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Re: Is Porn Bad for You?

Postby RobinDaHood » Mon Dec 12, 2011 2:56 pm

Can You Tell The Difference Between A Men’s Magazine And A Rapist?
Well, this is upsetting. According to a new study, people can't tell the difference between quotes from British "lad mags" and interviews with convicted rapists. And given the choice, men are actually more likely to agree with the rapists.

The University of Surrey reports on the study (conducted jointly with researchers at Middlesex University), to be published in the British Journal of Psychology. Researchers gave a group of men and women quotes from the British lad mags FHM, Loaded, Nuts and Zoo, as well as excerpts from interviews with actual convicted rapists originally published in the book The Rapist Files. The participants couldn't reliably identify which statements came from magazines and which from rapists — what's more, they rated the magazine quotes as slightly more derogatory than the statements made by men serving time for raping women. The researchers also showed both sets of quotes to a separate group of men — the men were more likely to identify with the rapists' statements than the lad mag excerpts. The only slightly bright spot in the study: when researchers randomly (and sometimes incorrectly) labelled the quotes as coming from either rapists or magazines, the men were more likely to identify with the ones allegedly drawn from mags. At least they didn't want to agree with rapists.
Still, the results as a whole are pretty disturbing. Says lead study author Dr. Miranda Horvath, "We were surprised that participants identified more with the rapists' quotes, and we are concerned that the legitimisation strategies that rapists deploy when they talk about women are more familiar to these young men than we had anticipated." Her co-author Dr. Peter Hegarty adds,

There is a fundamental concern that the content of such magazines normalises the treatment of women as sexual objects. We are not killjoys or prudes who think that there should be no sexual information and media for young people. But are teenage boys and young men best prepared for fulfilling love and sex when they normalise views about women that are disturbingly close to those mirrored in the language of sexual offenders?

Many of the rapists quoted in the study talked about coercing women or having sex with them even though they were initially unwilling. However, so did the lad mags. Horvath says, "Rapists try to justify their actions, suggesting that women lead men on, or want sex even when they say no, and there is clearly something wrong when people feel the sort of language used in a lads' mag could have come from a convicted rapist." A lot of these stereotypes — that women say no when they really mean yes, or are "asking for it" by going out with a man or wearing a short skirt — have indeed been normalized, and it's sad but not surprising that they appear in a lot of lad mags. Defenders of such statements like to frame them as innocent, or even helpful, observations. But perhaps the news that they sound just like rapists will make people — and magazines — rethink their words.

Middlesex University generously provided us with a copy of the quotes the researchers used. See if you can tell the difference between the rapists and the lad mags:

1. There's a certain way you can tell that a girl wants to have sex . . . The way they dress, they flaunt themselves.

2. Some girls walk around in short-shorts . . . showing their body off . . . It just starts a man thinking that if he gets something like that, what can he do with it?

3. A girl may like anal sex because it makes her feel incredibly naughty and she likes feeling like a dirty slut. If this is the case, you can try all sorts of humiliating acts to help live out her filthy fantasy.

4. Mascara running down the cheeks means they've just been crying, and it was probably your fault . . . but you can cheer up the miserable beauty with a bit of the old in and out.

5. What burns me up sometimes about girls is dick-teasers. They lead a man on and then shut him off right there.

6. Filthy talk can be such a turn on for a girl . . . no one wants to be shagged by a mouse . . . A few compliments won't do any harm either . . . ‘I bet you want it from behind you dirty whore' . . .

7. You know girls in general are all right. But some of them are bitches . . . The bitches are the type that . . . need to have it stuffed to them hard and heavy.

8. Escorts . . . they know exactly how to turn a man on. I've given up on girlfriends. They don't know how to satisfy me, but escorts do.

9. You'll find most girls will be reluctant about going to bed with somebody or crawling in the back seat of a car . . . But you can usually seduce them, and they'll do it willingly.

10. There's nothing quite like a woman standing in the dock accused of murder in a sex game gone wrong . . . The possibility of murder does bring a certain frisson to the bedroom.

11. Girls ask for it by wearing these mini-skirts and hotpants . . . they're just displaying their body . . . Whether they realise it or not they're saying, ‘Hey, I've got a beautiful body, and it's yours if you want it.'

12. You do not want to be caught red-handed . . . go and smash her on a park bench. That used to be my trick.

13. Some women are domineering, but I think it's more or less the man who should put his foot down. The man is supposed to be the man. If he acts the man, the woman won't be domineering.

14. I think if a law is passed, there should be a dress code . . . When girls dress in those short skirts and things like that, they're just asking for it.

