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Re: Market Crash Watch Party

Postby Wombaticus Rex » Thu Dec 16, 2021 10:42 am



Highly recommend the Cormac McCarthy investment treatise The Counselor prior to any engagement with, or exposure to, that booming market segment.

drstrangelove » Wed Dec 15, 2021 8:12 pm wrote:I'm not great with microeconomics. While ETFs amplify the velocity at which a certain market index gains, wouldn't it slow down the rate at which it crashes? Or do they mix debt securities into the ETF capital as an escape hatch or something if an entire index goes bust? Or do they just move all the capital into a new ETF?


They would absolutely act as a brake at first, especially at the price discovery level, because what happens is a bottleneck effect: precisely when everyone wants out at once, ETF holders are last in line to exit the structure fire. But the pace of markets is relentless: the next morning's open would find the same offers languishing and that would trigger a price spiral again, no matter how little liquidity / interest there is.

And ETF holders aren't the only players in the market, mind: there are thousands of other funds who are in the same tricky web of obligations, and they would absolutely take the other side of those trades, second after second, until someone pulls the switch to stop it.

Which is pretty much the only option from there: sweeping trading halts; and I think we will live to see that precise last-ditch effort employed when the music starts winding down.

Even that would only be delaying the inevitable, though. Big money wants their fire sale and dumb money is spooked. It only ends one way from there. The eternal question, of course, is timing that, and no man knows the day or the hour.

Ol' Soros would very much like to suss the timing out by pushing the US economy off the cliff himself, of course. I was arguing with some paleo/quantum conservative friends about his nefarious reach and aims a few days back, and like to so many partisan divides, their position felt like the whiteboard-workshopped polar opposite of their equally wrong opposition ... Muppets minus the band, and me playing both Statler and Waldorf.

Soros has no interest in establishing UN finance communism in America just like he has no interest in social justice or racial equity or reforming the judicial system: he wants to fuck the USD like he fucked the GBP in '92, only far harder and with vastly more leverage.

Imagine making trillions of legal and contractually undeniable income in a single week? I can hardly blame the man for his Ahab monomania.
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Re: Market Crash Watch Party

Postby Elvis » Thu Dec 16, 2021 8:47 pm

Iamwhomiam wrote:The Federal Budget in Fiscal Year 2020: An Infographic
April 30, 2021Graphic
The federal deficit in 2020 was $3.1 trillion, equal to 14.9 percent of gross domestic product.
https://www.cbo.gov/publication/57170


Here's why the CBO analyses are highly flawed and should mostly be ignored—from 2014, still applies:

https://neweconomicperspectives.org/201 ... years.html

CBO—Still Out of Paradigm after All These Years
Posted on July 20, 2014 by Scott Fullwiler | 22 Comments

By Scott Fullwiler

The Congressional Budget Office (CBO) published its long-term deficit and national debt projections last week. These are the projections most widely cited in policy discussions about long-term “sustainability” of the national debt and entitlement programs. In this post I focus on a small but very important part of the report—the CBO’s discussion of the “Consequences of a Large and Growing Debt,” which can be found on pages 13-15. This section can be found in past reports going back several years, and hasn’t change much if it has changed at all during this time. It is also consistent with the thinking of most economists on these issues. As readers of this blog will recognize, the CBO’s analysis is “out of paradigm” in that it is inapplicable to a sovereign, currency-currency issuing government operating under flexible exchange rates such as the US, Japan, Canada, UK, Australia, etc.

CBO presents four consequences of a large and growing national debt. I discuss each in turn.

1. Less National Saving and Future Income–Large federal budget deficits over the long term would reduce investment, resulting in lower national income and higher interest rates than would otherwise occur. Increased government borrowing would cause a larger share of the savings potentially available for investment to be used for purchasing government securities, such as Treasury bonds. Those purchases would crowd out investment in capital goods—factories and computers, for example—which makes workers more productive.


This would be laughable if it weren’t for the fact that most economists believe it and the dangers of following policy based on such a belief. The analysis is based on the loanable funds market—which DOES NOT EXIST in the real world.* In reality, the funds that banks lend are created out of thin air, not constrained by saving, the flow of deposits, or fractional reserve requirements. Even a 100% requirement changes nothing as long as the central bank is targeting the interbank rate that sets the banks’ cost of funds. More reserves are always forthcoming via open market operations if the interbank rate starts to move above the central bank’s target, so there is no rise in interest rates of the sort that the loanable funds model supposes.

So there is no threat to funding available for private investment in capital goods, and no threat to the growth rate of future national income. CBO’s analysis is simply inconsistent with how the modern financial system actually works. (My post here from 2012 described the process of bank lending. For more detailed analysis of the interaction of banks and central banks, see here, here, here, and here.)

As an aside, consistent with neoclassical theory in which factors of production receive their marginal product, CBO writes that “because wages are determined mainly by workers’ productivity, the reduction in investment would reduce wages as well [since the investment is driving productivity of workers in CBO’s analysis], lessening people’s incentive to work.” Wow. Apparently CBO hasn’t noticed that (a) wages and productivity have diverged for the past 40 years, with productivity far outstripping wage growth, and (b) low wages haven’t lessened the incentive to work at all (if they did, US workers should be working far less than there French and German counterparts while the opposite is true). Three words—Cambridge Capital Controversies, which neoclassicals still haven’t actually bothered to understand. Instead they hide behind a theory that suggests CEOs making exponentially more than the average worker somehow “deserve” this excessive pay even as anyone that bothers to look can see that these same CEOs have led the private sector to far slower growth rates of productivity than we saw in the 1950s and 1960s when the ratio of CEO pay to worker pay was far smaller. But I digress. (And apologies for the rather simplistic analysis here—I realize there’s much more going on with wages—but again, this isn’t the main point of the post.)

2. Pressure for Larger Tax Increases or Spending Cuts in the Future— When the federal debt is large, the government ordinarily must make substantial interest payments to its lenders, and growth in the debt causes those interest payments to increase. (Net interest payments are currently fairly small relative to the size of the economy because interest rates are exceptionally low, but CBO anticipates that those payments will increase considerably as interest rates return to more typical levels.)


In other words, when interest rates rise, they will take up a larger percentage of the government’s outlays, increasing the likelihood of future large deficits unless spending is cut or taxes are raised. Similarly, a desire to raise spending or cut taxes in the future will be thwarted by projections of even larger deficits and require still greater cuts or taxes elsewhere. CBO wants us to believe that it is just trying to protect us from the difficult political decisions this would bring.

