which was to include speeches from members of her family and Nobel Peace Prize winner Malala Yousafzai - the White Helmets, the Syrian volunteer rescue group, awarded Cox its highest honour in recognition of her work to protect civilians amid Syria's civil war.

“Jo Cox was a true friend to the White Helmets and someone who constantly advocated for the Syrian people," Farouq al-Habib, spokesperson for the White Helmets, told MEE.
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Raed Saleh, head of the White Helmets and featured in the organisation's video about Cox, flew from Syria to present a symbolic "white helmet" to Cox's family in Trafalgar Square.

The award, normally reserved for volunteers who have lost their lives rescuing civilians in Syria, has never been given to a non-White Helmet.
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The White Helmets are one of three causes that Cox's friends and family have featured on a crowdfunding page that has raised more than £1.2m since last Friday.

The money raised will go towards a "hero fund," which supports injured members of the White Helmets and the families of 120 members who have been killed so far.

Since its formation in 2013, the White Helmets have grown to about 3,000 volunteers across Syria, providing basic public services including electricity, fire-fighting and building repairs to a population of 7 million civilians.


The White Helmets are chiefly, if not wholly, a UK Foreign Office operation. Cox doesn't seem to have actually been involved with that - she did speak against Assad's government's atrocities in Parliament, though, and her memorial service must just have been too good an opportunity to pass up. As was the chance to make people who sympathise with Cox crowdfund an FCO op - how ghoulish is that.

On edit - of course there's a donate button right at the top of the White Helmets website, it's always been how they operate.
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Re: Murder of UK MP Jo Cox

Postby American Dream » Thu Jun 23, 2016 10:10 am

Cox’s compassion for refugees

Jo Cox was involved with numerous organisations trying to help refugees. She also backed the recent amendment by Alf Dubs (who himself was a refugee child, brought to Britain prior to WW2 by Nicholas Winton’s Kindertransport) for the UK to accept 3,000 child refugees. She said:

We all know that the vast majority of the terrified, friendless and profoundly vulnerable child refugees scattered across Europe tonight came from Syria. We also know that, as that conflict enters its sixth barbaric year, desperate Syrian families are being forced to make an impossible decision: stay and face starvation, rape, persecution and death, or make a perilous journey to find sanctuary elsewhere. Who can blame desperate parents for wanting to escape the horror that their families are experiencing? Children are being killed on their way to school, children as young as seven are being forcefully recruited to the frontline and one in three children have grown up knowing nothing but fear and war. Those children have been exposed to things no child should ever witness, and I know I would risk life and limb to get my two precious babies out of that hellhole.


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Re: Murder of UK MP Jo Cox

Postby coffin_dodger » Thu Jun 23, 2016 10:25 am

I wonder why Jo Cox abstained from the vote to bomb Syria in 2015.
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Re: Murder of UK MP Jo Cox

Postby American Dream » Thu Jun 23, 2016 11:24 am

We may be getting closer here to the circle that could/would/did support this brutal murder:


S.A. Patriot was the publication of a pro-white, global leadership and racial segregationists club. Mair’s name is confirmed in a bulletin uploaded to a blog (see image below).


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According to an S.A. Patriot founder… “The [Springbok] Club is one of the most controversial organisations in the UK’s South African community. It’s a union of several different outfits, some long-gone, including the Empire Loyalist Club, the White Rhino Club and the Rhodesian Forum. The twenty people gathered here tonight (and there are more visitors than members) are highly opposed to the ANC, and long for the return of what they call “civilised rule” to South Africa.”

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Yesterday’s hate-filled anti-Europe Daily Mail

Further information shows that Springbok had a political split, resulting in the formation of the ‘Swinton Circle’. Swinton are anti-Europe, which appears to be their main campaign focus. For a list of their objectives, click here. Swinton are also actively involved in Pegida, attending demonstrations and meetings with other far-right organisations. See http://www.sprxngbk.xrg.xk/lsc5.htm In February 2016 the Swinton Circle was contacted by Pegida UK and asked to support their “Silent Walk” in Birmingham in protest against increasing Islamisation throughout Europe. A number of Swinton Circle supporters took part in this event as a result of this request. In November 2015, Swinton Circle members gave their support to a special event organized by the Springbok Club in order to celebrate the 50th anniversary of Rhodesian UDI.