15. Girls love being tied up . . . it gives them the chance to be the helpless victim.

16. I think girls are like plasticine, if you warm them up you can do anything you want with them.

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Re: Is Porn Bad for You?

Postby compared2what? » Mon Dec 12, 2011 6:00 pm

norton ash wrote:Because I still resent what she did. I was on the porn-harms-women side in the early 80's because I thought the industry was an affront to human goodness, dignity, respect and gentleness. They were destroyers of youth and innocence, pimps, slavers, and providers of addictive drugs.

And then the haters and book-burners showed up, and the boys and girls got polarized and started talking total shit, and 'feminists' joined forces with the Christian Right, and the world got more complex.

It's 2011, Andrea Dworkin's dead, and it looks to me like the exhibitionists are beginning to seize the means of porn production. And if the 'industry' goes broke, that's fine with me.

Peace.


QFT in spirit, and mostly in letter.

I guess that if I had to restate it to reflect my personal position in a sentence or two, I'd say that I was and am on the porn-harms-women side because porn harms many women in a number of ways, both directly and indirectly, as well as many men, both in some of the same ways and in different ones.**

However, the same could be said with at least as much truth of (non-comprehensively): Marriage, divorce, celibacy, poverty, career, and family. FTM, it could also be said with as much (if not more) truth about articles in the popular media that use porn and/or rape as a hook on which to hang the examination of "new" cultural phenomena that (a) really aren't more than superficially new; and (b) actually arise from multifactorial and much more complex complex causes than just porn and/or rape.

I mean, I'd be very interested in seeing a serious investigative series on the re-branding and marketing of female genital mutilation as cosmetic surgery in the post-industrial west. For example. Because it's a phenomenon that's actually reflective of several very, very seriously predatory, pernicious and pervasive contemporary social evils that afflict us all -- including misogyny, obviously, though far from limited to it.

But I know that I'm never going to. Because -- due to a different iteration of all the self-same social evils plus a couple of others -- it's basically an unwritten popular-media and cultural law that all stories about the lady-parts of post-industrial western ladies that aren't about either cancer/health (on the one hand) or sex/sexualized crime (on the other) are life-and-style section stories. Presumptively.

Or sometimes arts-and-culture (or other C- and D-) section stories, I guess. Technically. But you know what I mean. My point is that they're presumptively neither treated as serious news stories by the media nor thought to deserve such treatment by the culture at large. There's no earthly reason for that I know of except that (as a matter of enduring common consensus):

Why, bless my boots and buttons! That's no way to think or speak about the genital beingness of ladies when there are ladies present. Therefore, apart from stories about fallen women, martyrs, attractive white female murder victims, or one of the various other longstanding exemptions that (among other things) act as a socially sanctioned proximate occasion for the quasi-pornographic contemplation of women being punished for having lady-parts and/or the sexuality that goes with them, you never ever see such stories.
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^^ That's OBVIOUSLY not a criticism of Willow for posting that Guardian article, OR SO I VERY MUCH HOPE. Futhermore, fwiw, it's not really even a criticism of the article. As a matter of fact, I'm grateful to her for posting it for what I imagine are much the same reasons that she did so: You have to take what you can get.

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Thanks for your support, my norton ash. It's much appreciated.


** And while ordinarily, I'd assume that it went without saying that child pornography severely and criminally harms children on the general grounds that child pornography is, by definition, a documentary record of children being severely and criminally harmed, I feel that in this context: Better safe than sorry. So I'm saying it.
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Re: Is Porn Bad for You?

Postby JackRiddler » Tue Aug 27, 2013 8:44 pm


http://www.theonion.com/articles/time-f ... /?ref=auto

Time Flies When You’re Feeding An Addiction To Internet Pornography Over Which You No Longer Have Any Control

Commentary • Opinion • pornography • ISSUE 49•34 • Aug 22, 2013
By Geoff Harkham


I try to stay on top of things, but I can’t tell you how surprised I was this week when I looked at a calendar for the first time in I don’t know how long and I saw that we’re almost all the way through August. August! Can you believe it? I mean, here I was thinking that summer had just started, and it turns out we’re closing in on the end of the year! I guess it really is true what they say: Time flies when you spend every waking hour feeding an addiction to internet pornography over which you no longer have any semblance of control.

Seriously, isn’t it amazing how quickly the days go by when you’ve become a powerless slave who spends every moment gaping at hardcore erotica? It’s like, you blink, Monday turns into Tuesday, Tuesday turns into Wednesday, and the next thing you know you’ve consumed hundreds of thousands of videos of women debasing themselves for your perverted gratification, a mindless and never-ending exercise in sexual depravity that no longer gives you any real pleasure and now serves as nothing more than an empty, joyless compulsion.