In some ways this is a legitimate point, but I would say it differently. Any increase in the government’s deficit can result in greater aggregate spending on existing productive capacity, so if the government is sending more interest to bond holders, ceteris paribus, this is creating the potential for inflation. However, the issue here isn’t the larger deficits as much as it is the larger deficits relative to the inflation threat. But CBO presents us with no analysis of the future inflation threat of rising debt service—in fact, its long-term analysis assumes both an economy at full employment beginning a few years from now and very modest inflation throughout even with the larger deficit and debt service projections. In other words, the real danger of rising debt service or rising government deficits in general (aside from the obvious potential misallocation of the government’s spending) is assumed away by CBO from the start.

Furthermore, rising debt service for a currency-issuer under flexible exchange rates like the US is a monetary policy variable, as I explained here and here. If rising debt service is pushing the government’s deficit too high, CBO should explain to us why an inflation-targeting central bank is raising the risk of inflation by raising the government’s debt service.

In any case, an economy reaching the point at which a central bank running a Taylor Rule type of interest rate targeting strategy will raise rates should also be precisely when the government is experiencing fairly rapidly declining primary deficits (the deficit aside from debt service)–which is the case in the US’s history—and probably shouldn’t be entertaining thoughts of increasing deficits at that point if low and stable inflation is a serious policy goal. In most other cases, the central bank shouldn’t be raising rates and the government should be increasing its deficit. CBO’s assumption of continuous full employment and low inflation mistakenly abstracts from the fact that the real world economy is always in the midst of some stage of a business cycle.

3. Reduced Ability to Respond to Domestic and International Problems–When the amount of outstanding debt is relatively small, a government can borrow money to address significant unexpected events—recessions, financial crises, or wars, for example. In contrast, when outstanding debt is large, a government has less flexibility to address financial and economic crises—a very costly circumstance for many countries. A large amount of debt also can compromise a country’s national security by constraining military spending in times of international crisis or by limiting the country’s ability to prepare for such a crisis.


This one’s pretty amazing—seriously, how can someone actually believe this stuff? First off, as we know, government’s that issue their own currencies don’t need to borrow back their own money. Second, even if you do think so, as above, the interest rate on this increase in the national debt is a monetary policy variable, not one that is set by markets. There is no danger of a currency issuing government not being able to finance its deficits in a time of crisis. And we know that times of war and financial crisis are in particular the times at which safe, default-risk free government debt is at its lowest rate of interest relative to the debt of non-currency issuers. Third, such crises are also the points at which the central bank typically has its policy rate—and by extension interest rates on the national debt—set at its lowest. In fact, it is the private sector that experiences such problems in these times, not the currency-issuing governments—just look back to how private credit markets responded to the global financial crisis of 2008-2009 for the most recent example.

The second part of CBO’s rationale here is even more ridiculous—did they not notice that times of war and financial crisis have been the times of most of the largest increases in the US national debt? Indeed, the real danger is that in a time of such crisis policy makers will actually believe analysis like CBO’s here. Thankfully, during WWII they didn’t. They didn’t listen after September 11, 2001. And they didn’t listen in 2008 (TARP) or 2009 (Obama stimulus—though the CBO-types did in fact keep the Obama stimulus insufficiently small, not that I was necessarily in favor of many of the spending priorities in the bill). And in every case of policy makers not listening, interest rates remained low while the government ran the deficits it wanted to run.

4. Greater Chance of a Fiscal Crisis—A large and continuously growing federal debt would have another significant negative consequence: It would increase the likelihood of a fiscal crisis in the United States. Specifically, there would be a greater risk that investors would become unwilling to finance the government’s borrowing needs unless they were compensated with very high interest rates and, as a result, interest rates on federal debt would rise suddenly and sharply relative to rates of return on other assets. That increase in interest rates would reduce the market value of outstanding government bonds, causing losses for investors and perhaps precipitating a broader financial crisis by creating losses for mutual funds, pension funds, insurance companies, banks, and other holders of government debt—losses that might be large enough to cause some financial institutions to fail. Unfortunately, there is no way to predict with any confidence whether or when such a fiscal crisis might occur in the United States. In particular, there is no identifiable tipping point in the debt-to-GDP ratio to indicate that a crisis is likely or imminent. All else being equal, however, the larger a government’s debt, the greater the risk of a fiscal crisis.


Here we see the “US could become Greece” argument, with “we can’t say when it could become Greece, but we don’t want to find out!” added on. In fact, the CBO in the footnotes links to its 2010 report, “Federal Debt and the Risk of a Fiscal Crisis” (in which it makes the same four points as here, by the way, regarding the consequences of large and rising debt), which analyzes recent fiscal crises in Argentina, Ireland, and Greece and then considers how their difficulties dealing with rising interest rates on the national debt, diminished access to financial markets, etc., could harm the US economy.

Again, though, a currency-issuing government under flexible exchange rates can’t have such crises because it doesn’t need to borrow its money; interest rates on its debt are a monetary policy variable. The doomsayers have been at this for decades now, but have not explained why the US, UK, and Japan ran continually large deficits starting in 2008 at low interest rates while Greece, Spain, Italy, etc., could not. Their only response is, “Just wait! This time is NOT different!” At least CBO doesn’t fall into the typical trap of citing the Reinhart/Rogoff paper on “tipping points,” which has been discredited (see here and here as well). CBO simply notes here that as of yet “there is no identifiable tipping point”—this is true of course, since there isn’t a tipping point at all if it’s your own currency and you have the ability to set the interest rate on it. At some point one would think the “US could become Greece” argument would be widely recognized as fraudulent, but if you’re in the wrong paradigm it’s difficult to accept even a simple explanation of why the paradigm is wrong.

In the end, what we see from these four points made by CBO is that the real danger to policymakers isn’t large deficits and debt. The real danger is that they will pay attention to analysis done of large deficits and debt by CBO and others like it—such as most economists—and unfortunately they are all paying attention and echoing this same sort of analysis. And here we all sit in a six year trough relative to potential GDP, continued high unemployment (particularly if you include underemployment, etc.) and low participation rates, and with even fairly decent job creation that however is focused on the low-wage end compared to previous recoveries (see here). And this isn’t even to mention the Eurozone nations that are still in depression states.



