Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

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https://nitter.poast.org/isource_news/status/1674112917267173378
"Fauci Buys Exclusive 150 Acre Luxury Retreat On The Potomac

Rumored $18.9 Million Price Tag Makes It The Most Expensive Estate In The Area"

[Belligerent Savant]

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Surely no one here is still relying on the 'official' tally of "covid deaths", right? It's quite clear by now that the criteria for defining a 'covid death' have been (egregiously) overly broad, and the statistics/metrics presented (by the CDC and other related entities) minimally misleading, if not outright misrepresented, manipulated, and/or missing contextual data?

(particularly since it's now been broadly acknowledged that the methods for identifying a "positive" covid result from PCR was faulty, and that PCR tests themselves are not reliable means for determining covid infection)

While many sources/links have been provided on this topic -- and as such will not derail this thread to expound on it here in detail, though in a few respects it IS related and germane to this OP -- this thread/detailed overview below is highly recommended as a primer. It includes OFFICIAL CDC datapoints:

https://twitter.com/brocklyboy/status/1 ... 82593?s=20

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1477 ... 82593.html

We are unquestionably, undeniably, per policy counting deaths WITH Covid and not from it, and have been doing so the entire time. I will lay out evidence demonstrating that this is not a matter of opinion or subjective interpretation, this is 100% objective reality...

Sample screenshots/vid clips from the thread:











Etc.

The above is a mere sampling of just one set of datapoints of egregious lies, misdirections, obfuscations, disinfo, & crimes against humanity Re: the 'covid response' since 2020.

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^^^ BS, Most those images aren't loading for me.

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https://vigilantfox.substack.com/p/the-amish-died-of-covid-at-a-rate
The Amish Died of COVID at a Rate 90 Times LOWER Than the Rest of America
"Funny that... they may avoid technology, but they don't avoid people.. so it's not because they were sequestered."

[Belligerent Savant]

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From way back in early 2021, prior to VACCINE MANDATES, but in the midst of MASK MANDATES. Snippets from pages 164-165 of this thread.

I imagine a number of you may wish we burn some of the historical content in this thread. I will spare the cringe of sharing some of the terrible takes by some fellow forum members during that time.

Of course, this is not to suggest terrible positions Re: covid aren't still happening, right now. When the fucking NYTimes is still promoting masks, and continues to claim, as recently as this week, that the following statement is misinformation: 'mRNA products do not prevent transmission' (as even the CDC acknowledged LAST YEAR), it's clear that egregious hubris, stupidity, and inability/unwillingness to acknowledge egregious wrongs remains strong in the hearts & minds of many.

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Very good. I was just using the 88 trillion dollars to present my overall argument.

So it was like, very expensive bunting. Anyway I don't really see anything in your map that disagrees with me, correct me if I'm wrong.

Certainly not. I was just reassuring it.

Bringing this back here, at least for the current global pressing matter at hand.

What exactly is the 'argument', and how does it explain the large-scale, global complicity involved in the Great Lies told in this most recent affront to livelihoods/lives?
Starting with allowing an utterly bullshit Imperial College 'model' -- one of the early key justifications for wide-scale lockdowns, which turned out to be GROSSLY inaccurate -- to receive FRONT PAGE coverage in the most important news outlets in the western world, even though no scientific journal published it, let alone reviewed it. How could that have happened?

Of course one can conjure any number of outwardly plausible scenarios for all the goal-post shifting that perpetuated this madness in the months that followed, and the continued lunacy to come in the months ahead (recurring vaccinations, passports, further restrictions, etc.). A fair amount of the populace will continue to justify these actions ('Capitalism taken to the inevitable extreme!' etc.). Many, today, continue to believe these unprecedented govt actions are all for the benefit of the majority: out of concern for our collective health. We are witnessing Stockholm Syndrome en masse.

Inter-connected networks are at play 'behind the scenes' [this is my primary premise, at least]. They needn't agree very often, but it's becoming increasingly apparent that, when GREAT large-scale shifts are in the works (and the current Shift/Reset may well be the most egregious in at least 2 generations, even eclipsing the scale of 911), there are multi-pronged operations, which of course involve cooperation of key global leaders and their respective govts, think tanks, [Big Tech, Global Pharma, etc.] and media arms. And yes: certain Billionaires as well, needless to say. Many, if not most, needn't know the particulars. As with intel agencies and the military, each 'tier' need only know enough to execute their respective directives.