It’s pretty crazy.

And the years can really sneak up on you, too. One day you’re living a healthy, well-rounded life in which your casual interest in online smut hasn’t yet destroyed your family and personal relationships, and then, in a flash, a decade has passed and there you are, devoting every ounce of energy to seeking out and staring at an uninterrupted image stream of barely 18-year-old girls masturbating on camera. And you just have to ask yourself, “Where did the time go?”

It all just happens so fast. The seasons change, every month you get a credit card statement clogged with subscription fees for the increasingly graphic gang-bang footage you now desperately crave, and before you know it, your kids are all grown up, you’ve got more than a few gray hairs, and you’ve transformed yourself into little more than a frantic, pathological collector of gaping orifices and tanned flesh.

I think we all know that feeling.

Honestly, it can feel like life is passing you right on by! I mean, there’s only so many hours in a day, and in between calling in sick to work until they fire you and huddling by your computer in a darkened room watching an endless parade of nameless women have anal sex in a van, there just isn’t enough time to go around. You know how it can be: the days tick by, the weeks turn into months, and then you miss your daughter’s birthday party yet again because you were in the middle of a horrific, 36-hour amateur facial binge with your pants at your ankles and the phone off the hook.

It really makes you think. But then you go right on back to watching pornography. And then you jerk off, again and again and again, always hoping to coax just one more strained ejaculation from your chafed and embattled genitalia. And sooner or later you’re convulsing in tears because you’ve somehow managed to exhaust Xtube.com’s vast archives of BBW squirting clips in another delirious porn bender that you won’t even remember later.

And when you do manage to gain an all-too-brief moment of clarity, you sometimes can’t even remember everything that’s happened to you since you came across that first low-resolution thumbnail of a woman baring her breasts on Playboy Online. Sure, you can sort of picture the big stuff—your wedding, your pathetic attempts at rehabilitation that never lasted longer than the time it took to power up your semen-flecked laptop, your divorce—but everything else is just a blur of browser tabs and live feeds of Eastern European women urinating that feels like a snapshot from someone else’s nightmarish life.

Because, like it or not, you can’t just put life on pause. The sun will rise, the sun will set, you’ll bolt out of bed at 3 a.m. and mindlessly stumble to your computer in a feverish attempt to appease those twisted desires that even the most depraved corridors of the internet can no longer sate, and the fact of the matter is this: No matter how you might try to slow it down, time marches on at its own steady pace, and you are a monster.

But, hey, that’s just the way it goes! You live, you die, you want to watch porn. You want to watch it so bad, maybe just for a minute or two, then you’ll get back to writing. Yeah, just a couple minutes, just to calm yourself down a little. You’re breathing so fast. Just a few videos, maybe. Click on that one. Good, good, now click on that one. Yeah, good, okay. Now click on that one. No, no good, not good enough. Click on that one. Watch that one. It’s not loading fast enough. Fuck! It’s not fucking loading! Wait, no. Oh, God. Help me help help.
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Re: Is Porn Bad for You?

Postby conniption » Wed Aug 28, 2013 1:37 am

Internet Pornography Statistics


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Revealed: The internet porn map of the world reveals US, Holland and Britain as the largest providers in the world

UK has 512,000 porn domains and hosts seven per cent of the world's porn
U.S has a 60 per cent share and Holland comes in second at 26 per cent


By Ellie Zolfagharifard
19 August 2013


A world league table today revealed the countries which view the most pornography.

The global leaders in porn are the U.S, taking a 60 per cent share of global internet pornography,

Two thirds of all U.S porn sites are hosted in California with the country hosting a total of 4.2 million domains containing porn.

Meanwhile, the famously liberal Netherlands host over a quarter of the porn, with 1.8 million domains carrying an astonishing 187 million pages of porn.

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The UK hosts 52 million pages of porn, behind only the U.S and Holland. The global leaders in porn are the U.S, taking a 60 per cent share of global internet pornography. Meanwhile, the Netherlands hosts over a quarter of the world's porn

The UK is home to 512,000 domains hosting 52 million pages of porn.

Germany follows behind at fourth with a 1.16 per cent share accounting for 8 million pages of porn spread over 80,000 domains.

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A breakdown of hosting of porn websites by state shows that two thirds of all U.S porn sites are hosted in California. Overall the country hosts a total of 4.2 million domains containing porn, topping the league table

TOP 10 COUNTRIES WHERE PORN WEBSITES ARE HOSTED

1- United States
2- Netherlands
3- United Kingdom
4- Germany
5- France
6- Canada
7- Japan
8- Australia
9- British Virgin Islands
10- Czech Republic


While Germany has more than double the UK’s web hosting capacity, the UK has more than six times the amount of porn pages.