* Re the money multiplier/fractional reserve lending: unlike CBO, the Fed is catching on; see: "Teaching the Linkage Between Banks and the Fed: R.I.P. Money Multiplier" https://research.stlouisfed.org/publica ... multiplier

Iamwhomiam wrote:U.S. Federal Budget Breakdown
Learn the budget's components and its impact on the U.S. economy

BY KIMBERLY AMADEO
Updated December 07, 2021

[...] ~ https://www.thebalance.com/u-s-federal- ... wn-3305789


The explanation here was passable until this:

How the Deficit Contributes to the National Debt

Each year, the deficit adds to the U.S. debt. To raise funds to cover the deficit, the government issues securities such as Treasury notes, which are purchased by many investors. Japan and China are two countries whose governments have purchased large amounts of U.S. debt, in a manner of speaking "owning" U.S. debt.9

An anticipated budget deficit can slow economic growth. It influences rising interest rates, as investors demand more return. Eventually, investors may become hesitant to purchase Treasury notes because they fear the U.S. government may not be able to repay the debt.


Those two bolded things:

A) The government doesn't really sell securities to raise funds to spend—the government sells securities to drain & balance bank reserves, and set an interest rate floor. (Maybe that's what they mean by "cover the deficit"—but no, they mean "pay for it.") As I understand it, the reasoning goes that before 2008, if the govt didn't drain off bank reserves when it was adding reserves (via Congressional appropriations), banks would have too many excess reserves and so the interest rate would fall to zero (and the sky would fall, world would end, etc.). But since 2008, the Fed keeps banks flush with reserves, and pays banks interest on reserves; that regime pretty much obviates the need for the government to sell securities at all! And the interest rate is zero. Warren Mosler and others have said we should allow the Fed (not the Treasury) to sell bonds for monetary policy purposes—which is the real reason for selling them in the first place (Australia does this now, though partly for the wrong reason). Also, the non-government side loves Treasury securities. And why wouldn't they?

B) This bit is kind of covered in the article above about the CBO, and is based on the crippled starting assumption that the "government may not be able to repay the debt." The dreaded (imaginary?) bond vigilantes have no pull in this setup. Federal budget deficits seem to increase growth; US federal spending accounts for something like 25% of GDP.


BTW that forum website, neweconomicperspectives.org, is closed for further business but remains online as an invaluable resource, a wealth of knowledge and (imo) spot-on analysis.
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Re: Market Crash Watch Party

Postby Elvis » Thu Dec 16, 2021 9:23 pm

U.S. Federal Budget Breakdown
Learn the budget's components and its impact on the U.S. economy

BY KIMBERLY AMADEO
Updated December 07, 2021

[...] ~ https://www.thebalance.com/u-s-federal- ... wn-3305789


Note that a key source listed for that U.S. Federal Budget Breakdown page is the Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget (CRFB), a conservative Chicken Little outfit, always wringing their hands over federal deficits, and claiming to be "non-partisan" (as NPR hosts point out every time) when they're clearly right-leaning budget hawks repeating economic myths and lies to further their laissez faire political aims.
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Re: Market Crash Watch Party

Postby drstrangelove » Thu Dec 16, 2021 10:16 pm

Elvis » Thu Dec 16, 2021 8:47 pm wrote:This bit is kind of covered in the article above about the CBO, and is based on the crippled starting assumption that the "government may not be able to repay the debt." The dreaded (imaginary?) bond vigilantes have no pull in this setup. Federal budget deficits seem to increase growth; US federal spending accounts for something like 25% of GDP..

Well if you accept the debt doesn't need to be paid off, then you accept that it needs to be perpetually serviced with more debt. The inflationary effects of this can only be contained through perpetual growth. Of course, all things growing only grow towards death. Real growth is not perpetual, it eventually becomes synthetic growth. Synthetic growth is not perpetual either, it becomes dillution and pollution of the human needs growth is meant to service. The shift from one to the other is the extent to which the quality of a good or service is supplemented for the quantity of it. You can make 100 glasses of orange juice out of 1 by watering it down, but at a certain point it is no longer substantively orange juice regardless of what you call it.

If growth is good, and should only be symbolised as a quantitative metric, then cancer is good too. As that's what we have, a cancer economy trying to soak up all the inflation caused by government and corporate debt.

The debt is unsustainable because the means through which inflation is tapered is unsustainable. Actually it's not just unsustainable, it's beyond that because it no longer works at all. We are past the point of diminishing returns. So the Fed now measures inflation using openly fraudulent calculations to reduce it symbolically.

So we got GDP measuring the total synthetic growth of the goods and services economy being measured against a rate of inflation being quantified only in selective parts of the price economy.

The only way out is a currency reset. Which is why the Fed is sitting on its hands.
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Re: Market Crash Watch Party

Postby Elvis » Fri Dec 17, 2021 6:19 pm

drstrangelove wrote:Well if you accept the debt doesn't need to be paid off, then you accept that it needs to be perpetually serviced with more debt.


Again, "the debt" is regularly, constantly paid off, by simply returning the dollars held in the bond account to a reserve account (and on to the holder's bank account). Every month hundreds of billions of maturing Treasuries are paid off this way; the process is automatic and nobody has to cough up money from somewhere else to pay it. Servicing the interest with more bond issue works the same way; the real question there is, how much essentially free money do we want to give to people who are already rich?

Despite what you may hear, the government doesn't sell bonds because it needs the money. It sells bonds to drain bank reserves in order to make "fiscal room" for new spending (via fiat issue), which adds the same amount of reserves to the banking system. Without the reserve drain, banks would overflow with excess reserves the interest rate would fall to zero. Selling matching bonds as a requirement for deficit spending also helps maintain the illusion that the government is "borrowing" money it needs for spending.

Now that the Fed pays banks interest on reserves, keeps banks flush with reserves, and the interest rate is effectively zero, the reserve drain function of government securities is kind of moot. We don't really need to sell bonds for financing (let the central bank issue securities for monetary policy), but as I mentioned before, they serve a purpose of providing a safe place to park large dollar sums.

The late-'90s budget surpluses meant that new Treasury bond offerings were sharply cut off—and where did that money go looking for safety?—it rushed to the "AAA" rated toxic mortgage bonds cooked up by Goldman Sachs and the other big banks. (I think Goldman planned this from the start, beginning with Robert Rubin at Treasury urging the "balanced budget" mantra + financial deregulation, which he knew would stifle issue of Treasuries, thereby creating a market for the fraudulent mortgage bonds. Another Goldman alumnus, Henry Paulson, came on later as Treasury Sec. to coax the process along, and later to help with the inevitable bailout plan.)


drstrangelove wrote:If growth is good, and should only be symbolised as a quantitative metric, then cancer is good too.