These are not a random confluence of events.

And yet, despite the probability of the above, I'm most disappointed and frustrated by The People. Millions passively accept these RESTRICTIONS (nay, a subset are actively clamoring for MORE if it). I'm more troubled by the passivity/compliance/lack of discernment by many citizens. Whatever may be promoted by talking heads, all of this can end today if the majority simply refuse it, or call it out for what it is.

Control mechanisms can only work on a docile and compliant majority.

[How did such docility and compliance become increasingly common? Years of conditioning mechanisms, exacerbated and amplified further in recent years by the suggestive powers available via the internet and social media, though of course at least some of the 'influencer'/suggestive phenomenon are happenstance, or rather: an organic outflow inherent to the nature of the beast. Similar to the fear of AI in the years ahead, once the genie is released from its lamp, unpredictable outcomes are inevitable. But the scale and continued reach of this COVID thing is not mere happenstance.]

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I've made clear to all friends and family that I don't care if someone else wants to wear a mask OR get a vaccine. Now if everyone stopped with this virtue signaling and judgy crap about those that don't wear mask, and there were no mask mandates then a lot of tension would disappear. I don't just mean government mandates, but businesses that require them as well.

Co-sign the above.

[stickdog99]

I just read in the NY Times that a Trump appointed judge ruled in favor of US citizens' right to free speech. Obviously, the only rational response to this development is to repeal the First Amendment!

[drstrangelove]

House Republicans Accidentally Released a Trove of Damning Covid Document
New documents show a scientist calling a lab leak “highly likely” — after drafting a paper claiming the opposite.

ouse Republicans on the subcommittee probing the origin of the Covid-19 virus appear to have inadvertently released a trove of new documents related to their investigation that shed light on deliberations among the scientists who drafted a key paper in February and March of 2020. The paper, published in Nature Medicine on March 17, 2020, was titled “The Proximal Origin of Sars-Cov-2” and played a leading role in creating a public impression of a scientific consensus that the virus had emerged naturally in a Chinese “wet market.”

The paper was the subject of a hearing on Capitol Hill on Tuesday, which coincided with the release of a report by the subcommittee devoted to the “Proximal Origin” paper. It contains limited screenshots of emails and Slack messages among the authors, laying out its case that the scientists believed one thing in private, that lab escape was likely, while working to produce a paper saying the opposite in public.

The newly exposed documents include full emails and pages of Slack chats that were cropped for the report, exposing the “Proximal Origin” authors’ real-time thinking. According to the metadata in the PDF of the report, it was created using “Acrobat PDFMaker 23 for Word,” indicating that the report was originally drafted as a Word document. Word, however, retains the original image when an image is cropped, as do many other apps. Microsoft’s documentation cautions that “Cropped parts of the picture are not removed from the file, and can potentially be seen by others,” going on to note: “If there is sensitive information in the area you’re cropping out make sure you delete the cropped areas.”

When this Word document was converted to a PDF, the original, uncropped images were likewise carried over. The Intercept was able to extract the original, complete images from the PDF using freely available tools, following the work of a Twitter sleuth.

All the files can be found here. A spokesperson for committee Republicans declined to comment.
Much of Tuesday’s hearing focused on a critical few days in early February 2020, beginning with a conference call February 1 that included the eventual authors of the paper and Drs. Anthony Fauci, then head of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, and Francis Collins, then head of its parent agency, the National Institutes of Health. Later minutes showed that the consensus among the experts leaned toward a lab escape. Yet within days, they were circulating a draft — including to Fauci and Collins — that came to the opposite conclusion, the first draft of which had been finished the same day of the conference call. How and why that rapid turnaround occurred has been the subject of much debate and interrogation.

The authors have said, and repeated during Tuesday’s hearing, that new data had changed their minds, but the new Slack messages and emails show that their initial inclination toward a lab escape remained long past that time.

