Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

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https://metatron.substack.com/p/the-aus ... -holocaust

The Australian Holocaust?

Non-COVID excess deaths are 3 times greater than net COVID deaths (offset by flu, pneumonia and chronic lower respiratory conditions) and all the excess occurs since the start of the mRNA experiment.

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Nature: Vaccine Doses Administered vs. Number of Cardiac Arrest Calls in Israel | Any Questions?

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JAMA study: "Among those with Omicron infection, the risk of symptomatic infection did not differ significantly for the 2-dose vaccination status vs. unvaccinated status and was significantly HIGHER for the 3-dose recipients vs. those who were unvaccinated."

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https://joannenova.com.au/2022/10/10000-mysterious-excess-deaths-in-australia-that-no-one-wants-to-talk-about/

You’d think it would be big news? Deaths in Australia are running a lot higher than expected. After ticking like a metronome for years, they’ve suddenly jumped 12% or even higher. This is above and beyond normal deaths and deaths listed as “Covid”. Something mysterious or new has killed around 10,000 Australians in the first half of this year last twelve months*. This is eight times worse than the national road toll, yet this phenomenon has barely rated a mention in our news reports.

When a car crash kills three people, we hear about it on the six o’clock news. But when 10,000 lose their lives… crickets.

Total media interest on this mystery killer amounts to three tangential mentions out of 100 media outlets. One, in the Australian Financial Review called it a “marked” change and “helpfully” said it wasn’t due to suicide. The Guardian, meanwhile wondered if Covid was really killing more people than we realize. The third, NewsGP for doctors was the only serious discussion, yet even it was all questions and no answers. The word vaccine was only mentioned so that we knew that unnamed analysts believe “the probable influence of vaccine-related deaths … is ‘negligible’. Not that they had any reasons.

Actuaries Australia estimate the increase in deaths in the first five months of the year was 12% higher than expected. They are the most conservative. The Australian Bureau of Statistics (ABS) though calculates that so far in the first half of 2022 there were some 13,500 deaths more than the historical average. If they are correct that would be 17% above normal.

Of the excess deaths, 5,292 were Covid positive deaths, many in the peak of the first major wave of widespread Covid in Australia in January 2022. But sometime around September last year there was a large rise in unexpected deaths that are not officially due to Covid. This group (marked in yellow) was far above the normal range expected and stayed higher ever since.

*UPDATE: To clarify, of the 10,300 excess deaths from Jan to June about 5,300 were due to Covid. So there were 5,000 unexplained mystery deaths, which is 830 Australians dying each month (in the most conservative actuaries estimate, and more in the ABS numbers). In the last twelve months that works out to be 10,000 people. Obviously numbers can’t be confirmed for a few more months.

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Actuaries Australia essentially declares that most of the excess deaths are probably due to longer ongoing risks after a Covid infection. Some of the excess may be a “bounce” from the reduction in deaths caused in 2020 when influenza was gone. (But why did that “bounce” wait until Sept 2021 to start?) Some of the excess could be because doctors and hospitals and emergency wards were overwhelmed, and people didn’t get check ups. But it definitely wasn’t due to vaccines because, wait for it, Australia has a good vaccine approval process. (Yes, we sign secret contracts, and use secret data. How could anyone disagree?)

Amazingly they even quote the Australian vaccine safety report which includes 931 deaths reported after vaccination. This is nearly 10% of the mystery deaths tally, and if it were under-reported 10 to 1 (as is the case in the UK — see Ref 39/40 in the Malhotra paper) then the true tally could easily be nearly all the mystery deaths. Instead, the actuaries are comfortable ignoring 918 of those 931 reported deaths. Only 13 deaths were found “to be caused” by a vaccine. Amazing the power of faceless bureaucrats to delete all those people. Cancelled, even after death.

So why the total mass media silence on all of these excess deaths, Joe?

Same reason we have total media silence on David McBride, the housing crisis, the bodgy gas contracts, Australian weapons being used in Yemen, etc etc. IE They don't completely ignore it but don't really talk about it much either.

You reckon 900 excess heart disease deaths out of something like 25 million doses (at least) this year. How does that add up to "The vaccines are causing a holocaust of heart disease and killing people."

Especially if you consider that deaths from CHD have decreased significantly(ie by > 5%) in Australia due to prevention, medical care and intervention over the last 10 years. Those improvements are a result of the levels of care we provide however these levels of care have deteriorated as a result of the pandemic and the stress the medical system is under.