I can agree that the current GDP metric is not very useful, but if society has needs (check), and resources exist to meet those needs (check), then filling those needs may necessarily lead to a rise in GDP output. Rebuilding infrastructure, for example, will increase GDP. Some reorganization of resources, however, despite involving large federal outlays, may result in deflation—e.g. introducing a single-payer healthcare system in the US would be deflationary because all the wasted resources, devoted to serving the bloated bureaucracies of private insurance, would be idled (and need to be redirected). As Mosler says, "They could be curing cancer."


drstrangelove wrote:The debt is unsustainable because the means through which inflation is tapered is unsustainable.


I just don't see the unsustainability in the practice of the government selling bonds in order to balance bank reserves and set an interest rate floor. To repeat the words of Frank Newman:

I even try to avoid using the expression “borrow” when the Treasury issues securities; the Treasury is
providing an opportunity for investors to move funds from risky banks to safe and liquid Treasuries.


See page 2 of this thread for scans from one of Newman's books on the topic. He explains exactly why the handwringing over "the debt" is highly overwrought, in fact it's needless.

I'm not sure which "means through which inflation is tapered" you mean, so I won't address that now. Suffice to say that inflation is complicated phenomena and in each case the roots of it must be identified and dealt with accordingly; there's no single prescription that works for every case. Inflation usually starts with a shortage and consequent price rise of some commodity, and then spreads—kinda like a virus, eh?—to the broader price level.

Here's a good article about how "money growth accompanies inflation, but it does not cause it."...

https://www.forbes.com/sites/johntharve ... 8ba707f9a9

...(if it stays at that link; Forbes recently replaced an earlier piece on inflation by John Harvey—still linked in his article above—with a different article by a different writer).


drstrangelove wrote:So we got GDP measuring the total synthetic growth of the goods and services economy being measured against a rate of inflation being quantified only in selective parts of the price economy.


I'm seeing the problem as the unproductive "goods and services" of the financial industry—derivative "financial products" and associated management—make up a substantial and growing part of US "output" i.e. GDP. Warren Mosler estimates that easily 25% of GDP is "financial sector waste" and could be eliminated. He says another 25% of the GDP goes to things like "compliance costs"—the vast resources devoted to tax compliance & avoidance in a tortuous federal tax system skewed to the wrong aims. (Mosler and Beardsley Ruml convinced me that the federal corporate income tax should be abolished.)

Mosler discussed this recently in a podcast:

https://www.patreon.com/posts/episode-123-and-59856379

Dec 13, 2021 at 2:57 AM
Episode 123 - Warren Mosler: Understanding The Price Level And Inflation


To go all-in, there's a link there to Mosler's recent paper, "A Framework for the Analysis of the Price Level and Inflation":

I was asked to do a chapter on ‘inflation’ under the textbook definition which is ‘a continuous increase in the price level.’ However, under close examination this turns out to be elusive at best. At any point in time the price level is presumably both static and quantitatively undefinable. That’s why even the most sophisticated central bank research uses abstractions, the most familiar being the Consumer Price Index (CPI) which consists of selected goods and services designed to reflect a cost of living rather than ‘the price level.’ Nor can central banks determine a continuous rate of change of this abstraction. They can only tell you how the CPI has changed in the past, and they can attempt to forecast future changes. Even worse, they assume the source of the price level to be entirely historic, derived from an infinite regression into the past that, in theory, predates the birth of the universe.


Whoa. 8)

The thing about Mosler is (imo of course), he's so far "zoomed out" and has been doing this for so long—as a high-level and very successful goverment-securities trader, starting his own bank, running his own companies, talking to central bankers around the world, studying the past—that he sees the big picture in ways most of us are conditioned not to see. So some of his pronouncements—e.g. 'state spending & taxing in its own currency creates unemployment'—sound grandly theoretical and may require unpacking.


drstrangelove wrote:The only way out is a currency reset. Which is why the Fed is sitting on its hands.


I think the reset will be in the relationship between global capitalism and the "global South"—the mostly southern hemisphere former colonies and other countries exploited by the "global North." Probably it will come in the form of a new global reserve currency (relieving the US of the burden of providing the rest of the world with USD) and zero-interest credit for nations developing their food & energy soveriegnty. The unsustainable IMF debt traps of the past must cease, that's for sure.

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Re: Market Crash Watch Party

Postby Wombaticus Rex » Sat Dec 18, 2021 11:37 am

Extremely 2000 Vibes here.

US stock market advance masks treacherous undercurrents

US stock markets are once again sailing to record peaks, yet under the surface, a strong tide is pulling down the share prices of hundreds of companies to their lowest levels of the past 12 months.

The rising divergence in the performance of individual shares hints at a fierce rotation, supercharged by booming options trading and a hawkish pivot by the Federal Reserve that could upset many investors’ positions.

Investors say the moves are unusual given they are confronted with both a policy change from the Fed and the fast spreading Omicron coronavirus variant — two tectonic shifts of the types that often prompt stocks to move in tandem.

“We are possibly on the verge of the Fed taking away the punchbowl for the first time in three years,” said Jason Goldberg, a senior portfolio manager at volatility-focused hedge fund Capstone. “Think about how many strategies are predicated on the Fed having one’s back; you have to rethink those.”

Earlier this month 1,380 stocks traded on US stock exchanges hit their lowest levels in a year. Days later, when the S&P 500 clinched its first record closing high in three weeks and extended its year-to-date gain to 25 per cent, more than 210 stocks in the index were at least 10 per cent below their 52-week highs.

On the tech-heavy Nasdaq Composite the figures are even more striking, with more than 1,300 stocks down 50 per cent or more from their highest level of the past year. And roughly 80 per cent of the more than 3,000 stocks on the exchange are off at least 10 per cent.

The relatively low correlation partly explains why some managers are struggling in a year when the S&P 500 has clocked a double-digit advance. Just five stocks — Apple, Microsoft, Nvidia, Tesla and Google parent Alphabet — have accounted for more than half of the S&P 500’s returns since April, according to Goldman Sachs estimates.

On days when the market has sold off dramatically over the past month and the Cboe’s Vix volatility index has jumped, S&P 500 stocks have moved in a tighter formation. But even then, quirks have popped up, including two weeks ago when the index slid but its biggest constituent — Apple — rose solidly.