Among the scientists testifying Tuesday was lead paper author Kristian Andersen of Scripps Research. In a Slack exchange on February 2, 2020, between Andersen and Andrew Rambaut of the University of Edinburgh’s Institute of Evolutionary Biology in the School of Biological Sciences, it becomes clear how seriously the authors took the hypothesis that Covid may have leaked from a lab, rather than emerged through natural means, before they ultimately became dedicated to publicly dismissing it.

“I believe RaTG13 is from Yuanan, which is about as far away from Wuhan as you can be and still be in China,” Andersen wrote, referring to a virus that produced Covid-like symptoms in miners in 2013, a strain that was later stored and researched at the Wuhan Institute of Virology. “What are the chances of finding a viruses that are 96% identical given that distance? Seems strange given how many SARS-like viruses we have in bats.”

Rambaut responded on Slack suggesting they back off such interrogation. “I personally think we should get away from all the strange coincidence stuff. I agree it smells really fishy but without a smoking gun it will not do us any good,” he wrote. “The truth is never going to come out (if [lab] escape is the truth). Would need irrefutable evidence. My position is that the natural evolution is entirely plausible and we will have to leave it at that. Lab passaging might also generate this mutation but we have no evidence that that happened.”

Still, said Rambaut, even though the truth would never emerge if a lab was responsible, the researchers had a responsibility, privately at least, to see what lessons could be learned to prevent a future lab escape. “I think it would be good idea to lay out these arguments for limited dissemination. And quite frankly so we can learn from it even if it wasn’t an escape,” he added.

That same day, after having put together the first draft of the paper, Andersen responded to two colleagues who wanted to conclusively rule out the lab scenario: “The main issue is that accidental escape is in fact highly likely–it’s not some fringe theory.”

But the paper they were drafting argued the opposite and would be used to label the possibility of a lab leak as a fringe conspiracy, confidently asserting, “Our analyses clearly show that SARS-CoV-2 is not a laboratory construct or a purposefully manipulated virus.”


At Tuesday’s hearing, Andersen said repeatedly that Fauci and Collins had no role in influencing the paper. But Fauci’s shadow hangs over the conversation. “The idea of engineering and bioweapon is definitely not going away and I’m still getting pinged by journalists,” Andersen wrote on February 5, 2020. “I have noticed some of them starting to ask more broadly about ‘lab escape’ and for now I have just ignored them — there might be a time where we need to tackle that more directly head on, but I’ll let the likes of Jeremy [Farrar] and Tony [Fauci] figure out how to do that.”

Farrar, a British biomedical researcher, was not listed as an author on the paper but was frequently referred to by Democrats during the hearing as the “father” of it. In the messages, he is seen sharing drafts of the paper with Fauci and Collins and asking the authors for edits, at one point in mid-February asking that a lab scenario be downgraded in their paper from “unlikely” to “improbable” — a change that Andersen, the lead author, agreed to.

An email in the cache from Eddie Holmes, another one of the authors, alludes to “pressure from on high.” In reply to an email that isn’t included in the subcommittee’s report or the documents, Holmes writes, “Anyway, it’s done. Sorry the last bit had to be done without you…pressure from on high.” In previous exchanges, officials with the communications department at the NIH had been asking about the status of the submission. Taken as a whole, the messages undercut the claims that the NIH took a hands-off approach to the paper.

The new documents also include a message from Nature — where the authors pitched the “Proximal Origin” paper before sending to Nature Medicine — explaining its rejection. Despite the paper leaning heavily toward a natural emergence and downplaying the potential of a lab leak, one Nature reviewer found that even leaving open the possibility of a lab escape would fuel conspiracy theorists, a Nature editor wrote to the authors. “Once the authors publish their new pangolin sequences, a lab origin will be extremely unlikely,” the reviewer had written.

Andersen pushed back against the rejection, assuring the Nature editor that their project had started with the goal of beating back “conspiracy” theories, but that the data and evidence made it impossible. “Had that been the case, we would of course have included that — but the more sequences we see from pangolins (and we have been analyzing/discussing these very carefully) the more unlikely it seems that they’re the intermediate hosts,” Andersen responded in an email on February 20, 2020. “Unfortunately none of this helps refute a lab origin and the possibility must be considered as a serious scientific theory (which is what we do) and not dismissed out of hand as another ‘conspiracy’ theory. We all really, really wish that we could do that (that’s how this got started), but unfortunately it’s not possible given the data.”