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JAMA Study of Essential and Frontline US Workers: The Vaccinated Are Roughly TWICE as Likely to Get Symptomatic COVID Than Are the Unvaccinated

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A resounding Yes to all of this.

We have the 'receipts' in this very thread, Re: what we knew and when. And we also have, here, documentation of those that continued -- and still continue -- to defend what was always indefensible.

Emily Oster proposes “a pandemic amnesty,” suggests that “we need to forgive one another for what we did and said when we were in the dark about COVID”

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I don’t know much about the American pandemic pundits, but I gather that Brown University economist and “parenting guru” Emily Oster is far from the worst of them. Her Twitter timeline suggests she spent the early months of the pandemic terrified about the virus until school closures took their toll on her kids, at which point she repositioned herself as a kind of lockdown moderate, opposing the worst of the hystericist excesses while validating their central premises whenever possible to save face with friends and colleagues.


“Employer mandates” mean firing people who don’t share your medical and political opinions.

Emily Oster’s latest act of moderation is the suggestion that we forgive and forget all the disastrous policies inflicted on us by terrified wealthy urbanites, clueless technocrats and mad scientist vaccinators since 2020, because, hey, these were just honest mistakes, anybody could’ve messed up like that, it’s all good.

April 2020, with nothing else to do, my family took an enormous number of hikes. We all wore cloth masks that I had made myself. We had a family hand signal, which the person in the front would use if someone was approaching on the trail and we needed to put on our masks. Once, when another child got too close to my then-4-year-old son on a bridge, he yelled at her “SOCIAL DISTANCING!”

These precautions were totally misguided. In April 2020, no one got the coronavirus from passing someone else hiking. Outdoor transmission was vanishingly rare. Our cloth masks made out of old bandanas wouldn’t have done anything, anyway. But the thing is: We didn’t know.

The thing is, Emily Oster, that we did know. We’ve studied respiratory virus transmission for years. All the virologists and epidemiologists who aren’t total morons knew your 2020 mask routine was crazy and they just didn’t care. They wanted you to do it anyway, because they thought that if they got you to act paranoid and antisocial enough, your insane behaviour might have some limited effect on case curves. Joke’s on you, and it’s sad you still haven’t realised.

[T]here is an emerging (if not universal) consensus that schools in the U.S. were closed for too long: The health risks of in-school spread were relatively low, whereas the costs to students’ well-being and educational progress were high. The latest figures on learning loss are alarming. But in spring and summer 2020, we had only glimmers of information. Reasonable people—people who cared about children and teachers—advocated on both sides of the reopening debate. …

No, reasonable people could see already in March 2020 that SARS-2 posed no measurable threat to children. There was never any honest debate to be had about this.

The people who got it right, for whatever reason, may want to gloat. Those who got it wrong, for whatever reason, may feel defensive and retrench into a position that doesn’t accord with the facts. …

We have to put these fights aside and declare a pandemic amnesty. … [W]e need to learn from our mistakes and then let them go. We need to forgive the attacks, too. Because I thought schools should reopen and argued that kids as a group were not at high risk, I was called a “teacher killer” and a “génocidaire.” It wasn’t pleasant, but feelings were high. And I certainly don’t need to dissect and rehash that time for the rest of my days.

Moving on is crucial now, because the pandemic created many problems that we still need to solve.

I’m sorry somebody called you genocidal, Emily Oster. That must’ve been tough for you. You know what’s also tough? Getting your head kicked in by riot police because you had the temerity to protest against indefinite population-wide house arrest.



Or being fired from your university job and banned in perpetuity from the premises because you uploaded a video to social media complaining about the onerous and expensive testing requirements imposed upon unvaccinated staff. Or being confined to your house and threatened with fines because of personal medical decisions that had no chance of impacting the broader course of the pandemic in the first place. But somebody called this woman genocidal in French and she’s ready to move on, so it’s all good.

Emily Oster may have said a few reasonable things in the depths of her pandemic moderation, but she can take her proposal for pandemic amnesty and shove it all the way up her ass. I’m never going to forget what these villains did to me and my friends. It is just hard to put into words how infuriating it is, to read this breezy triviliasation of the absolute hell we’ve been through, penned by some comfortable and clueless Ivy League mommyconomist who is ready to mouth support for basically any pandemic policy that doesn’t directly affect her or her family and then plead that the horrible behaviour and policies supported by her entire social milieu are just down to ignorance about the virus. We knew everything we needed to know about SARS-2 already in February 2020.