Note that S.A. Patriot backed Clive Derby-Lewis, who “served a life sentence for his role in the assassination of South African Communist Party leader Chris Hani. He has been described as a “right-wing extremist” by the Daily Telegraph; and as someone who “even by South African standards…has acquired over the years a reputation as a rabid racist”.



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Re: Murder of UK MP Jo Cox

Postby American Dream » Thu Jun 23, 2016 4:40 pm

Also:

Britain First have been holding an ‘activist training camp’ in the Welsh mountains

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Members of Britain First pose in front of Dolbadarn Castle

Members of Britain First have been in the Welsh mountains holding what they described as an “activist training camp”.

A dozen people took part in the camp in the mountains of Snowdonia, where they said they learned things including self-defence, martial arts, knife defence, survival techniques, rough camping and mountain climbing.

Describing their “knife defence” class, they wrote: “Knife defence and self defence is crucial to keeping our activists safe. Knives are prevalent in our society. We never want trouble but we refuse to leave our activists exposed.”

A picture alongside the post showed a man holding what appeared to be a wooden ruler.

Photos of the event were uploaded to Facebook which showed the group eating sausages, Pringles, tinned spaghetti and drinking Lucozade around the campfire.

They even had time to enjoy a visit to Dolbadarn Castle to round off a weekend described as full of “camaraderie”.

Britain First describes itself as a “loyalist” movement, with members who are “loyal to Queen and country” welcome to join.

It regularly posts Islamophobic sentiments to its Facebook page.

The group has courted controversy in the past expressing views against immigration and facing accusations of racism, which they deny.

While their post got thousands of likes from supporters, there were plenty who found it funny. One wrote: “Self defence from wooden rulers followed by a very British Pot Noodle dinner.”


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Re: Murder of UK MP Jo Cox

Postby slimmouse » Thu Jun 23, 2016 4:42 pm

When is the fix actually in? ........ Err I mean vote lol.
We need to remember that the oligarchic Psycopaths, who despise every last poster on this board, have already ensured countless re-votes ( I remember Portugal and Ireland) to ensure that their NWO comes to fruition.
Oh, and What exactly are these people on?

I look at the likes of Bonesman and ex former presidential candidate john kerry for example, still putting a shift in to ensure the rest of us are enslaved in debt and engulfed in war forever Amen.

Edited to add, that I hold these people above ultimately responsible for the murder of this woman.

Its the age old lesson - know youre real enemy.
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Re: Murder of UK MP Jo Cox

Postby Sounder » Thu Jun 23, 2016 6:56 pm

I agree searcher08, facilitation is all that ‘intelligence’ folk need to provide.


It’s all quite simple really. There is money to be made in destabilizing countries so as to produce a re-pricing of assets. The old note holders still owe for their ‘assets’ while new money gets to buy up assets at a discount. The White Helmet guys get a double salary being medics by day and Al-Nusra fighters by night. “Terrorists’ get paid well to kill, while the ‘lumpen proletariat’, all us folk that do the trades, or less formal work to at least be able to get by, get taxed to the hilt to pay for this evil.

Of course The White Helmets, Avazz and their type seek ‘public’ donations as it emotionally ties its victims to supporting a thing that is not actually interested in promoting human dignity. Quite the opposite actually, and the useful idiots (hat tip to Stalin) are needed to drive the hate breeding narratives.

So for instance, while immigration is good, it is not good for several million traumatized individuals to be sent to the EU, as they have no choice but flee from the well paid terrorists.

So now the ‘not good’ sponsors of this fleeing from the effects of neo-liberal realists mayhem, gin up loads of propaganda suggesting that the victims on both sides need to fight each other.