“Right now the index moves are completely misleading to what’s going on below the surface,” Brian Bost, the co-head of equities derivatives in the Americas at Barclays said.


The sharp swings have intensified over the past two weeks. Goldman strategist Rocky Fishman has pointed to the extreme levels of option trading as one factor propelling stocks in such different directions. It is a fact exacerbated by what he called “non-fundamental stock trading”, an allusion to the retail traders who have piled into the market over the past 22 months.

Option volumes have surged in recent months, with the Options Clearing Corporation reporting a record November. Since the start of December, there have been two days when more than 50m options have changed hands in the US, a level breached fewer than 10 times in history, Bloomberg data showed.


I know so many guys (and it's all guys) who are going to get their lives destroyed with options. They think it's free money, and they'll be right every week until they're suddenly educated in the hazards of leverage. I also know a few guys who are going to clean up when that happens because they're extremely careful with the contract structures and understand what market making is -- and it ain't betting on Fed-guaranteed upsides, it's calculating the balance between safe spreads and safe bets.

Michael Wilson, an equity strategist with Morgan Stanley, warned clients of the bank this week that he expected the main indices would “basically [go] nowhere over the next 12 months”. In that scenario, he said their stock selection was of more importance than before.

“2021 has been a difficult year to trade despite the very robust returns for the major large-cap indices,” he added. “It seemed as though the stocks and styles favoured by the market one day would be very different the following day.”

Traders and strategists added that correlations could still pick up in the weeks ahead, given the Fed is attempting to burnish its hawkish bona fides. If monetary policy changes cause a jolt of volatility in markets, or should the Omicron variant begin to dramatically alter the global growth trajectory, it would result in the kind of trading behaviour when whole industries or indices move in lock-step, analysts said.

“No one knows what will happen with inflation,” Bost said. “In the next six months we could find out we are in a regime shift and correlations could go right back to 1, where people say we do need to get out of equities.”


I left the rest in because that bit is a bit different: US core inflation, even by heavily distorted official measures, is more than twice what it was in 2000. However, that was a concern back then, too, albeit moderated by flat-out religious faith in the triumvirate of Summers, Greenspan and Reich.

It's also nice to see sell-side analysis expressing some doubts, however mild.
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Re: Market Crash Watch Party

Postby Elvis » Sat Dec 18, 2021 8:23 pm

Wombaticus Rex wrote:The relatively low correlation partly explains why some managers are struggling in a year when the S&P 500 has clocked a double-digit advance. Just five stocks — Apple, Microsoft, Nvidia, Tesla and Google parent Alphabet — have accounted for more than half of the S&P 500’s returns since April, according to Goldman Sachs estimates.


I think this is related to that:

https://nathantankus.substack.com/p/the ... sconnected
The Stock Market Is Less Disconnected From the “Real Economy” Than You Think
Stock Market Indices Aren't The Stock Market

The key issue here is that people reference what is happening with the “stock market” all the time, but what they usually mean is “stock market indices”. In this vision, these indices “tell us” what’s going on with stocks. So if they are up that means “stocks are up”, and if they are down “stocks are down". This may seem to offer a simple and reliable guide, but does it?

The trouble with this kind of thinking is that these indices self-perpetuate trends. Companies' relative places in these indices are weighted by the total value of all their outstanding stocks, referred to as “market capitalization”. Thanks to this, trends in price indices are exaggerated relative to actual stock prices. Stocks that go up in value become a bigger part of the index, while stocks that fall in value inherently shrink.

In this kind of structure, indices will only represent overall economic trends when stocks nearly uniformly rise or fall together.

In the Coronavirus Depression, this is inherently unlikely because social distancing and shutdowns radically change consumption patterns.
These conditions boost sales for specific industries and collapse sales for others. This is what’s driving tech stocks: their sales have simply been greatly boosted.

While it’s certainly the case that there has been momentum trading, and that these stocks may have gotten over-priced at specific points, it’s hard to tell a narrative about elevated speculation driving these trends. Why that, rather than the more typical process by which sudden changes in economic circumstances lead to adjustment, overshooting and readjustment?

This means to really glean information about what’s happening with the stock market, we must disaggregate the indices.
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Re: Market Crash Watch Party

Postby drstrangelove » Sat Dec 18, 2021 9:58 pm

Elvis » Fri Dec 17, 2021 6:19 pm wrote:I'm not sure which "means through which inflation is tapered" you mean, so I won't address that now. Suffice to say that inflation is complicated phenomena and in each case the roots of it must be identified and dealt with accordingly; there's no single prescription that works for every case. Inflation usually starts with a shortage and consequent price rise of some commodity, and then spreads—kinda like a virus, eh?—to the broader price level.

Well I'm talking about the means through which price inflation is kept at bay, so that the money supply can be inflated without it translating into price inflation of goods and services.

If the money supply is inflated and that money doesn't translate into the production of more goods and services (growth) then the price of goods and services will (eventually) go up, assuming price controls aren't put in place.

So the expansion of the money supply needs to be soaked up by goods and services, somehow. During the pandemic alot of it has been soaked up by the stock and property market. If either crash, it will all escape into the broader economy. Though this is a private sector operation.

In regards to government debt. That debt contributes to expanding the money supply. The money is created, and escapes into the economy when it is spent by the government. The interest payments on its bonds perpetually expand the money supply.

This perpetual expansion of the money supply requires perpetual growth. If there isn't enough growth then there is price inflation. Thus governments have a growth target designed to soak up the excess money created by the inflation target.

But growth has become synthetic through sacrificing quality to increase quantity. And this has happened because the money supply has kept on expanding.

So my logic, and I'm not pretending it's anything else, is this:

Inflation of the money supply either equals -
a) Price inflation that is effectively a tax on middle and lower classes (like the conserve and libertarians claim)
or
b) The destruction of goods & services the middle and lower classes consume, instead of price inflation.

But now we have progressed to -
c) not enough quantity of low quality goods & services to hide price inflation, because the money supply has been expanded SO much.

So now we have low quality goods at higher and higher prices.

The reason for this is ultimately, the extreme expansion of the money supply. Both through government & corporate bonds.

The problem of the industrial system is perpetual growth. There are other factors like energy and population at play here, but to avoid catostrophic civil unrest as a result of hyperinflation from expanding the money supply, goods and services must be at a hyper productive rate.

People have material needs. > These are met through goods & services they can afford > This is achieved through prices they can afford > Increasing the money supply increases prices > Increasing goods and services then lowers them > Increasing goods and services can be done by lowering the quality of them > The more you increase the money supply, the more you lower the quality of goods and services.