The pandemicists and their supporters crossed many bright red lines in their eradicationist zeal and ruined untold millions of lives. That doesn’t all just go away now.

https://www.eugyppius.com/p/emily-oster ... tter&sd=pf

The comments section within the above link are worth perusing as well.

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[All of the above without consideration of prior infection as a form of protection]

Knowing that you don't generally believe much if anything from mainstream medical journals, it would be foolhardy to point out that is at least in part based on evidence (I know, I'm sure its bullshit to you) that the currently globally dominant variant doesn't provide immunity.

Where's the outcry from those that typically clamor about human rights violations?

Focusing on things that affect substantially more and more vulnerable people. E.G. abortion, immigration, water quality, etc. Noticing that the very good and very important rigorously smart and skeptical of COVID crowd is couple with a much bigger mass of people who don't have a fucking clue what they're talking about, probably.

Mandates and lockdowns are crimes against humanity. It's grotesque that mandates still exist. They should have NEVER been implemented.

Was there ever once a single "lockdown" in the US, BS? Was there ever a time when one could not leave their house, in any state? Was there ever a time when anyone had to wear a tracking bracelet due to their COVID status? Were people forcibly quarantined by military or LEO? Literally even once? Are the mandates and lockdowns that were used successfully in, say Zaire or Congo to stop the spread of Ebola crimes against humanity too? Or did they save lives with a minimum of harm, in a situation (unsanitary conditions, lack of medical facilities, etc) created by colonialism?

And yet: even with clear acknowledgement by the CDC that these shots do NOT curb transmission, many colleges and employers CONTINUE to ENFORCE MANDATES.

There's also a current trend to drop those mandates, including the Uni I work at.

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Do you care to walk back any of the above, by the way? I will repeat that as more time passes, it does appear -- and more studies are showing -- that prior infection DOES INDEED provide longer lasting and more durable immunity (for all variants) than any of these mRNA products. Broadly-speaking, those with 2 or more covid shots are more likely to get covid more than once/twice, and more likely to be hospitalized, among other ailments that remain TBD. It will be several years before there is clarity on this. That said, as of now the "plausible deniability" attempts look weaker with each passing month.

Also: are you still holding to this notion that the U.S. didn't "actually" have lockdowns by drawing this shameless strawman comparing the more egregious aspects of how a "lockdown" may be defined? There are many fucking ways to implement a lockdown. That ANY schools were closed; that ANY playgrounds were sealed off with yellow police tape, or beaches, sports venues, public events or meeting places, restaurants, bars, etc. were shut down (many forever); that ANY curfews were implemented, etc.; they were all gross, ineffective, unwarranted and egregious affronts to fundamental human rights. Your glib hand-waving doesn't minimize the significant harms caused. You (and many others with similar sentiment) truly should be ashamed of the tone employed here on this issue.

It should be clear by now that lockdowns and mandates were NOT implemented for "benevolent but misguided/miscalculated" reasons, but instead, for reasons that were malevolent (the wealth/power transfers alone during lockdown periods should have been called out by any/all that clamor for the rights of the under-privileged/working classes, not to mention the MILLIONS of jobs/livelihoods lost, and of course, lives as well).

Then there is the fact that too many colleges/universities continue to push vaccine mandates -- especially the Ivy Leagues -- including mandating the most recent booster. This is criminal and despicable.

Of course, there remain employers that are terminating employees due to non-compliance with draconian mandate policies.

As mentioned before, I will be terminated from my position by end of year because my employer -- a publicly traded company that touts "diversity, inclusion and belonging" -- is STILL ENFORCING vaccine mandates and terminating employees for their "wrong" personal medical decision. Many of my colleagues have been largely indifferent to the blatant forms of ostracism, othering, alienation and segregation endured by the relative few of us with exemptions (we were granted 'temporary' exemptions but restricted from participating in any 'team' events or visiting any company office, meeting any co-workers in person, etc.). Many of these 'colleagues' will virtue signal about the token corporate 'good cause' du jour, however.

Fucking hypocrites. They are legion these days.

(Fortunately, due to my larger peer network I've already received an offer with another firm which will pay more; an org that has no covid mandates or policies in place. MANY others -- all over the world -- terminated due to covid mandates were not as fortunate, however)

In your posting above (which was typed earlier this year, just before the CDC updated their guidance to explicitly indicate no difference in guidance between the "vaccinated" and the un-"vaccinated", among other notable updates for that time period), you attempted to (not-so-subtly, and with more than a bit of smug) paint me as using this thread as a "crusade".