Abolish the private issuance of money and quite a few of our ‘problems’ would become more manageable.
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Re: Murder of UK MP Jo Cox

Postby American Dream » Thu Jun 23, 2016 7:16 pm

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An Attack on Democracy Itself: UK Opposition Leader Jeremy Corbyn Pays Tribute to Murdered MP Jo Cox

Britain is continuing to mourn the murder of British Labour MP Jo Cox, who was stabbed and shot to death Thursday after she met constituents in her district. Cox’s death came just a week before the major Brexit referendum, when British voters will decide whether the country should exit the European Union. Her murderer, Thomas Mair, reportedly yelled out “Britain First” during the attack—a reference to the far-right, anti-immigrant political party of the same name which is pushing for Britain to leave the EU. In a special session of Parliament on Monday, lawmakers convened to pay tribute to their slain colleague. The session was led by Prime Minister David Cameron and opposition leader Jeremy Corbyn, head of the Labour Party. Shortly after the parliamentary session ended, Democracy Now! spoke with Jeremy Corbyn.

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AMY GOODMAN: Britain is continuing to mourn the murder of British Labour MP Jo Cox, who was stabbed and shot to death Thursday after she met constituents in her district. Cox’s death came just a week before the major Brexit referendum, when British voters will decide whether the country should exit from the European Union. In a special session of the British Parliament Monday, lawmakers convened to pay tribute to their slain colleague. The session was led by Prime Minister David Cameron and opposition leader Jeremy Corbyn, head of the Labour Party, who praised Cox for her work to help Syrian refugees.

JEREMY CORBYN: Jo Cox didn’t just believe in loving her neighbor, she believed in loving her neighbor’s neighbor. She saw a world of neighbors. She believed every life counted equally. ... And in her tragic death, we can come together to change our politics, to tolerate a little more and condemn a little less.

AMY GOODMAN: Jo Cox’s murderer, Thomas Mair, reportedly yelled out "Britain First" during the attack. It was a reference to the far-right, anti-immigrant political party of the same name, which is pushing for Britain to leave the European Union. The Southern Poverty Law Center in the United States revealed Mair is a longtime supporter of the neo-Nazi National Alliance and that he attended a 2000 meeting of British white supremacists organized by a man who was actually an FBI informant. In court on Friday, Mair gave his name as "Death to traitors, freedom for Britain."

Jo Cox was a 41-year-old mother of two who worked at Oxfam before being elected as a Labour MP last year. She was known for her passionate support for Syrian refugees and was a member of Labour Friends of Palestine. Cox was a vocal advocate for Britain to stay in the European Union. On Thursday, British voters will go to the polls in this historic Brexit referendum to decide whether to leave or remain in the EU.

Well, late yesterday, on Monday, I had a chance to speak with British opposition leader Jeremy Corbyn shortly after he led the tribute to Cox in the Parliament. I began by asking Jeremy Corbyn to talk about Jo Cox.

JEREMY CORBYN: Jo Cox was a Labour member of the British Parliament. She represented Batley and Spen, which is a working-class community in the north of England in Yorkshire near Leeds. She was elected a year ago. She comes from that area. But also in her life, she had worked for anti-slavery campaigns for Oxfam, and she had been active on human rights issues in many countries.

And she was shot and stabbed in the street. A retired miner rushed to try and aid her, and he, too, was stabbed. He, fortunately, appears to be making a recovery in hospital. Jo died a short time later. And everybody is shocked and in mourning. I went to the town the following day, and people were just in complete grief and shock, because they had lost their MP, but also because it’s an attack on democracy itself. If you murder an elected representative of the people doing their job, then, in effect, you’re saying, "We’re going to stop them doing that job, because we’re going to kill them."
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Re: Murder of UK MP Jo Cox

Postby Sounder » Fri Jun 24, 2016 7:09 am

Abolish the private issuance of money and quite a few of our ‘problems’ would become more manageable.


'Centralizers' seem to have a hard time understanding this point.
All these things will continue as long as coercion remains a central element of our mentality.
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