Innovation is an exception to this rule. But innovation these days seems to be the destruction of quality for quantity. Like, if someone finds out a way to increase the quantity of something, and that something can be marketed, then they are an innovator. Even if it is literally poison.
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Re: Market Crash Watch Party

Postby Elvis » Sat Dec 18, 2021 11:57 pm

Thanks—I'm giving my brain a week off from this topic, so I'll reply after Christmas. :basicsmile

drstrangelove » Sat Dec 18, 2021 6:58 pm wrote:
Elvis » Fri Dec 17, 2021 6:19 pm wrote:I'm not sure which "means through which inflation is tapered" you mean, so I won't address that now. Suffice to say that inflation is complicated phenomena and in each case the roots of it must be identified and dealt with accordingly; there's no single prescription that works for every case. Inflation usually starts with a shortage and consequent price rise of some commodity, and then spreads—kinda like a virus, eh?—to the broader price level.

Well I'm talking about the means through which price inflation is kept at bay, so that the money supply can be inflated without it translating into price inflation of goods and services.

If the money supply is inflated and that money doesn't translate into the production of more goods and services (growth) then the price of goods and services will (eventually) go up, assuming price controls aren't put in place.

So the expansion of the money supply needs to be soaked up by goods and services, somehow. During the pandemic alot of it has been soaked up by the stock and property market. If either crash, it will all escape into the broader economy. Though this is a private sector operation.

In regards to government debt. That debt contributes to expanding the money supply. The money is created, and escapes into the economy when it is spent by the government. The interest payments on its bonds perpetually expand the money supply.

This perpetual expansion of the money supply requires perpetual growth. If there isn't enough growth then there is price inflation. Thus governments have a growth target designed to soak up the excess money created by the inflation target.

But growth has become synthetic through sacrificing quality to increase quantity. And this has happened because the money supply has kept on expanding.

So my logic, and I'm not pretending it's anything else, is this:

Inflation of the money supply either equals -
a) Price inflation that is effectively a tax on middle and lower classes (like the conserve and libertarians claim)
or
b) The destruction of goods & services the middle and lower classes consume, instead of price inflation.

But now we have progressed to -
c) not enough quantity of low quality goods & services to hide price inflation, because the money supply has been expanded SO much.

So now we have low quality goods at higher and higher prices.

The reason for this is ultimately, the extreme expansion of the money supply. Both through government & corporate bonds.

The problem of the industrial system is perpetual growth. There are other factors like energy and population at play here, but to avoid catostrophic civil unrest as a result of hyperinflation from expanding the money supply, goods and services must be at a hyper productive rate.

People have material needs. > These are met through goods & services they can afford > This is achieved through prices they can afford > Increasing the money supply increases prices > Increasing goods and services then lowers them > Increasing goods and services can be done by lowering the quality of them > The more you increase the money supply, the more you lower the quality of goods and services.

Innovation is an exception to this rule. But innovation these days seems to be the destruction of quality for quantity. Like, if someone finds out a way to increase the quantity of something, and that something can be marketed, then they are an innovator. Even if it is literally poison.
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Re: Market Crash Watch Party

Postby drstrangelove » Tue Dec 21, 2021 10:26 pm

The London Interbank Offered Rate - used as the reference rate for short-term unsecured loans, and the pricing of almost all floating rate financial markets from corporate debt to home loans and complex derivatives for half a century – will essentially be regulated out of existence on December 31.

. . .

While there will be some limited instances where LIBOR will still be used for legacy transactions until mid-2023, from January 1 market participants will have to use the new default rates.

The two key ones are the Secured Overnight Financing Rate (SOFR) in the US and the Sterling Overnight Interbank Average Rate (SONIA) in the UK, although there are similar rates in other key jurisdictions.

. . .

The vast majority (estimated at more than 80 per cent) of global trade and supply chain finance, for instance, is priced off LIBOR.

- https://www.theage.com.au/business/bank ... 59jhb.html
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Re: Market Crash Watch Party

Postby drstrangelove » Mon Jan 10, 2022 9:53 am



very bullish on farts & NFTs for 2022. everything is fine.

Edit:
Oh wow, she actually is selling NFTs of her farts.

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Re: Market Crash Watch Party

Postby Wombaticus Rex » Mon Jan 10, 2022 1:05 pm

Green shoots everywhere! My current status: waiting to see if March-April of 2022 rhymes with 2000. Other analysts are squinting much further back, to the 70's.

December 31, 2021
BlackRock, Vanguard Brace for a Fresh Year of Treasuries Losses

Negative annual returns in U.S. Treasuries are rare, and when they do pop up, for a generation they’ve always been followed by a rebound. BlackRock Inc. and Vanguard Group Inc. see that relationship in peril next year.

The Bloomberg U.S. Treasury Index has returned minus 2.5% in 2021, poised for the first yearly slump since 2013. In records stretching back to 1974, it’s never fallen two years in a row.

With yields still so low by historical standards and the Federal Reserve poised to jack up interest rates to battle inflation, some investors are bracing for more losses next year.

“A repeat of 2021 is a reasonable expectation for Treasury market returns in 2022,” said Jean Boivin, head of the BlackRock Investment Institute, the asset manager’s in-house think tank. “If inflation eases slowly from where it is at the moment, there is the risk of more downside performance in Treasuries next year.”


That would create a headwind for the popular 60/40 strategy, which distributes portfolios into both stocks and bonds, leaving investors relying on equities and riskier debt to generate positive returns.

Although valuations for both stocks and high-yield credit are expensive, BlackRock expects 2022 will deliver global stock gains and bond losses for a second straight year, the first such outcome based on the firm’s data going back to 1977.

“Our base case for 2022 is that growth and risk assets hold up and the market gets comfortable with the idea that the Fed tightens after the first quarter,” said Brian Quigley, senior portfolio manager at Vanguard Group. “That is moderately bearish for Treasuries.” Quigley sees yields on 10-year notes rising toward 2%, from a close of 1.51% at the end of 2021.

That yield forecast rhymes with the average estimate in a Bloomberg survey of strategists for late 2022. If that comes to pass, it will ding Treasuries returns. And, as seen this year, the low levels of fixed Treasury coupons are not only negative in inflation-adjusted terms, they can’t offset much of a price decline.

While the Bloomberg Treasury index has generated a positive coupon of 1.5% so far this year, that modest income stream has been drained by a price return of minus 4% due to the rise in overall yields since January.