A related aside:
You also reference a lack of "nuance" (perhaps not in the portion I excerpted, but it was in the same posting); once more, you're attempting to broadly summarize, misrepresent and mischaracterize my arguments. My position on this evolved over time, but it quickly became clear - to me, and others - that this was not a "botched health crisis" but a purposeful series of events with other aspirations. Sowing and fueling discord, division and distrust of authority figures and institutions may well be part of the over-arching agenda as a means to introduce more overt control systems ('social credit'; CBDCs, UBI, etc). A number of these themes are covered in other threads I started, such as "Blockchain/Digital Currency as part of 'The Great Reset'": viewtopic.php?f=8&t=42182 , though other forum members have also postulated on these themes astutely, cogently, in other threads.

This notion of "nuance", such as the concepts of individual autonomy vs 'collective good' during times of crisis, etc., can be a viable conversation, IF INDEED masks worked in some capacity, or these shots offered sterilizing immunity of some sort (along with minimal harms). Or, if the policies implemented/actions taken by govts/bureaucracies were, at their core, earnest attempts to mitigate spread or address a health crisis (which, to be clear, I've no doubt MANY involved at the lower levels: doctors, nurses, scientists, etc. -- had earnest, good intent). But my focus -- as I imagine it would be for others -- is trained on the intent and actions of those in positions of power/influence that seek to cause harms at a mass scale.

Unfortunately, NEITHER premise has been shown to be true in any meaningful way that would justify mandates* (masks don't curb aerosol spread in any real world setting, and covid shots have not prevented transmission/spread and indeed cause significant harms for a notable percentage, the true scale of which remains TBD) -- and it seems you are still having trouble fully acknowledging this. Part of your issue with my content and/or style, in other words, is your continued refusal to fully acknowledge just how egregiously harmful all of this has been, and how deeply misled so many have been. Unfortunately this also means acknowledging complicity in participation of the harms caused. And many remain unable or unwilling to vocalize this at this time, to themselves or to others.

*I'd argue that mandates have no place in any mentally sound society, irrespective of the benefits of any products put forth. Moot, in any event, with respect to covid.

If there is a fucking hill to die on, the egregious and continued affronts to human rights, the utter disregard for any ethical standards, and the passive complicity of those that should have rejected all these policies outright (but were apparently more concerned with being modern day 'good Germans'/apologists) is a fucking hill worth dying on.

There's been much progress on many of these issues, despite the passivity of those that should never have been passive about any of this.

But we're not out of the woods yet, by a longshot. However: It's been encouraging to see the growing numbers -- those willing to clearly acknowledge how they've been deeply misled, and willing to take active steps to prevent recurrence in any way they can.

And yet, many continue to refuse to own up to just how fucked up the last ~2yrs were, or instead offer a semi-acknowledgement of some harms but not others, or otherwise -- as called out in my prior posting above -- attempt to sweep it all under the rug with minimal, if any, ownership of their passive or active complicity.

I won't fucking apologize for anything I typed here on this topic. I'm sure others here that keep this thread active share much of the same sentiment.

I'm far from alone, especially now.

Nothing will be forgotten or swept under the rug unless or until there is some form of accountability, in the first instance.

Given the broader, longer-term agendas in play, outside of a number of scapegoats/sacrificial lambs that may be offered up for sacrifice, the likelihood of true justice is slim/none.

And yet, persist we will., in spite of it.

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https://twitter.com/doc_gero/status/158 ... cEJTPcFdbQ

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New Paper Published in the Minerva Scientific Journal: Censorship and Suppression of Covid-19 Heterodoxy: Tactics and Counter-Tactics | Censorship, the Backfire Effect and Public Outrage

Abstract

The emergence of COVID-19 has led to numerous controversies over COVID-related knowledge and policy. To counter the perceived threat from doctors and scientists who challenge the official position of governmental and intergovernmental health authorities, some supporters of this orthodoxy have moved to censor those who promote dissenting views. The aim of the present study is to explore the experiences and responses of highly accomplished doctors and research scientists from different countries who have been targets of suppression and/or censorship following their publications and statements in relation to COVID-19 that challenge official views.

Our findings point to the central role played by media organizations, and especially by information technology companies, in attempting to stifle debate over COVID-19 policy and measures. In the effort to silence alternative voices, widespread use was made not only of censorship, but of tactics of suppression that damaged the reputations and careers of dissenting doctors and scientists, regardless of their academic or medical status and regardless of their stature prior to expressing a contrary position. In place of open and fair discussion, censorship and suppression of scientific dissent has deleterious and far-reaching implications for medicine, science, and public health.

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Source: Evidence-Based Medicine