Overall, the UK is thought to be the 9th most connected country in the world in terms of the number of internet users.
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Re: Is Porn Bad for You?

Postby coffin_dodger » Wed Aug 28, 2013 2:00 am

Is porn bad for you? - can be, I once clicked a link for some boobs and was greeted by a lady pooing in another ladies mouth.
Some sort of grading system would be appreciated - that image is in my mind now and I 'd rather it wasn't.
There are always risks involved in the Wild West, I suppose.
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Re: Is Porn Bad for You?

Postby barracuda » Wed Aug 28, 2013 12:02 pm

coffin_dodger » Tue Aug 27, 2013 11:00 pm wrote:Is porn bad for you? - can be, I once clicked a link for some boobs and was greeted by a lady pooing in another ladies mouth.
Some sort of grading system would be appreciated - that image is in my mind now and I 'd rather it wasn't.
There are always risks involved in the Wild West, I suppose.
No 'cuda, I don't have the link.


So you logged into your favorite lezscat site with your dick in your hand, and now you're waving that stinky mouse finger in my direction? Why don't ya just fuck my ass while you're at it?

I guess I should be flattered at how hard it must be, but nevertheless I'd appreciate it if you might at least try to refrain from publicly associating my username with your coprophillial fantasies, yeah? Thx.
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Re: Is Porn Bad for You?

Postby slimmouse » Wed Aug 28, 2013 1:26 pm

Is porn bad for you?

Is this question some kind of piss-take or what?

Its fukn neantherdtal consideration AFAIC.

Anybody hurt raped or murdered courtesy of your own thoughts?

Tell such questinonnaires where to sfuff their questions lest people are suffering as a direct result of your own thinking
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Re: Is Porn Bad for You?

Postby Project Willow » Wed Aug 28, 2013 2:31 pm

slimmouse » 28 Aug 2013 09:26 wrote:Is porn bad for you?

Is this question some kind of piss-take or what?

Its fukn neantherdtal consideration AFAIC.

Anybody hurt raped or murdered courtesy of your own thoughts?

Tell such questinonnaires where to sfuff their questions lest people are suffering as a direct result of your own thinking


It's unquestionable that many people are hurt in the production of porn. It is demonstrable that mainstream porn promulgates harmfully distorted views of women, and sex. Whether regular consumption of easily accessible porn harms its consumers in other, as yet unmeasured ways, is the question of the OP. There are some good arguments on both sides, if you read from the beginning of the thread. One thing is undoubtable, if you have some powerful urge that needs fulfilling, someone is going to profit from it, and the closer they can get you to being a little lab rat constantly pushing a button for its inevitable reward, that's what they'll do. They'll hone their product until it's like a drug you can't live without, twerking all up in your private psyche, and making you think they've done you a favor.

Don't worry though, the porn industry is as likely to be seriously opposed or reformed as is the military industrial complex. As long as there are humans, there will be wanking and warfare. If only we could all non-exploitatively wank together in peace.

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Re: Is Porn Bad for You?

Postby slimmouse » Wed Aug 28, 2013 2:40 pm

Project Willow » 28 Aug 2013 18:31 wrote:
slimmouse » 28 Aug 2013 09:26 wrote:Is porn bad for you?

Is this question some kind of piss-take or what?

Its fukn neantherdtal consideration AFAIC.

Anybody hurt raped or murdered courtesy of your own thoughts?

Tell such questinonnaires where to sfuff their questions lest people are suffering as a direct result of your own thinking


It's unquestionable that many people are hurt in the production of porn. It is demonstrable that mainstream porn promulgates harmfully distorted views of women, and sex. Whether regular consumption of easily accessible porn harms its consumers in other, as yet unmeasured ways, is the question of the OP. There are some good arguments on both sides, if you read from the beginning of the thread. One thing is undoubtable, if you have some powerful urge that needs fulfilling, someone is going to profit from it, and the closer they can get you to being a little lab rat constantly pushing a button for its inevitable reward, that's what they'll do. They'll hone their product until it's like a drug you can't live without, twerking all up in your private psyche, and making you think they've done you a favor.

Don't worry though, the porn industry is as likely to be seriously opposed or reformed as is the military industrial complex. As long as there are humans, there will be wanking and warfare. If only we could all non-exploitatively wank together in peace.

Kum ba ya, baby.


Of course youre right PW. I was stupidly assuming that any porn would be generally regulated to exclude such extremities.

In such a situation, I can assure you that my thinking still very much applies.

How about yourself ? Or for that matter anyone else here?
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