The Bloomberg Treasury index has posted only four annual declines before 2021: in 1994, 1999, 2009 and 2013. It always rallied the following year, with gains ranging between 5.1% and 18%. This time, a slice of unwelcome history beckons.

“There is a first time for anything, and the chances of a second straight negative year for Treasuries is higher given the limited room for yields falling,” said George Goncalves, head of U.S. macro strategy at MUFG.

Concern over shutdowns hitting the economy early next year has extended a notable decline in benchmark Treasury yields since they peaked in late November. Haven demand may contain yields into January, leaving the market vulnerable should economic data show resilience and the Fed remains intent on raising rates soon.

The first week of January is replete with economic data, topped by the employment report for December. Economists expect 400,000 new jobs, up from the prior month’s tally of 210,000. Wage gains over the prior 12 months are seen easing to 4.2% from a 4.8% pace for the year ending in November. The bond market will also scrutinize the minutes from the Fed’s policy gathering last month for a sense of how the committee leans toward the timing of an expected first rate hike in 2022.

“An important point from recent Fed communications is that the reaction function next year may be more hawkish than expected,” said Lou Crandall, chief economist at Wrightson ICAP. “The Fed has indicated it can’t ignore inflation,” and that could well see the central bank look at raising rates in March, although such a decision will rest on how the economy fares with the latest Covid wave, added Crandall.

The prospect of rate hikes starting next year has naturally pushed up policy-sensitive short-dated yields. In contrast, both the 10-year note and 30-year bond yields remain below their 2021 peaks, driving a pronounced flattening in the Treasury yield curve. Once the Fed actually starts raising its overnight rate, the flattening trend will remain dominant, but the curve should also shift upwards. “Once the Fed tightens, the curve will bearishly flatten,” said Vanguard’s Quigley.

Another aspect of the Fed’s tightening cycle during 2022 that may well push up long-dated Treasury yields and impair returns is how the central bank manages its vast balance sheet, which has more than doubled in size to nearly $9 trillion during the pandemic.

“The Fed may not repeat the last cycle, with only steady rate hikes,” said Goncalves. “Shrinking the balance sheet is an option and the Fed has the tools to steepen the curve.”

One aspect of both the Fed and the bond market tightening financial conditions early next year, is that it may prompt a sharp decline in equities and risk assets. A bout of risk aversion could limit and potentially reward holders of Treasury index products in 2022. Prior to the onset of Covid in early 2020, the 10-year Treasury yield was around 1.8% and its ensuing slide to a low of 0.31% helped broad portfolios counter the hit to equities and credit.

“Treasuries and duration proved their worth as a diversifying asset during 2020, and the 10-year is not that far off from its pre-Covid yield,” said Quigley.

Still, with the central bank in play, the broad market appears set for a challenging time of averting an unwelcome achievement of repeating a second straight annual negative total return.


"One aspect of both the Fed and the bond market tightening financial conditions early next year, is that it may prompt a sharp decline in equities and risk assets."

Market correction this AM:

Nasdaq slumps into correction territory after painful start to 2022

Tech-focused US stock gauge falls 10% from all-time high set in November

...Economists polled by Reuters expect data on Wednesday to show US consumer prices rose at an annual pace of 7 per cent last month, up from 6.8 per cent in November.


Blackrock went public in September 1999. Lots of private equity actors are currently looking to cash out at the top, too.

Inside private equity’s race to go public

As share prices surge, a new cohort of buyout groups is preparing to list

Most of the private equity industry has been enriched during the pandemic — but a select group has had a particularly good time.

Eleven listed private equity firms collectively gained nearly $240bn in market value in 2021. Against that backdrop, a growing number of privately held buyout groups are rushing to join them on the public markets.

London-based Bridgepoint, New York-based Blue Owl and Paris-based Antin Infrastructure Partners all listed last year. One of the largest privately held buyout firms in the US, TPG, is expected to float this month at a valuation exceeding $9bn. European firms CVC Capital Partners and Ardian and US-based L Catterton have all had conversations with advisers about potential initial public offerings, people with knowledge of the talks said.

The largest listed players have used the past decade to become diversified asset managers that control multiple pools of capital worth hundreds of billions of dollars. They now dwarf their smaller, unlisted rivals, many of which are fearful of missing out.


Of particular interest to RI, one of those rivals who recently went public is ... the Wallenbergs. "To be, not to be seen" is apparently no longer the motto, at least for one of their mighty appendages, EQT. Then again, that's a suitably invisible name.

“We decided that we wanted to be one of the global players,” said Christian Sinding, chief executive of Stockholm-based EQT Partners, which listed in September 2019. “We needed capital to grow and there were more benefits to being public than raising capital privately.”

EQT, founded in 1993 as an investment arm for the Wallenberg banking and industrial dynasty, broke a half-decade lull in such listings in 2019. EQT’s shares have risen 630 per cent from their IPO price. Assets under management have surged from $45bn in September 2019 to $80bn, boosted by a couple of sizeable acquisitions.

“The market is consolidating and the larger platforms are getting larger,” said Michael Arougheti, chief executive of Ares Management, which has struck four large acquisitions since 2020, drawing in over $40bn in assets. “A lot of smaller managers are feeling disadvantaged.”

An executive at a large, privately held buyout firm, said: “Investment bankers have been constantly pitching us to buy something, do an IPO or a debt issuance, or all of the above.”


That last bit, of course, is nothing new.
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Re: Market Crash Watch Party

Postby drstrangelove » Tue Jan 11, 2022 4:47 pm

From what I've gathered about BlackRock in the 90s. The RTC and FDIC auctioned off all the good commercial real estate assets acquired from S&L 'crisis' to private funds like Blackstone/Rock when the market was at its bottom 90-95, and at discount bulk prices too. Then they started to dump all the bad shit onto the market in the mid to late 90s through commercial mortgage backed securities and REITS, jacking up the prices of BlackRock funds. Then BlackRock goes public in time for everyone wanting a safe haven from tech.

What's inside of these private funds going public at the moment? Because in the 90s it was all commercial real estate. Are they made up of CMBS/MBS from the fallout of 2008? If so we could see a repeat. Market crashes, especially renewable energy tech, everything escapes into real estate funds or stock of. These funds buy everything up in all the other sectors that crashed. Then real estate market crashes sometime after that.

That would be too clean though. This modern environment is a mess. I think they are trying to inflate away the debt, so I have no idea how to make sense of the interplay of a stock market bubble, property market bubble, and currency reset. The more I learn the more I forget what I thought I knew.