The group edited their paper further to more strongly dismiss the possibility of a lab leak for its later submission to Nature Medicine. The journal’s publication of the paper just a month later effectively ended debate for a year or more as to the origin of the pandemic.

- https://theintercept.com/2023/07/12/cov ... publicans/

link to leaked docs(link given in article) - https://www.documentcloud.org/app?q=%2B ... -213954%20

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CDC Altered Minnesota Death Certificates that List a Covid Vaccine as a Cause of Death 'ܠ Brownstone Institute

https://brownstone.org/articles/cdc-altered-death-certificates/

Far "Rightwing" pothead, again...

[BenDhyan]

RFK Jr. says COVID was ‘ethnically targeted’ to spare Jews

Democratic presidential candidate Robert F. Kennedy Jr. dished out wild COVID-19 conspiracy theories this week during a press event at an Upper East Side restaurant, claiming the bug was a genetically engineered bioweapon that may have been “ethnically targeted” to spare Ashkenazi Jews and Chinese people.

Kennedy floated the idea during a question-and-answer portion of raucous booze and fart-filled dinner at Tony’s Di Napoli on East 63d Street.

“COVID-19. There is an argument that it is ethnically targeted. COVID-19 attacks certain races disproportionately,” Kennedy said. “COVID-19 is targeted to attack Caucasians and black people. The people who are most immune are Ashkenazi Jews and Chinese.”

“We don’t know whether it was deliberately targeted or not but there are papers out there that show the racial or ethnic differential and impact,” Kennedy hedged.

In between bites of linguini and clam sauce, Kennedy, 69, warned of more dire biological weapons in the pipeline with a “50% infection fatality rate” that would make COVID-19 “look like a walk in the park.”

“We do know that the Chinese are spending hundreds of millions of dollars developing ethnic bioweapons and we are developing ethnic bioweapons,” he claimed. “They’re collecting Russian DNA. They’re collecting Chinese DNA so we can target people by race.”

There has been a growing consensus among US intelligence agencies that COVID-19 was man-made and escaped from a lab in Wuhan, China — but there is no evidence it was designed to spare certain religious groups or ethnicities, and Kennedy offered no studies to support his claims.

https://nypost.com/2023/07/15/rfk-jr-says-covid-was-ethnically-targeted-to-spare-jews/

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^ If you actually go to the website there's a video of him saying this.

[stickdog99]

Obviously, this was not politically expedient speculation, even in an "off the record" setting.

However, RKF, Jr. never said that COVID-19 was designed to do this, just that ethnically targeted bioweapons exist and that COVID-19 has an ethnic differential.

That said, I would like to see his evidence for both of those statements because I haven't seen any clear evidence to date for either of those statements.

I mean, if our leaders had the ability to release germs with specific ethnic targets, I doubt that they would save these bioweapons for a rainy day. So what is the evidence that this tech currently exists?

And I have yet to see any papers suggesting that COVID has a clear ethnic differential.

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https://archive.is/pFKJS

Media to blame for Covid vaccines’ wall of infallibility





https://petermcculloughmd.substack.com/p/media-twists-rfks-remark-at-ny-press

Media Twists RFK's Remark at NY Press Event
Big pounce on candidate's talk about COVID-19 susceptibility variation.

https://petermcculloughmd.substack.com/ ... t-ny-press

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THREE NEW VACCINES THEY WANT YOU TO TAKE THIS FALL!
https://www.bitchute.com/video/QplPsznno5ys/

Yep, Pot head, far right wing jimmy Dore. He's practically a NAZI.

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The US Government Sent Millions of Grant Dollars to Alleged COVID ‘Patient Zero,’ Documents Show
https://www.aier.org/article/the-us-government-sent-millions-of-grant-dollars-to-alleged-covid-patient-zero-documents-show/

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https://twitter.com/ChuckCallesto/statu ... 20929?s=20

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"The reason for redacting the whole email was to save Anthony Fauci's face after that exchange with Rand Paul," says Matt Ridley, co-author of "Viral: The Search for the Origin of Covid-19."