Meanwhile we've progressed to NFTs of jarred farts. And honestly, at the rate culture is becoming so socially isolated, there really is growth in the "human contact" market. Lonely people smelling farts in a jar for comfort doesn't seem out of place in the future. There's been used panty vending machines in Japan for decades, thanks to a culture where people go commit suicide in the same forrest just to feel close to others. The Rockefeller's have always had an affinity for Japanese culture. There's the Japan Society, and as I remember they created the tri-lat commission just to include Japan because the CFR was too Anglo-centric. I think it has something to do with internal controls. All the think tanks have been worried about the individualism of the west and how difficult it is to get these population to comply with collective alterations to their culture. Thus the use of external control (force/coercion) is required, which they know is not a sustainable policy. On the other hand the Japanese have a very pliable culture. They achieved an 80% double vax rate without a mandate. Crime rates have always been low even though they have highly populated urban areas. And they have the youth of all western nations hooked on their manga, a lot of which is transhumanist propaganda.
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Re: Market Crash Watch Party

Postby Wombaticus Rex » Tue Jan 11, 2022 7:51 pm

drstrangelove » Tue Jan 11, 2022 3:47 pm wrote:What's inside of these private funds going public at the moment?


I think it's just the rush to get out towards the secular cycle market top, myself; there is also a certain amount of momentum involved when everyone is trying to negotiate these IPOs at the same time.

The more I learn the more I forget what I thought I knew.


Same, same.

Related to everything in this thread, some interesting analysis mixed with a novel cudgel to scaremonger about crypto:

Crypto Prices Move More in Sync With Stocks, Posing New Risks

Crypto assets such as Bitcoin have matured from an obscure asset class with few users to an integral part of the digital asset revolution, raising financial stability concerns.

The market value of these novel assets rose to nearly $3 trillion in November from $620 billion in 2017, on soaring popularity among retail and institutional investors alike, despite high volatility. This week, the combined market capitalization had retreated to about $2 trillion, still representing an almost four-fold increase since 2017.

Amid greater adoption, the correlation of crypto assets with traditional holdings like stocks has increased significantly, which limits their perceived risk diversification benefits and raises the risk of contagion across financial markets, according to new IMF research.


Link to said research note: https://www.imf.org/en/Publications/glo ... ons-511776

The next part is pretty shaky:

Before the pandemic, crypto assets such as Bitcoin and Ether showed little correlation with major stock indices. They were thought to help diversify risk and act as a hedge against swings in other asset classes. But this changed after the extraordinary central bank crisis responses of early 2020. Crypto prices and US stocks both surged amid easy global financial conditions and greater investor risk appetite.

For instance, returns on Bitcoin did not move in a particular direction with the S&P 500, the benchmark stock index for the United States, in 2017–19. The correlation coefficient of their daily moves was just 0.01, but that measure jumped to 0.36 for 2020–21 as the assets moved more in lockstep, rising together or falling together.


Crypto had a boom that involved major institutional players moving in to buy crypto assets. I think this is more tautology than causation, but I'm also a fucking idiot. Then again, so is whoever is offering firm conclusions based on this chart. Anyways, onward:

Crypto’s ripple effects

Increased crypto-stocks correlation raises the possibility of spillovers of investor sentiment between those asset classes. Indeed, our analysis, which examines the spillovers of prices and volatility between crypto and global equity markets, suggests that spillovers from Bitcoin returns and volatility to stock markets, and vice versa, have risen significantly in 2020–21 compared with 2017–19.

Bitcoin volatility explains about one-sixth of S&P 500 volatility during the pandemic, and about one-tenth of the variation in S&P 500 returns. As such, a sharp decline in Bitcoin prices can increase investor risk aversion and lead to a fall in investment in stock markets. Spillovers in the reverse direction—that is, from the S&P 500 to Bitcoin—are on average of a similar magnitude, suggesting that sentiment in one market is transmitted to the other in a nontrivial way.

Similar behavior is visible with stablecoins, a type of crypto asset that aims to maintain its value relative to a specified asset or a pool of assets. Spillovers from the dominant stablecoin, Tether, to global equity markets also increased during the pandemic, though remain considerably smaller than those of Bitcoin, explaining about 4 percent to 7 percent of the variation in US equity returns and volatility.

Notably, our analysis shows that spillovers between crypto and equity markets tend to increase in episodes of financial market volatility—such as in the March 2020 market turmoil—or during sharp swings in Bitcoin prices, as observed in early 2021.


Again: major institutional players entering and exiting positions due to either trading algorithms or the structure of their fund.

If it seems weird that white-shirt economic analysis is talking in circles around this, well, here's the punchline: future volatility, corrections, or even The Big One can be plausibly blamed on "crypto" and justify state actor crackdowns on the asset class in addition to, you know, another round of bailouts for the banks being victimized by these defi terrorists.

Systemic concerns

The increased and sizeable co-movement and spillovers between crypto and equity markets indicate a growing interconnectedness between the two asset classes that permits the transmission of shocks that can destabilize financial markets.

Our analysis suggests that crypto assets are no longer on the fringe of the financial system. Given their relatively high volatility and valuations, their increased co-movement could soon pose risks to financial stability especially in countries with widespread crypto adoption. It is thus time to adopt a comprehensive, coordinated global regulatory framework to guide national regulation and supervision and mitigate the financial stability risks stemming from the crypto ecosystem.

Such a framework should encompass regulations tailored to the main uses of crypto assets and establish clear requirements on regulated financial institutions concerning their exposure to and engagement with these assets. Furthermore, to monitor and understand the rapid developments in the crypto ecosystem and the risks they create, data gaps created by the anonymity of such assets and limited global standards must be swiftly filled.


"Look What You Made Me Do," once again. Meanwhile, expect to see the "stress test" framework updated to stipulate some useless benchmarks for "crypto exposure."
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Postby Belligerent Savant » Tue Jan 11, 2022 8:41 pm

Given their relatively high volatility and valuations, their increased co-movement could soon pose risks to financial stability especially in countries with widespread crypto adoption. It is thus time to adopt a comprehensive, coordinated global regulatory framework to guide national regulation and supervision and mitigate the financial stability risks stemming from the crypto ecosystem.



Sounds like a priming for eventual CBDC adoption. Especially if crypto can be blamed, in part, for the next crash.

Then again, not sure it'll need this segue, specifically - plenty of other routes can lead us there.
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